S8 Discussion Thread

[kerrycec03]

I agree both agreements help to maintain chaos even though it can border on the lines of control.

He has shown he is much more flexible with the RelAg vs the RA (probably because he doesn't mind those changes).

I think both agreements will be either thrown away or adjusted hugely in season 8

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[3ku11]

Well considering Sheldon abandoned Amy in the finalie, i wouldent play fast and loose with the word secure.

[phantagrae]

Well considering Sheldon abandoned Amy in the finalie, i wouldent play fast and loose with the word secure.

He didn't abandon Amy. He didn't single out his relationship with her as something he disliked, apart from her ill-timed move-in suggestion.

He was taking a time-out from everything, not breaking up with her or anything like that. He even talked to her when he checked in--not any of the others. They aren't breaking up.

I think all of the "Sheldon has to crawl back to Amy on his knees because he broke her heart!!!!" stuff is purely from some fans, not, IMO, what the writers intended to convey.

[Itwasdestined]

He didn't abandon Amy. He didn't single out his relationship with her as something he disliked, apart from her ill-timed move-in suggestion.

He was taking a time-out from everything, not breaking up with her or anything like that. He even talked to her when he checked in--not any of the others. They aren't breaking up.

I think all of the "Sheldon has to crawl back to Amy on his knees because he broke her heart!!!!" stuff is purely from some fans, not, IMO, what the writers intended to convey.

Agree, phanta. No abandonment. The phone call in the final scene is in character with his first response to waking up from his drunk night with geology - where's Amy, need to ring Amy to apologise for his actions - and his need to find her when she goes missing after the girls went wedding shopping without her in season 5. He needs time to work out his issues and needs to do it alone but Amy is still in the forefront of his thoughts to be contacting her to let her know what's happening. In other posts I've stressed how the importance of Lenny to him was played out in the finale but the finale subtly rammed home how important Amy is too. His comment to Stuart, "My girlfriend is so in love with me she wants to move in with me" is a huge recognition of the depth of feeling in this relationship. His reaction in the apartment to her suggesting it yet again may have sounded fierce but on another level, the mere sarcastic mention of engagement and settling down in a house suggests it is playing with his mind. Amy's whacking of Leonard is not a sign of Amy feeling abandoned by Sheldon but a display of how much she is missing him even knowing he is coming back to her, much like Penny and Sheldon missing Leonard knowing he was coming back from the North Sea.

So Season 8 can't skip over this too briefly. While there's no reason for us to think he needs to crawl back and apologise, I'm hoping for real discussion about the relationship. Whether on his voyage of personal discovery, Sheldon talks to strangers Forrest Gump style about his Amy in the early episodes or he returns quickly to open up to Amy one on one, the emotional explosion of that final discussion before leaving and the "malarkey" from the psychic can't be swept under the carpet. Shamy have had serious conversations before. They need one early in Season 8.

[Nogravitasatall]

I'm not going to get hung up about Amy whacking Leonard in front of Penny. But she has a history now. Under the "rule of three" she has to whack someone else. I'd like to think that when Sheldon returns, she whacks him. Off screen, if need be. But it could be a big scene for their reunion. It's certainly going to be awkward when he comes back, and Amy has a lot of pent up emotion that needs release. A little cathartic pounding on Sheldon might do her good.

The resolution of this break thing is something to look forward to for s8..

[Tensor]

...Amy has a lot of pent up emotion that needs release. A little cathartic pounding on Sheldon might do her good.

And, by extension, some of us.

[phantagrae]

Why would she pound Sheldon?

And who did she pound on besides Leonard?

Again, I don't think there is an issue between them. Though she didn't want him to leave, he didn't leave because of her. But she has to know that her suggestion about moving in with him was one of the things that upset him, and that was totally on her.

I do think that the reunion has the potential to be great, but not because Amy needs to pound on Sheldon and not because Sheldon needs to grovel or beg anyone for forgiveness.

