Ship Zone [Spoilers]Leonard And Penny Season 8 Thread

[Tensor]

He'd spot the difference as soon as he walked in. Too risky. Wouldn't want another strike against their names ( onion ring all over again)

 

I'm not so sure Leonard is concerned about strikes from Sheldon, getting strikes from Penny would now be another matter entirely.

[eirwinrommel]

There is one way L/P could move away (outside the bldg.) without a major change to the set. L/P could move into another bldg. made by the same company that built their building. They could comment how the new bldg. looks just like their old one, even has the same broken elevator. Maybe at 2313 N Los Robles Ave..

Edited June 30, 2014 by eirwinrommel

[SRAM]

I really think the season will start with the inference that Leonard and Penny have spent the whole summer together nesting and the season will begin with them sleeping every night together, so every morning we are going to have scenes of Leonard Penny and Sheldon. I bet the writers will delay addressing the moving thing by showing Lenny together a lot, so the moving won't be a big issue, and they can delay it. Of course after the first half of season 7, I wondered what the hell was happening to Lenny, so what do I know.

[3ku11]

S8 it could start with Lenny moved in together in 4b, not sure what well happen but I can see S8 start with Lenny nesting in 4b.

[CaffeineBuzz]

Actually, though I'm generally not a fan of the whole Penny and Sheldon lovefest they kept pushing this year, there's alot of comedy potential in Leonard moving into Penny's place and slowly driving Penny kinda nuts in the adjustment phase . I could see them playing it where she escapes back across the hall every once in a while and having Sheldon be all like "why are you still here??" That and they could bond over Leonard's perceived "annoying roomate" habits. It would be a flipping the coin kinda situation. Cause trust me, no matter how much time you spend with your loved one, the annoying quirks really only manifest once you live with them... Up til that point its like you have blinders on *lol*

Edited June 30, 2014 by CaffeineBuzz

[SRAM]

Actually, though I'm generally not a fan of the whole Penny and Sheldon lovefest they kept pushing this year, there's alot of comedy potential in Leonard moving into Penny's place and slowly driving Penny kinda nuts in the adjustment phase . I could see them playing it where she escapes back across the hall every once in a while and having Sheldon be all like "why are you still here??" That and they could bond over Leonard's perceived "annoying roomate" habits. It would be a flipping the coin kinda situation. Cause trust me, no matter how much time you spend with your loved one, the annoying quirks really only manifest once you live with them... Up til that point its like you have blinders on *lol*

That could work both ways, Penny could move in with Leonard, and Sheldon could keep complaining to Leonard about her bad habits. Can you see Sheldon walking into the bathroom to find Penny's delicate hand washables hanging on the shower rod, he would only yell one word "LEONARD!"

[Itwasdestined]

That could work both ways, Penny could move in with Leonard, and Sheldon could keep complaining to Leonard about her bad habits. Can you see Sheldon walking into the bathroom to find Penny's delicate hand washables hanging on the shower rod, he would only yell one word "LEONARD!"

 I think the bigger issue would be how he copes with her "shedding of her uterine lining" products!

[CaffeineBuzz]

That could work both ways, Penny could move in with Leonard, and Sheldon could keep complaining to Leonard about her bad habits. Can you see Sheldon walking into the bathroom to find Penny's delicate hand washables hanging on the shower rod, he would only yell one word "LEONARD!"

For sure! It could even play out that Leonard moves in with Penny and Leonard runs to Sheldon complaining that Penny is messy or whatever. Which ever way the living arangements play out, i'm sure they'll play up the "adjustment period" humour as there's just too many jokes and situations that would be comedy gold. The only situation I hope they don't go with is for Penny and Leonard to be complaining too much to the point that Sheldon tries to cling to that as proof that Leonard should just move back in with him. No backwards sliding on living arangements!

Edited June 30, 2014 by CaffeineBuzz

[SRAM]

I agree the adjustment period could be really funny. I could see Penny coming over to Sheldon's because Leonard, Howard and Raj are watching a Babylon 5 marathon. Sheldon telling her she is lucky because he is watching something much better, DR WHO and her rolling her eyes and going back to her apartment.

