meka3000 Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) what ridiculous argument is this?? they killed prof proton off ?? is the actor playing him dead....no... All I said was that it was their choice whether to kill the character off or not.....and they went ahead with it... You didn't answer my question. Do you think they would've killed off her character if her actress were still alive today? An occasional guest star is different than a reoccurring character. But they have lost momentum. So the BUILDUP will have to start over. If it comes. And it will be as delayed as possible. (And i think stories in serialised TV happen all through the run of the show. A great finish is just 21 minutes out around 50,000 of them. TBBT not a feature film and it's not a novel. The end will tie things up but it's not what the show is aiming for. Ideally they want to keep milking the cash cow.. That's why we have spin-offs.) How will the buildup have to start over? They don't have to struggle with saying I love you again, or get engaged all over again. Their relationship has simply been put on the backburner, but nothing substantial has been lost in terms of story. Edited March 28, 2015 by meka3000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Pollard Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 I was tempted to ask Tripper if he could install a "bitching and moaning" filter on the forum for users to enable if they so choose, but then I realized that I'd never see anyone's messages ever again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie99 Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 I was tempted to ask Tripper if he could install a "bitching and moaning" filter on the forum for users to enable if they so choose, but then I realized that I'd never see anyone's messages ever again. I would quite like a 'diehard superfans who jump to the defence of the show no matter what because it can do no wrong' filter to be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Pollard Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 I would quite like a 'diehard superfans who jump to the defence of the show no matter what because it can do no wrong' filter to be honest. It's a lot easier, and much less stressful, to be positive than to be negative. I'm here to enjoy the show, flaws and all. Why are you here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etienne Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 I was tempted to ask Tripper if he could install a "bitching and moaning" filter on the forum for users to enable if they so choose, but then I realized that I'd never see anyone's messages ever again. Doesn't that mean you wouldn't have seen your own post? Bitching and moaning about bitching and moan is equivalent to jibber jabbering about jibber jabber. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie99 Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 It's a lot easier, and much less stressful, to be positive than to be negative. I'm here to enjoy the show, flaws and all. Why are you here? I am obviously here because I like the show, but I also enjoy discussing both the good things and the bad things about the show with other viewers. Positivity is good but in my opinion the show is not perfect and I enjoy debating with other users why that is and how the show can be improved. We all want different things out of TBBT- I just want a good laugh, whereas others want something more. When the show succeeds in making me laugh, I praise it. When the show fails to make me laugh, I have every right to criticise it, suggest why it didn't make me laugh, suggest improvements, and then debate with other users. What I do not enjoy is arguing with diehard fans who believe that the show can do no wrong and jump to the defence of the show no matter what, because this is futile and is not true discussion- just one person saying something they don't like about the show and another person automatically leaping to it's defence because it is criticism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaffeineBuzz Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) I think Tripper should find a way so that anytime you enter this thread you get handed a small bag of popcorn Edited March 28, 2015 by CaffeineBuzz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmp Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 hey, we get a taping next week and a new episode. That should be fun, huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 It's a lot easier, and much less stressful, to be positive than to be negative. I'm here to enjoy the show, flaws and all. Why are you here? I know you were not speaking to me but I would like to answer. I'm here to discuss the show - warts and all. And I think that the reason why Tripper set up this wonderful forum was to be able to express both positive and negatives without recrimination. I will say it again. Just because I don't like or care for something in the show does not mean I do not enjoy the show - flaws and all. Including Sheldon (j/k) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 I was not talking ab. ...snip... front and center. In other words you can't quanify it for me. Also telling is that you didn't even bother to refute the specific numbers I gave, except to answer, again, with nothing specific. I was tempted to ask Tripper if he could install a "bitching and moaning" filter on the forum for users to enable if they so choose, but then I realized that I'd never see anyone's messages ever again. Sort of like a sarcasm filter for yours? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantagrae Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 hey, we get a taping next week and a new episode. That should be fun, huh? It SHOULD be...but I'm sure it'll cause another round of THE SKY IS FALLNG!!!! from someone or another. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 what ridiculous argument is this??they killed prof proton off ?? is the actor playing him dead....no...All I said was that it was their choice whether to kill the character off or not.....and they went ahead with it... Actually, it was the actor who originally made the choice to be on three times. Bob Newhart agreed to be on the show, but wanted three episodes because he didn't want it to be a one shot. The reasoning behind killing him off was to be able to bring him back as a mentor, in spirit form, for Sheldon( which the did as part of the episode when they killed him). But in Howard's mother's case, the killed the character to honor the Carol Ann Susi, because she actually did die. But I think you're moving the goal posts now. It's part of his modus operandi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie99 Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 It does seem that Leonard is being used more as a device to set up plots or play a foil to the other characters these days. Sheldon has certainly taken centre stage more than ever this season, which has pushed back Leonard almost to supporting cast now. With there being less and less scenes of the whole gang together, Leonard is no longer at the centre of the groups and many of the plots involving him in the show these days seem to happen almost around him rather than with him. It is a shame that this character is no longer as important to the show as he used to be but I think this has been done for the right reasons- Sheldon, Penny, Amy and Howard are all far more interesting characters to develop and their various quirks make them funnier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 It does seem that Leonard is being used more as a device to set up plots or play a foil to the other characters these days. Sheldon has certainly taken centre stage more than ever this season, which has pushed back Leonard almost to supporting cast now. With there being less and less scenes of the whole gang together, Leonard is no longer at the centre of