tallin Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) Here's my take on Sheldon/Penny... I'm watching this show since second half of season one so I was here way before Amy, or Lenny getting together, and still, the idea of these two together never crossed my mind till I join this forum in season 7. For me physical attractiveness never really mattered, for me to enjoy characters making out I need to see some spark between characters in this way, and for me, it just never was there. Yes, maybe I just doesn't have enough imagination, or I'm too strict in separating friendship chemistry from the romantic one, but I never saw from Sheldon or Penny a hit of sexual/romantic desire for each other. "They would look cute together" just isn't enough for me. I can believe Sheldon to allow himself to open this side of him after many years and absolute comfort and respect for someone else, and I can believe Penny to really fall in love and commit to person who opened her mind, developed deep understanding for her and showed her she can be more than just "dumb blonde," but it's not something that Penny and Sheldon could give each other. Both Sheldon and Penny are strong personalities who have their "ranking" of life priorities very much established, and with each other, there just isn't any compliance, or even enough respect for romantic relationship. If we also count in the fact that Sheldon couldn't care less about physical appearance or sex, while Penny consider sex as very important, we really don't have much to build on. If this would ever happen, writers would have to change both of their personalities in different characters (again, this characters don't like to change too much for someone else).I started to watch because of these characters, so no, for me it would be the day, I stopped watch. After all uniqueness of these characters was what draw me to the show, and watch characters to hook up because, "hey, he/she's hot" is just cheesy all over for me, and I never saw anyone to have an idea on how to do it in believable way, without changing character in someone else, even if we didn't have Leonard and Amy in the picture. Shamy and Lenny have background which works great for me. It's not anything against Shenny, it's just my look at this possibility, I like their friendship, but in romantic way? No, I just don't see it... Edited February 20, 2015 by tallin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denajeanx Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 how are my comments outlandish regarding the shamy relationship I did find that scene where Amy giving Sheldon a bath sad she has to write fan fictions about getting intimate with her boyfriend I...mean these are just my opinion not everyone is going to like it. That's your opinion if you find the shamy relationship great good for you I like the shenny relationship because I love their dynamic. That's fine if you feel that way. I think it's sad that Shenny shippers are never going to get what they want so they take it out on Amy. I mean that is just my opinion, not everyone is going to like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryrose10 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 That's fine if you feel that way. I think it's sad that Shenny shippers are never going to get what they want so they take it out on Amy. I mean that is just my opinion, not everyone is going to like it. Im not taking anything out on amy that is just how I see the amy character is at times I liked Amy in season 4 but her character has been changing too much and needs to be tone down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Pollard Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathy2611 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Unfreaking believable!! I go to Disney World for three days and you guys start arguing about the same shit!! Who's smarter? Sheldon or Leonard? Who does math better? How the writers are crapping on Leonard. Shamy vs. Shenny. Same shit, different day. And no where in all these arguments do I find one popcorn gif!!! WTF is up with that??!!! I can see I'm going to have to provide popcorn gifs myself. So somebody PM and tell me how to do gifs from my phone please. P.S. I missed you guys....arguments and all! [emoji12] Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLMAO...you were thinking of me, Martin! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryrose10 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 To be honest, I was agreeing with Chrismo that the Shenny wouldn't creep me out... If you read the whole conversation you would see that. That's ok if you ship Shenny, but when you say crap about Amy - one of the best characters on the show - it really makes us angry. You're acting like a troll because you're here just to mock Amy and bitch about Shamy, not to have a real conversation. If you actually look at my conversation with Chrismo you will see that I was agreeing with his statement about how Amy fantasty with Amelia and cooper was weird Im not here to mock amy and for you to say "oh im only here to mock amy is absurd" Im am allowed to have an opinion about Amy not everyone here is going to like it but its still my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Pollard Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 And no where in all these arguments do I find one popcorn gif!!! WTF is up with that??!!! Look at the post above yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallin Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Unfreaking believable!! I go to Disney World for three days and you guys start arguing about the same shit!! Who's smarter? Sheldon or Leonard? Who does math better? How the writers are crapping on Leonard. Shamy vs. Shenny. Same shit, different day. And no where in all these arguments do I find one popcorn gif!!! WTF is up with that??!!! I can see I'm going to have to provide popcorn gifs myself. So somebody PM and tell me how to do gifs from my phone please. P.S. I missed you guys....arguments and all! [emoji12] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk LMAO...you were thinking of me, Martin! