S8 Discussion Thread

[Nogravitasatall]

I have no idea who you could be talking about here .

Honestly, if he didn't wait 2 years to confess I might have given him some points. Because if he felt that guilty about it, then he would have been better served to tell her right away, especially if he really didn't do anything wrong.

Ok, new scenario. The women held him firmly against the wall and he was so shocked he just stood there and got kissed, not enjoying it. He's only a small guy, he couldn't push her away and he didn't want to seem rude. But he crazily knew he was somehow responsible and felt guilty and had to now tell penny, because now it really matters.

Just creating the alternate story.

Edited April 23, 2015 by Nogravitasatall

[phantagrae]

In the interview he said raj had been cut off financially and was trying to fix that in tonight's episode. Did I miss when that happened? I know his parents cut him off when he was dating Emily the First, but I thought all was forgiven when they broke up.

 

This cut off is for a new reason.

[loriparis80]

Ok, new scenario. The women held him firmly against the wall and he was so shocked he just stood there and got kissed, not enjoying it. He's only a small guy, he couldn't push her away and he didn't want to seem rude. But he crazily knew he was somehow responsible and felt guilty and had to now tell penny, because now it really matters.

Just creating the alternate story.

JMO, if someone drunkenly comes towards you and kisses you out of nowhere, leaving you standing there in shock, it's not your fault. I'm not sure it's something you bring up necessarily because you may think it was a mistake or an accident. I mean you may feel bad but, you didn't initiate it and you may not want to cause a riff in you own relationship. I can understand why Leonard didn't bring it up, if that was the case.

[Earnie]

I want to wait to see the episode before I judge Leonard actions on the boat  I think it is something Penny will be angry about but not to the point of breaking up with Leonard and not wanting to marry him and after watching tonight's I don't  think the writers will break them up they just will not get married in Vegas which I think most Lenny fans will be ok with they want the big wedding

Edited April 24, 2015 by Earnie

[iheartshamy]

I can't believe that season 8 is over! Talk to all you guys in September when season 9 begins! 

[djsurrey]

I can't believe that season 8 is over! Talk to all you guys in September when season 9 begins! 

We still have the last two episodes to watch. Not over yet.

[mirs1]

Can I be a little cinical about these last part of the season? Let's watch carefully at the last four episodes...we have two kind of geek episodes (the Communication and the Graduation...) which are for me thought in order to interest (aka keep quite) mainly the real fandom of the show (like us),  so in there we find the "classical" nerd stuff, with a big Lenny part in the last one, but they are also sort of "coral" episodes, where a real fan can find some strong assonances with the old seasons. Then, in the two episodes to be...there will be the big Mums crash, that was called for by all fans (here in this forum many times I've  noticed somebody to hope for it) but that can interest also the casual watcher of the show (the people the producer want to increase the ratings...) Finally, the cliffhanger, which for me is meant ONLY for the casual watcher...For the average fan of TBBT the last episode is kind of a nightmare became true: Will Lenny ever get married? Will Shamy brake up? For us all shippers I foresee a long long summer.... besides all the last developments are really  illogical with respect to the story the writers have told us throughout the season.

Anyway, for a casual watcher,  the two cliffhanger are gold, they make him\her to say "Cool!  things on this show have been really messed up this time, let's see how the plot changes  next season..." In my opinion, if the ratings had been similar to those of the prervious season, we would have had a very different finale!!! In fact the cliffhanger of the previous season, apart of being consistent with the rest of the episodes, was not so catching for a casual watcher..."Sheldon will be back next season?" Of course so!! he's one of the main characters...not very tempting for somebody who is not a fan!

 

Now, I can only imagine  huge advertisings for this last episode (promo and all the rest....) and I'm very courious about how the ratings will be affected by this "strategy"...Of course, I'm not blaming the producers\writers; if it works, this is actually a very good strategy, their job consists in catching more people to watch the show...more people, more money and (hopefully) more seasons to come!!!

