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On one hand, the will she say yes cliff hanger is nicer then the taking a break one, but on the other hand if the purpose of the break is because she doesn't think he desires her and is only doing things to keep her happy than she's going to think that he's only proposing for that reason. Which would then set it up for a longer break in season 9, which none of us want. The only want to avoid that would be her saying yes straight away.

Yes but maybe before showing the ring at her he could explain he wanted to do that before their discussion on skype.

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Interesting Kazzie.

Totally possible. the IG clue could also be about both Lenny and Shamy, a wedding and a ring.

2 HOURSS!!!!

But the bride is a brunette!! amy is the residence girl with hair the color of mud...

I checked and there is a blonde bride smiley available which would be Penny...

That more than anything got my wheels spinning

And the ring with hearts and a brown haired bride...

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Yes but maybe before showing the ring at her he could explain he wanted to do that before their discussion on skype.

Maybe.... but would she be in the mood to listen to him if she upset enough with him that she wanted a break in the first place?

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If we look at this logically, they've already shown us the ring. So why wait until next season for him to propose? The shock value is in this episode. And if they really want to give the fandom a heart attack, they'll have him get down on one knee before it fades out. I'm not going to get my hopes up too high, but it does make sense, especially since they know how much we like spoilers. In this case, they could be playing us at our own game. In just a short time, we'll know.

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If I recall correctly the word that Amy used during the break conversation was "exhausting." It wasn't necessarily because she felt unattractive or unwanted, just that to be Sheldon's girlfriend (or friend for that matter, Leonard is a saint) is a lot of work. She needed to sort out if this is something she is willing to deal with for another 5, 10 or 40 years.

I kind of don't want a secret proposal. I think they both need time to evaluate where they need to be.

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If I recall correctly the word that Amy used during the break conversation was "exhausting." It wasn't necessarily because she felt unattractive or unwanted, just that to be Sheldon's girlfriend (or friend for that matter, Leonard is a saint) is a lot of work. She needed to sort out if this is something she is willing to deal with for another 5, 10 or 40 years.

I kind of don't want a secret proposal. I think they both need time to evaluate where they need to be.

I think this exactly. Why bring up Amy wanting a break because she's exhausted being his girlfriend if they're not going to carry through with it. And also, proposing is not going to make it any less exhausting for her, if anything it will likely be more exhausting until they sort out some issues they both have.

 

They would have been better just having her mad at him for a couple of days without the need for her saying she needing a break.

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On one hand, the will she say yes cliff hanger is nicer then the taking a break one, but on the other hand if the purpose of the break is because she doesn't think he desires her and is only doing things to keep her happy than she's going to think that he's only proposing for that reason. Which would then set it up for a longer break in season 9, which none of us want. The only want to avoid that would be her saying yes straight away.

yeap... this is also a possibility.... 

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It really depends on how he would approach Amy if they did a secret proposal scene, whether or not that would mean a longer break for them.  She did use the word "exhausting" but the way she spoke was implying that it was exhausting not knowing if he would ever come around, etc.  So if he proves to her that he HAS, in fact, come around (and if he goes there right away, it would be clear enough he didn't go out and buy a ring after their Skype chat, but already had it) and tells her what is truly in his heart, it may end up being just fine.  It really just depends...


If I am wrong.. I am so sorry haha

 

It's all good, Kazzie.  There is a very good chance there won't be a secret scene at all.  But this is the fun part of fandom--getting all crazy and excited contemplating the possibilities.  :)

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Ok, I have to sleep. Good luck with that, knowing that in less that 2 hours the episode is on! 

 

*must sleep, got meeting tomorrow*

*maybe dream of Shamy*

i'm going to try and stay awake... i don't have to work in the morning ;)

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Concerning the secret scene: 

and would they have time to cram all that in a tag scene????

this could only work if he just shows up at her door...she opens, he holds out the open box and says, "please Amy" ? and then fade out? 

