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I wonder if this is the blow up between Sheldon and Leonard.    The mothers are there for advice and comfort, and Marry is on Leonard side, and Beverly is on Sheldon's side.  That would set up the final episode where the fight continues with one of them says they are moving out at the end of 8.24.

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Luckily most of the people who don't like Leonard are not on this forum....Leonard is sweet most of the time, though like all the characters he can have his annoying moments

Maybe you are right but the writers were gonna throw in a bit of comedy into the mix, it can't all be drama

it seems to me that if people are happy to see Bev and some showed their joy in earlier posts on this very thread it appears to me you may be wrong.
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Having Bev around is interesting. Like having a colonoscopy. Slightly invasive, knocks you around for a bit, but ultimately you might be better off for the experience. Still, a girlfriend siccing a mother onto her son was diabolical. Luckily, access to the left and the right was later restored. I'd not be so readily forgiving, but I'm not Leonard.

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Well, I was wondering whether it would be a bonding session or a takedown. Not sure it would end in a shooting. But I think I want to be unspoiled for this one. People get married and have sex all the tine. This will be unique in the history of the show. NO PRESSURE, writers.

 

A takedown! I'm hoping for a Bev takedown (of sorts)! Bev wouldn't be Bev without the 'clinical-coldheartedness, gets pleasure and satisfaction from human experimentation' but I would love to see some warmth and appreciation extended from her towards Leonard. Not that I think it's going to go that way but I can hope!

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I'd just enjoy Creationist Mary taking on Clinical Beverly in a classic Jesus vs science smack down in front of their two boys just to see how they react!

But unless Season 8 is going to end with a whimper, I hope their appearances means something dramatically funny is afoot for their two sons and their girls. And who knows maybe they're hiding the big one from us - PENNYS MUM is on too! Three way mother manipulation! ( can we hear a "what about Amy's Mum?" From the crowd?)

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I wonder if this is the blow up between Sheldon and Leonard.    The mothers are there for advice and comfort, and Marry is on Leonard side, and Beverly is on Sheldon's side.  That would set up the final episode where the fight continues with one of them says they are moving out at the end of 8.24.

 

I really like the premise of this idea!

 

But I also want interactions with the moms and Amy/Penny in some sort of fashion.

 

And I'd like to see Bev/Mary show the opposite of how they are portrayed on the show (i.e. Bev some real heartfelt emotion to Leonard and Penny, Mary encouraging un-Christian-like things for Shamy,etc.)

 

I just want it all gah!!! Who knows how it will all play out.....all I know is this will be LOL funny!

 

Damn this episode has so much potential and hopefully they don's squander it. 

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I am eager to see Beverly and Mary in the same episode (assuming they have at least one scene together and are both in town), but it has nothing to do with hating Leonard, as one does not naturally follow the other, despite all the melodramatic statements that one must hate Leonard in order to want to see Beverly.

 

I also don't need to see Beverly "taken down" by anyone although I think it would be interesting for both mothers if they see their sons turning to each others mother.

 

I also don't see L/S having to have some big fight in order to change the living arrangements and I wonder why some people want to see it happen that way.  Though they've had their conflicts, there's nothing, even now, to show that their relationship is unraveling.  Though Leonard is spending more time with Penny, it's not because he's hiding from Sheldon and they're still buddies, even after their adventures at Skywalker.  Leonard was miffed at first, but in the end he was okay.

 

If they do decide, in ep 24, to have Leonard move out for good, I don't think it'll be about some big melodramatic fight.  It seems to me they've been building up Penny's acting opportunity possibly coming up.  She took the audition, so I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up getting the role offered to her, which could mean having to make a difficult choice.

 

But I don't think it's all about Leonard and Sheldon fighting and having to have their mothers referee for them.

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I suppose that's true. I was going to say it would be worse for Amy but Amy would just forgive him any way.

You just can't help but ruin the last remains of your shaky credibility with the most ridiculous of statements, can you?

there is a thread on here for those who only want to here positive things about Sheldon. Every Beverly appearance on the show has been bad for Leonard. It would be nice to chsnge it up for once.

I don't think that there is a thread for that, but I wouldn't be surprised if, by your logic (if you can call it like that), Shamy thread would classify as one. I guess we should also make a thread for people who only want to hear the worst and completely OOC things about Sheldon and the best possible things about the most perfect man of all, Leonard. Edited by Mislav
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but personally I don't consider Mayim "Beautiful"

 

I do. I think she's stunning, and I think Amy is also beautiful.

but I also don't think the wedding will happen this season, necessarily, simply for series logistical reasons.

 

I agree, but I think it'll be for story-line reasons.

 

Didn't Penny say something about 12 to 18 months, depending on her brother's good behavior?

