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I don't want to wait till 4am to watch it! :(

i wanna watch it noooooooooooooooooow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't even watch it at 4,I have class in the morning and I have to sleep :icon_mad:

I'll try to wake up early to watch it,I hope I won't be too emotionally traumatized to go to class

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Let our balls of emotions begin folks!!!

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How many hours is it till the finale? I'm in another time zone und I haven't really an overview about the time difference. I'd like to follow what your are writing about it. Here in Germany we will see it in December... :-(     But 9 x 1 in January :-)

Thank you!

Germany is 6 hours ahead of East Coast time (apart from a couple of weeks a year because the clocks are changed on different dates). So that should make it 2 a.m. German time. I'd love to stream it live, but I have to get up early so I'll have to wait to watch it tomorrow unfortunately.

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Germany is 6 hours ahead of East Coast time (apart from a couple of weeks a year because the clocks are changed on different dates). So that should make it 2 a.m. German time. I'd love to stream it live, but I have to get up early so I'll have to wait to watch it tomorrow unfortunately.

 

Thank you Pia!

I think I also will wait till tomorrow, I have already a too big lack of sleep.

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So I understand that (especially during the dark days of S6 and S7) Amy tried various ways of getting Sheldon to look at her as a sexual being, and Sheldon shot her down- because that's not what turns his crank. And, irritatingly, Amy should know that. Remember the time that she used her 'neurobiological bag of tricks' to increase Sheldon's feelings for her? I loved that so much, because Amy told Sheldon very plainly what she was doing. She was not only setting out to seduce him, she was deploying and showing off her awesome intellect while doing so. That whole thing was just so playful and fun. For her to try stuff like her Snow White outfit and her endearingly literal interpretation of a Catholic Schoolgirl uniform, when she already knows what works- ugh. Writers, the 'Amy is horny and sad, and Sheldon is oblivious' joke was never as funny as you thought it was!

And I get that it is possible for a person to tie his/her sense of sexual/romantic worth to the reactions of one particular person. My contention is that we don't have any textual evidence that Amy, specifically, feels that way. If the finale had ended with Amy saying to Sheldon 'I don't feel like you desire me', or even 'I don't feel desirable around you', that would a clear indicator of Amy's feeling unwanted as a result of Sheldon's 'Flash' remark. Even if the writers don't want to spell it out like that, some evidence that Amy feels unsexy as a result of Sheldon's behaviour would do. As far as we know, though, Amy likes the way she looks, and she likes the way she dresses. Her idiosyncratic sense of style is preserved even when she dresses up (as for Prom) or role-plays (as in her fabulously un-stripper-y Catholic Schoolgirl outfit). Amy has never, in-show, indicated that she thinks she's anything but Da Bomb. She has never made herself over or tried to look like Penny or Bernie to get her boyfriend to look at her. And good for her! And good for the show, and good for the writers whom I give so much grief! There is no evidence, in-show, that Amy feels unsexy or undesirable. She wants Sheldon to want her, which is fine. But that doesn't automatically mean that she feels unwantable because Sheldon doesn't ravish her.

I feel strongly about this, because- however much shit I give the show's writers for their treatment of Amy- I have to give them this: the show has always, always accorded Amy the same assumption of sexual worth that it gives to its male characters. Even when they were hammering the 'Look, everybody! Amy is sad and horny!' joke into the ground, at no point did they suggest that Sheldon's hesitation is about anything other than his own neuroses. Nobody, but nobody, in-show, has suggested that Amy would spring Sheldon if she tarted herself up or fluffed out her hair or pushed out her cleavage.

And at no point has the show suggested that Amy herself feels that Sheldon is bad for her self-esteem. She may be exasperated with him. She may be tired of constantly driving the relationship. She may be tired of throwing herself at him and being asked for a hot beverage instead. She may be all of those things. But at no point has the show suggested that Amy thinks that this is all she can get. She has a frequently-exasperating boyfriend, but she loves him and wants him. She knows she has alternatives- the show has taken care to show her them- but she wants Sheldon. That doesn't mean she's damaged, it just means that she, like Sheldon, has specific sexual and romantic tastes.

Preach it, koops!

Very well, said. Whereas I tend to get long-winded with my commentaries, you drive straight to the point with specific examples . I love reading your posts!

I especially appreciate your reflection of the "bag of tricks" episode. You are right, it was Amy showing off her intellect and showing interest in the things he enjoys that caused Sheldon to start becoming distracted by her, and she didn't hide her intent. This was a fun episode listening to Sheldon explain to Leonard what was happening. Even when he is distracted, it is not in a normal way. Only Sheldon would associate dandriff cascading down Amy's shoulders with sexual undertones, and then portray it in such a romantic way describing it with his hand gestures and tone of voice.

I feel this same effort from Amy in taking interest in Sheldon's memories and appealing to his love of Forts is what moved him to accept the sleepover.

