S8 Discussion Thread

[3ku11]

Doesn't mean they are either. All that is being shown is a couple who are supposed to be engaged, that used to kiss each other and sleep together. They used to show examples of this, now they aren't. Leonard and Penny could enter the scene from the hallway that leads to Leonard's bedroom. The could show them talking about things in bed or they could show them kissing. For whatever reason the writers have chosen not to show that.

Some people are unhappy about this. If you happen to be happy with this, fine. But, please don't tell those who are unhappy that their reactions are ridiculous or that they need to grasp the concept of OFFSCREEN. There are some who dislike the way things are being shown and are sharing that.

 

What exactly do you believe that there is something wrong with people who are unhappy about this?

 

I am sorry Tensor your taking what I am saying way out of context. I never said anyone was being riduclous, I said the overall reaction. I apologize if it came across I was telling people how to feel. But that was not my intention. I don't remember ever saying their is something wrong with people being unhappy about this. I just don't choose to beleive their is some internal issue going on here, and think their is some crisis. That is my point of view. 

[tallin]

I think that Penny is always going to joke about their unlikely pairing--the popular pretty girl and the nerdy asthmatic genius guy--but it doesn't mean that she's disparaging him.  He knows he's a nerd.  He's the king of nerds.  And he knows that she could probably have any guy she wanted, and she wanted him.

 

That's just the style of their banter, but it doesn't mean there's any trouble in their paradise.  In fact, the more secure they are, the more they can poke a little fun because they know that neither of them is going to take it to heart and run off, or worry what the other one thinks.

 

I remember that my friends and I used to kind of laugh at how some young couples in school felt they had to be glued to each other's side all the time, with their arms around each other to show everyone they were a couple, or to prove to each other they were a couple.  The confident, more mature couples could let go, even do their own things individually, and still know that they were a couple without having to "display" to everyone else.

 

I think that L/P are in that comfortable, relaxed, confident place now.

I never said she's disparaging him, or that there are trouble in the paradise ! My point is, that this line was for me just a way how to bring them to kiss, and for me, I just didn't find it that good set up. For example, prom scene on the roof was perfect build for kiss - I just felt it coming, and was very surprised when it didn't - it had the atmosphere . Like lime kiss - that feels like kiss is here to make a scene, not scene to make a kiss - and these are  moments here to remember, these I just enjoy more. This one felt for me like pushing it, and I think, even after eight years, there is still many ways to get them steamy kiss that I would be feeling like a third wheel watching. Mature couples are partly independent, as I said, but they are still passionate - even when it's in private. We have access to that - it's a tv show.  But these are just my preferences, that's all.

Like I said in first post they are stable, in good place, so I believe they have great plots ahead - I liked their interaction in latest report (telling Sheldon all the things they did to him... singing Soft Kitty together - very cute and funny)

Edited December 18, 2014 by tallin

[denajeanx]

Lenny can't win either. fans were upset that Lenny "abandoned " Sheldon at the train station. now there accused of coddling him. If Leonard "abandoned" Sheldon and moved in with Penny Amy would be over in a heartbeat. Amy may have won this one but Sheldon still had the upper hand. Who are you kidding?

Who said Lenny abandoned him? He was going no matter what anyone said. They did the right thing by letting him go. I'm pretty sure we can all agree on that.

Yeah, I highly doubt that Sheldon would choose to live with Penny over Amy. He can't stand Penny's habits, messiness, ect. Who are you kidding?

[Chrismo]

Who said Lenny abandoned him? He was going no matter what anyone said. They did the right thing by letting him go. I'm pretty sure we can all agree on that.

Yeah, I highly doubt that Sheldon would choose to live with Penny over Amy. He can't stand Penny's habits, messiness, ect. Who are you kidding?

but there were people upset that they abandoned him. if Sheldon didn't like Penny's habits and messiness why did he sleep in her bed back in season 2 and on her couch in the last taping.

[3ku11]

but there were people upset that they abandoned him. if Sheldon didn't like Penny's habits and messiness why did he sleep in her bed back in season 2 and on her couch in the last taping.

 

Sheldon has also hugged Penny a few times, seen her naked e.t.c. haha. So I don't think he minds her habits . 

[djsurrey]

Guess I am the only one wondering why Sheldon is talking about proton decay.

found this http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2010/nov/29/new-particle-links-dark-matter-with-missing-antimatter

 

As far as I know no one has detected proton decay yet.

[denajeanx]

but there were people upset that they abandoned him. if Sheldon didn't like Penny's habits and messiness why did he sleep in her bed back in season 2 and on her couch in the last taping.