[3ku11]

Well I woulden't blame Amy if she pounded Sheldon haha, I mean he has put her through a lot, so it would be understandable. But that would not achieve anything, it seems OOC for Amy to resort to violence anyway. They clearly have a lot of issues, but I Think if they just honestly talked through them, and Sheldon learnt to compromise a bit more and make Amy more of a priority, they well progress much better. I kinda think Sheldon needs to apologize to a range of people haha, but not for why he left.

Edited June 14, 2014 by 3ku11

[Nogravitasatall]

Why would she pound Sheldon?

And who did she pound on besides Leonard?

Again, I don't think there is an issue between them. Though she didn't want him to leave, he didn't leave because of her. But she has to know that her suggestion about moving in with him was one of the things that upset him, and that was totally on her.

I do think that the reunion has the potential to be great, but not because Amy needs to pound on Sheldon and not because Sheldon needs to grovel or beg anyone for forgiveness.

It's a euphemism... But never mind

*sigh*.

Edit: I just guessed that was what happened in the "frisky" Shamy fics. Lots of pounding, I'd of thought.

Edited June 14, 2014 by Nogravitasatall

[3ku11]

Their really needs to be a thesaurus or a dictionary on this site, the definition of Literal is... Anyway im hoping S8 brings some of the fun back, yeah they're growing up but the relationships seems to be heading towards endgame, Shamy are a bit Shaky, but they'll get their but I guess it's all up to Sheldon, Amy's all in whether or not Sheldon is well see. Prob more Science, what I mean by that is more dialogue involving science, and when it comes to romance, I've used this analogy but in Holocast Excitation Penny was seduced by Science, they need to go their a lot the guys seducing their girls with Science. Science is something Sheldon is very adept at, so maybe in some way seeing he is absoloutely clueless when it comes to relationships, watch I don't know a sci fi flick that has some form of romance, and maybe learn how to be romantic vicariously. More Paintball scenes, more roadtrips, comic con, more progression in Penny becoming a "working actress", I think breaking out into a famous star is unrealistic at this stage, like Leonard said a million to one shot. Seeing the way they have written Penny very realistic ,a struggling actress working as a waitress, now a struggling actress, cannot see them suddenly going from zero to being Superwomen and having a million followers on twitter, and the Golden Globe goes too... ironically Penny Doesent have a last name!

[rachelshamyfan]

Sheldon isn't absolutely clueless when it comes to relationships, he has without trying at some occasions managed to surprise Amy (in a good way)

Some examples

Even before they were officially b/g he went over to her apartment when she was upset about p&b going dress shopping and he stayed to comfort her

The relationship agreement that Amy thought was romantic

The emergency contact that Amy got very emotional about

The Superman speech

The d&d roleplay after his friends upset Amy, it was Sheldon that comforted Amy and reassured her

Its the little things that count

Edited June 14, 2014 by rachelshamyfan

[Itwasdestined]

It's a euphemism... But never mind

*sigh*.

Edit: I just guessed that was what happened in the "frisky" Shamy fics. Lots of pounding, I'd of thought.

Needs to get me one of those sarcasm ( or euphemism ) signs!

[Nogravitasatall]

Needs to get me one of those sarcasm ( or euphemism ) signs!image.jpg

I'm sure on the Shamy thread someone would've got pounding from context but people here are disappointingly classy. Lol. I am curious about their re-unification. It's got to be a sensitive issue. There may have to be reparations. I'd be a little ticked off, 'twere me. But it'll likely be done in one ep, then forgotten.

[Itwasdestined]

I'm sure on the Shamy thread someone would've got pounding from context but people here are disappointingly classy. Lol. I am curious about their re-unification. It's got to be a sensitive issue. There may have to be reparations. I'd be a little ticked off, 'twere me. But it'll likely be done in one ep, then forgotten.

Done in one ep? Oh no, six months of complaints about lack of continuity, poor story arc development, ignoring canon, is too much to handle. Please writers, do it justice! (sarcasm sign displayed!)