the groups and many of the plots involving him in the show these days seem to happen almost around him rather than with him. It is a shame that this character is no longer as important to the show as he used to be but I think this has been done for the right reasons- Sheldon, Penny, Amy and Howard are all far more interesting characters to develop and their various quirks make them funnier.you make an interesting point about the whole gang being together. My wife said the same that she wished that the whole group was together at S/L apartment at the taping Tuesday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasu Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Actually, it was the actor who originally made the choice to be on three times.Bob Newhart agreed to be on the show, but wanted three episodes because he didn't want it to be a one shot.The reasoning behind killing him off was to be able to bring him back as a mentor, in spirit form, for Sheldon( which the did as part of the episode when they killed him). But in Howard's mother's case, the killed the character to honor the Carol Ann Susi, because she actually did die.Again what you wrote is what I said... the writers made that choice to include that in the storyline...Mr Leonard nimoy died recently but the writers did not include this in the storyline and gave a message about him at the end of episode....they could have easily done the same for howard's mother....but they did not make that choice....that's all I said...If god forbid something happened to the actress paying Leonard's mother...I hardly think the writers would include that in the storyline...because I don't think the writers like leonard's character that much to give him that sort of plot... It's part of his modus operandi.I did not move any goal posts(which you are pointing is my modus operandi...which is quite rude..given the fact that you are a moderator)...I have almost always included past few seasons while I was discussing about Leonard's character.... Edited March 28, 2015 by vasu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamour Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Mr Leonard nimoy died recently but the writers did not include this in the storyline and gave a message about him at the end of episode...Actually, they did, there was a vanity card with his picture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasu Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Actually, they did, there was a vanity card with his picture.vanity card with his picture is what I am referring to a message about him at the end of the episode...but they did not include that in the storyline...none of the characters mentioned the Late Mr nimoy.....I hope you get the difference.... Edited March 28, 2015 by vasu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie3457 Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 The character of Mrs. Wolowitz was a vital member of the cast. Along with Stuart Bloom the most regular of any recurring character. That Mr. Nimoy was mentioned often and appeared once in a voice-only capacity does not approach the status that Ms Susi's role attained. The placement of the vanity card was to pay respect to an actor who played a huge part in the Sci-Fi world, one that is close to the heart of the series. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelshamyfan Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 I wonder if his passing will be mentioned by the gang at some point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantagrae Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 I wonder if his passing will be mentioned by the gang at some point? I imagine it will eventually, especially if they talk about future Star Trek projects or something. I think that his passing came kind of in the middle of the stuff they've been doing about Mrs. Wolowitz and I think to go i to more stuff about someone passing away could be seen as either disrespectful of Carol Ann Susi/Mrs. W, or just too much dwelling on sadness or whatever. But I think that the appropriate mention will come in time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurrey Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 In other words you can't quanify it for me. Also telling is that you didn't even bother to refute the specific numbers I gave, except to answer, again, with nothing specific. I have no interest in taking hours to go though all the transcripts and compile numbers on how many episodes involved Leonards and Penny's various relationships. I just don't see that as a productive use of my time and I don't think anyone but you are interested in the numbers anyway. So no I can't be bothered with that. I simply stated a lot of time in the first 7 seasons was devoted to Penny's and Leonard's relationships. I don't really care what the actual numbers are. Frankly I think it is nice that Penny has more stories about something other than her relationships. I don't know the number of episodes about her career and I don't really care what the number is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 I have no interest in taking hours to go though all the transcripts and compile numbers on how many episodes involved Leonards and Penny's various relationships. I just don't see that as a productive use of my time and I don't think anyone but you are interested in the numbers anyway. So no I can't be bothered with that. I simply stated a lot of time in the first 7 seasons was devoted to Penny's and Leonard's relationships. I don't really care what the actual numbers are. Frankly I think it is nice that Penny has more stories about something other than her relationships. I don't know the number of episodes about her career and I don't really care what the number is. Yes, Lenny dominated the earlier seasons. But, even though we Shamies are basking in the light of all the goodness we've been given, Lenny has been completely sidelined. I think that there should be a balance between the ships, rather than having one be completely dominant of storylines. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Yes, Lenny dominated the earlier seasons. But, even though we Shamies are basking in the light of all the goodness we've been given, Lenny has been completely sidelined. I think that there should be a balance between the ships, rather than having one be completely dominant of storylines. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalki don't think that's true. There was no Shamy till season 4. It' easy to dominate when there is nothing else. Lenny wasn't together in season 4 and part of season 5. Since getting back together in season 5 through season 7 I think things were pretty equal for the two couples. This season things are obviously different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 i don't think that's true. There was no Shamy till season 4. It' easy to dominate when there is nothing else. Lenny wasn't together in season 4 and part of season 5. Since getting back together in season 5 through season 7 I think things were pretty equal for the two couples. This season things are obviously different. I don't think I made myself clear, my apologies for the misunderstanding. What I meant is that Lenny saw the most development in regards to all the ships. Don't get me wrong. I want more Lenny. As I said, sometimes I watch the gorilla dissolution to make sure the engagement is real, because there has literally been NOTHING for them to go on this season. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurrey Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 The other side to this from my point of view is to let the characters develop outside their significant relationship too. Like let Penny have a career. She does not need to be defined almost entirely by her romantic relationships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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