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I went two thousands miles to U.K for three months, and nothing changed Sheldon would love this place! Hope you had fun in Disney world. I will try to provide enough popcorn for all of us. (sorry don't know how to do them on the phone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantagrae Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Im not taking anything out on amy that is just how I see the amy character is at times I liked Amy in season 4 but her character has been changing too much and needs to be tone down a bit. Changing too much? NEEDS to be toned down? According to you, maybe. I think the changes she has gone through from the time she was first introduced have proceeded very organically, as have the changes Sheldon has undergone. And the point is that they have changed for the better and for each other. Amy went through her kind of "pushy" phase, where she was always trying to turn Sheldon into some kind of romance hero, but she's actually taken a step back and now gives him room to be himself. As she told him in the Prom episode, although she's always hoping for that day to come, she's not pushing him and not expecting him to comply with any kind of social expectations. In giving him that freedom, and showing that she loves him, intimacy or no intimacy, he has been able to acknowledge his own love for her. He may still not be ready for sex, but they know they love each other. That doesn't exist between him and Penny. They love each other like siblings, but there's never been anything between them but air. They care about each other as friends, but it's pretty dang clear that Penny and Leonard love each other (ENGAGED!) and Sheldon and Amy love each other. Amy's fanfic fantasies are just that--fantasies. There's nothing wrong with daydreaming about what intimacy might be like with her boyfriend. Yeah, she doesn't have the real thing--yet--but she's not going to force him. And by the way, Penny doesn't even have fantasies about Sheldon, nor he about her. He never considered intimacy with Penny, but he's considering it with Amy. He never kissed Penny, but he kisses Amy. The way the characters are written, the story that's being told, tell us that Sheldon and Amy love each other, and they love each other for who they are and are comfortable with each other. And Penny and Leonard love each other, despite any differences in their backgrounds or their different perspectives. Speaking of fantasies about having sex, that seems to be the only way that Shenny fans can come up with scenarios between Sheldon and Penny, since that ain't ever gonna happen on the show. Fanfic sex, indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurrey Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I agree with you.. But if something happened to Leonard and Amy even I would want Penny and Sheldon to hook up. Even you. Is that supposed to mean something to us? Sheldon is "so not the guy" for Penny. Sheldon is absolutely uninterested in Penny. It could never happen. Why not just accept men and women can be just friends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryrose10 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Changing too much? NEEDS to be toned down? According to you, maybe. I think the changes she has gone through from the time she was first introduced have proceeded very organically, as have the changes Sheldon has undergone. And the point is that they have changed for the better and for each other. Amy went through her kind of "pushy" phase, where she was always trying to turn Sheldon into some kind of romance hero, but she's actually taken a step back and now gives him room to be himself. As she told him in the Prom episode, although she's always hoping for that day to come, she's not pushing him and not expecting him to comply with any kind of social expectations. In giving him that freedom, and showing that she loves him, intimacy or no intimacy, he has been able to acknowledge his own love for her. He may still not be ready for sex, but they know they love each other. That doesn't exist between him and Penny. They love each other like siblings, but there's never been anything between them but air. They care about each other as friends, but it's pretty dang clear that Penny and Leonard love each other (ENGAGED!) and Sheldon and Amy love each other. Amy's fanfic fantasies are just that--fantasies. There's nothing wrong with daydreaming about what intimacy might be like with her boyfriend. Yeah, she doesn't have the real thing--yet--but she's not going to force him. And by the way, Penny doesn't even have fantasies about Sheldon, nor he about her. He never considered intimacy with Penny, but he's considering it with Amy. He never