[Chelle]

I'll just enjoy the Dr.Hofstadter vs Mary Cooper episode next week.I'm not gonna lie,while I know that Shamy will be on their way to their own happily-ever-after,as a shipper,the mistimed "I am ready to fully commit to you, Amy Farrah Fowler" is just so heavy to my heart.I know I'll be shedding tears.

Edited April 24, 2015 by Chelle

[Martin Pollard]

I'm not gonna lie,while I know that Shamy will be on their way to their own happily-ever-after,as a shipper,the mistimed "I am ready to fully commit to you, Amy Farrah Fowler" is just so heavy to my heart.I know I'll be shedding tears.

 

With all due respect, I can't agree with that. He may believe that he's fully ready to commit to her, but (based on the TR) his actions in the episode, Amy's response, and the fact that he's clueless as to why she responded that way -- which is pretty much Sheldon in a nutshell, when you think about it -- shows that he's really not ready for it. Because unless he can better understand what's required of a committed relationship, any attempt at one (be it BF/GF or marriage) will ultimately be doomed to failure. He's lucky that Amy has been patient and understanding with him (sometimes requiring superhuman effort) up to this point, but everyone has a breaking point, and Amy seems to have reached hers. It'll ultimately work out in the end, of course, as Shamy is now as much an endgame as Lenny has been, but how it gets there will be interesting to see.

 

Of course, Lorre and Molaro could always pull a Shonda Rhimes and give Amy an abrupt and unexpected departure, but having Amy go the way of McDreamy isn't very likely.

[wowbagger]

 

 

Of course, Lorre and Molaro could always pull a Shonda Rhimes and give Amy an abrupt and unexpected departure, but having Amy go the way of McDreamy isn't very likely.

 

I'm not au fait with Grey's Anatomy, but I've seen what La Rhimes can do on Scandal, and I admit to a certain sick curiosity.

 

Maybe Howard's dad will indeed turn out to be Amy's! And he'll show up and warn Amy to break it off with Sheldon for National Security reasons! And then Childe Sheldonne will to the dark tower go....

 

or Amy's abducted and put up for sale on auction. And the buyer turns out to be-dun dun DUNNNNN- Faisal!

Edited April 24, 2015 by wowbagger

[Chelle]

With all due respect, I can't agree with that. He may believe that he's fully ready to commit to her, but (based on the TR) his actions in the episode, Amy's response, and the fact that he's clueless as to why she responded that way -- which is pretty much Sheldon in a nutshell, when you think about it -- shows that he's really not ready for it. Because unless he can better understand what's required of a committed relationship, any attempt at one (be it BF/GF or marriage) will ultimately be doomed to failure. He's lucky that Amy has been patient and understanding with him (sometimes requiring superhuman effort) up to this point, but everyone has a breaking point, and Amy seems to have reached hers. It'll ultimately work out in the end, of course, as Shamy is now as much an endgame as Lenny has been, but how it gets there will be interesting to see.

Of course, Lorre and Molaro could always pull a Shonda Rhimes and give Amy an abrupt and unexpected departure, but having Amy go the way of McDreamy isn't very likely. [emoji3]

With all due respect,I understand this is a public forum with lots of opinions,and I don't expect you or anyone to agree with me. We're different people here,thus different opinions. You have a good opinion though,it's just different from mine.

[Martin Pollard]

With all due respect,I understand this is a public forum with lots of opinions,and I don't expect you or anyone to agree with me. We're different people here,thus different opinions. You have a good opinion though,it's just different from mine.

Of course it is, and mine wasn't an attempt to oppress yours, so don't take it personally (which too many people with thin skins are prone to do these days).

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[Chelle]

Of course it is, and mine wasn't an attempt to oppress yours, so don't take it personally (which too many people with thin skins are prone to do these days).

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None taken.I have no business being in a public forum if I'll let another person's clashing opinion bum me out.

[wonder63]

I'm not au fait with Grey's Anatomy, but I've seen what La Rhimes can do on Scandal, and I admit to a certain sick curiosity.

 

Maybe Howard's dad will indeed turn out to be Amy's! And he'll show up and warn Amy to break it off with Sheldon for National Security reasons! And then Childe Sheldonne will to the dark tower go....

