Ship Zone [Spoilers]Shamy S8 Thread

[Dannii]

I am heartbroken for them.

 

I just posted in the chat how I felt that this end scene made Sheldon grow up. Anyone else have that feeling? 

[Judge-Apatow]

Look at the way she denies him! and look at the way he lunges towards her!! LOOK AT IT

[vonmar]

From Glamour Magazine:  http://www.glamour.com/entertainment/blogs/obsessed/2015/05/the-big-bang-theory-season-finale-recap

 

The Big Bang Theory's Executive Producer Reveals Everything About Those Major Season Finale Moments (Spoilers!)

 

Glamour: That opening scene with Sheldon and Amy...I seriously thought I was seeing things!

Steve Molaro: [Laughs] This is probably their third or fourth time kissing. There’s been date nights where they’ve kissed before, but to see it like this is certainly a step forward I think.

Glamour: There seemed to be more passion behind this one.
Steve: It’s a tiny moment, but when Sheldon leans in to start again, I think that’s extremely telling. She stops him because of what he says about watching The Flash, but he was about to start it up again. It’s small, but it’s really interesting.

 

Glamour: At one point did you know you wanted to end the season with the Sheldon/Amy and Leonard/Penny cliffhangers?
Steve: We had been talking about the finale for a while, and different iterations of what could happen. When we landed on that moment, it just seemed to be full of excitement and possibilities and mystery and sadness. It’s such a range of emotions in those final seconds. It just seemed like such a strong way to go out.

 

Glamour: Sheldon has infuriated Amy so much over the years, but what do you think was it about this instance that made her finally take a step back?
Steve: I don’t know. It seemed...the timing of it was so inappropriate—it [being] the fifth anniversary of their first date. I don’t blame her for getting upset. His mind should not be on a TV show, and the irony is he’s talking about what a commitment issue he’s having regarding it and the irony of him not seeing that there might be a larger commitment issue he’s having right in front of her. So, I feel for her. But again, in Sheldon’s defense, when he says look at how far they’ve come, he’s not wrong. So what I liked is that everyone has a leg to stand on in this fight. He has told her he loves her, and [while] it all has been going impossibly slow for her, from his point of view it’s going 1,000 miles per hour. I think that’s part of why the whole dynamic is so interesting.

 

Glamour: How long do you think Sheldon had the engagement right for? Do you think he really intended to propose to Amy soon?
Steve: I have thoughts about that, but I don’t think I should say them at this time. But clearly, it is an indication of just how much Amy means to him, regardless of the details.

 

Glamour: How much do you talk to Jim Parsons about Sheldon’s character developments?
Steve: We kind of do our things separately. There’s times we will talk, but a lot of what’s going on...we’re handling the words, but a lot of how it’s brought to life is because of him and the choices he’s making. I think that’s evident on the screen. There are little choices I’ll notice—when they’re kissing and his hand is on her leg or when a few weeks ago they were having a fight about him signing up for that Mars journey, and at the end of it, when he invites her to go if they ever go to Mars, they hug and it was not a stiff hug. It was a very warm and welcoming hug between the two of them, and that’s a choice coming from them. In those moments, it certainly is collaborative.

[Lizzie_AR]

All I'm saying is SHAMY MAKE UP COITUS FOR SEASON 9!

Edited May 8, 2015 by Lizzie_AR

[Kathy2611]

So from what it sounds like, they are considering it a "break up" with Shamy rather than just a break. Am I reading that right?

I don't know how I feel about this episode yet. I've only seen it once so far and it just seemed more sad than funny. Can Sheldon really be that clueless and arrogant?

And from the sounds of "What do I do with this?" regarding the ring. What? Is he giving up that fucking easily on their relationship.

Maybe I just need to watch it again but so far, from what I've seen, I'm not really happy.

[rachelshamyfan]

I'm calling it a "pause"

Yup

[stardustmelody]

Jessica's interview is put in such a much more positive light than the Hollywood Reporter one was positioned.   Still not sure how I feel about this.

[jenafan]

I got the same impression that Amy broke up with him, and I think Sheldon is taking it that way, too. The way he closed the laptop, the shutter in his facial expression......I thought he was going to cry.

