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Yeah but he drove with Penny under extreme duress almost six years ago and nothing since. There is a big difference between that and trusting Amy enough to let her teach him to drive. As for the sleeping on her couch part that was just for laughs :p

I think the sleeping on the couch was just for laughs as well, just like him not liking Penny's new haircut.

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I think the sleeping on the couch was just for laughs as well, just like him not liking Penny's new haircut.

But what is funny in Season 3 isn't the same now in Season 8. Lenny moving in together seems more important than Penny's new haircut. The Sheldon driving is been there done that.
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But if i read correctly there are no scenes of Amy teaching Sheldon to drive, just the mention of it... which is ok. So i wouldn't say is 'being there done that'. Now, I do think the most important part of this episode is the idea of Leonard and Sheldon splitting their living arrangements and the rest is just detail- well, not exactly that,of course there are other plot lines, but is just a way of saying *shrug*. 

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I don't mind many Sheldon plots or plots around him. It's the constant and unnecessary insertion of him where he doesn't belong, just for the laughs. Sometimes it seems like they can't do funny scenes without him, which is not true, IMO.

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Sheldon is very centric in the show. Like it or not.. The viewers love him. And thats what the TPTB see. They give the viewers what they want. And they must be doing something right considering the ratings.

Not all viewers love him. Some hate the changes since seasons 1-3, some dislike his general assiness. As for the ratings, the three highest rated seasons are season three, Lenny was dating the first time; Season six, heavily Lenny; and season seven, again, Lenny, with a Penny career concentration.

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Thanks to Trina for the taping report!

I was having to stifle all my laughing so my coworkers wouldn't think I was crazy!

 

Lots of funny stuff.

 

I like that they've revisited the living arrangement question and that they approached it in this baby-steps kind of way.  I think it would be way too drastic if they changed things up all of a sudden.  While we know that Leonard has spent plenty of time in Penny's apartment, it was mainly for eating dinner and sleeping, but not really living--like showering, dressing, etc., which I think it kind of what this discussion is hinting at.  When L/P were first together, Sheldon mentioned them having their "amorous activities" in Penny's apartment, but that's not the same as living together.  Like we saw with Dr. Stephanie, she had clothes in Leonard's closet, brought in new bedding, personal articles in his bedroom, even moved his bat signal.

 

So far, as far as we know, Leonard hasn't really moved his stuff into Penny's place.  Now, of course, the one day a week thing is comedic exaggeration, but since this is a comedy and this is Sheldon we're talking about, it makes sense.  Maybe he'll keep a few things at Penny's place so he can shower and change there instead of having to walk back across the hall, and that means that he'd be having breakfast with her instead of with Sheldon, even if he still drives Sheldon to work, or whatever.

 

And I love that Sheldon is sleeping on their couch.  Again, since this is a comedy, it's a perfect tag to turn the whole "Leonard's living with Penny now" idea on its head.  Sheldon's version of compromising.

Perfect writing, IMO.

 

And I do love the conversation they have at the clothing store.  It does truly show the way Sheldon's brain works.  He thinks he's compromising.  And I also love that it shows that Sheldon isn't completely unaware of what the others think of him and that he can be stung by what they say about him.  He is still oblivious in some ways, but he does have feelings.

And I love Leonard in his flabbergasted mode. :)

 

I'm glad they showed the actual basket-weaving scene.  Sounds very funny.

 

Loved the Raj/Howard/Bernie banter.  The line about "like he's wearing a jet-pack" had me cracking up!  And the conversation about the temple/Temple of Doom, etc., sounds very funny.

 

The only downside is having to wait essentially a MONTH to see it.

 

At least, A) we have a new ep tomorrow(!) and B ) I'll be busy with concerts and Christmas and family for the next 3 weeks.


I don't mind many Sheldon plots or plots around him. It's the constant and unnecessary insertion of him where he doesn't belong, just for the laughs. Sometimes it seems like they can't do funny scenes without him, which is not true, IMO.

 

Did you want some lovey-dovey scene for Leonard and Penny at the end?  But if they make some kind of joke in such a scene (because the show is a comedy and pretty much always ends with a funny zinger in the tag), then there's griping about that approach as well, whether or not it includes Sheldon.

 

Of course he "doesn't belong" in Penny's apartment on that night.  But that's the twist and the punchline.

 

Maybe they can do funny scenes without him, but in a case like this, where the WHOLE POINT is about him trying to compromise and be okay with Leonard spending one night a week with Penny, then having him be unable, or inviting himself along, so that he's still with Leonard in some fashion, underscores the point.

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I don't mind many Sheldon plots or plots around him. It's the constant and unnecessary insertion of him where he doesn't belong, just for the laughs. Sometimes it seems like they can't do funny scenes without him, which is not true, IMO.

The living arrangement talk to me is should just be a Leonard/Penny conversation. Someone in the other thread mentioned when Leonard went to the North Sea and that Sheldon survived that for 3-4 months. Another comparison with that episode was when Sheldon was at the airport with Lenny. How is that any different than Sheldon sleeping on Penny's couch? To me in either scenario Sheldon didn't belong. I'm willing to wait to see this episode but IMO the airport scene was not funny.
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Sorry accidently deleted my ealiar post while editing.