[CaffeineBuzz]

Lol that would be histerical. Welcome to nerd/geek world Penny . One of us, one of us... FOREVER! Lol

[Nogravitasatall]

Remember 'Felicity'.

I recall it (vaguely) and I'm still good. Three years already contracted and the trichophiliac's can go nuts about Emily2. . I have my thoughts about what Ms Cuoco-Sweeting was saying which I have expressed on the cast pages. But it could be that changes are coming and are blessed by TPTB. Or we see hair extensions .

He'd spot the difference as soon as he walked in. Too risky. Wouldn't want another strike against their names ( onion ring all over again)

Hmm. Let Sheldon tremble for a change. The power structure may have been altered, unless something like, I don't know, say hubris, strikes down L/P. I can't wait to see how it plays. It may be more of the same or perhaps skewed differently. They are perhaps going to have to explain why L/P stay in the same building which could be interesting. Why isn't Leonard scooping up Penny in his arms and running? Gotta be a reason for that.

Actually, though I'm generally not a fan of the whole Penny and Sheldon lovefest they kept pushing this year, there's alot of comedy potential in Leonard moving into Penny's place and slowly driving Penny kinda nuts in the adjustment phase . I could see them playing it where she escapes back across the hall every once in a while and having Sheldon be all like "why are you still here??" That and they could bond over Leonard's perceived "annoying roomate" habits. It would be a flipping the coin kinda situation. Cause trust me, no matter how much time you spend with your loved one, the annoying quirks really only manifest once you live with them... Up til that point its like you have blinders on *lol*

Yes. Though seven years is a long trial period. Penny has had a lot of time to become accustomed to Leonard's peculiarities. It won't count of course if they need it to be funny. They may have sleep with the window open more than before to maintain air quality. She might not like that in the long run.

[SRAM]

I can see more problems with Sheldon trying to keep things the same while Leonard and Penny adjust to their new status. I could even see Sheldon and Penny competing for Leonard's attention. It would be so funny if Sheldon planned a party for "Leonard's Day" and Penny found out and tried to one-up him.

[3ku11]

I can see Sheldon reacting to change the same way Charlie did in Taahm when Chelsie moved in, his entire room and bathroom changed and reflected a girls apartment lol. Just a side note but Kaley and marrage yeah Ill reserve my thoughts for the cast thread anyway. I can see with now Penny and Leonard most likely officially living together in 4b, before that though problem is with the living arrangements, is clearly Sheldon but they are also neighbours (L and P), its not like Penny is engaged to some rich guy who travels, and needs to commute haha. Leonard and Penny live in close quarters, so its either here or their sorta deal. Maybe they could find another bldn unit, but from a production value standpoint not sure how practical that would be. Maybe Penny well start to like Sci Fi flicks now that she is fully integrated in their world haha, I still want to a scene where gets to audition for a low budget sci fli indi flick, and gets the guys to do auditions with her, and the guys go way over the top with costumes and all lol.

[5Mississippis]

Actually, though I'm generally not a fan of the whole Penny and Sheldon lovefest they kept pushing this year

 

Completely agree. I found the Shennyness of multiple episodes last seasons very off-putting. I only watched them once so I fully admit that my references are at best sketchy. But I hated the ones where Penny and Sheldon, finding some commonality, ganged up on Leonard or when Penny would run off complaining that Leonard didn't support her (admittedly he didn't shine in some of those moments -- he should have held her and not discussed her odds of finding success as an actress). But I digress.

 

For season 8, I have a sinking feeling that TPTB will move Penny into 4A and we will be treated to all sorts of Shennyness. Why? Because the canon fans of Lenny and Shamy will be tuning in anyway but with Penny in 4A, they can have plenty of Penny and Sheldon moments that will continue to tease and not disenfranchise what seems to be a healthy part of the viewing population, the Shenny. 