kissed Penny, but he kisses Amy. The way the characters are written, the story that's being told, tell us that Sheldon and Amy love each other, and they love each other for who they are and are comfortable with each other. And Penny and Leonard love each other, despite any differences in their backgrounds or their different perspectives. Speaking of fantasies about having sex, that seems to be the only way that Shenny fans can come up with scenarios between Sheldon and Penny, since that ain't ever gonna happen on the show. Fanfic sex, indeed. Wow you can make your point without bringing down shenny we have different reasons why we ship people the way we do I ship shenny you clearly ship shamy good for you and yes I do think Amy needs to be toned down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantagrae Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Wow you can make your point without bringing down shenny we have different reasons why we ship people the way we do I ship shenny you clearly ship shamy good for you and yes I do think Amy needs to be toned down a bit. No, I think that I can make my point and point out the futility of shipping shenny in terms of what's going to happen on the show. Fanfiction is indeed the only place where any romantic shenny nonsense can take place. And what exactly would you "tone down" with Amy? She's not running around flailing, she's not doing anything to Sheldon apart from being supportive. Is it just that you don't want her to be Sheldon's girlfriend? She's been his girlfriend since S5 and they've been kissing regularly since S7 (and Sheldon started it...), so what exactly is she doing that needs to be toned down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowbagger Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 not sure about the protocol here, but this seems apposite: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I've hidden several posts. Calling another poster a troll is not allowed. Speak to the ideas, not the other posters. If you feel a post doesn't fall within the rules, report it and let either me or Tripper handle it, don't answer in kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryrose10 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 No, I think that I can make my point and point out the futility of shipping shenny in terms of what's going to happen on the show. Fanfiction is indeed the only place where any romantic shenny nonsense can take place. And what exactly would you "tone down" with Amy? She's not running around flailing, she's not doing anything to Sheldon apart from being supportive. Is it just that you don't want her to be Sheldon's girlfriend? She's been his girlfriend since S5 and they've been kissing regularly since S7 (and Sheldon started it...), so what exactly is she doing that needs to be toned down? If I said that about shamy I would get so much hate Amy does need to be toned down I don't like the way she being pushy towards Sheldon and judging by the latest taping report it seems like she doing just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelshamyfan Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Wow you can make your point without bringing down shenny we have different reasons why we ship people the way we do I ship shenny you clearly ship shamy good for you and yes I do think Amy needs to be toned down a bit. OK without getting into an argument, please say just why you love shenny, is it their friendship or do you want more than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryrose10 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 OK without getting into an argument, please say just why you love shenny, is it their friendship or do you want more than that? Im new to the Big bang theory fandom I just started watching it and watching past seasons Penny and Sheldon stood out to me the most I love the way they interact with each other I honestly thought that they were going to be an item soon but the writers clearly have a different vision then I do and I see more chemistry between Sheldon and Penny than there SO's the adhesive duck efficiency was my fave episode to date....I just miss their friendship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie99 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 If I said that about shamy I would get so much hate Amy does need to be toned down I don't like the way she being pushy towards Sheldon and judging by the latest taping report it seems like she doing just that. I said exactly the opposite on another thread a few days ago- the character of Amy has become rather stale, dull and boring in recent episodes. Whilst I do like Shamy as a couple, I'm disappointed with how Amy is being portrayed recently. It's as if the writers have taken the character this season and removed anything interesting about her. I liked Amy and Sheldon because they were a quirky couple; now they seem almost normal! However, there are certain members on this 'discussion thread' who believe that the show is perfect and are only here to defend the show against any form of criticism, constructive or otherwise. Whilst I disagree with your opinion on the Shenny/Shamy issue, I respect that different people want different things out of the show and that is why the show has such broad appeal and high ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryrose10 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I said exactly the opposite on another