Ship Zone [Spoilers]Shamy S8 Thread

[TheShamyShipper]

Yeah, clearly the writers aren't done with Shamy. Look at all the milestones they got them through this season. And it's pretty clear that this relationship is a major area of character growth for Sheldon, who, let's face it, is kind of the focal point of the show (Leonard and Penny too, but you know what I mean). This relationship has become really important to the show and to a lot of fans. The writers know what they're doing, and sometimes it takes something major to get Sheldon to do what he should. They want us to fret over them for the hiatus, and they want to create some drama BECAUSE they're so important. So yes, they'll be fine in the long run, and this will end up being really good for them. But the fact that they're hurting still hurts, as does not knowing how long this hurt will last or what they'll have to go through to get back to where they need to be. I AM looking forward to seeing where the writers take this though.

[Susana Alcira]

I´ve watched the episode twice and the SHAMY scenes at least ten.(Plse EMMY for Jim and Mayim!)

Of course the writers are on our side! SHAMY will be so amazing and great in season 9!

About the ring: If it comes from Sheldon´s family I hope it is Meema´s  ring, no Mary´s! (Mary was not happy with Sheldon´s father)

But I think (and want) Sheldon himself has bought it for Amy, as he did with the tiara. (In some way, he knows his little lady very well)

Lenny is ok. It was not a big deal, just kissing before they were engaged (Penny has to remember she sometimes hides her engagment ring!)

SHAMY and Lenny will be adorable next season!

Episode 200 will be unforgettable for all of us!

[rachelshamyfan]

Whether they were engaged or not, he still has no business kissing another woman but anyway this is the shamy thread....

I expect or hope shamy situation will be resolved pretty quickly and no more than 2-3 episodes

Edited May 9, 2015 by rachelshamyfan

[stardustmelody]

Whether they were engaged or not, he still has no business kissing another woman but anyway this is the shamy thread....

I expect or hope shamy situation will be resolved pretty quickly and no more than 2-3 episodes

 

 

Agree...if not then the show has become a daytime soap opera.   It already is bordering on that with the finale....but if they keep up that kind of turmoil and strife for more than that many episodes...it no longer belongs in comedy genre.   Bottom line Shamy's thing is a communication issue and they are good at communicating.   They just need to hash it out.   My bet, end of second episode it is resolved.   It gives them long enough to have a bit of interaction with other characters to help them through it and for Sheldon to figure things out, but not drag it out to be weighting down the entire season.

[Susana Alcira]

If they give a Premiere with two episodes, may be the third one, but no more. SHAMY interaction is gold for the show!

[TheShamyShipper]

Agree...if not then the show has become a daytime soap opera.   It already is bordering on that with the finale....but if they keep up that kind of turmoil and strife for more than that many episodes...it no longer belongs in comedy genre.   Bottom line Shamy's thing is a communication issue and they are good at communicating.   They just need to hash it out.   My bet, end of second episode it is resolved.   It gives them long enough to have a bit of interaction with other characters to help them through it and for Sheldon to figure things out, but not drag it out to be weighting down the entire season.

That's very true. My initial thought was episode 2 or 3. Just with some of Molaro's comments, I wasn't as sure. It's good to remember this is a comedy though, and as such, it should be resolved quickly.

[Desdemona]

From my view, the ring looks to be yellow gold with inset should diamonds and a princess cut (square-ish) solitaire. Of course, even with a close up view, it is hard to determine the exact deign, but that would be my best bet. If I'm right, carat and clarity depending, that type of ring would retail at around $3,000. But let's face it, Sheldon probably wasn't too focused on price when he bought it.

 

I think it would look like this:

 

I´m sure Sheldon has saved enough in his Batman figure and in his snake tin. Remember that he spents only 46 % of his income for his needs and saves the rest?

[teletalk101]

I'm sure he had plenty of money saved, but was probably saving it for all those futuristic projects he has been waiting for to be invented. In which case, it would have been a big thing to give up so much for a ring, evidence of how much he loves her.

[Desdemona]

Yes, it would be a great evidence indeed.

But, I´m still hoping that this ring is from his Meemaw.

