phantagrae Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 The conversations are interesting above. What my experience has been when I was on many sets in the past is that often actors would bring out things that the writers had not considered and would often rewrite and change the reality and "truth" based on what they saw from the actors. So while Phanta has good points, Tensor and Hokie are also correct. It isn't as hard and set as Phanta describes, yet there is some basic elements that often remain in scripts because there was something that needed to be the "truth" that came out. But I have literally seen scripts take on a whole new story and direction and end result and even "truth" all because of what the director and actor may bring out and it introduces a whole new set of creativity the original writer may not have considered when writing the script. So there you have it. It isn't hard and fast and can be changed. I think Hokie is right about it relative to music as well. All you have to do is listen to the varying recordings of the same piece of music to tell you that the truth you get from that piece may vastly differ from the previous piece yet the original composer may feel both are great. So again not hard and fast. Not everything in the world is completely black or white. Lots and lots of colors, hues, shades, shadows and dimensions involved. Actually this proves the pint of the writers having a "truth" they're working toward. Why would they write and re-write a scene or a line in order to improve it if they weren't trying to get it to say what they want. Whether it's a funny line to get a bigger laugh or simply improving a line with a different word, the point is to get specifically what they want. Why chose this word over that one? Why change a line? To find the best way to say what they want too say--the truth of the scene or episode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mislav Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Change the subject please! Let's just agree that writers have their own way of seeing things that they write and that all of us can sometimes interpert that in a right way (or close to that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmp Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Has anybody else noticed that a lot of the story ideas this season are transparently because the writers read some scientific (or pop scientific) study? A scale measures relationship compatibility, a study says anxiety can help productivity, a set of behaviors can make people fall in love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Loyal to SPQR and Shamy Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Yes, they need to write about something! I'm looking forward to troll, because I think it will be super funny Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earnie Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Since it appears the show is not having a Valentines Day episode this year I got a question of how Leonard and Penny would spend Valentines day this year. What if they went and saw the movie 50 Shades of Grey what would they think of it. If you are not a Lenny fan insert you favorite show couple and discuss how they would react Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrycec03 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Since it appears the show is not having a Valentines Day episode this year I got a question of how Leonard and Penny would spend Valentines day this year. What if they went and saw the movie 50 Shades of Grey what would they think of it. If you are not a Lenny fan insert you favorite show couple and discuss how they would react Honestly the only couple I could see into S&M is Emily & Raj and that's cause all signs point to her being into that kind of thing....not his idea all hers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earnie Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I don't know remember Leonard and Penny had handcuffs in the Tardis at Stuart's party and Sheldon has spanked Amy of course he was clueless as to the naughty nature of it. I agree Emily would be in to it with everything we know about her so far and I think Bernie would be the Dom over Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzsimmons Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Okay, I wasn't going to bring this up because I wanted it to be a fun surprise, but since it's come up in the topic... Penny has read 50 Shades, and Sheldon has accidentally read her copy of it. I believe his exact response was something along the lines of, "How many times can one woman's loins detonate?" #saidsheldontoamy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallin Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Okay, I wasn't going to bring this up because I wanted it to be a fun surprise, but since it's come up in the topic... Penny has read 50 Shades, and Sheldon has accidentally read her copy of it. I believe his exact response was something along the lines of, "How many times can one woman's loins detonate?" #saidsheldontoamy I believe then Amy propose to perform conjoint experiment? For sake of science of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Gotta dilemma next week during the tag. I want to see Lenny in bed but I'm going to have nightmares seeing Sheldon in the bathtub. I rather see the Shenny eye coitus than that.LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrycec03 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Okay, I wasn't going to bring this up because I wanted it to be a fun surprise, but since it's come up in the topic... Penny has read 50 Shades, and Sheldon has accidentally read her copy of it. I believe his exact response was something along the lines of, "How many times can one woman's loins detonate?" #saidsheldontoamy Oooh color me intrigued.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzsimmons Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Gotta dilemma next week during the tag. I want to see Lenny in bed but I'm going to have nightmares seeing Sheldon in the bathtub. I rather see the Shenny eye coitus than that.LOL Ew said no one ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boys3allc Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Okay, I wasn't going to bring this up because I wanted it to be a fun surprise, but since it's come up in the topic... Penny has read 50 Shades, and Sheldon has accidentally read her copy of it. I believe his exact response was something along the lines of, "How many times can one woman's loins detonate?" #saidsheldontoamy This is amaze balls (why did he not stop reading it when he discovered what it was? Pretty evident what type of book it is early on.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAteAButterfly Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Gotta dilemma next week during the tag. I want to see Lenny in bed but I'm going to have nightmares seeing Sheldon in the bathtub. I rather see the Shenny eye coitus than that.LOL Well I had nightmares seeing all the rest of the guys' flabby and/or scrawny mid sections, so it's only fair. At least this will be worth looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrycec03 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Well I had nightmares seeing all the rest of the guys' flabby and/or scrawny mid sections, so it's only fair. At least this will be worth looking at. Oh hell yea!!! Sorry but none of the other guys can compare to how built Sheldon looks in those bath scenes!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzsimmons Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 This is amaze balls (why did he not stop reading it when he discovered what it was? Pretty evident what type of book it is early on.) Penny offers if Sheldon wants to stop the experiment and he says, "You know once I start something, I have to finish," and she says, "Like when you accidentally started reading my copy of Fifty Shades of Grey?