Ship Zone [Spoilers]Leonard And Penny Season 8 Thread

[hokie3457]

After 7 Seasons, sometimes you have to stop & think when trying to remember...

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[Tonstar17]

So true... re - watching season 1 again right now. Got the week off so I ve decided to have a BBT marathon, aiming to get to season 7 final by Sunday.

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[3ku11]

Funny thing is all these women that seemed on paper perfect that is on the surface for Leonard, but ended up having something inherently wrong with them. Stephanie seemed perfect for Leonard, but then obviously turned out she had deep seeded insecurities and was kinda a nutter lol. Priya seemed great for Leonard on the surface too, only flaw she had was she wasne't Penny haha, but she also had an inherent issue with Leonard's interest in geek culture. I remember that ep in S4 when the guys were helping Sheldon find his gaming acc, Priya rolled her eyes and almost seemed embarrassed a guy at Leonard's age would be interested in such futile thing's, I mean really Leonard! And Joyce Kim defected to China was it, and the French Phd, Dr Plimpton, that comic book girl who also on the surface seemed perfect for Leonard, but actually come to think about it, as a viewer we didn't invest in her character enough to find out her deep seeded insecurities or issues, but I bet she had some! And then of course Alex who had no problem hitting on a guy who not only had a girlfriend, but his girlfriend was 5 metrers across the hall lol! So beyond all societies conventions and rules, who one is expected to date based on a whole lot of things; Personality, Education, Background, Physical Traits, Common Sense.... e.t.c. When Leonard and Penny are with anyone else, you don't feel this sense of intimacy, and you don't feel this sense they know each other more then anyone. Leonard is the only guy who has ever challenged Penny more then any guy ever has. They have this sense of belonging to each other, they are only themselves when they are together. That S4 ep when Penny went to help Sheldon and the guys with his gaming acc, showed me Penny appreciated Leonard for who he was, even when they were dating, she wasen't expected to put up with his geek interests, as she had no education on the matter, nor was she a Scientist or Lawyer, or Doctor so her mind was not as familiar as his other girlfriends. But to me Penny always accepted Leonard for who he was, and actually fell in love with that guy. I would like Leonard in the future to tell Penny, your the only girl who would go on a roadtrip to kick a guy in the cahonies, because he stole Sheldon's gaming acc.

Edited July 9, 2014 by 3ku11

[Tonstar17]

Penny is leonard's weakest link and Leonard is Penny's world. Leonard will do anything for Penny cause he loves her and wants her to be happy and penny, in her eyes wants him to always see her as perfect. He's the best thing that has ever happened in her life since she moved to Pasadena and he truly makes her happy. All Leonard ever wanted in return was penny's love, being waiting on penny's love since season 3. Now they are so solid and hopefully over her insecurities she is not running away from his love anymore.

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[Nogravitasatall]

I'm looking forward to them doing more of what made them so cute before - putting themselves out of their comfort zones on behalf of the other. Like Penny at the presentation on Bose-Einstein condensates and Leonard at her Halloween party. Its probably harder to setup up now but if they ever get a roadtrip back to Nebraska...

[3ku11]

I'm looking forward to them doing more of what made them so cute before - putting themselves out of their comfort zones on behalf of the other. Like Penny at the presentation on Bose-Einstein condensates and Leonard at her Halloween party. Its probably harder to setup up now but if they ever get a roadtrip back to Nebraska...

 

Talking about how they put each other out of each others comfort zones, what I thought was cute lol, was Penny going to Sheldon in S3 to learn more about Leonard's job. Clearly Penny and Kaley were out of their comfort zone then haha.

Edited July 10, 2014 by 3ku11

[cAntonio Santos]

Right to the point hokie3457, with Sheldon gone on his train trip, Lenny now have time for themselves away from Sheldon in seven years, more or less. There is calm in the Alpha Centauri system now, Sheldon (Proxima Centauri ) has assumed an elliptical orbit for the summer; leaving Alpha Centaur A and B ( Lenny ) in a see of tranquility and self bliss.  Sorry for the astronomy verbiage, but it describes Lenny and Sheldon perfectly.