 

or Amy's abducted and put up for sale on auction. And the buyer turns out to be-dun dun DUNNNNN- Faisal!

 

On that note, I hope they will address Amy's father. I want to know if she even has one alive or dead or left?

 

We all know Amy is an only child, it fits what we have known about her and her mother, and her loneliness growing up.

[djsurrey]

....

 

Of course, Lorre and Molaro could always pull a Shonda Rhimes and give Amy an abrupt and unexpected departure, but having Amy go the way of McDreamy isn't very likely.

 

Unlikely when long contracts have been signed.

[Martin Pollard]

Unlikely when long contracts have been signed.

Patrick Dempsey was also signed for two years. Didn't stop McDreamy from meeting his maker. (No, people, I'm not saying that they're getting rid of Amy. I'm just having fun with all the shock and angst over the death of a popular character in another TV show. It's my inner Emily bubbling to the surface...)

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[bigbangsheldon]

 Any Big Bang Theory scoop on Penny and Leonard? —Joshua

As hinted in our freshly-updated May Sweeps preview, Sheldon forces the engaged couple in the May 7 season finale to confront the truth behind their non-existent wedding date. “Penny and Leonard would tell you the reason is she’s busy with her new career and things are really great between them and they’re in no rush,” explains exec producer Steve Molaro. “But, underneath it all, what’s the realreason? That all comes out.” And what’s the real creative reason behind the duo’s slow march to the alter? “The show has always been Leonard and Sheldon, our single bachelors living in that apartment,” reasons Molaro. “But we’re going right into the heart of that at the end of the season.”

 

 

http://tvline.com/2015/04/24/castle-season-7-finale-spoilers-rick-kate/

[Mislav]

I personally don't like cliffhangers. I mean, to wait for main story arcs to be resolved in next season premiere-what is the point of the FINALE then? It is just a cheap trick used to attract the viewers. Not to mention that the resolution usually ends up either being something too major or something that doesn't live up to the cliffhanger.

[fitzsimmons]

 Any Big Bang Theory scoop on Penny and Leonard? —Joshua

As hinted in our freshly-updated May Sweeps preview, Sheldon forces the engaged couple in the May 7 season finale to confront the truth behind their non-existent wedding date. “Penny and Leonard would tell you the reason is she’s busy with her new career and things are really great between them and they’re in no rush,” explains exec producer Steve Molaro. “But, underneath it all, what’s the realreason? That all comes out.” And what’s the real creative reason behind the duo’s slow march to the alter? “The show has always been Leonard and Sheldon, our single bachelors living in that apartment,” reasons Molaro. “But we’re going right into the heart of that at the end of the season.”

 

http://tvline.com/2015/04/24/castle-season-7-finale-spoilers-rick-kate/

 

 

But like... Sheldon and Leonard haven't been single bachelors in four or five years so like... that hasn't been a thing for longer than it has been a thing???????

[stardustmelody]

 

 

 Any Big Bang Theory scoop on Penny and Leonard? —Joshua

As hinted in our freshly-updated May Sweeps preview, Sheldon forces the engaged couple in the May 7 season finale to confront the truth behind their non-existent wedding date. “Penny and Leonard would tell you the reason is she’s busy with her new career and things are really great between them and they’re in no rush,” explains exec producer Steve Molaro. “But, underneath it all, what’s the realreason? That all comes out.” And what’s the real creative reason behind the duo’s slow march to the alter? “The show has always been Leonard and Sheldon, our single bachelors living in that apartment,” reasons Molaro. “But we’re going right into the heart of that at the end of the season.”

 

 

While this could end up being a good thing in the long run...the bold part still is a bit scary about how this will come out and how long it will take before they resolve it.

 

MisLav, I am not fond of cliffhangers either. I  have always found them too "soap operaish" and kind of a cheap trick, especially when used over a long hiatus period.   They really show their PR cards when they resort to that kind of ploy.  In fact a lot of cheap plot ploys bother me.  I have valued the writers' creativity a lot of times on BBT, but really hate when they resort to cheap ploys like history re-writes in order to fit a single episode, or characters going completely out of their norm just to fit into an episode a story they want to tell for that one episode.   It really is annoying to viewers.  I wish they would figure that one out and really work at focusing on creativity instead of violating history and character traits.  Same with cliffhangers...get creative to draw viewers back without the need for those.

