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And just out of curiosity, who deemed them 'aesthetically pleasing'? That would be a value judgment that requires an outside opinion (or is it just Sheldon 'blowing his own horn'?).

 

Well, he had dropped his pants a few times in the show. A few witnesses may need to be called upon for evidence.

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Thanks so much, Phanta! I hope you had a great experience.

 

Well, I liked Penny turning the tables on the knocking thing. I love all the knocking variations they manage to come up with. I don't know why they bothered with the Kevin Smith storyline if the writers were just going to drop it. That would have been an amazing experience--why would she give it up?

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Do you think she gave it up cause she felt older than the women in the audition? Or it's been so long since she auditioned she forgot how tedious it was and became more thankful for the job she has?  I like that she returned from the experience with gratitude for where she is currently.  I wonder if this is the end of the Penny as an actress story.

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Do you think she gave it up cause she felt older than the women in the audition? Or it's been so long since she auditioned she forgot how tedious it was and became more thankful for the job she has?  I like that she returned from the experience with gratitude for where she is currently.  I wonder if this is the end of the Penny as an actress story.

 

I have that feeling as well. Penny gets the acting itch again, thanks to Kevin Smith, and goes to an audition, but having been away from it for so long (relatively speaking), she's forgotten what it's really like. It cements her decision to leave acting, hence her expression of gratitude to Bernie for helping her get her current job. Which I don't mind at all, really; the "struggling actress who can't find decent work" schtick was getting old after seven years, and we've already seen that they can mine comedy out of her current job (such as the episode where they're at the company party and Bernie finds out that everyone thinks she's a mean, intimidating bully).

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I'm rather disappointed that they didn't pursue the Penny-flirts-with-acting thing. I don't know if I wanted her to return to the grind of auditions and so forth, but the whole 'chasing your dream' conundrum would have had a hell of a lot more bite if Penny had a stable, well-paying job that she was good at.

 

Plus, this seems to be all of a piece with this season's lack of follow-through on story ideas.

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this episode to me is really laying the groundwork for what I expect to come in the finale.

 

Something is going on with Penny.  I still am not sure if she is going to toy with the acting, but she has the bug.  She just doesn't seem happy

 

I think the reason Penny goes to Sheldon a lot for help is because they are similar. No holds bar if you will.  And just like Sheldon, Penny doesn't want to fail in front of Leonard.... Both Leonard & Amy put their partners on such high pedestals that there is internal pressure put on Sheldon & Penny.   I don't blame them for this, but once you even things out those pressures leave and you can be more open & honest.

 

Now for the bigger Alpha male plot...this is a long time coming.  And I appreciated how they used the similarities of Howard/Raj to drive home this lingering issue with Sheldon/Leonard.  In clean room Howard even pointed out how Leonard & him have drifted...and that episode was tense between the two of them.   Then throw in the fact that Sheldon has been the alpha towards Leonard from day one.  I personally think Leonard is a pressure cooker ready to burst.  He really has never been truly appreciated by his loved ones (his mother, fiancée & best friend).   Time for him to step up and let them have it and stick up for himself.  I desperately want Leonard to have his moment (and all of this translates to him moving out eventually).  But again with the slow growing Shamy & the sleepover in fort, Sheldon might be getting ok with the fact that Leonard is leaving.  And this coupled with the tension from the paper situation. 

 

You know we've seen "growth" from most of the characters...and Leonard's "growth" was more just social awareness because from day one he was the everyday Joe...BUT he still needs to learn to stand-up for himself and stop always being there for others.  We've really NEVER seen these important people be there for him. 

 

Not saying Penny doesn't love Leonard, but I still don't feel like she has ever really opened herself up to him.  We see her going to everyone else for advice/help.  And he is so desperate to live with her (frustrated to a degree) we do not see the same feelings from Penny.  She is perfectly ok waiting for Sheldon to go along with it.  (which I think is almost a front...the longer Sheldon stalls the longer Penny has to really prepare for the next step)

 

So my gut says that the finale will deal with

1. Sheldon & Leonard.....maybe a blowout....but something is gonna snap here with Leonard (and its justified)

2. Penny (and Leonard & her career)....she appears not happy to me...hasn't all season.  Even she feels they may be old & boring. She isn't ready for all of this.  What this means for her career & Leonard no idea (not a breakup of course but something is brewing here I feel it)

3. eventual living arrangement discussions (not sure if anything will really occur by the finale but depending on the above #1 & #2, both deeply impact #3)

 

Ultimately all this drama/angst will work out better for Lenny in the long run. 

 

JMO

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I agree with the Sheldon and Leonard thing, I think there is something going to be done about the living situation. I just hope it isn't so major it ruins their friendship. Leonard has already told him some of the things that have been brewing for a long time in Space Probe but I know there is more.

I think Penny is happy she just doesn't realize it yet. She still is trying to grow up. She was so young when she went to LA on her own to pursue acting and now that she is aware it probably isn't going to happen and has found something she is good at she just has to realize it is for the best. It may take a while for her to come to this realization and she may not be completely 100% happy her dream didn't become reality but in the end I think she will figure out that she does have a great life with great friends and a wonderful fiancé.

 

I definitely do not see a Lenny break up. That would be too much....I couldn't take it. I hope no one breaks up at all. And honestly I hope no one leaves for the summer either.

 

But either way I agree something big is coming.

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