thread a few days ago- the character of Amy has become rather stale, dull and boring in recent episodes. Whilst I do like Shamy as a couple, I'm disappointed with how Amy is being portrayed recently. It's as if the writers have taken the character this season and removed anything interesting about her.I liked Amy and Sheldon because they were a quirky couple; now they seem almost normal! However, there are certain members on this 'discussion thread' who believe that the show is perfect and are only here to defend the show against any form of criticism, constructive or otherwise. Whilst I disagree with your opinion on the Shenny/Shamy issue, I respect that different people want different things out of the show and that is why the show has such broad appeal and high ratings. I agree with this part I loved Sheldon and Amy in season 4 now that changed Amy wanting more Sheldon being Sheldon it like she trying to change him into eventually giving her what she wants and I don't like that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 If you actually look at my conversation with Chrismo you will see that I was agreeing with his statement about how Amy fantasty with Amelia and cooper was weird Im not here to mock amy and for you to say "oh im only here to mock amy is absurd" Im am allowed to have an opinion about Amy not everyone here is going to like it but its still my opinion. The whole basis starting in season 4 of Shamy's relationship is it was a relationship of the mind. even this season they supposedly scored an 8.2 on a relationship test. Now we have Amy writing fan fiction with Sheldon being naked in the tub. I did say that it seemed weird to me. It's very inconsistent of how Amy started out in season 4 or even earlier this season. I saw no one in the last few pages mock Amy. I did see some things that tensor had to obviously remove. It seems that some on here can't take a difference in opinion and had to revert to name calling. in regards to Shenny I am a Lenny fan and it appears most of my fellow shippers haven't said much of anything about your Shenny comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTBigBangTheoryFan Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) And this is why I watch the Show for Entertainment and purely and for all the Characters equally. I like all of the couples for different reasons. I like the growth ot all of them This whole ship vs ship thing is getting stupid. Sorry. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited February 20, 2015 by MTBigBangTheoryFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryrose10 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 The whole basis starting in season 4 of Shamy's relationship is it was a relationship of the mind. even this season they supposedly scored an 8.2 on a relationship test. Now we have Amy writing fan fiction with Sheldon being naked in the tub. I did say that it seemed weird to me. It's very inconsistent of how Amy started out in season 4 or even earlier this season. I saw no one in the last few pages mock Amy. I did see some things that tensor had to obviously remove. It seems that some on here can't take a difference in opinion and had to revert to name calling. in regards to Shenny I am a Lenny fan and it appears most of my fellow shippers haven't said much of anything about your Shenny comments. I noticed that too it seems to be theme with certain shippers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 No, I think that I can make my point and point out the futility of shipping shenny in terms of what's going to happen on the show. Fanfiction is indeed the only place where any romantic shenny nonsense can take place.it's the only place that you will read Shamy having coitus too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denajeanx Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 it's the only place that you will read Shamy having coitus too. Not for long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriparis80 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I love all of the couples on the show, Lenny Shamy, Howardette and Rajimely (however that's spelled). I also love the friendships like Shelnard, Shenny, Howard and Raj, PenAmEdette (i tried) and the boys. If people can see one character with another that's their choice. I may not agree or see what they see, but it's certainly their choice. Personally, if any of the pairings on the show broke up I would be pretty sad about it. I think each pairing suits each other and makes each other better. As a true Shamy and Lenny Shipper, I could never see them involved with anyone else other than who they are with now. Leonard absolutely adores and loves Penny and although she may not be as expressive about it as Leonard, she feels the same way. When they finally walk down the aisle and say their I dos, I know I'll be a pile of mush with tears flowing from my eyes. I don't know if Shamy will end up married, living together or even have coitus by the end of this show, but as long as they are together, I will be okay. I think the writers are doing a great job with all of the pairings and individual characters on the show. Sure, there are some little things I wish could changed but, as a whole the show is great. Slowly but surely each one will end up where they are destined to be at the end of this show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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