[CentralPerk]

Yeah, clearly the writers aren't done with Shamy. Look at all the milestones they got them through this season. And it's pretty clear that this relationship is a major area of character growth for Sheldon, who, let's face it, is kind of the focal point of the show (Leonard and Penny too, but you know what I mean). This relationship has become really important to the show and to a lot of fans. The writers know what they're doing, and sometimes it takes something major to get Sheldon to do what he should. They want us to fret over them for the hiatus, and they want to create some drama BECAUSE they're so important. So yes, they'll be fine in the long run, and this will end up being really good for them. But the fact that they're hurting still hurts, as does not knowing how long this hurt will last or what they'll have to go through to get back to where they need to be. I AM looking forward to seeing where the writers take this though.

 

Yes, I have read a lot of reactions yesterday on twitter, youtube, facebook. Almost all comments are about shamy and the sad end ! A lot are shocked, think it's a break up, and they are positively surprise by the ring, and are upset.

 

In my circle of friends, just one has seen the episode and has liked the gollum scene. I wait for the other who are late (they have not seen the 5 last episodes. I can't wait for their reaction and to speak about with them).

 

I really hope the writers can fix their relationship in a good way and quickly. Sheldon can fight but he can also going into a shell and becoming recluse. After all the progress in their relationship I hope it will be the first option.

[CentralPerk]

Sorry for the double post, but it's another thing :

 

Look at his smile !!

 

I can't find a gif so I made screen video captures. Sheldon was here just as excited as Amy of their 5th year anniversary. He turns hippie here. lol (I'm not complaint)

 

[koops]

Agree...if not then the show has become a daytime soap opera.   It already is bordering on that with the finale....but if they keep up that kind of turmoil and strife for more than that many episodes...it no longer belongs in comedy genre.   Bottom line Shamy's thing is a communication issue and they are good at communicating.   They just need to hash it out.   My bet, end of second episode it is resolved.   It gives them long enough to have a bit of interaction with other characters to help them through it and for Sheldon to figure things out, but not drag it out to be weighting down the entire season.

 

I completely agree and here's really what's worrying me. I am more confident than not that the writers won't drag this on too long or turn it into a proper "break", mainly because Shamy are not meant to be the typical couple and even when the writers in the past have introduced cliche plots, they always gave it a "Shamy spin" on the matter and never dove right into soap opera/romcom territory. And also because their cliffhangers usually get resolved in a couple of episodes, every time. The repercussions might trickle down throughout the season (for example, even if Shamy do get back together in the first two eps, I don't think that will be the last we hear of the issues that were raised in the finale, or that Sheldon will propose right away), but generally their season finales are designed just to keep people coming back the following year.

 

However there is a little part of me that worries, because of their tendency not to plan, that if they do indeed think "Oh, we will drag this out a tiny bit longer this time", the whole plot will spiral out of control (as some of their meanest jokes often do) and, because this is a comedy and they need to make people laugh first and foremost, they will do a massive disservice to how delicate and fragile some of the issues on the table here are with Shamy, precisely because of their unique nature as people and as a couple. I think there's some pretty sensitive material to deal with here, for a sitcom, and I think they need to be careful how they handle it. There's a bunch of possible scenarios that while could prove good fodder for comedy (the first one off the top of my head is Amy dating someone else for a while), could be terrible choices for the overall message in the long run, but I worry that they might lose sight of the overall message because of their lack of planning and having to focus on laughs. 

 

So, yeah. A big part of me is optimistic and feels like there's a lot of good material on the table and it's necessary to turn a new leaf and put the whole "is he or isn't he" issue to rest once and for all for the two of them to move on. Another part of me is very nervous because this can turn into a recipe for disaster. Steve's interviews have been comforting enough so far, but there's still an underlying vagueness about where this is all going that is making me bite my fingernails. Which is probably what they want. 

 

eta: On another note, rewatching the tag (because I'm a masochist), I now think Sheldon doesn't really understand what's going on when she says she wants to take some time. He seems shellshocked and confused and agrees probably more out of respect to her (for once, go Sheldon!), than because he fully understands what she means. I see him as being utterly confused as where this is going and I think the convo with Gollum kind of underscores that: what is he meant to do with that ring? Does it means it's over? Does it means she is coming back? Does it mean a day, a month, a year? What do people mean when they say they want to step back? It's heartbreaking really. I wonder if he will just kind of shut down for a while or start analyzing the situation like a madman to figure out what it all means. We know not knowing is definitely *not* part of the fun for him. 

