Ship Zone [Spoilers]Shamy S8 Thread

[Kathy2611]

I can't stop thinking about how they are having extra date nights and we are missing out on seeing date night kisses

I don't either BUT when we do see one again, hopefully it will be more "experienced" (since they apparently are kissing a lot off screen) and hot!

[boys3allc]

I was going to post this yesterday following Kerryceo03's comment above but got called away from the computer and could not finish. Having read the posts since then I am still going to post as I think it may still apply.

Totally agree with Kerryceo03 on this, this thread is awesome, have not seen so many popular posts on one page before.

I had been thinking of Mitchy and Kazzie's thoughts and feelings about Sheldon's final comment especially as they had been there and seen it acted out, and for those who still feel that the comment was out of line . My initial view was that (presumably) it has only been a matter of weeks since Sheldon's return so though Sheldon will have grown slightly, it is possibly a little early to expect him to suddenly about turn in all matters related to Amy. After all this is only the 3rd episode and what we have had to date has by far exceeded my expectations.

However having read others take on this I myself have jumped this particular ship and joined the others viewpoint and to be honest it scares me, as mentioned above this is only the 3rd episode, I really worry that the writers will throw us a curve ball sometime - I hope that is the correct phrase as I have no knowledge of baseball - but it seemed appropriate in view of the tittle of this episode.

Anyway continuing to try to be glass half full person.

What curve balls are you expecting after this line? I know we have not heard it acted out and tone and facial expression are key factors but that being said I still am not reading to much into it. We had a whole ep of the Shamy being superior and Lenny being insecure it was a playing field leveling line. A you guys think you are so great well look at this! Sorta thing.

Also I agree Kerrycec! I exclusively stalk this thread it gets to heated over in the Season 8 thread! Y'all are my my kind of peeps!

And yes to quote Tommy Boatwright "I am a Southern bitch"

Edited September 6, 2014 by boys3allc

[TreesRgreen]

What curve balls are you expecting after this line? I know we have not heard it acted out and tone and facial expression are key factors but that being said I still am not reading to much into it.

 

Also I agree Kerrycec! I exclusively stalk this thread it gets to heated over in the Season 8 thread! Y'all are my my kind of peeps!

 

So far all seems to be going well for ShAmy and it is only the 3rd episode.  It was not the particular line had problems with  I just get worried that the writers will do an about turn just to get us going.   It is hard to forget the finale of season 7. 

 

However as I said I will continue to be cautiously optimistic.

 

ETA - agree with you about the Season 8 Thread - too hot for my delicate ears !!!!

Edited September 6, 2014 by ShAmy4eva

[Kathleen]

Love that sweater from Anderson Cooper!

MY DREAM PIECE OF CLOTHING!

[koops]

So far all seems to be going well for ShAmy and it is only the 3rd episode.  It was not the particular line had problems with  I just get worried that the writers will do an about turn just to get us going.   It is hard to forget the finale of season 7. 

 

However as I said I will continue to be cautiously optimistic.

 

ETA - agree with you about the Season 8 Thread - too hot for my delicate ears !!!!

 

Depends on what you mean by curve-ball, I guess. Would a breakup be a curve ball? Because from the answer Molaro gave to Michy at CC, as well as his most recent interviews, it doesn't sound like that's an option in their minds at the moment. I personally don't think a breakup would be a curve ball because, like I said many times, there are other things I would be much less happy with than a separation (but I won't go into that discussion right now), but in any case I don't think the writers seem interested in telling any other story with Shamy than this slow-paced romance. 

 

If by curveball you mean something else, like Sheldon saying something really REALLY nasty or one of them doing something stupid, who knows! Depends whether Chuck shows up in the writers room with his evil hat on that morning

[Cecilia]

I found what I'm gonna be wearin the day this episode airs

 

 

French fries, brownies, avocados...Shamy is very yummy indeed!!!! Also tea lots of tea!!!!! I will add strawberry quick to that cause you know Amy makes it really tasty

[Stefania]

What I think is making me particularly positive is that – imo – it's been a while since I've read a report that just makes me go: "Yes, *that* is Shamy!" and, if things keep going this way, I might come out of these first episodes feeling as satisfied as I haven't been in a long time. Even if nothing "important" happens during November sweeps, if I have to be completely honest. Of course, these are just the first three episodes out of a whole season and everything could happen between here and the season finale, but it makes me feel hopeful because it's been a while since I've read this Shamy and it's been a while since I've read this Amy. Meaning, I am positive that the writers know what they're doing (famous last words, TPTB? ).

 

I think I've said this before, but more than the big events, I'm interested in seeing all the little things that are shown to us, the day to day interactions, etcetera. Plus, I'm actually kind of glad that things got resolved in a way that give you a hint or a glimpse of how things are working out (the whole Date Nights thing) without a turn for the drama. If anything, the lighthearted mood I'm gathering from these first three episodes feels like fresh air, and that is also something I really needed to see, especially for Shamy.