I don't know how they are going to get through this. Sheldon genuinely does not understand what went wrong. I've never scene him look so pained and Amy so depressed.

Ok, so I may have to retract my statement above. My hubby just watched the episode with me again and said they did not break up. He says that Amy wanting to step back and re-evaluate the situation means she is not getting what she wants with the way things are going and needs time to decide if she will conceded and accept it, come at it from a different angle, or end it.

Edited May 8, 2015 by jenafan

[Trinabeana78]

THR writer kept saying break up. Though Steve didn't refute it, he never agreed that it was a break up, and actually said they don't know exactly where they are. But still, he kept saying Sheldon was "fond" of Amy, which okay of course he is, but he's told her he loves her so I would have rather Steve said he loves Amy. The Glamour mag one said takes a step back, and it did seem overall more positive.

[Retroluv]

THR writer kept saying break up. Though Steve didn't refute it, he never agreed that it was a break up, and actually said they don't know exactly where they are. But still, he kept saying Sheldon was "fond" of Amy, which okay of course he is, but he's told her he loves her so I would have rather Steve said he loves Amy. The Glamour mag one said takes a step back, and it did seem overall more positive.

All of THIS. Their love is canon...why use "fond of?" What's the angle there? Or is it just careless/poor choice of words?

If you're going to break our hearts AT LEAST acknowledge the intensity of their feelings for each other!

[Judge-Apatow]

I'm not worried. I like a little angst. Especially if it gives Sheldon impetus to be more affectionate and forthcoming towards Amy. I'm under the impression that the season premiere will pick up where it left off and Lenny will turn around to help Sheldon and Amy in whatever way they can.

[kelliluvtbbt]

Just gonna drop this here... http://michygeary.tumblr.com/post/118404417984/sheldon-x-amy-commitment

that just breaks our little hearts.... sooooo close but yet so far away

[loriparis80]

From The Hollywood Reporter:  http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/big-bang-theory-sheldon-amy-793742

 

'Big Bang Theory' Boss on Sheldon and Amy's Bombshell, Leonard and Penny's Big Chill

 

How does Sheldon and Amy's breakup change the group dynamic? She's close with everyone, especially Penny.

That's what we're excited to find out. It ripples through a lot of relationships and how they both handle this and what happens moving forward is what we're so excited to jump in on season nine with.

 

I hope this doesn't mean the pause in their relationship will last longer than 1-2 episodes.

[rachelshamyfan]

http://shamy-edits.tumblr.com/post/118407735957/shamy-edits-8x24-commitment-determination

"Bawling like a baby"

They both look so sad at the end

[jenafan]

Great acting from Jim and Mayim, especially with the gestures and facial expressions. You can really feel their love and how each is hurting over this misunderstanding. This is gonna be an extremely long summer!

[koops]

Only seen it once, but I honestly did not enjoy the episode at all until that very last scene. I felt like the editing was truly horrible and the whole mood of the episode was off. Like people were bitter and dark and gloomy out of nowhere and like things were exaggerated in not so subtle ways. WTF was going on with the editing during the H/B/S and R/E scenes?! I get that they were trying to draw the parallels between a couple about to break up and H/B about to "break up" with Stuart, but it really seemed to be edited together by a high schooler with iMovie. Don't get me started on Leonard because... ugh. Poor Penny.

 

Anyway, regarding Shamy... I am surprised people are taking this as a breakup. I thought it was even clearer in the scene, compared to the report, that it is not a breakup. Amy clearly said she needs to take a step back to evaluate the "situation", not even the relationship. And she's obviously upset and I'm sure a "breakup" is part of the things she's considering, but it was clear to me THIS isn't a breakup. And I don't think Sheldon is taking it as one, as just being shellshocked and blindsided by it, and I really think his line with regards to the ring ("What do I do with this now?") is more just a line to accompany the big reveal that he has a ring than anything else. Or at most an indication that he was planning to propose *very* soon and now with her step back he's not sure what's going on.

 

I also don't think Steve is claiming this is a breakup. He's not denying it because otherwise that kind of spoils the point of his precious cliffhanger. But from all other hints he's giving, I doubt it.