Edited May 9, 2015 by koops

[boys3allc]

100% agreed Koops my worries exactly, I worry they will drag this out over the whole season , in fact I am so worried it made me have nightmare. I dreamt that this whole break and the Vegas thing was the writers way of getting Shenny together. That the first episode opens up with them comforting each other and then they make out. It was horrible and now I need a hug.

[rachelshamyfan]

I think the lenny situation will be resolved in the premiere as thats more simplier and we see shamy struggling without each other until 1/2 episodes later they are reunited after talking it out

I hope

[jenafan]

100% agreed Koops my worries exactly, I worry....... the Vegas thing was the writers way of getting Shenny together. That the first episode opens up with them comforting each other and then they make out.

I thought the same thing when during the interview Steve mentioned wanting to mix things up within the groups. I got to thinking that I hope they do not do a switch where Penny ends up with Sheldon and Leonard with Amy or something stupid like that.

I hope not or I am done!

[Shamyyes]

I think the lenny situation will be resolved in the premiere as thats more simplier and we see shamy struggling without each other until 1/2 episodes later they are reunited after talking it out

I hope

I agree Lenny will resolve first episode. I believe they will set a date and season will move forward from there for them

Shamy- I'm afraid will be season long angst. Just a feeling I have.

Still heartbroken over 8-24.

It all makes me feel 10 will definitely be the end of show.

[rachelshamyfan]

I thought the same thing when during the interview Steve mentioned wanting to mix things up within the groups. I got to thinking that I hope they do not do a switch where Penny ends up with Sheldon and Leonard with Amy or something stupid like that.

I hope not or I am done!

Nooooooooooooooooooo

[rachelshamyfan]

Its basically because its the final and they wanna get the viewers in and pique their interest and hope they come back for the season 9 premiere

[TateTheUnicorn]

Is it bad that I'm over what happened to shamy already? It's probably because I don't really get hung up on stuff I guess... [emoji53]

[jenafan]

I am hoping for a serious but comedic ShAmy make up. After gaining his bearings from the Skype conversation, Sheldon Googles for advice on how to get your girlfriend back, tries to do them, but puts his own brand of Sheldoness into it, messes up in someway that is IC, but gets his point across to Amy.

He could start with flowers and a card (a romantic gesture) acknowleging her need for space but letting her know he loves her with some scientific goofiness or something that is lost on anyone else but his little lady.

And while I do expect he may turn to Lenny for comfort, I want these gestures to win her back to come from him, not because he is told to do them.

I can see Sheldon building her flowers out of Legos.....

Edited May 9, 2015 by jenafan

[koops]

I think the lenny situation will be resolved in the premiere as thats more simplier and we see shamy struggling without each other until 1/2 episodes later they are reunited after talking it out

I hope

 

I think the complete opposite. I don't understand how knowing one's fiancee cheated on them and waited two years to tell them can be simpler to solve than the fact that two people completely misread each other's signals but in fact want the same thing. There's a trust issue at play and I would frankly be disappointed if, especially given Penny's history of being cheated on, Leonard's cheating is swept under the table in one episode and all is back to normal. They're about to spend the rest of their lives together and he drops that bomb on her, with no time to process it. While Shamy's problems were something you could see coming, even though maybe not this particular season, Leonard's confession is sudden and unexpected and is not down to a misunderstanding or frustration. He cheated and he can't take that back. And not only that, but he had done the exact same thing to Priya and went to PENNY of all people to ask for advice. If they want me to buy a wedding with these two, they need to really really really flesh out a story where I can buy Penny forgiving him. And no, "it was just kissing" does not cut it. 

 

I was saying on Twitter that I would be fine with up to 4-5 episodes of Shamy angst and exploring how that affects the gang and all, but if it gets dragged on past November sweeps (which usually start around the 7th episode), it will turn way too romcom drama for my taste and I will more than likely lose interest. There's so much fun stuff to do with Sheldon and Amy other than relationship stuff, that's their strongest trait as a pairing, compared to the other couples, that to have them live through a trite breakup scenario right now would be incredibly frustrating. 