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So let me just start by clarifying that I love Leonard but I also love Bev. She adds a great comedic presence and the show is after all a comedy. And Penny had no right to read Bev's book? Penny shouldn't have stuck his mother on Leonard? You guys obviously have no idea what it's like to have someone tell the world about your sexual dalliances. I'm a shamy and I still would have enjoyed seeing Amy rip Sheldon a new one for lying to Kripke.

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I like Beverly. She obviously isn't nice person but she's greatly written comedic character and Baranski's portray is simply outstanding. I don't think I need to approve of characters actions in order to enjoy them(characters). I don't agree with Mary forcing Sheldon to go to church or pray against his beliefs, and I like her too. (I know Beverly/Leonard issues are  worse, but still) .I'm looking forward to this episode because Mary and Beverly in the same one seems like golden ticket for one of the funniest eps, and that's what I'm going for while watching sitcom. I'm soo looking forward to it. 

 

To the Beverly/Sheldon kiss debate I think Molaro said it  counts, Prady said it didn't (Comic Con 2011), so, I guess anyone can be right...

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I like Beverly. She obviously isn't nice person but she's greatly written comedic character and Baranski's portray is simply outstanding. I don't think I need to approve of characters actions in order to enjoy them(characters). I don't agree with Mary forcing Sheldon to go to church or pray against his beliefs, and I like her too. (I know Beverly/Leonard issues are  worse, but still) .I'm looking forward to this episode because Mary and Beverly in the same one seems like golden ticket for one of the funniest eps, and that's what I'm going for while watching sitcom. I'm soo looking forward to it. 

 

To the Beverly/Sheldon kiss debate I think Molaro said it  counts, Prady said it didn't (Comic Con 2011), so, I guess anyone can be right...

i think Mary and Sheldon are accepting of the each others beliefs even if they don't agree with them. Mary has never forced Sheldon to do anything.. the one episode with Beverly and Penny drinking was funny but don't recall any others that weren't at all funny. Beverly has ripped on Leonard, Penny, Howard and Raj in previous visits. I would be fine if she moved on to someone else. Odds are though Mary and Bev will not even be in a scene together. Baranski will probably only be seen by video.
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I am shocked because I thought both ships would be amped up for Beverly & Mary in the same episode.  This could go in so many directions.  Plus, for the Beverly bashing on Leonard, if anything, Mary and Penny to a degree might nip that in the butt.

 

Personally my dream is for interaction with the girls to be sort of like some kind of situation where in the beginning Mary is of course closer to Penny as is Beverly to Amy...but as the meal/event goes on they both realize that they actually have more in common with whom their sons partnered (Beverly actually respects Penny's dominance over her son and she is no pushover, and isn't interested in being somebody's little wifey and wants to do well in her career and all----Beverly might even convince Penny that she should follow her acting dreams)....and then flip to Mary and Amy (and Mary realizing that this girl really does love her difficult son, she wants to make him happy whatever that means, she likes to cook & craft and is old fashioned in the sex ways)....Even fun back & fourth where each elder Mom defends their boy's girls would be cute.  But this is all in my fangirl heart.

 

and then follow with cute goodbyes with their sons....leaving the groundwork for the finale where Penny pursues acting and Sheldon considers a real solid future with Amy (both triggered by these Mom conversations).  And to the Shelnard point (which they also have been driving home) entering the mothers does put a degree of stress on both of them.

 

Ok...just all in my head of course.

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I agree but odds are that will never happen. And if it did it would be most would be saying poor Sheldon.

You just can't let it go, can you?

Even with imaginary scenarios, you can't let go of your warped version of the show.

Whatever happens between Sheldon and Amy, why shouldn't she forgive Sheldon for his transgressions? Do you think Penny shouldn't forgive Leonard for manipulating her with his supposed self-pity over his mom's book, or that he shouldn't forgive her for calling his mother about it? Or maybe Penny shouldn't forgive Leonard for not being supportive of her when she quit her job at the restaurant or whatever infraction either if them committed against the other?

If forgiveness is not allowed, maybe Leonard should not have forgiven Penny for sleeping with Raj?

As a married man I would think that you would understand how forgiveness works between two people who love each other.

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i think Mary and Sheldon are accepting of the each others beliefs even if they don't agree with them. Mary has never forced Sheldon to do anything.. the one episode with Beverly and Penny drinking was funny but don't recall any others that weren't at all funny. Beverly has ripped on Leonard, Penny, Howard and Raj in previous visits. I would be fine if she moved on to someone else. Odds are though Mary and Bev will not even be in a scene together. Baranski will probably only be seen by video.