[Itwasdestined]

I'm looking forward to them doing more of what made them so cute before - putting themselves out of their comfort zones on behalf of the other. Like Penny at the presentation on Bose-Einstein condensates and Leonard at her Halloween party. Its probably harder to setup up now but if they ever get a roadtrip back to Nebraska...

Great point nograv. I think Penny has shown more of this than Leonard in Season 7. It was clear in the Proton/Star Wars Day that she has tried harder to embrace the geek world of Leonard et al with her begrudging understanding of the Star Wars puns and the fact she was sitting through the marathon when they got back from the funeral. As well she tried the "you've taught him well Padawan" link at the train station as well. Leonard on the other hand was still griping about the stupid football game in Raiders and got out of it and the Valentines Lakers tickets were for Penny and someone who would enjoy it.

So I'd really like Leonard to really commit to enjoying Penny's interests more or at least embrace the struggle in Season 8. It will make for some interesting tension during the engagement /living together phase without too much drama. And since IMHO the show has leant more towards the premise that Penny has little in common with Leonard and has to adapt, I'd like the pendulum to swing in Season 8 towards Leonard has little in common with Penny and has to adapt. Go Sports!!

[3ku11]

Great point nograv. I think Penny has shown more of this than Leonard in Season 7. It was clear in the Proton/Star Wars Day that she has tried harder to embrace the geek world of Leonard et al with her begrudging understanding of the Star Wars puns and the fact she was sitting through the marathon when they got back from the funeral. As well she tried the "you've taught him well Padawan" link at the train station as well. Leonard on the other hand was still griping about the stupid football game in Raiders and got out of it and the Valentines Lakers tickets were for Penny and someone who would enjoy it.

So I'd really like Leonard to really commit to enjoying Penny's interests more or at least embrace the struggle in Season 8. It will make for some interesting tension during the engagement /living together phase without too much drama. And since IMHO the show has leant more towards the premise that Penny has little in common with Leonard and has to adapt, I'd like the pendulum to swing in Season 8 towards Leonard has little in common with Penny and has to adapt. Go Sports!!

 

See a bar scene with Lenny, I mean a lot of S7 you saw the characters partic the guys acting very adult like, I mean last week here in NZ I was watching a new episode of BBT the one where Mary guest's, and Howard and Sheldon were at a bar, and I was like Sheldon drinks?!?! lol. So seeing these characters doing more adult types things, like Lenny going to a bar and watching sports well be cool. IMO though the premise of their relationship, has Leonard has little in common with Penny, tbh they both have little in common, other then they love each other haha that was corny ahem. I Think S7 showed their differences may be skin deep, but their sames go straight to the bone. I liked they showed they do these little things a girl like Penny should be doing, she is the odd one out, the peculiar one, stranger in toon town. She should be going to sports games with her Friends, and I liked how in Raiders they showed that, despite Leonard's hesitance. Penny has shown more interest in Leonard's work the past couple season's, it would be great if Leonard payed her back. I also felt you saw a lot of Johnny and Kaley's relationship shining through L and P, more then previous season's like Lakers tickets, Kaleys a big Lakers fan.

Edited July 10, 2014 by 3ku11

[Tonstar17]

I think they have a lot in common and do lots of stuff together. it's just not shown on screen that much. I am sure they do lots of things as a couple. The writers do try to make out that they hate each others interests for comic effect. The thing is all the drama happens off screen and because TBBT is a comedy show we see more laughs and less drama and as the audience, we try to speculate as why they don't do this and that. Once in a while they do gives us hints, like when sheldon said to penny (can't remember the episode) you tell leonard what to do all the time, like make him change his jacket and penny said something like 'well I am not going to the mall with him dressed like a space bear'.

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[SRAM]

It would be cute if they could go out for wings and a beer to watch a game at hooters. I think it would be funny if the waitress hit on him and he just grabs penny's hand in his so her ring shows, to drive her away.