[notchinc]

KEEP VOTING  SHAMY IS BEHIND

[Judge-Apatow]

Okay random thought but has anyone here think that Sheldon is kind of a feminist? Sure, he has made some insensitive comments to Penny about her at times lack of femininity, her menstrual cycle, etc but he on occasion has exemplified a feminist mind set. One of the scientists on his screen was Marie Curie, rather than many of the other notable scientists he could have chosen to display, he was most helpful in Leonard's endeavor to get more girl's in science. In fact in that episode he straight out said he believes women and men should be at the same level (and incorporated Star wars or trek or whatever), he was threatened by Leslie Winkel whereas Kripke's success was a surprise to him and he refrained from using the term "bros before hoes" so he wouldn't offend the hoes. I don't know I just felt the need to express this thought even though it basically has nothing to do with where the show is going. 

[boys3allc]

Okay random thought but has anyone here think that Sheldon is kind of a feminist? Sure, he has made some insensitive comments to Penny about her at times lack of femininity, her menstrual cycle, etc but he on occasion has exemplified a feminist mind set. One of the scientists on his screen was Marie Curie, rather than many of the other notable scientists he could have chosen to display, he was most helpful in Leonard's endeavor to get more girl's in science. In fact in that episode he straight out said he believes women and men should be at the same level (and incorporated Star wars or trek or whatever), he was threatened by Leslie Winkel whereas Kripke's success was a surprise to him and he refrained from using the term "bros before hoes" so he wouldn't offend the hoes. I don't know I just felt the need to express this thought even though it basically has nothing to do with where the show is going.

No, in no way is he a feminist. In the first season Leslie comments that he is misogynistic. He has at times said a plethora of insensitive things towards women.

"Your ovary's are squirting goofy juice"

"Woman are like egg salad sandwich in Texas on a hot summer day in Texas full of eggs and only good for a short time."

"Eat one of your Luna bars often when woman are mad they are just hungry"

Not to mention whenever a woman is upset around him he immediately goes to them being on their period. And he will be the first to admet he does not know the first thing about women. So as much as adore Dr.Cooper no he is not a feminist.

Edited September 6, 2014 by boys3allc

[kerrycec03]

No, in no way is he a feminist. In the first season Leslie comments that he is misogynistic. He has at times said a plethora of insensitive things towards women.

"Your ovary's are squirting goofy juice"

"Woman are like egg salad sandwich in Texas on a hot summer day in Texas full if eggs and only good for a short time."

"Eat one of your Luna bars often when woman are mad they are just hungry"

Not to mention whenever a woman is upset around him he immediately goes to them being on their period. And he will be the first to admet he does not know the first thing about women. So as much as adore Dr.Cooper no he us not a feminist.

No I do not think he is a feminist.....Now in the terms of knowledge & education yes he can see women being just as smart with the same abilities as men BUT (a big but) he also sees them dictated by biological urges/desires/etc that make women women (if that makes sense).  He still has some of those old world thoughts about women in general though (probably worse than any of the other guys)

Edited September 6, 2014 by kerrycec03

[koops]

I think Sheldon sees everyone as inferior and driven by biological urges, it's not a matter of men over women. He's said the same kind of stuff plenty of times about men, and I think a lot of his old world views are just about parroting back what his father used to say without thinking about it. So I honestly don't believe Sheldon is genuinely sexist, especially because he does have a lot of respect for the women in his life and for female scientists.

But I don't think one can say he's a feminist either or he *would* be thinking about how what he says is sexist nonsense before the words come out of his mouth. The truth is, again, he sees "humans" as inferior to start with, and feminism implies a form of activism in favor of other people, which is something Sheldon couldn't care less about.

Edited September 6, 2014 by koops

[Cecilia]

I don't think Sheldon is meant to be feminist or sexist but I really wish that he is never going to comment how an angry woman must be on her period again. It was funny at first cause it showed how oblivious Sheldon can be especially about things he does and make people angry and how literal he takes some things. I mean not every woman is angry during their period snapping even when people say something as simple as good morning. But it's just not that funny now I wish he never says something along these lines again. Him or any other character tbh.

[rachelshamyfan]

Changing the subject some what but I can see what Bill Prady meant about the writing team having written some great episodes for the start of the season

The first three have only improved IMO and without even seeing the 3rd one it sounds great for shamy

[Rae]

I think that Sheldon has absolutely no problem with women having equal rights and opportunities as men, but, being a misanthrope, he has no interest in going out of his way to support it. He doesn't care to support feeding children, the eradication of disease, the humane treatment of animals, or world peace, either (and the show is no place for those issues to be addressed). That's just Sheldon. He's no activist, he's no humanitarian.