 

However, out of all the possible options, I truly do not believe Steve said anything about mixing the couples up or anything along those lines. What he was talking about was how the current issues with the relationships (Shamy and Lenny) would affect the group. When there's a tight group of friends who are like family to each other, these issues affect more than just the couples. And I actually think that's some of the most interesting stuff they can look at, story telling wise. I honestly loved how close the girls got during the Priya era, and how they all supported Penny through that. One of my favorite scenes of the entire show to this day is the one where Penny peeks into 4A while Sheldon is having his skype dinner with Amy and Leonard and Priya are away for the weekend and Amy tells Sheldon to make tea for Penny because she's obviously upset and Sheldon goes "it's not optional". That little smile Penny does at the end is so endearing to me because she is feeling the love and attention that Shamy are trying to give her in their own quirky way. The other one is when Howard goes to apologize to Bernie and they have that group hug. I would love to see more of that. 

Edited May 9, 2015 by koops

[rachelshamyfan]

Sorry I meant that we will know whether they have got married or not

[koops]

Sorry I meant that we will know whether they have got married or not

 

Oh, right! Gotcha. Yes, that we will find out pretty quick. And I'd be worried if they went through with it.

[Desdemona]

I think the complete opposite. I don't understand how knowing one's fiancee cheated on them and waited two years to tell them can be simpler to solve than the fact that two people completely misread each other's signals but in fact want the same thing. There's a trust issue at play and I would frankly be disappointed if, especially given Penny's history of being cheated on, Leonard's cheating is swept under the table in one episode and all is back to normal. They're about to spend the rest of their lives together and he drops that bomb on her, with no time to process it. While Shamy's problems were something you could see coming, even though maybe not this particular season, Leonard's confession is sudden and unexpected and is not down to a misunderstanding or frustration. He cheated and he can't take that back. And not only that, but he had done the exact same thing to Priya and went to PENNY of all people to ask for advice. If they want me to buy a wedding with these two, they need to really really really flesh out a story where I can buy Penny forgiving him. And no, "it was just kissing" does not cut it. 

 

I was saying on Twitter that I would be fine with up to 4-5 episodes of Shamy angst and exploring how that affects the gang and all, but if it gets dragged on past November sweeps (which usually start around the 7th episode), it will turn way too romcom drama for my taste and I will more than likely lose interest. There's so much fun stuff to do with Sheldon and Amy other than relationship stuff, that's their strongest trait as a pairing, compared to the other couples, that to have them live through a trite breakup scenario right now would be incredibly frustrating. 

 

However, out of all the possible options, I truly do not believe Steve said anything about mixing the couples up or anything along those lines. What he was talking about was how the current issues with the relationships (Shamy and Lenny) would affect the group. When there's a tight group of friends who are like family to each other, these issues affect more than just the couples. And I actually think that's some of the most interesting stuff they can look at, story telling wise. I honestly loved how close the girls got during the Priya era, and how they all supported Penny through that. One of my favorite scenes of the entire show to this day is the one where Penny peeks into 4A while Sheldon is having his skype dinner with Amy and Leonard and Priya are away for the weekend and Amy tells Sheldon to make tea for Penny because she's obviously upset and Sheldon goes "it's not optional". That little smile Penny does at the end is so endearing to me because she is feeling the love and attention that Shamy are trying to give her in their own quirky way. The other one is when Howard goes to apologize to Bernie and they have that group hug. I would love to see more of that. 

I totally agree with you Koops. Lenny´s problem is a betrayal of confidence imo. When Penny and Leonard met, Penny had just broken up with her boyfriend, which she loved very much. She was dating one guy after another, always hoping ti meet the right guy, who was able to love her. But as she was dating facile type, which was mostly interested in sex, so they all disappointed her. Then she met Leonard, which was not her type first, but while time was passing by, she got to know him better, dated him and finally fall in love with him, because she was sure he was the right one and would never hurt her like the others did. But now, that he betrayed her too, I think it will take time before she can forgive him. So I don´t think that she wil marry him in Vegas. First Leonard will have to fight for his trust. It will be interesting how the group will react to the Lenny and Shamy issues, if they decide to be on one´s side or if they decide to be neutral and which constellation of groups will develop out of ths situation. I hope we don´t get to see the typical girl´s group/ boy´s group constellation. At least Sheldon will try to keep in contact with Penny, as he did when Lenny broke up for the first time.

[Desdemona]

I don´t want to think of any couple mixtures, especially a Shenny make out. This always reminds me of Amy´s Shenny fantasy, which makes me want to throw up.

The writers won´t be this sadist, will they?

I don´t think that they are risking their loyal viewers, for some bad taste jokes. Otherwise the crowd wil hunt them with pitchforks!