 

I can't help, though, to wonder if this was really necessary. Yes, they got their big cliffhanger that's going to make people talk all summer and I guess that's what they want. But I do feel like it's an awful lot of drama for something that maybe Shamy weren't in that dire need of (the engagement). I felt like they wrote the episode around the cliffhangers, really, more than the cliffhangers around the season. 

[Beckyseyedoc]

Just finished watching the episode, and my mind is still spinning, even though I knew what to expect. I was ready to cry with both Sheldon and Amy -- Jim and Mayim did beautiful work here.

 

I feel Sheldon has finally gotten his due for leaving on the train a year ago.  And I still wanted to cry for him.

 

All will work out in the end, but I hope not too quickly. Sheldon and Amy have some growing left to do, especially in communicating with one another.

 

BTW: my unspoiled (and often unobservant husband) caught the Gollum figure on the desk and said, "Oh, crap, he's got a ring." WTH?! 

[kelliluvtbbt]

http://shamy-edits.tumblr.com/post/118407735957/shamy-edits-8x24-commitment-determination

"Bawling like a baby"

They both look so sad at the end

that broke my heart even more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[loriparis80]

http://shamy-edits.tumblr.com/post/118407735957/shamy-edits-8x24-commitment-determination

"Bawling like a baby"

They both look so sad at the end

I feel like after Amy ended the conversation she probably cried herself to sleep.   So sad! I also feel like Sheldon looked as if he was about to cry at the end.

Only seen it once, but I honestly did not enjoy the episode at all until that very last scene. I felt like the editing was truly horrible and the whole mood of the episode was off. Like people were bitter and dark and gloomy out of nowhere and like things were exaggerated in not so subtle ways. WTF was going on with the editing during the H/B/S and R/E scenes?! I get that they were trying to draw the parallels between a couple about to break up and H/B about to "break up" with Stuart, but it really seemed to be edited together by a high schooler with iMovie. Don't get me started on Leonard because... ugh. Poor Penny.

 

Anyway, regarding Shamy... I am surprised people are taking this as a breakup. I thought it was even clearer in the scene, compared to the report, that it is not a breakup. Amy clearly said she needs to take a step back to evaluate the "situation", not even the relationship. And she's obviously upset and I'm sure a "breakup" is part of the things she's considering, but it was clear to me THIS isn't a breakup. And I don't think Sheldon is taking it as one, as just being shellshocked and blindsided by it, and I really think his line with regards to the ring ("What do I do with this now?") is more just a line to accompany the big reveal that he has a ring than anything else. Or at most an indication that he was planning to propose *very* soon and now with her step back he's not sure what's going on.

 

I also don't think Steve is claiming this is a breakup. He's not denying it because otherwise that kind of spoils the point of his precious cliffhanger. But from all other hints he's giving, I doubt it.

 

I can't help, though, to wonder if this was really necessary. Yes, they got their big cliffhanger that's going to make people talk all summer and I guess that's what they want. But I do feel like it's an awful lot of drama for something that maybe Shamy weren't in that dire need of (the engagement). I felt like they wrote the episode around the cliffhangers, really, more than the cliffhangers around the season. 

Everything about this post is spot on.

[rachelshamyfan]

I think that a proposal wont happen until late s9 at the earliest

And now that Amy wants to evaluate the situation of the relationship, its gonna be Sheldon that has to wait for her but I hope they talk openly and not hide their true feelings and we see that conversation

Edited May 8, 2015 by rachelshamyfan

[pisquenta]

If you guys find a piece of red meat on the floor it's just a piece of my heart that cracked over Sheldon's face at the tab scene.

Excuse me while I go sob in that corner.

[Retroluv]

I hope this doesn't mean the pause in their relationship will last longer than 1-2 episodes.

They could do this in a couple of eps...we don't need to see half a season of group dynamic changes to explore that territory.

[rachelshamyfan]

True

[loriparis80]

They could do this in a couple of eps...we don't need to see half a season of group dynamic changes to explore that territory.

That's very true.

[Tomasina]

From the interview it sounds like this is going to last for more than just one episode. They want to explore how relationships shift and how people react going forward? This sounds like a priya arc without a priya.