Edited June 14, 2014 by Itwasdestined

[3ku11]

Your right it is offtopic haha, considering this is your first post, you obviously had an intention and agenda in mind. I will go OT for a bit though, I don't even consider Bernadette "hot", cute at best. But that's my main preference and its all a matter of taste, Bernadette to me is the cute, adorable girl with a psychics degree. Penny is the sexy, gorgeous girl next door, I personally don't even think its a compeitition, but hey if your into Bernadette what ever floats your boat! haha, but seeing this is OT why not use your second post and dedicate a new thread to how "hot" Bernadette is , for the record saying Bernadette is waaay hotter then Penny, does not make Bernadette wayyy hotter then Penny. A thousand people could say Penny is waaaay hotter then Bernadette (and she prob is), but does not make Penny hotter then Bernadette. It is all perception, preference, and all taste. Its your prerogative. Anyway I do agree Stuart and Raj need some loving, but the whole lonlieness thing is not really funny tbh.

Edited June 17, 2014 by 3ku11

[tmp]

Changing the subject a bit, do you guys think Lenny will go through with the wedding in S8?  I wonder if they'll postpone it or call it off entirely.  I hope they tie the knot, but I'm having a hard time imagining it.  Then again, it was hard to imagine Howard getting married and, even more, moving out of his mother's house.

[Chiany]

Your right it is offtopic haha, considering this is your first post, you obviously had an intention and agenda in mind. I will go OT for a bit though, I don't even consider Bernadette "hot", cute at best. But that's my main preference and its all a matter of taste, Bernadette to me is the cute, adorable girl with a psychics degree. Penny is the sexy, gorgeous girl next door, I personally don't even think its a compeitition, but hey if your into Bernadette what ever floats your boat! haha, but seeing this is OT why not use your second post and dedicate a new thread to how "hot" Bernadette is , for the record saying Bernadette is waaay hotter then Penny, does not make Bernadette wayyy hotter then Penny. A thousand people could say Penny is waaaay hotter then Bernadette (and she prob is), but does not make Penny hotter then Bernadette. It is all perception, preference, and all taste. Its your prerogative. Anyway I do agree Stuart and Raj need some loving, but the whole lonlieness thing is not really funny tbh.

 

There is a difference between being Hot and being Beautiful, but of course, both aren't facts, just opinions.

Penny/Kaley to me is the Hot one, Bernadette the cute one and Mayim the beautiful one.

 

Changing the subject a bit, do you guys think Lenny will go through with the wedding in S8?  I wonder if they'll postpone it or call it off entirely.  I hope they tie the knot, but I'm having a hard time imagining it.  Then again, it was hard to imagine Howard getting married and, even more, moving out of his mother's house.

 

I think they will go through with it in s8.

They have build towards this almost the entire season 7 (at least the 2nd half).

 

If they postpone it, it's going to be close to the Shamy wedding, and I think they want to have some time between all weddings.

[3ku11]

That's if their is going to be a Shamy wedding, not so sure or definite on that account, Shamy are a long way off being secure let alone marrage. I agree re distinction between type's of beauty, no offense but personally I don't consider Mayim "Beautiful", I guess Kaley can cover all bases from hot to beautiful. I think the Lenny wedding well go ahead, but I could see Penny getting an acting chance of a lifetime, and postponing the wedding leaving Leonard devastated. Penny returns in S9 after the summer, and trys to win Leonard back, she eventually does and they get married in S9.

[kerrycec03]

I think the Lenny wedding will occur in season 9. In true sitcom fashion they'll be bumps to the altar

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[Chiany]

That's if their is going to be a Shamy wedding, not so sure or definite on that account, Shamy are a long way off being secure let alone marrage. I agree re distinction between type's of beauty, no offense but personally I don't consider Mayim "Beautiful", I guess Kaley can cover all bases from hot to beautiful. I think the Lenny wedding well go ahead, but I could see Penny getting an acting chance of a lifetime, and postponing the wedding leaving Leonard devastated. Penny returns in S9 after the summer, and trys to win Leonard back, she eventually does and they get married in S9.

 

Just like with Lenny, a Shamy wedding has been mentioned a few times by them, so I think there will be one in the final season (season 10).