As mentioned already several times, Sheldon is not sexually moved by physical cues or what he sees with his eyes. He becomes excited when Amy connects with him intellectually, emotionally, and shares interest in the things that excite him. These are what moves him to action.

If we recall, Sheldon tried very hard to engage Amy's interest on the VD train. He has done the same by asking about "Flash". Whereas Amy wants physical evidence of his desire for her, Sheldon seeks evidence of her desire for him through her mind.

This is not to say he doesn't enjoy their physical relationship while engaged in the activity.

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I'm a Leonard/Penny (don't care too much for that other term) so my opinion comes from a different vantage point....

I think Sheldon is scared sh**less of Amy. Scared about being with her and how she makes him feel. Scared of being without her and how devastated he will feel.

The key word for me is feel/feelings. Sheldon has been operating successfully for so long by ignoring or putting his feelings in a box. Amy has opened the box and the cat is alive, but cowering in a corner.

I think Season 9 will continue to show growth for Drs. Cooper and Fowler, maybe without as great strides as Season 8. I'm looking forward to some episodes with Sheldon having to woo Amy and learn how to be a better boyfriend and later a fiancé to Amy...

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Very well, said. Whereas I tend to get long-winded with my commentaries, you drive straight to the point with specific examples . I love reading your posts!

(blushes) and you're not long-winded at all. Nuance matters!

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I'm a Leonard/Penny (don't care too much for that other term) so my opinion comes from a different vantage point....

I think Sheldon is scared sh**less of Amy. Scared about being with her and how she makes him feel. Scared of being without her and how devastated he will feel.

The key word for me is feel/feelings. Sheldon has been operating successfully for so long by ignoring or putting his feelings in a box. Amy has opened the box and the cat is alive, but cowering in a corner.

I think Season 9 will continue to show growth for Drs. Cooper and Fowler, maybe without as great strides as Season 8. I'm looking forward to some episodes with Sheldon having to woo Amy and learn how to be a better boyfriend and later a fiancé to Amy...

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I think that's an excellent analysis.

 

Even if you are a Lenny.  ;)

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I'm a Leonard/Penny (don't care too much for that other term) so my opinion comes from a different vantage point....

I think Sheldon is scared sh**less of Amy. Scared about being with her and how she makes him feel. Scared of being without her and how devastated he will feel.

The key word for me is feel/feelings. Sheldon has been operating successfully for so long by ignoring or putting his feelings in a box. Amy has opened the box and the cat is alive, but cowering in a corner.

I think Season 9 will continue to show growth for Drs. Cooper and Fowler, maybe without as great strides as Season 8. I'm looking forward to some episodes with Sheldon having to woo Amy and learn how to be a better boyfriend and later a fiancé to Amy...

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If he's scared shitless of Amy, why would he buy her an engagement ring?

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I think he is scared of being with her AND being without her. A woman he finds amazing has entered his life and has captured his soul--has made him feel things he never has before. It is frightening. But he wants it and he wants her. And it scares him. Dr. Cooper, my friends is head over heels...

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I think he is scared of being with her AND being without her. A woman he finds amazing has entered his life and has captured his soul--has made him feel things he never has before. It is frightening. But he wants it and he wants her. And it scares him. Dr. Cooper, my friends is head over heels...

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I like you, hokie3457.  Why don't you pull up a chair and stay a while?  ;)

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If we recall, Sheldon tried very hard to engage Amy's interest on the VD train. He has done the same by asking about "Flash". Whereas Amy wants physical evidence of his desire for her, Sheldon seeks evidence of her desire for him through her mind.

This is not to say he doesn't enjoy their physical relationship while engaged in the activity.

 

Yes! So much yes! I remember thinking when I read the taping report 'Awww, he wants to involve her in one of his beloved pop-cultural pursuits!'. I thought that that was because my own pop-cultural pursuits are so important to me that I thought that was romantic. I mean, all right, it may have been a dumb thing to say in the moment, but it was an innocuous thing, and he was trying to involve her in something we know he loves! I've always loved this about the Shamy, that they seem to really enjoy things together, rather than kinda-sorta-notreally apologising for the things they love, like the other guys do.

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Nice Q&A from Variety:  http://variety.com/2015/tv/features/mayim-bialik-big-bang-theory-finale-interview-1201489053/

 

Big Bang Theory’s’ Mayim Bialik: ‘We Have a Very Big Finale for Amy and Sheldon’

 

 

She's talking about some of you guys!

 

How important is the live audience to your show?

It’s like live theater. Any time Jim and I have to kiss in front of an audience, it’s like a whole other universe. Our writers don’t ooh and ahh and hoot and holler.

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I would LOVE to watch it live but even though tomorrow is a holiday in France I need to sleep because that little blond two legged and blue eyed thingy sleeping in the bedroom next to mine just about LOVES waking me up at impossible hours on days off.

 

Anyways, as soon as she wakes me up I'm SOOOOOOO watching it !

 

This is going to be such a long summer. Can't wait to read the stock of fanfictions that are sure to arrive :)

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