S8 Discussion Thread

[Jiab]

Thank you so much batman and Dana 

Edited December 17, 2014 by Jiab

[bigbangsheldon]

 And then the last one was "One time while you were sleeping Amy took off her........", then Sheldon takes off the headphones and Leonard says "you are the best roommate ever". S

 

So many questions about this right now..... never any answers.

[3ku11]

So many questions about this right now..... never any answers.

 

Amy took off what while Sheldon was sleeping, kinda need context on that one haha. Damn these characters must be dirty off screen. 

[denajeanx]

It seems like Sheldon's going backwards again. The last taping he was sleeping on the couch. This one Lenny had to put him to bed. Haven't heard Soft Kitty in a while. I'm sure I'll enjoy it but I'm guessing some others won't.  Things not to appear to be going peachy for Shamy and Ramily. I rather see Lenny kissing but I think I can handle Emily kissing Raj. I'd like to see Raj explain the dog hair.

 

Not peachy? I think everything is fine in Shamy land.

 

Amy kicked him out because he was acting like a lunatic while Lenny coddled his behavior. If we go back to the first episode of S8, I believe this is the very reason why Sheldon cares so much about what Amy thinks of him and his accomplishments - when he is in a sane state of mind, of course. He thinks Leonard holds him to a certain standard and just does whatever Sheldon wants him to, which is mostly true. He knows he can get away with it around Lenny, but he's learning that Amy is not going to put up with that crap.

 

The one think lacking in Shamy's relationship, up until this season, was that they were on different levels in the relationship. Sheldon thought he had the upperhand but that is no longer the case. They are equal and their relationship is stronger than it ever has been.

 

I know you feel the need to lash out but come up with something logical, at least.

Edited December 17, 2014 by denajeanx

[3ku11]

Well Leonard did tell Sheldon he well be moving out at some point. So I don't think he holds him to a certain standard enough to put his life on hold. Leonard has stood up for him self and put Sheldon in his place plenty of times. I think Sheldon see's Amy as his equal, so theirs a level of respect their. I always like it when sassy Amy returns and tell's Sheldon to put it where the sun don't shine haha, its always good when Sheldon is taken down a few pegs, it gives him some humility.  

[denajeanx]

Well Leonard did tell Sheldon he well be moving out at some point. So I don't think he holds him to a certain standard enough to put his life on hold. Leonard has stood up for him self and put Sheldon in his place plenty of times. I think Sheldon see's Amy as his equal, so theirs a level of respect their. I always like it when sassy Amy returns and tell's Sheldon to put it where the sun don't shine haha, its always good when Sheldon is taken down a few pegs, it gives him some humility.  

 

 I agree about Amy. I love seeing her put her foot down and tell him how things are going to go. He needs that sometimes when he is out of control and Amy has been the one to do that, as of lately.

 

I believe he does view her as his equal. I don't believe that he thinks the same of Leonard.

Edited December 17, 2014 by denajeanx

[kazzie]

Thanks Dana and Batman x

[phantagrae]

I don't think that there are any true "trends" going on here.  I think that the characters all have moments of strength and weakness, good behavior, bad behavior, if you will.

 

And Sheldon is nothing if not obsessive, so it's understandable that if he thinks something is working well for him, he'll keep at it to the point of annoying everyone around him.  I think that Amy getting frustrated with him working on date night and ignoring her and the date itself is understandable and not really about real anger or whatever.  Sheldon challenges her and she calls his bluff.

But the thing about Leonard Penny putting him to bed is simply a matter of them taking care of him as a friend.  That Soft Kitty puts him to sleep is simply a trick they know to use because it works.  It's like Howard giving his mother valium, or Bernie crushing up a benadryl in Howard's ice cream that one time.

 

As for the parent/child thing, we know that they always use exaggerated analogy like that because it's funny.  Whatever it is they're doing, it's funnier if the dialog makes it look like a parental thing.  It's not that they actually consider him their child, etc.

 

Anyway, it all sounds very funny to me.

[3ku11]

Look if the day comes when Penny and Leonard take Sheldon to disneyland. Then we well know Sheldon has regressed alot, and they are mothering him haha. I think that was the extent of it. I agree with Phant this is just one hand a running gag of the series. The writers do it because it is funny, it is a comedy after all. It has always been funny when Penny sang Soft Kitty to Sheldon, they have to maintain some of Sheldon's mannerisims, to keep him unique and not change completely. 

[SRAM]

So a guest/recurring character gets a kiss with one of the main characters in her contract. But Kaley a mainstay of the show hasen't kissed the main character of the show all season lol. I kinda get it though Emily and Raj are a new couple. Lenny have been the mainstay romantic couple since Season 2. So their is not much you can do with Lenny presently storyline wise, espeically with dragging out the Wedding, which well be their next major storyline and plots.

Why would they kiss, she doesn't even want to go to Hawaii with him, mocking how he looks on the beach. Please someone tell me why they are engaged, they don't kiss, they don't sleep together and Leonard still spends more time with Sheldon than Penny.

