phantagrae Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 The pages and pages and long posts written about people's various interpretations is not an indication that things on TBBT are that clear cut? And I'm not talking about just things having to do with TR and other spoilers. Everything is open to interpretation... Not really. People like to say this, but it's not really true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Not really. People like to say this, but it's not really true.So maybe at times you're just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantagrae Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 So maybe at times you're just wrong. Maybe I am, but if I'm "wrong", then that means that there must be a "right", not some amorphous "anything goes", right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 The conversations are interesting above. What my experience has been when I was on many sets in the past is that often actors would bring out things that the writers had not considered and would often rewrite and change the reality and "truth" based on what they saw from the actors. So while Phanta has good points, Tensor and Hokie are also correct. It isn't as hard and set as Phanta describes, yet there is some basic elements that often remain in scripts because there was something that needed to be the "truth" that came out. But I have literally seen scripts take on a whole new story and direction and end result and even "truth" all because of what the director and actor may bring out and it introduces a whole new set of creativity the original writer may not have considered when writing the script. So there you have it. It isn't hard and fast and can be changed. I think Hokie is right about it relative to music as well. All you have to do is listen to the varying recordings of the same piece of music to tell you that the truth you get from that piece may vastly differ from the previous piece yet the original composer may feel both are great. So again not hard and fast. Not everything in the world is completely black or white. Lots and lots of colors, hues, shades, shadows and dimensions involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Hey, even black and white aren't. Go to a paint shop or check out a Pantone strip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantagrae Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Hey, even black and white aren't. Go to a paint shop or check out a Pantone strip. Paint is not truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Maybe I am, but if I'm "wrong", then that means that there must be a "right", not some amorphous "anything goes", right?maybe there is no "right" or "wrong" answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurrey Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I'm quite sure I have heard from one a youtube video of a writers panel at some comic-con (I think) that TBBT writers sit in a group in the writers room, drawing often from personal experience and come up with ideas for the show. They discus them and hammer out a script. I'd imagine the acceleration script started with one of the writers saying hay I read this article and it went from there. Bill has essentially claimed that the writers basically are a bunch of nerds and they draw from their interests and their lives (regardless of the fact they are not physicists -- they have someone to fill in the physics jargon). That is all TBBT is. There is no master plan. Yet, a lot of people are entertained. TBBT reflects the human experience. It does not really have an end game like LOTR or HP. It is much more a funny thing happened on the way to ____ today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTBigBangTheoryFan Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) I'm quite sure I have heard from one a youtube video of a writers panel at some comic-con (I think) that TBBT writers sit in a group in the writers room, drawing often from personal experience and come up with ideas for the show. They discus them and hammer out a script. I'd imagine the acceleration script started with one of the writers saying hay I read this article and it went from there. Bill has essentially claimed that the writers basically are a bunch of nerds and they draw from their interests and their lives (regardless of the fact they are not physicists -- they have someone to fill in the physics jargon). That is all TBBT is. There is no master plan. Yet, a lot of people are entertained. TBBT reflects the human experience. It does not really have an end game like LOTR or HP. It is much more a funny thing happened on the way to ____ today. Prady has said before They don't plan a season in advance like Friends or Cheers and many other shows Current and Old did. BBT works on a week by weeks basic when it comes to scripts and direction of the season for the show, they don't outline a whole season before they start filming. So when the next table read happens they don't (Not even the writers) know what going to happen in 4 Months or even a week. They do things differently which is okay Edited January 30, 2015 by MTBigBangTheoryFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Penny atoning for her past? Is there something specific I've missed? Not in a Western liberal democracy - but my question is something like "has the depiction of very demure behaviour that we currently see improved the ability of the show to increase its share in foreign markets". They have almost walked back to the Hays Code. Whether the show was an outlier in the the way it depicted L/P before or has just become more mainstream I cant say - but the fizz isnt quite there and everything on screen is there by intent. Sex sells is the truism - but not expliclity everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Just to stir up the pot, for the people like me, who can't let it go. The score is now, Bernadette and Howard have kissed, Emily and Raj have kissed, but the newly engaged previously most sexual couple in the show haven't kissed. I wouldn't be surprised if Sheldon and Amy kiss this season too. For anyone who suggested that they have stopped kissing for foreign markets, did you see Emily and Raj kissing tonight then make that gross hair remark afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxdoug Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 You should let it go, because it doesn't mean anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Of course we could keep a series total of how often we have seen the couples in bed together. I don't think Shamy fans are keeping track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boys3allc Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Of course we could keep