[3ku11]

Oh has their ok my bad, don't get me wrong I really hope Shamy get their, just Sheldon is a bit irratic haha but well see.

[djsurrey]

Changing the subject a bit, do you guys think Lenny will go through with the wedding in S8?  I wonder if they'll postpone it or call it off entirely.  I hope they tie the knot, but I'm having a hard time imagining it.  Then again, it was hard to imagine Howard getting married and, even more, moving out of his mother's house.

 

Yoda ( Frank Oz ):

"Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future."   (see http://www.destinationhollywood.com/movies/starwars/moviequotes_yoda.shtml )

[phantagrae]

Skull, I don't know why you insist on saying that the Shamy relationship is shaky or not secure or whatever, or that Sheldon is erratic.  I think that the Shamy relationship is as much endgame as Lenny, they're just on a different timetable and they have a different set of obstacles to overcome, and will do so in their own way.

 

As for a Lenny wedding, I don't think L or P will get cold feet in any way, but I also don't think the wedding will happen this season, necessarily, simply for series logistical reasons.

Since the Lenny wedding is one of the big payoffs of the show, they're not going to want to spend that dollar too quickly.  If they anticipate having a Shamy wedding and a Lenny wedding, and maybe even one for Raj, they've got to time it all carefully.

 

The last thing they're going to want to do is have the big payoff and then have to kind of lame-duck it until the end of the 10th season.  And also, once L/P get married, then the change in living arrangements becomes more crucial.  They can probably get away with all kinds of experimental arrangements before hand, depending on how TPTB want to deal with the central set and who lives there.  But once the marriage happens, then the living arrangments have to be settled.

 

Also, there's the question of who gets married first--SHamy or Lenny?  Which wedding is the bigger payoff?  You save your momentous occasions for Sweeps and finales, so whose wedding or other big life event (whatever that may be--pregnancy? something else?) gets to be the finale of the whole show?

I don't think they'd like to burn both weddings in the same season and crowd each other, like with some crazy double-wedding scenario, so who would go first?

 

THose are all questions they'll need to think about, even if they don't plan to lay out every detail of the coming seasons.

 

But if they don't have L/P marry this season, I do think they'll have to come up with some sort of logistical reasons why the wedding can't happen right away.  Maybe she wasnts to save up some money for a fancy dress, or maybe she can't decide on what kind of ceremony she wants to have--or maybe she really does want to wait on her brother to get out of prison.

 

I don't think it's going to be about problems in the relationship or any kind of actual reluctance to get married.  I think they're just going to be giving them time to plan and then having issues come up along the way.

 

And if they want to marry off Raj, maybe he'll actually go first, like H/B did, since he's not one of the "big" lead characters.  If he were to get married by the end of the season or something, it wouldn't have any major impact on the ongoing Lenny/Shamy issues, but would still provide a relationship payoff, if they want to go there.  I don't want Raj to be the only one not married, and if they're going to be working toward L/P and S/A getting married, you don't want Raj and ?Emily? to take up one of the more major sweeps or finales when you only have 3 seasons left.

 

Whatever happens, I don't think we'll see the Lenny wedding so quickly.

[Shamyyes]

I believe that Lenny marries before Shamy so that the series ends with beautiful and smart babies for them.  I believe their wedding will be episode 200.  Which outs it in the middle of season 9 during a sweeps (I think).  That also follows Penny's 12  to 18 months for her brother.

 

 

I was also thinking that we have passed the midway of June.  It has been two months since we had the taping report of the final episode.  So only about two more months until we know about season 8 episode 1.  '

 

Although I am soooooo NOt wishing the summer over.  I miss the reports and new episodes.

Edited June 18, 2014 by Shamyyes

[Nogravitasatall]

L/P can't do anything quickly so I don't expect anything soon. And I can't get my head around Sheldon as a married man. I'm not fussed to see weddings happening in s8 (or maybe even s9), because it would be such a huge punctuation in their stories. I also can't imagine an L/P marriage where Sheldon gets to be as intimately intrusive as he (comically) is. Luckily I'm a viewer/consumer, so I'm prepared to be amazed/have everything explained to me.