[3ku11]

Why would they kiss, she doesn't even want to go to Hawaii with him, mocking how he looks on the beach. Please someone tell me why they are engaged, they don't kiss, they don't sleep together and Leonard still spends more time with Sheldon than Penny.

 

Well arent you a negative nelly . Look some of you Lenny fans need to grasp the concept of OFFSCREEN. Just because Lenny are not kissing onscreen or sleeping, does not mean they are not off screen. The writers for what ever reason have decided to diminish it on screen. Anyone can say oh that prooves their they don't sleep together anymore. And I would say your thinking too much. Unless they suddenly break up, no one can justify they are NOT an engaged couple IMO.

Edited December 17, 2014 by 3ku11

[SRAM]

Well arent you a negative nelly

Don't like the way they are writing Penny this season, she doesn't seem like a happily engaged person to me. If I just started watching this show, and she didn't have a ring on, I would say they are just dating and that she is not completely in to him. She was much more in to him in season 6.

[3ku11]

Don't like the way they are writing Penny this season, she doesn't seem like a happily engaged person to me. If I just started watching this show, and she didn't have a ring on, I would say they are just dating and that she is not completely in to him. She was much more in to him in season 6.

 

Fair Enough. Although she looked pretty happy in Prom. 

Edited December 17, 2014 by 3ku11

[Chrismo]

Why would they kiss, she doesn't even want to go to Hawaii with him, mocking how he looks on the beach. Please someone tell me why they are engaged, they don't kiss, they don't sleep together and Leonard still spends more time with Sheldon than Penny.

Well arent you a negative nelly . Look some of you Lenny fans need to grasp the concept of OFFSCREEN. Just because Lenny are not kissing onscreen or sleeping, does not mean they are not off screen. The writers for what ever reason have decided to diminish it on screen. Anyone can say oh that prooves their they don't sleep together anymore. And I would say your thinking too much. Unless they suddenly break up, no one can justify they are NOT an engaged couple IMO.

i have to somewhat agree with 3k on this one. There is nothing funny if Penny says Leonard would be going to Hawaii. The guys have always been nerds. That's never going to change. Leonard wouldn't want to go to Hawaii unless it's fan fiction. Sheldon thought they were having sex in her apartment and Penny defended Leonard when Sheldon thought coitus was hard to have with Leonard. Leonard and Sheldon do spend more time together than anyone else. it's been that way forever.The episodes are only 20 minutes some things are going to be cut out.

[tallin]

I just think Leonard and Penny have just a little bit different dynamic now. For me they seems very much like "partners in crime" lately... taking mostly each others side,  independent, but not far from each other, doing mature decisions (mostly)... I'm enjoying this - it shows they are stable and they have solid ground for marriage. Why they aren't more physically affectionate I don't know, it seems like most of couples aren't (maybe except RajxCinnamon) , hard to say why, but even if I will be in minority here, I'm kind of glad they didn't use this kiss for them, they should have some of course but that build up to it ...  "Everyone (Amy-Sheldon-Leonard-Penny) is making baskets. Leonard tells Penny that he thought it would be really boring, but it's not too bad. On the first 2 takes, Penny says, that's what I said about you before we started dating and now look at us we're engaged." It felt odd to me... I think writers will do better.

[SRAM]

Well arent you a negative nelly . Look some of you Lenny fans need to grasp the concept of OFFSCREEN. Just because Lenny are not kissing onscreen or sleeping, does not mean they are not off screen. The writers for what ever reason have decided to diminish it on screen. Anyone can say oh that prooves their they don't sleep together anymore. And I would say your thinking too much. Unless they suddenly break up, no one can justify they are NOT an engaged couple IMO.

OFFSCREEN, Kaley goes home to her husband Ryan and Johnny may see Kelli, or are you one of those fans who think Leonard and Penny are real people?

[Nogravitasatall]

On the upside, if the chance arose, she'd still go regardless of how Leonard looked. And its nice that the possibility was brought up. These folks lives have been pretty small for elite professionals, really. They are not without resources. They should certainly be at more conferences, at least.. 

 

They need to monetarise something before they wrap. Laser patents await Leonard. Sheldon might write a textbook for Texas. LOL

[dana1010]

Thank you for writing the full report batman. Saves me the trouble with having to finish it.

 

Edit: Sorry I should have asked. Do you want me to finish my report? If people want me to do it then I will.

Edited December 18, 2014 by dana1010

[phantagrae]

I just think Leonard and Penny have just a little bit different dynamic now. For me they seems very much like "partners in crime" lately... taking mostly each others side,  independent, but not far from each other, doing mature decisions (mostly)... I'm enjoying this - it shows they are stable and they have solid ground for marriage. Why they aren't more physically affectionate I don't know, it seems like most of couples aren't (maybe except RajxCinnamon) , hard to say why, but even if I will be in minority here, I'm kind of glad they didn't use this kiss for them, they should have some of course but that build up to it ...  "Everyone (Amy-Sheldon-Leonard-Penny) is making baskets. Leonard tells Penny that he thought it would be really boring, but it's not too bad. On the first 2 takes, Penny says, that's what I said about you before we started dating and now look at us we're engaged." It felt odd to me... I think writers will do better.