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i'm going to try and stay awake... i don't have to work in the morning ;)

Well, the meeting is at 12:00 so I guess I could make it with a couple of hours sleep. But I seriously doubt I'll be able to sleep if I manage to see the episode tonight.

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The question of whether or not she says yes is an even more intense cliffhanger.

 

It's impossible to know at this point, and I could see it going either way--either a rewrite from when we saw Bill's script page, or a secret tag scene.

 

I think that a sudden proposal after her telling him she needed to step back and think might only exacerbate the situation, giving her even more things to think about.

 

ETA: What was the tag scene as seen in the taping?  I mean, was it the skype conversation?

 

I wonder if the show will break the internet tonight...

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The question of whether or not she says yes is an even more intense cliffhanger.

 

It's impossible to know at this point, and I could see it going either way--either a rewrite from when we saw Bill's script page, or a secret tag scene.

 

I think that a sudden proposal after her telling him she needed to step back and think might only exacerbate the situation, giving her even more things to think about.

 

ETA: What was the tag scene as seen in the taping?  I mean, was it the skype conversation?

 

I wonder if the show will break the internet tonight...

 

The tag was the Skype scene, ending with him closing the laptop and asking Gollum what he's going to do with this ring, and pulling it out of the drawer.  What I'm thinking is IF (big IF) there is a secret scene, THAT would be the real tag, and they would have just told us this scene was it.

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I kinda don't want a secret proposal scene. I like the idea of Sheldon respecting Amy's wish for space to think. As romantic as it may sound for him to run there and propose to her, it kinda strikes as a selfish thing to do. She has asked for a break after all.

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I've always loved this about the Shamy, that they seem to really enjoy things together, rather than kinda-sorta-notreally apologising for the things they love, like the other guys do.

Me, too! Some examples are FWF, human experimentation, watching tv/movies, eating in Amy's lab, attending lectures, shopping, etc. Even though Amy doesn't care for super heroes and video games, she goes to the comic book store with him and indulges him when he wants to talk about such things. They just enjoy being with each other.

Their date nights are so significant now, that they dress up for them. There have productive and comical conversations over tea. Even when they are apart, they communicate by text and Skype.

In these areas they are so totally in sync and the most solid couple on the show. I enjoy watching their unique brand of togetherness.

They talk about everything except their intimate feelings, and this is where they have a problem. Because Amy knows Sheldon scoffs at intimacy and is a flight risk, she seems to hold back from expressing her physical needs but hides behind words like romance, hints, and innuendos that only serve to irritate Sheldon because he honestly does not understand. Amy needs to sit down and spell out to him that what she is feeling is not some animalistic urge that will just go away or be put off indefinately. She wants him, not anyone else. She is frustated, and it is hurting their relationship. This is not an ultimatum. It is a fact that Sheldon needs to be made clearly aware of.

Sheldon likes homeostasis and resists change. Facts and assertive nudges are what Sheldon understands. As is IC for him, major milestones and change occur once he feels backed into a corner with no where to go after all the alternatives that keep him within his comfort zone have been eliminated. Once the hurdle is crossed, he finds the change not as bad as he thought, and sometimes downright enjoyable.

It is not that Amy is driving the relationship, as some have said. He is headed in the same direction, but just needs assistance getting on the same path. This is just how Sheldon is built.

I think deep inside Sheldon wants physically what Amy wants but hides behind the RA, negotiations, covers and control factors he creates because he is still chained by his phobias. These have nothing at all to do with Amy. It is a struggle within himself.

Like Amy, he needs to call her out on over-reacting because she knows how his brain is and how he expresses himself and she shouldn't take it to mean he is not focused on her. He told her he was. However, he also needs to remind her of where he was on the intimacy level, how far he has come, where he is headed, and let her know it is only because of her and for her that, yes, she will have what they both desire.

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The episode airs here in an hour and 15 minutes, and I haven't decided if i'm going to watch it.  I want to see them kissing, but not sure my heart can take seeing them both hurting.

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