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitlovesjim Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Okay, I wasn't going to bring this up because I wanted it to be a fun surprise, but since it's come up in the topic... Penny has read 50 Shades, and Sheldon has accidentally read her copy of it. I believe his exact response was something along the lines of, "How many times can one woman's loins detonate?" #saidsheldontoamy Is this for.real? Sorry. Im quite losing my mind with so many topics.. :-):-) Sent from my GT-S5360 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meka3000 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Okay, I am going to suggest something: I think some of the sturm und drang (as phanta put it a while ago) from the Lennies and Shamies is related to the breaks between episodes, some of it is due to worries about stagnation of story-arcs, and some of it is an almost superstitious (this is not a criticism, or at least I'm criticising myself too) dread. Things are, on page and for the most part on screen, going well for our favoured couples. They're settled, they're happy, they're vocally in love. We might like them to be more affectionate towards one another, but so far as we can tell, all is well. It's quiet. Too quiet. I think we might (some of us) be waiting for the other shoe to drop. The show's going to go on until, presumably, CBS burns down to the ground. Something must happen, surely, to delay the 'endgame'? And so we point to the lack of physical affection on-screen (which, admittedly.....). We look at the Sheldon/Penny interaction and say 'But why now?!' (which, admittedly...). We scan the episodes for clues, for signs and portents. We read the entrails of Sheldon/Penny eye-contact (hey, while I'm mixing metaphors.....) And maybe all this is leading up to something cataclysmic, and maybe not. I personally think that we are giving the writers both too little credit, and too much. Why too little credit? Well, the writers have thrown up sources of conflict between the couples (especially Lenny) and had them tackle the conflict like mature, respectful adults. These conflicts include money, Leonard's insecurity about Penny's beauty, the couple's insecurity about their (perceived, not actual) lack of common ground... they're all real conflicts, but have been handled with love and understanding. Why too much credit? Well, I can imagine the writers raising a collective eyebrow at us and saying: a ) 'You think we need conflict to stall our couples? Bitches, please. We can sloooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissssssssssssssssssssss mother doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooownnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn without lifting a finger. We have Comic-Con! We have Gary-Con! We have scientific careers! We have Howard's PhD plans to pick up and ignore in a matter of moments! Bernie can find an arch-nemesis at work! Stuart can date Howard's cousin! Stuart can walk Cinammon! Raj can be jealous! You haven't seen wheel-spinning.' b ) 'But if we do decide we need conflict, we will pull it out of our collective arse so fast it'll make your head spin. One minute Shamy will be fine, the next Sheldon will stub a toe and break up with Amy. Or one minute Lenny will be fine, and the next minute Leonard will, like, put a red sock in with Penny's whites and the next thing you know Leonard will be storming back into 3A saying 'It's over.' We will go from 0 to 360 at a speed that would make Ferrari green with envy. Buildup? We don't need no stinkin' buildup. Development? Where we're going, we don't need development.' (I'm exaggerating.) (But not by much.) So basically, I don't really know what the writers have in store for the characters (if indeed they do), and there's likely no point worrying. Not that knowing that has ever stopped me, personally..... (Also, I'd like to point out that I include myself among the worry-warts and certainly the over-analysers, so everything I say about this community I promise I say with love. You may not want to grace any community I'm a part of, which is perfectly reasonable, of course....) If your really worried about either Lenny or Shemy; allow me to introduce the common sense fairy (okay that sounds to demeaning and it's not my intent, so bear with me here). Between seasons 6-7 while Leonard was away on a ship for 4 months, both Penny and Sheldon spent time in close proximity to each other (something Leonard requested of Penny mind you). If Penny can spend THAT MUCH TIME with Sheldon while not gaining ANYTHING that resembles romantic feelings for each other (while STILL retaining their romantic feelings for their respective partners mind you), why am I to believe that a measly experiment that lasts less than a day is going to create anything between them? I'm sure that Leonard and Amy know this as well. Not to mention this is all just a cover to keep Sheldon busy until his surprise birthday party if I recall. On another topic, am I the only one who doesn't really think much of Raj's girlfriend Emily? She doesn't seem to bring anything of substance to their relationship. A shame since I usually adore Laura Spencer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) On another topic, am I the only one who doesn't really think much of Raj's girlfriend Emily? She doesn't seem to bring anything of substance to their relationship. A shame since I usually adore Laura Spencer. I think part of the problem is that she's not on a lot andis only a small part of the story when she's on. Edited February 1, 2015 by Chrismo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I think part of the problem is that she's not on a lot andis only a small part of the story when she's on. Yeah, the character has murky hidden depths, but we know little of her, so there is nothing to look at to evaluate. Not enough data. But she stops Raj from looking too bad, as he once could of been perceived a slightly bottom-feeding sad loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Oh hell yea!!! Sorry but none of the other guys can compare to how built Sheldon looks in those bath scenes!! Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe other guys don't exactly set the bar high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzsimmons Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Is this for.real? Sorry. Im quite losing my mind with so many topics.. :-):-) Quite real! Sorry, I had completely forgotten it when I wrote the TR and by the time I remembered, I couldn't quite place where in the script it went so I was like, "Ah well, it'll be a surprise for everyone." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earnie Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I just thought I was starting a new topic about Lenny seeing 50 Shades of Grey not knowing it would be in a upcoming episode I say if Penny has read the book her and Leonard have to see the movie now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitlovesjim Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Quite real! Sorry, I had completely forgotten it when I wrote the TR and by the time I remembered, I couldn't quite place where in the script it went so I was like, "Ah well, it'll be a surprise for everyone." Did he read it out of curiosity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge-Apatow Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Okay, I wasn't going to bring this up because I wanted it to be a fun surprise, but since it's come up in the topic... Penny has read 50 Shades, and Sheldon has accidentally read her copy of it. I believe his exact response was something along the lines of, "How many times can one woman's loins detonate?" #saidsheldontoamy Oh Sheldon, I call BS. Accidentally? How does one accidentally read a book that has 400 pages of pure, unadulterated smut?? I'm sure by the 5th chapter he would be able to figure out what's up and put it down. Maybe this is part of Sheldon's research hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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