 

I think that Penny is always going to joke about their unlikely pairing--the popular pretty girl and the nerdy asthmatic genius guy--but it doesn't mean that she's disparaging him.  He knows he's a nerd.  He's the king of nerds.  And he knows that she could probably have any guy she wanted, and she wanted him.

 

That's just the style of their banter, but it doesn't mean there's any trouble in their paradise.  In fact, the more secure they are, the more they can poke a little fun because they know that neither of them is going to take it to heart and run off, or worry what the other one thinks.

 

I remember that my friends and I used to kind of laugh at how some young couples in school felt they had to be glued to each other's side all the time, with their arms around each other to show everyone they were a couple, or to prove to each other they were a couple.  The confident, more mature couples could let go, even do their own things individually, and still know that they were a couple without having to "display" to everyone else.

 

I think that L/P are in that comfortable, relaxed, confident place now.

[3ku11]

OFFSCREEN, Kaley goes home to her husband Ryan and Johnny may see Kelli, or are you one of those fans who think Leonard and Penny are real people?

 

Your words not mine. I am just saying the writers suggest alot of things happen off screen. When did I ever say I think Leonard and Penny are real people? I am just trying to give you some perspective seeing your views are very heated as of late. 

Edited December 18, 2014 by 3ku11

[phantagrae]

OFFSCREEN, Kaley goes home to her husband Ryan and Johnny may see Kelli, or are you one of those fans who think Leonard and Penny are real people?

 

I think you're being deliberately obtuse.

 

Offscreen obviously means the inferred actions that take place for the CHARACTERS.

 

We don't see them sitting on the toilet.  Does that mean they never go to the bathroom?  No, it obviously happens OFFSCREEN.

 

Kaley going home to her husband happens OFFSTAGE, or OFFSET.

The term offscreen is generally used to describe action that takes place for the characters that we don't get to see in the course of a 20 minute episode.  That means things like dates, going to the bathroom, having sex, sleeping, driving to and from work, making breakfast, going to pick up their takeout.  All that stuff that is inferred in the story line by what we do see.

 

We see L/P going out the door on their way to a date night.  Since we don't see them while they're on the date, does it mean it didn't happen?

If we don't see Leonard driving to work, does it mean that he teleported there?  If we don't see him drive, did he not drive?

 

You know what people mean when they say "offscreen" and you know it's not because people think the characters are real people.

[SRAM]

Your words not mine. I am just saying the writers suggest alot of things happen off screen. When did I ever say I think Leonard and Penny are real people? I am just trying to give you some perspective seeing your views are very heated as of late.

Just my personal opinion, like everyone else's. Not pleased on how Penny is written this season, it is not going to stop me from watching the show or anything like that, but it does lower my enjoyment of the show. BTW OFFSCREEN to me means fanfiction.

[legacy99]

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[Chrismo]

Not peachy? I think everything is fine in Shamy land.

 

Amy kicked him out because he was acting like a lunatic while Lenny coddled his behavior. If we go back to the first episode of S8, I believe this is the very reason why Sheldon cares so much about what Amy thinks of him and his accomplishments - when he is in a sane state of mind, of course. He thinks Leonard holds him to a certain standard and just does whatever Sheldon wants him to, which is mostly true. He knows he can get away with it around Lenny, but he's learning that Amy is not going to put up with that crap.

 

The one think lacking in Shamy's relationship, up until this season, was that they were on different levels in the relationship. Sheldon thought he had the upperhand but that is no longer the case. They are equal and their relationship is stronger than it ever has been.

 

I know you feel the need to lash out but come up with something logical, at least.

Lenny can't win either. fans were upset that Lenny "abandoned " Sheldon at the train station. now there accused of coddling him. If Leonard "abandoned" Sheldon and moved in with Penny Amy would be over in a heartbeat. Amy may have won this one but Sheldon still had the upper hand. Who are you kidding?

[Tensor]

Well arent you a negative nelly . Look some of you Lenny fans need to grasp the concept of OFFSCREEN. Just because Lenny are not kissing onscreen or sleeping, does not mean they are not off screen.

Doesn't mean they are either. All that is being shown is a couple who are supposed to be engaged, that used to kiss each other and sleep together. They used to show examples of this, now they aren't. Leonard and Penny could enter the scene from the hallway that leads to Leonard's bedroom. The could show them talking about things in bed or they could show them kissing. For whatever reason the writers have chosen not to show that.

Some people are unhappy about this. If you happen to be happy with this, fine. But, please don't tell those who are unhappy that their reactions are ridiculous or that they need to grasp the concept of OFFSCREEN. There are some who dislike the way things are being shown and are sharing that.

 

The writers for what ever reason have decided to diminish it on screen.

What exactly do you believe that there is something wrong with people who are unhappy about this?