[Tonstar17]

It would be cute if they could go out for wings and a beer to watch a game at hooters. I think it would be funny if the waitress hit on him and he just grabs penny's hand in his so her ring shows, to drive her away.

And penny kisses him passionately & points at her body and is like, 'he liked it so much he put a ring on it'.

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[3ku11]

I think they have a lot in common and do lots of stuff together. it's just not shown on screen that much. I am sure they do lots of things as a couple. The writers do try to make out that they hate each others interests for comic effect. The thing is all the drama happens off screen and because TBBT is a comedy show we see more laughs and less drama and as the audience, we try to speculate as why they don't do this and that. Once in a while they do gives us hints, like when sheldon said to penny (can't remember the episode) you tell leonard what to do all the time, like make him change his jacket and penny said something like 'well I am not going to the mall with him dressed like a space bear'.

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Haha well after Priya changed Leonard's entire wardrobe, I think Penny is entitled to choose whether or not she want's to go to the mall with a space bear.

[Tonstar17]

Haha well after Priya changed Leonard's entire wardrobe, I think Penny is entitled to choose whether or not she want's to go to the mall with a space bear.

Well if Penny ever dumps leonard, he can get himself a female space bear. He's got a good job and he can afford salmon.

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[3ku11]

Well if Penny ever dumps leonard, he can get himself a female space bear. He's got a good job and he can afford salmon.

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I don't think Penny can afford to dump Leonard, yes that statement is up for interpretation .

[Tonstar17]

I don't think Penny can afford to dump Leonard, yes that statement is up for interpretation .

Hmmmm. For money.

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[cAntonio Santos]

nahh, Penny would not dump Leonard, in a Twilight Zone episode perhaps, Sheldon becomes normal, Howard is Married to Penny. And Lenardette are the couple.  Sounds like a nightmare.

[Tonstar17]

nahh, Penny would not dump Leonard, in a Twilight Zone episode perhaps, Sheldon becomes normal, Howard is Married to Penny. And Lenardette are the couple. Sounds like a nightmare.

Thanks for the nightmare.

[3ku11]

nahh, Penny would not dump Leonard, in a Twilight Zone episode perhaps, Sheldon becomes normal, Howard is Married to Penny. And Lenardette are the couple.  Sounds like a nightmare.

 

I think in that nightmare Sheldon is married to Penny lol. I was watching the Lord of Rings ep in S3, and it striked me how much Sheldon made fun of Leonard and Penny's relationship. Always making references what do they talk about after coitus, well considering his lack of couch coitus with Amy lol, I don't think he is in any position to pass judgement, or take the moral highground :D. In a Twilight Zone; Leonard is dating Bernadette, Howard is married to his fantasy women in the bathtub lol, Sheldon is dating Penny (which ends in spectacular fashion, when Penny takes Sheldon for a ride, and kicks him out of the car in the middle of no where lol), Raj is still single . Yeah that all sounds like a nightmare.

[Tonstar17]

I think in that nightmare Sheldon is married to Penny lol. I was watching the Lord of Rings ep in S3, and it striked me how much Sheldon made fun of Leonard and Penny's relationship. Always making references what do they talk about after coitus, well considering his lack of couch coitus with Amy lol, I don't think he is in any position to pass judgement, or take the moral highground :D. In a Twilight Zone; Leonard is dating Bernadette, Howard is married to his fantasy women in the bathtub lol, Sheldon is dating Penny (which ends in spectacular fashion, when Penny takes Sheldon for a ride, and kicks him out of the car in the middle of no where lol), Raj is still single . Yeah that all sounds like a nightmare.

Oh God, could you guys stop with this horror. Need to go to bed soon. going to have to sleep with the lights on.

[cAntonio Santos]

I think one of the reasons Leonard shies away from Penny's interests such as going to the bar and watch a football game has to do his immense insecurity with " taller guys then him ".  I think Leonard has a real problem with that, plus he would become really jealous if some guys start to hit on Penny.  He has absuletley not reason to be jealous at all, but that is how he is.  For Leonard, Penny is still like a dream come true, the girl that existed on his dreams but it became real, and she fell in love with him.  Would be great if Leonard took up some Penny's interests, but he is still shows immense insecurity with guys that are taller than him, and he gets really jealous if Penny gets hit on and he has no reason for it.  Deep down, Penny was the girl of his dreams which became reality, and this girl fell in love with him.