He disrespects men just as much as he does women, anyway, probably even more so with men. It's a result of Sheldon's total lack of social skills, along with his misanthropy. Honestly, he tends to cause an altercation with most anyone he has a conversation with, regardless of their gender. He only respects a very small group of people, and a large portion of them are either fictional or dead.

His main reason for holding someone in high regard is because of their intellectual caliber, or because of their role in a Sci-Fi franchise -- in these decisions, he doesn't pay attention to variables such as gender or appearance. He's never let on that women are any less deserving of his respect than men are; just that people in general aren't worthy of it.

[wowbagger]

Okay random thought but has anyone here think that Sheldon is kind of a feminist? Sure, he has made some insensitive comments to Penny about her at times lack of femininity, her menstrual cycle, etc but he on occasion has exemplified a feminist mind set. One of the scientists on his screen was Marie Curie, rather than many of the other notable scientists he could have chosen to display, he was most helpful in Leonard's endeavor to get more girl's in science. In fact in that episode he straight out said he believes women and men should be at the same level (and incorporated Star wars or trek or whatever), he was threatened by Leslie Winkel whereas Kripke's success was a surprise to him and he refrained from using the term "bros before hoes" so he wouldn't offend the hoes. I don't know I just felt the need to express this thought even though it basically has nothing to do with where the show is going. 

 

I've actually wondered about this myself, but then the show has him reel off a slew of absolutely disgusting, Dark Age 'green sickness and hysteria'-level codswallop about ovaries squirting goofy juice and whatever that thing about egg salad was (ugh, boys, I agree, that was vile). 

 

The episode with those lines, though... they bothered me not just on general principles but because they betrayed a pointed misogyny that I'd never associated with Sheldon's character. I am willing to write it off as an anomaly, since I've said before that there's a version of Sheldon that I vastly prefer: the version that is clear-eyed about the value of role models in attracting young women to STEM, and the value of early interventions in so doing. But is it wishful thinking for me to say that that episode is the 'true' Sheldon, and the idiotic mediaeval-medicine spouting was the off episode? And what do we make of the observation that Sheldon's instances of prickish misogyny have occurred in the more recent past? Maybe the slightly disturbing idea that along with Sheldon's interest in sex has come other, darker manifestations of adolescence, such as fascination with and fear of the opposite sex? 

 

Nah, Occam's Razor. Both the episodes I quoted had Sheldon behave a certain way because the plot needed him to. For the most part, I'd agree with koops and sonic that Sheldon isn't a feminist or a misogynist, so much as a misanthrope and intellectual elitist.

Edited September 6, 2014 by wowbagger

[Cassalia]

No I do not think he is a feminist.....Now in the terms of knowledge & education yes he can see women being just as smart with the same abilities as men BUT (a big but) he also sees them dictated by biological urges/desires/etc that make women women (if that makes sense).  He still has some of those old world thoughts about women in general though (probably worse than any of the other guys)

Very old world! And I'm pretty sure a lot of this was influenced by his father, who seemed to have been very old school about men's treatment of women. So I think in some ways this is Sheldon parroting what he's overheard from his father. The difference is that Sheldon truly doesn't believe that women can't be as accomplished as men. He's always mentioned how brilliant Amy is and one of his idols is Marie Curie. 

[boys3allc]

I hope they do a Halloween episode this year! In my imanging of it Stuart would get his comic book store back and to celebrate throw a Halloween party. Raj would bring Emily and they would be dressed in a couples costume. The rest of the group would be in couples costumes as well (for some reason I can not get the idea of Sheldon and Amy dressed as Kermit and Miss Piggy out of my head, probably the tall annoying frog line). They find out somehow that Emily is a little dark and strange (I get this hunch that is where they are going with her character.) Anyway that was my random head canon of the day.

[Sheldonswife]

I wan't them to dress as something Amy(or I)  wants this year.....like Cinderella and Prince Charming....

[Shamylessabrina]

Or as Blossom and Joey ^^

[Susana Alcira]

This season I want a New Year's Eve episode! (they did it only in season 4)

Halloween would be nice, but OF COURSE I want a Valentine episode again!

(and a Birthday episode would be great!)

[CaffeineBuzz]

I would be floored if they didn't do a Halloween episode given that their first night back on Thursdays is October 30th.

[TheShamyShipper]

Kermit and Miss Piggy would be hilarious!!  I think it would be very sweet if Sheldon gave in and did a costume SHE wanted for once though.  It would go along with Molaro's comment about the things that are important to her becoming more important to him as well.

[kerrycec03]

I would be floored if they didn't do a Halloween episode given that their first night back on Thursdays is October 30th.

Yea the timing of it is basically asking for it. I would enjoy another Halloween episode too!!

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[boys3allc]

Kermit and Miss Piggy would be hilarious!!  I think it would be very sweet if Sheldon gave in and did a costume SHE wanted for once though.  It would go along with Molaro's comment about the things that are important to her becoming more important to him as well.

And didn't they say they had Muppet Baby costumes at one point?