a series total of how often we have seen the couples in bed together. I don't think Shamy fans are keeping track Yes we are, once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamymania Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 "It's only been three years and here we are in bed together." - Sheldon to Amy, 6.23 Love Spell Potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meka3000 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Just to stir up the pot, for the people like me, who can't let it go. The score is now, Bernadette and Howard have kissed, Emily and Raj have kissed, but the newly engaged previously most sexual couple in the show haven't kissed. I wouldn't be surprised if Sheldon and Amy kiss this season too. For anyone who suggested that they have stopped kissing for foreign markets, did you see Emily and Raj kissing tonight then make that gross hair remark afterwards. Well technically Lenny kind of did. It just didn't make the final product. I would think that would PROVE the TPTB aren't thinking about this as HARD as we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzsimmons Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 What the crap is going on in here? Are we talking about the Big Bang Theory or the semantics of objective truth? Listen. People have opinions, and then other people have other opinions. We can either share them with each other and look at those who disagree and say, "Huh, that's interesting, that's not how I see it, I see it like this." Or we can sit here and tell other people why they're wrong for feeling how they feel about the media they're consuming. I know which one sounds more appealing for me. You guys? Now, where do we stand on the Gang Bang Theory and its lead-in, Bang Buddies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boys3allc Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 What the crap is going on in here? Are we talking about the Big Bang Theory or the semantics of objective truth? Listen. People have opinions, and then other people have other opinions. We can either share them with each other and look at those who disagree and say, "Huh, that's interesting, that's not how I see it, I see it like this." Or we can sit here and tell other people why they're wrong for feeling how they feel about the media they're consuming. I know which one sounds more appealing for me. You guys? Now, where do we stand on the Gang Bang Theory and its lead-in, Bang Buddies? Truth spoken.. Now about this gang gang theory..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Snip... Now, where do we stand on the Gang Bang Theory and its lead-in, Bang Buddies? Have you coined the slogan for the next set of T-shirts? Lordy I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOOTBALLGIRL Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 As usual I am late to the party. I just read the taping report that has caused such an uproar. There were so many great discussions that I couldn't read them all. I consider myself a Shamy and a Lenny fan and I do not believe for one second that this episode put a nail in the coffin of SHENNY. I am ashamed to admit that I watch a lot of television and anytime you have an episode like this episode - it is used to plant a seed - to consider a possibility. I truly think that is what the writers are doing here. Why do this type of episode otherwise?? Something silly and insignificant like a 'love' test becomes the spark that sets us on a different course. The key is going to be #1- how the actors played this out and #2- if we see Penny/Sheldon 'connections' that we had not seen before. Someone said that at the taping it looked like they were about to kiss?? This is when I stopped reading the discussion. If that is true that would mean that Sheldon would have kissed Penny because he WANTED to. I am a Shamy fan and to this day I contend that Sheldon has NEVER kissed Amy because he wanted to. He kissed her on the train to prove a point. He kissed her on date night because he is contractually obligated to do so. Anytime you do that old "we are not in love" - you usually are or you are about to be. From Star Wars - Anakin and Padme - "I thought we decided we weren't going to fall in love". From Fraiser - Daphne and Niles - "I am engaged to be married and Niles is married - we can't be in love." There are others but these are the ones I remember because they so closely resemble that was said between Sheldon and Penny. I HATE everything about this!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurrey Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) Except these writers don't think ahead like that. Edited January 30, 2015 by djsurrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurrey Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) ...but the titles generally give one next to nothing to go on... Edited January 30, 2015 by djsurrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwasdestined Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) Can't compare Sheldon and Penny to Niles and Daphne. Niles was infatuated/obsessed/in love with Daphne from the beginning ( Niles was Leonard!!) and the entire last season and half of that show was about the final pairing of this almost destined from the start couple. Hardly the relationship Sheldon and Penny have had and nothing like the nothing in it experiment lasting one episode with a not even close to love resolution. Not a valid analogy. In the words of a certain ice princess/queen- Let it go! Edited January 30, 2015 by Itwasdestined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Mississippis Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Just to stir up the pot, for the people like me, who can't let it go. The score is now, Bernadette and Howard have kissed, Emily and Raj have kissed, but the newly engaged previously most sexual couple in the show haven't kissed. I wouldn't be surprised if Sheldon and Amy kiss this season too. For anyone who suggested that they have stopped kissing for foreign markets, did you see Emily and Raj kissing tonight then make that gross hair remark afterwards. Even Raj and Cinnamon have kissed -- off screen of course as evidenced by the mouthful of dog hair that Emily had noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Even Raj and Cinnamon have kissed -- off screen of course as evidenced by the mouthful of dog hair that Emily had noticed. If only you folks in the US had access the the original version of RAKE. There is the lawyer for Raj. Someone was too fond of their dog in that show, but were comically acquitted. But it didn't play in the foreign (US) market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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