When I started watching the show in S1, it wasn't for Sheldon and it wasn't so sheldon centric as it is now. The writers are letting down a lot of fans who watch the show for other characters be it lenny,shamy or penny. Or even the other characters. The writers need to go back to their roots and realise that the majority of fans do not watch bbt because of Sheldon.

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Actually the rating for S8 is a bit down compare to S7. I wonder why that is.

If they carry on with this trend, I could see it going down further.

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The show is very sheldon centered. Every wk is how wil this affect sheldon and what will sheldon do. Or how will sheldon handle this.

Dont get me wrong i LOVE sheldon but i also love cast eps when They do them and when all gets fair share but alot of the eps are sheldon centered. Im ok w that. Some of the lenny stuff i agree sheldon needs to butt out. The airport scene. Sheldon was not needed.

Sheldon has been away from leonard alot.

When leonard and penny go away on wknds, leonard has been at pennys at night when sheldon barged in. I could have seen 2 nights a wk as a compromise and more believable but 1 night. No way.

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Did you want some lovey-dovey scene for Leonard and Penny at the end?  But if they make some kind of joke in such a scene (because the show is a comedy and pretty much always ends with a funny zinger in the tag), then there's griping about that approach as well, whether or not it includes Sheldon.

 

Of course he "doesn't belong" in Penny's apartment on that night.  But that's the twist and the punchline.

 

Maybe they can do funny scenes without him, but in a case like this, where the WHOLE POINT is about him trying to compromise and be okay with Leonard spending one night a week with Penny, then having him be unable, or inviting himself along, so that he's still with Leonard in some fashion, underscores the point.

 

I wasn't talking about this particular scene. But yeah, I wouldn't mind? Trina said, the first two takes had them going to bed with a quick peck on the lips, while Penny says something about being engaged now (I can't remember exactly) - at this point it switched to Sheldon for his punchline. I can't understand how this would be any different? Sweet, but still funny! But no, they had to change it. Why?

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Did you want some lovey-dovey scene for Leonard and Penny at the end?  But if they make some kind of joke in such a scene (because the show is a comedy and pretty much always ends with a funny zinger in the tag), then there's griping about that approach as well, whether or not it includes Sheldon.

 

Of course he "doesn't belong" in Penny's apartment on that night.  But that's the twist and the punchline.

 

Maybe they can do funny scenes without him, but in a case like this, where the WHOLE POINT is about him trying to compromise and be okay with Leonard spending one night a week with Penny, then having him be unable, or inviting himself along, so that he's still with Leonard in some fashion, underscores the point.

But his actual presence in the apartment in the tag wasn't necessary. Him being on the couch is very predictable in Season 8. If they "interrupted" Shamy scenes like they do Lenny scenes (in a funny way of course) I think some of us wouldn't comment as much about Sheldon's interruptions. But I would be willing to bet some would be complaining if that happened.
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But his actual presence in the apartment in the tag wasn't necessary. Him being on the couch is very predictable in Season 8. If they "interrupted" Shamy scenes like they do Lenny scenes (in a funny way of course) I think some of us wouldn't comment as much about Sheldon's interruptions. But I would be willing to bet some would be complaining if that happened.

 

What would you have rather seen that would bring the joke full circle? I am honestly curious.

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But his actual presence in the apartment in the tag wasn't necessary. Him being on the couch is very predictable in Season 8. If they "interrupted" Shamy scenes like they do Lenny scenes (in a funny way of course) I think some of us wouldn't comment as much about Sheldon's interruptions. But I would be willing to bet some would be complaining if that happened.

 

It was necessary to hit the punchline--his idea of compromise isn't compromise, he's willing to "let go" of Leonard, without really letting go, etc.

 

They didn't interrupt the scene.  The scene was essentially over.  They weren't going to linger on them any longer--doing what? Getting in bed (exciting!), lying down (exciting!), going to sleep (exciting!) having sex (not going to happen in prime time)?

 

If he'd walked in on them about to do it, yeah, that would be interrupting.  It's very much like Sheldon's line in the (dreaded) Penny/Raj scene.  They clink their glasses and the scene is essentially over, but the punchline is Sheldon telling them to stop that infernal clinking, and that the answer was elephant.

 

It's the same thing here.  The scene basically ends with them talking about getting to spend the night together, and then there's a punchline from Sheldon to underscore the previous conversation.

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What would you have rather seen that would bring the joke full circle? I am honestly curious.

Sheldon's ILY interrupted. Someone disrupting the Shamy kiss on the train.

It was necessary to hit the punchline--his idea of compromise isn't compromise, he's willing to "let go" of Leonard, without really letting go, etc.

 

They didn't interrupt the scene.  The scene was essentially over.  They weren't going to linger on them any longer--doing what? Getting in bed (exciting!), lying down (exciting!), going to sleep (exciting!) having sex (not going to happen in prime time)?

Sheldon in the way again (exciting)
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Sheldon's ILY interrupted. Someone disrupting the Shamy kiss on the train.Sheldon in the way again (exciting)

Oh alright, so I see we are going with mature.

He wasn't interrupting anything. They weren't going to show anything, just like Phanta said.

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