[BangerMain]

Completely agree. I found the Shennyness of multiple episodes last seasons very off-putting. I only watched them once so I fully admit that my references are at best sketchy. But I hated the ones where Penny and Sheldon, finding some commonality, ganged up on Leonard or when Penny would run off complaining that Leonard didn't support her (admittedly he didn't shine in some of those moments -- he should have held her and not discussed her odds of finding success as an actress). But I digress.

 

For season 8, I have a sinking feeling that TPTB will move Penny into 4A and we will be treated to all sorts of Shennyness. Why? Because the canon fans of Lenny and Shamy will be tuning in anyway but with Penny in 4A, they can have plenty of Penny and Sheldon moments that will continue to tease and not disenfranchise what seems to be a healthy part of the viewing population, the Shenny. 

 

One thing is certain, the powers that be did NOT satisfy the Shenny viewing population during season 7. The Paradox website for Shennys is just about dead and the new ShennyHQ site has virtually all of its members declaring that they will or have already stopped watching the show.

 

When you think of all the "Shenny" moments of season 7, none of them led anywhere. At least toward some deepening of the relationship of Sheldon and Penny.

 

- the bonding moment of episode 1, where Penny and Sheldon share inner most secrets and a hug, was cancelled out by episode 2 where Leonard returns and L/P hide from Sheldon. Sheldon ended up feeling betrayed.

 

- The Scavenger game had them as unhappy teammates where they were pretty much on their own at the end. Penny was more interested in punishing Leonard then cooperating with Sheldon.

 

- Amy's imaginative story of how Penny would have come on to Sheldon sexually if Leonard was not in the picture, ended with Penny looking pained and the guys disgusted (except for Stuart). That scene was the most obvious Shenny bone being thrown this year. And the scene ended with Sheldon rejecting Penny while describing how he was saving himself for a woman that fit the description of Amy. It made no sense at all anyway. If you rewatch the episode, you clearly hear Bernadette setup the premise of what their existence would be like if Sheldon was NOT in their lives. That meant Penny's life too!

 

- The Sheldon we are both "Dreamers" line supporting Penny's quitting the Cheesecake Factory for acting was so out character for Sheldon that the writers could not resist having Penny look at him and joke that she should leave the windows cracked when she leaves him in the car. This really went no where as S/P ganged up on Leonard only to find out in a later episode that Sheldon really did not follow through on his support. Leonard turned out to be right about Penny's foolishly quitting and when her car broke down, Leonard was the one to support her while Sheldon was annoyed that she interrupted his game night with her problems.

 

- Penny and Sheldon went off to a fortune teller who then proceeded to give him a future where the key to his success in life was Amy. If you are a shenny that had to be insulting. That whole scene was so silly, you wonder how the writers let that one into a script. It was simply an attempt to have some Shenny time.

 

Most of the second half of season 7 was spent having Penny slowly undoing the dependance of Sheldon on Leonard ending with Penny telling Leonard to let Sheldon leave and being surprisingly unconcerned about Amy's distress. Season 7 had the promised "Shenny" scenes that Molaro said were going to come at the start of the season but they were all hollow. It was window dressing in service of the canon story.

 

You can see why the Shennys are pretty much done with the show. And season 8 is likely to be Lenny and Shamy heavy with L/P getting married and S/A going thru relationship drama like the Lenny did in Season 4.

Edited July 2, 2014 by BangerMain

[kerrycec03]

I'm ok if the romantic Shenny fans are done....Never EVER understood that theory.

 

Shenny as a friendship is different...and while I KNOW a lot will differ from my views, the Shenny friendship did help bring Lenny together back in the day.

Edited June 30, 2014 by kerrycec03

[SRAM]

I'm ok if the romantic Shenny fans are done....Never EVER understood that theory.

 

Shenny as a friendship is different...and while I KNOW a lot will differ from my views, the Shenny friendship did help bring Lenny together back in the day.

I'm ok if the romantic Shenny fans are done....Never EVER understood that theory.