I would say accepting each others beliefs shouldn't comprise asking someone - an adult who is not religious to pray or go to church, even if it's just once a year, but as I said of course, It's not comparable to Leonard/Beverly relationship. This is just small thing, Beverly is indeed very bad mother.

 How is her move on to anyone else will make it better? Leonard is like the nicest guy ever, do you really think if he saw his friend (yes, Amy is his friend, not best, but she is) devastated because his roommate and friend cheated on her with his mother it would make him feel better? He would be like, thank god,  at least it's not me this time? Sorry but seems like nothing more than totally OOC for him. The same goes for all characters... Highly doubt he would be comfortable for HIS mother to be cruel to anyone. If I would be interested in the plot where Leonard would get some satisfaction I would much more want to see Leonard standing up to her, it's his mother, most harm was done to him...moving the evil somewhere else is never a solution. But I will also be happy with normal, funny episode, this  season had a lot of serious eps, something just hilarious would be great for me. 

I don't know about just a video since Prady tweeted about it, I doubt he would be excited if it was just a video chat and they would not have any scene together, seems like they would not have to have them both if they didn't had any scene together, but it's also possibility of course. 

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Ok posts were hidden.  Talk about the ideas, not the other poster.  For example:

 

'Bernadette is a filthy, screechy, overbearing, ugly person to Howard." is perfectly fine.

 

'Bernadette is not such a thing because that whole idea is wrong (or idiotic, or messed up)", as an answer is perfectly fine.

 

What is not fine is "You are messed up(or idiotic or choose your derogatory term here) because you think Bernadette is a filthy, overbearing, screechy, ugly person to Howard".  Also, getting personal and commenting on what you don't like, or what you think are the reasons for the persons posting style is also not allowed.  Stick to the ideas, not your reactions to the poster.  If you want to see a good example of how posts should be answered, all the ideas, none of the poster, see Phantagrae's post If you get so riled up that you feel you have to address the poster multiple times, I would say your best bet would be to put them on ignore

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I am curious if I am the only one who thinks it is really weird that CBS hasn't released the press release or the photos for Thursday's episode. If there wasn't  a promo last Thursday, I would have doubts as to whether or not there actually is a new episode. I have been patiently waiting for them. CBS people must be on Spring Break or something. haha :)

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You just can't let it go, can you?

Even with imaginary scenarios, you can't let go of your warped version of the show..

everyone seems to have a warped version of how Bev appearing is good for Leonard. I was only agreeing with a Shamy shipper who thought Amy should get mad at Sheldon if she found out about what he said to Kripke..BTW did you see both Jim and Kaley's star while you were there for the taping?

I don't know about just a video since Prady tweeted about it, I doubt he would be excited if it was just a video chat and they would not have any scene together, seems like they would not have to have them both if they didn't had any scene together, but it's also possibility of course.

it seems to me a PR move to promote the show espicially to get people excited about the show since ratings were lower last week.

I am shocked because I thought both ships would be amped up for Beverly & Mary in the same episode.  This could go in so many directions.  Plus, for the Beverly bashing on Leonard, if anything, Mary and Penny to a degree might nip that in the butt.

 

Ok...just all in my head of course.

Penny never nipped it before. Mary has never changed Sheldon's behavior so I don't see it working with Bev. I suppose you are right that it could go many directions but most don't end well for Leonard. It's difficult comparing the ships in this scenario. there is not a Bev like character in Sheldon's world
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I can't say that I things have gone well for Leonard as a result of his mom being around.  But I do like Leonard/Lenny and yeah I do like her character.  Bev is so out there and Leonard is not.  So seeing her every so often (Skype, in town or otherwise) I can take her being around.

 

As a Shamy, I have to agree the kiss counts.  Whether or not it will be brought it up, remains to be seen. And if it is brought up,would it make it back to Amy?  IDK.

 

I really don't have any guesses about the storyline for their moms but I can say what I don't want(I know others feel differently):

Shamy sex talk (pushing, nudging, condemning) this to happen or not happen

Mary trying to calm/convince Sheldon to be ok with new living arrangements

Penny/Bev ganging up on Leonard

Bev knocking/not supporting Lenny engagement or pending nuptials

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I agree I don't want any of that stuff about Shamy sex. I don't want her to push him although Mary asking Sheldon his thoughts on marriage/sex wouldn't be horrible.

We already know Bev said if Penny was good enough for Sheldon she was good enough for her so I don't see her being non supportive about the wedding.

 

I don't think it would be so bad to bring up the living arrangements but not so much Mary telling Sheldon to calm down or convince him  but basically tell him that it was inevitable to happen some day.

 

I don't know what they would gang up on him about so that doesn't seem possible.

 

I would like to see both moms together, that could be fun....

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