[Tonstar17]

I think one of the reasons Leonard shies away from Penny's interests such as going to the bar and watch a football game has to do his immense insecurity with " taller guys then him ". I think Leonard has a real problem with that, plus he would become really jealous if some guys start to hit on Penny. He has absuletley not reason to be jealous at all, but that is how he is. For Leonard, Penny is still like a dream come true, the girl that existed on his dreams but it became real, and she fell in love with him. Would be great if Leonard took up some Penny's interests, but he is still shows immense insecurity with guys that are taller than him, and he gets really jealous if Penny gets hit on and he has no reason for it. Deep down, Penny was the girl of his dreams which became reality, and this girl fell in love with him.

Agreed. But I also think it's not all about taller guys hitting on her it's about penny chatting to her male sporty friends about what's happening during the game and him just sitting there feeling bored. As you said, he needs to get into the game and the rules so when they do go to watch football, he can bond with Penny's friend and get involved with the banter & discussions and be accepted and not feel left out and insecure. Make the effort leonard. ..

You have nothing to worry about, you know you are the one she loves.

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[3ku11]

To be fair all that insecurity of Leonard jealous for a lack of better word of taller guys, and sports games, was really S3. Lately since S6 we have seen more evidence of Penny's insecurities coming to the surface, like when Alex hit on Leonard it really revealed Penny's deep seeded insecurities, that she didn't even think she had. Because as time has gone on, it has become more apparent to Penny all she has is extremely good looks, most likely those male friends even those female "cheerleader" type friends, weren't real friends, and she has outgrown them. So women like Priya, Alex e.t.c. Scare her, because it reminds her of how luckey she is to have a guy like Leonard. Guys like Zac, Mike, Kurt, DU (although he was a cross between dumb guys and Leonard, which really highlighted how genuine a guy Leonard is, considering he was married and therefore a creep) e.t.c. Are a dime in a dozen, getting a guy like Leonard from Penny's vantage point, is like finding a flower in a massive dirtpot. Penny never had the required depth or confidence to articulate her emotions, I mean she even gave Leonard a reason when he jumped the gun with the L Word, that she had said it before in the past, but it diddn't turn out so well. So I think she was forever projecting her own experiences onto her relationship with Leonard, it is not until she realized Leonard was different, she embraced her reality. I mean go back to S6 when Penny told Leonard she loves him, "You always do this Leonard, your the one I am with, you know that I love you". Obviousley she just blurted it out haha, but It came from a place of honesty. Penny was just frustrated that Leonard 1. Has insecurities and 2. Think's he is not good enough for Penny. When in reality he has no reason to have them, Penny does.

Edited July 11, 2014 by 3ku11

[SRAM]

That would make a couple great scenes in a episode. Penny takes Leonard to a sports bar and guys start to hit on her, just like he has told Penny, but now she really notices it because she is engaged to him, so she gets pissed. The next couple of scenes she is fawning all over him, hanging on him, feeding him, kissing him and just acting completely needy with him, having every guy in the place watching, completely jealous of Leonard. I would so like to see her do that.

[3ku11]

That would make a couple great scenes in a episode. Penny takes Leonard to a sports bar and guys start to hit on her, just like he has told Penny, but now she really notices it because she is engaged to him, so she gets pissed. The next couple of scenes she is fawning all over him, hanging on him, feeding him, kissing him and just acting completely needy with him, having every guy in the place watching, completely jealous of Leonard. I would so like to see her do that.

 

Guy start to hit on her when she has her ring off, so as an experiement she takes it off, while still with Leonard and 20 guys hit on her, then she puts it back on and starts kissing Leonard, and the looks on all the guys faces, damn maybe I should of payed attention in Biology class .