Sleeping at someone's place and living with them are two completely separate things. You can't compare sleeping on your friend's couch to living with them.

What about the Penny specific section of the roommate agreement that contains everything he can't stand about her? Penny is a trainwreck when it comes to organization and basically all of Sheldon's cleanliness routines. If you think Shledon would actually tolerate living with Penny, you are delusional.

Sheldon needs to live by himself for a while when Leonard eventually moves across the hall.

[3ku11]

Sleeping at someone's place and living with them are two completely separate things. You can't compare sleeping on your friend's couch to living with them.

What about the Penny specific section of the roommate agreement that contains everything he can't stand about her? Penny is a trainwreck when it comes to organization and basically all of Sheldon's cleanliness routines. If you think Shledon would actually tolerate living with Penny, you are delusional.

Sheldon needs to live by himself for a while when Leonard eventually moves across the hall.

 

Actually post Season 6 Penny has been alot more tidy and clean, and organized. Alot more domesticated. In any case Sheldon is NOT living with Penny lol why would he be. Leonard well move in with Penny. Their is a case that Penny may move in with Leonard. As being an engaged couple, they need a bigger space. But at this stage moving into 4B makes practical sense. 

Edited December 18, 2014 by 3ku11

[Maddie]

I don't think Lenny abandoned Sheldon at all at the train station. Abandoning him would be if Sheldon begged them to take him home and they just left him there. Clearly, that's not what happened. Sheldon was gonna go no matter what.

 

Sheldon spent the night in S2 because he was locked out of his apartment. It was clearly not out of desire. And he seemed pretty unhappy about it even though he ended up being somewhat appreciative.

 

The last taping he was on the couch and Penny was in her bedroom with Leonard. They weren't even near each other.

 

At any rate, that was two incidents. A few incidents does not equate to living together no matter how you stretch it.

 

I think Penny and Sheldon tolerate each other and have an unlikely friendship. But let's get real, they could never live together. They'd drive each other nuts.

[3ku11]

I don't think Lenny abandoned Sheldon at all at the train station. Abandoning him would be if Sheldon begged them to take him home and they just left him there. Clearly, that's not what happened. Sheldon was gonna go no matter what.

 

Sheldon spent the night in S2 because he was locked out of his apartment. It was clearly not out of desire. And he seemed pretty unhappy about it even though he ended up being somewhat appreciative.

 

The last taping he was on the couch and Penny was in her bedroom with Leonard. They weren't even near each other.

 

At any rate, that was two incidents. A few incidents does not equate to living together no matter how you stretch it.

 

I think Penny and Sheldon tolerate each other and have an unlikely friendship. But let's get real, they could never live together. They'd drive each other nuts.

 

And some people ever shipped them as a couple my GOD. 

[denajeanx]

Actually post Season 6 Penny has been alot more tidy and clean, and organized. Alot more domesticated. In any case Sheldon is NOT living with Penny lol why would he be. Leonard well move in with Penny. Their is a case that Penny may move in with Leonard. As being an engaged couple, they need a bigger space. But at this stage moving into 4B makes practical sense.

Have you had a look at her kitchen? I mean, come on. Lol.

I think the writers are making it pretty clear that Leonard will move across the hall. And no, Penny and Sheldon would never live together. That would end in disaster after a matter of hours.

Edited December 18, 2014 by denajeanx

[Chrismo]

Sleeping at someone's place and living with them are two completely separate things. You can't compare sleeping on your friend's couch to living with them.

What about the Penny specific section of the roommate agreement that contains everything he can't stand about her? Penny is a trainwreck when it comes to organization and basically all of Sheldon's cleanliness routines. If you think Shledon would actually tolerate living with Penny, you are delusional.

Sheldon needs to live by himself for a while when Leonard eventually moves across the hall.

He slept in her bed.. if he had all these cleanliness routines he couldn't of handled one night there.

[Maddie]

Penny has matured some and has become somewhat neater. But those two people just live in two completely different stratospheres. It could never work.

[denajeanx]

He slept in her bed.. if he had all these cleanliness routines he couldn't of handled one night there.

This is like talking to a dolphin, or a wall.

He slept in her bed for one night because he was locked out. What is your point? As Maddie already clearly pointed out, they are polar opposites and could not stand to live with each other. Are you trying to use that as your case for them being able to live together? I think you need a better argument, mi amigo.

[Chrismo]

This is like talking to a dolphin, or a wall.

He slept in her bed for one night because he was locked out. What is your point? As Maddie already clearly pointed out, they are polar opposites and could not stand to live with each other. Are you trying to use that as your case for them being able to live together? I think you need a better argument, mi amigo.

i don't doubt they couldn't live together. but it's time to give it up that it is about her cleanliness. that's already been proven wrong.