 

Shenny as a friendship is different...and while I KNOW a lot will differ from my views, the Shenny friendship did help bring Lenny together back in the day.

Makes you wonder how many times Penny has to say 'You are not the one' to Sheldon before they get it. But to be honest, I have a problem now with Sheldon and Amy, he is way too demeaning to her, just like he is with Penny, however Penny just blows him off, Amy has been made needy and takes his abuse most of the time. I really think the best girl for Sheldon was Ramona, because she had some control over his crazy, that hasn't been obtainable by Amy yet.

[kerrycec03]

Ok Ramona was a pyscho...hands down.  

 

I agree Amy comes across very very needy, but again, she's like Leonard was seasons ago....I know a LOT of people who are like her though.  While its not ideal, Amy's history (from what we've seen) is that she is a pleaser.  She was desperate to have Penny like her (albeit it was creepy at times)...And she will do anything to make him happy...Now while its not perfect, it is common.  BUT, I really do think on this "journey" he will grow to appreciate her more....might take at least a half a season to "get there" but it will happen.

[SRAM]

Ok Ramona was a pyscho...hands down.  

 

I agree Amy comes across very very needy, but again, she's like Leonard was seasons ago....I know a LOT of people who are like her though.  While its not ideal, Amy's history (from what we've seen) is that she is a pleaser.  She was desperate to have Penny like her (albeit it was creepy at times)...And she will do anything to make him happy...Now while its not perfect, it is common.  BUT, I really do think on this "journey" he will grow to appreciate her more....might take at least a half a season to "get there" but it will happen.

Your right, of course, that Amy and Leonard share similarities, but Penny and Sheldon are not the same. Penny is loving and she tries not to hurt Leonard, but when she does, she suffers too. Sheldon just doesn't care who he hurts, many times he needs to be told he is hurting her and told to fix it. When he hurt her with Wil Wheaton, Penny had to explain it to him and get him drunk to do something. He is just mentally abusive to her and I guess I'm sensitive to it because I'm an Amy fan.

BTW Penny's second choice, after Leonard, is Raj. Howard and Sheldon are the ones she specifically said she would not date.

Also people newly engaged are usually wrapped up in the good feelings of that they have just committed to marry each other, so being more concerned about themselves instead of other people right now is normal for Leonard and Penny.

[Nogravitasatall]

I think there is something in the idea of Leonard and Penny sparking off each other at home. He wanted this abstract thing from day one, she ran away from it incessantly and has only just flipped. I'm sure they will be given plenty of rope to play with. They have enough inbuilt contrasts for conflict and humour. But the show throws the switch to cartoon sometimes and Sheldon is always available to throw gasoline onto any fireworks and escalate the situation. Its an easy formula to get the laugh and it puts the three leads in the one room. They are kind of trapped with it.

I do expect to see Sheldon as being more an antagonist this year, because what sort of crappy fiancée runs off with the jerk flatmate? She can't bail out on Leonard too many times without looking like someone horrible.

Commercial imperatives may result in someone being painted in a worse light than Sheldon, just to make him less the villain. I hope its not either of these two.

[Carlos]

If Lenny have been together all summer, and Sheldon isn't back from his trip, I see no reason why Leonard and Penny would be in 4 B. They would of course be in 4 A since it is the larger apartment and they would have it to themselves. Once Sheldon returns, it would be another matter, and I'm sure that after some trials and tribulations things would get back to the status quo  for the time being.

[Itwasdestined]

If Lenny have been together all summer, and Sheldon isn't back from his trip, I see no reason why Leonard and Penny would be in 4 B. They would of course be in 4 A since it is the larger apartment and they would have it to themselves. Once Sheldon returns, it would be another matter, and I'm sure that after some trials and tribulations things would get back to the status quo  for the time being.

Way too rational, Carlos  . Where's the fighting between Shamy and Lenny and complicated new roommate scenarios?