[denajeanx]

i don't doubt they couldn't live together. but it's time to give it up that it is about her cleanliness. that's already been proven wrong.

There are aspects of her cleanliness that would absoultely not fly with Sheldon. Sleeping in her bed doesn't make that null and void. As I said before, have you seen her kitchen? It's a trainwreck. Sheldon would have none of that and would kick her out in a matter of seconds.

Just face it, they are two different people that will never live together.

[Chrismo]

There are aspects of her cleanliness that would absoultely not fly with Sheldon. Sleeping in her bed doesn't make that null and void. As I said before, have you seen her kitchen? It's a trainwreck. Sheldon would have none of that and would kick her out in a matter of seconds.

Just face it, they are two different people that will never live together.

he lasted more than a few seconds he lasted the night on her couch The couch is by the kitchen. His choice.

[denajeanx]

he lasted more than a few seconds he lasted the night on her couch The couch is by the kitchen. His choice.

At this point, I'm just going to assume you're kidding because you started out by saying they would live together, then said okay they wouldn't but not because of cleanliness, to the couch is by the kitchen.

It's like a spiral of stupid. Lol

Edited December 18, 2014 by denajeanx

[Jiab]

Is Chrismo secretly shipping Shenny? jkjk lol. 

[bhreg]

Thanks to Dana and Batman for the taping reports...sounds like a funny episode.  

(Armadillo Newton...ha, ha...must be some hallucinating going on in the writer's room!? ;-)  

 

Also sound like it was a fun taping, seems the cast and crew were in a party mood! 

[Chrismo]

Is Chrismo secretly shipping Shenny? jkjk lol.

i was really hoping for a threesome.

[3ku11]

i was really hoping for a threesome.

 

Leonard, Penny, and Sheldon. So everyone is happy   lol. Kiddin. 

[Tensor]

I am sorry Tensor your taking what I am saying way out of context. I never said anyone was being riduclous, I said the overall reaction.

If people are unhappy about something, voice that unhappiness, how is saying the reactions are ridiculous, not saying they are being ridiculous. You may not be saying anything about a specific individual, but by saying the overall reaction is ridiculous, is sounds as if you think those having those reactions, are ridiculous.

 

I apologize if it came across I was telling people how to feel. But that was not my intention.

How is telling them to "get over it", not telling them how to feel?

 

I don't remember ever saying their is something wrong with people being unhappy about this.

Well, how does calling the overall reactions ridiculous, or telling people to get over, or telling them they need to grasp the concept of offscreen make you sound as if you think they are happy with it?

 

I just don't choose to beleive their is some internal issue going on here, and think their is some crisis. That is my point of view.

And just because those people are unhappy with the way Lenny is portrayed does not mean people think there is a problem. If there was a problem, depicting them as they have done would be realistic. For two people who are supposedly in love and engage and looking forward to getting married, the depiction feels false to a lot of people.

If fully understand what the writers have to do, I grasp the concept of offscreen, offset, fan fiction etc quite easily, thank you. That does not mean I'm totally happy with how the couple is being portrayed. I do not have to get over it.

Tensor.

[denajeanx]

i was really hoping for a threesome.

#Shlennymovein2015

[3ku11]

If people are unhappy about something, voice that unhappiness, how is saying the reactions are ridiculous, not saying they are being ridiculous. You may not be saying anything about a specific individual, but by saying the overall reaction is ridiculous, is sounds as if you think those having those reactions, are ridiculous.

 

How is telling them to "get over it", not telling them how to feel?

 

Well, how does calling the overall reactions ridiculous, or telling people to get over, or telling them they need to grasp the concept of offscreen make you sound as if you think they are happy with it?

 

And just because those people are unhappy with the way Lenny is portrayed does not mean people think there is a problem. If there was a problem, depicting them as they have done would be realistic. For two people who are supposedly in love and engage and looking forward to getting married, the depiction feels false to a lot of people.

If fully understand what the writers have to do, I grasp the concept of offscreen, offset, fan fiction etc quite easily, thank you. That does not mean I'm totally happy with how the couple is being portrayed. I do not have to get over it.

Tensor.

 

I guess I am just going off the constant negativity in the Lenny Thread, maybe thats just me. I never told people to get over it. Besides why are you projecting your frustrations onto me. It was a passing comment. Everyones point of view seems to be moan moan moan. I guess I was just a little tired of seeing it, so I made that comment of being ridiclous. 

Edited December 18, 2014 by 3ku11