To be honest, I don't see the rush for them to make the move right away. If they move, they move, if they don't they don't. Even in the finale, Penny says to Amy when she asks about living arrangements that at some point, I'll move in with him or he'll move in with me. Leonard was probably being a bit gentle with the man-child but he threw in a couple of mights and maybes and we've just started thinking about it in his conversation. Just because they are engaged doesn't mean they have to officially move in with each other before marriage. Howard and Bernie had a bit of a trial run but they didn't move in together until they were married ( granted Howard had some major Mommy issues!). Maybe it was the traditional Irish/Maltese Catholic backgrounds but my wife and I didn't move in together until after the wedding and I was living in our new house alone for 4 months. Now like Penny and Leonard we spent a lot of time alone there, just like they will be in 4A during Sheldon's absence, and on weekends my wife stayed there, but during the week she still lived at her parents' home where she always had, organising the wedding and keeping cool being closer to work and not being stressed out about having to make the big move and all that. Penny and Leonard are virtually with each other all the time anyway, the hall between apartments is virtually a connecting room and from Season 7 you could tell it was pretty much 'pick a room' where they spent the night in many episodes so maybe they don't need to rush into it until a 'few issues' get ironed out. Maybe this gives the writers time to work out how to do it well and in the meantime they can maintain the established successful group dynamic and throw in the typical conflicts and tensions until the inevitable move eventuates.

 

In the meantime, the opposing forces on this forum can continue to run through the same preferred scenarios until this damned show starts again and they put us out of our misery (or increase the misery if you are easily disappointed!) 

Edited July 1, 2014 by Itwasdestined

[Anita Rez]

There's no way there would be enough room (not to mention the door directions would be all wrong) for another apartment "A" in the Studio. And the changeover from 4A to 5A would simply take too much time.

Hmmmmmmm, I wonder if they would turn his train engines around before using his bed?

Nah.  His superheroes....now that's another story.

[eirwinrommel]

Sheldon just doesn't seem to care about anyone that's not my Nobel Prize, and since the beginning always need's to be told what he does and says is not on. To be honest though it is not all Sheldon's fault, his friends do enable his behaviour, Amy does too. I remember in S2 Penny when banned from 4a, she told Leonard you guys have got to stop letting Sheldon walk all over you, you know stop enabling his behaviour, Sheldon well never learn and grow if he feels he can get away with it, maybe they should of listened to Penny mmmmm. And I don't think Raj was Penny's second choice in terms of attainability, more theoritcal scnerario, he was rich so Penny was like Damn maybe I was too quick to dump him lol. Like Sheldon said compared to the rest of the guys your a mackdaddy (Talking to Leonard). 

From my own experience, the only reason Sheldon is tolerated is because a.) The group needs a place to meet (to play board games, computer games etc.) with the possibility of leaving things set up for multiple sessions. b.) They need a minimum number of people to make their activities enjoyable  (many games just play better with 4 players than 3. c.) Two members of the group live there, the space is big enough to leave things set up, (If not for Sheldon it would be perfect) so it's just easier to meet at that location.

The big downside is that their meeting place is also Sheldon's Apt. That's the main reason they have for putting up with Sheldon's crap. If they could secure another suitable location (not likely since that means building another set) or Sheldon moves across the hall (and they can secure a fifth player) Sheldon can suck it.

As for Amy putting up with Sheldon I think it's a case of lack of self esteem, combined with the fact that for some reason she's fallen in love with Sheldon. Sooner or later something's gonna give.

Edited July 1, 2014 by eirwinrommel

[SRAM]

If there is normal progression, Leonard and Penny will get even closer in Season 8. If you look at season 6, they got closer the whole season. In season 7, the writers had tried to delay them a little by giving us some Shenny friendship, but the in the second half of the season they moved them closer again to the engagement. Concerning the engagement, I feel it was done over several episodes, not one. I really think that Penny committed to him when he gave her the car, not because he gave it to her, but because she accepted it without reservation or argument. That was when she accepted him as her partner, after that the rest of the engagement was just everything else falling in place. So for season 8, I expect some delay, due to Sheldon coming back and the living arrangements, and maybe the wedding stress, but they will be closer by the end.