Edited April 24, 2015 by stardustmelody

[Martin Pollard]

I personally don't like cliffhangers. [...] It is just a cheap trick used to attract the viewers.

 

Yup, going all the way back to the movie serials of the 1930s (where the damsel in distress would be literally "hanging off a cliff"), but you can blame Dallas and the "Who Shot JR?" season-ending cliffhanger for making it popular on prime-time television. Thing is, it works, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it.

 

(My most memorable cliffhanger? "The Best of Both Worlds," the third-season finale of Star Trek: The Next Generation, when Picard was assimilated by the Borg and Riker gave the order to fire on the Borg ship. Trekdom was abuzz all summer over it, with lots of debate and speculation on BBS forums and Usenet newsgroups.)

[Mislav]

While this could end up being a good thing in the long run...the bold part still is a bit scary about how this will come out and how long it will take before they resolve it.

MisLav, I am not fond of cliffhangers either. I have always found them too "soap operaish" and kind of a cheap trick, especially when used over a long hiatus period. They really show their PR cards when they resort to that kind of ploy. In fact a lot of cheap plot ploys bother me. I have valued the writers' creativity a lot of times on BBT, but really hate when they resort to cheap ploys like history re-writes in order to fit a single episode, or characters going completely out of their norm just to fit into an episode a story they want to tell for that one episode. It really is annoying to viewers. I wish they would figure that one out and really work at focusing on creativity instead of violating history and character traits. Same with cliffhangers...get creative to draw viewers back without the need for those.

Such as Leonard snorring when it originally was Penny snorring, Penny not knowing that Las Vegas weddings are real in season seven despite mentioning that she had a few friends who got married there in the season five finale and Penny making Penny blossoms in season two but being completely clumsy with it in season seven...

Yup, going all the way back to the movie serials of the 1930s (where the damsel in distress would be literally "hanging off a cliff"), but you can blame Dallas and the "Who Shot JR?" season-ending cliffhanger for making it popular on prime-time television. Thing is, it works, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it.

(My most memorable cliffhanger? "The Best of Both Worlds," the third-season finale of Star Trek: The Next Generation, when Picard was assimilated by the Borg and Riker gave the order to fire on the Borg ship. Trekdom was abuzz all summer over it, with lots of debate and speculation on BBS forums and Usenet newsgroups.)

Well yes it works, but if they would try more they would be able to do a season finale without cliffhangers and still continue Attracting the viewers. Monk had almost no cliffhangers in season finales and the show ran for eight seasons. Elementary had no cliffhanger in season one finale and season two was even more popular, while the two part season one finale is often listed as the best episode of the show among fans. Rules of engagement-seven seasons, no cliffhangers. Bones: ten seasons by now, almosr no season finale cliffhangers. Let's not forget the movies: Lethal weapon: very popular-and good-four movies, no cliffhangers. Ice Age: four movies so far, no cliffhangers. The first and the third season of TBBT had no real cliffhangers and that didn't seem to have hurt the show's popularity. It almost seems disrespectful ti the fans: to watch every episode of the season only to be left waiting three months for the established main arcs to resolve. Edited April 24, 2015 by Mislav

[Tensor]

...speculation on BBS forums and Usenet newsgroups.)

 

Heheheheheheheh, FIDO.

[Martin Pollard]

Heheheheheheheh, FIDO.

 

Yup! I hung out on the FidoNet TREK echo (the equivalent of a forum for those unfamiliar with FidoNet) for years. Fun times; lots of good people there (and one particularly obnoxious participant by the name of James Dixon, who was universally reviled and shunned by everyone).

[vasu]

 

 

 Any Big Bang Theory scoop on Penny and Leonard? —Joshua

As hinted in our freshly-updated May Sweeps preview, Sheldon forces the engaged couple in the May 7 season finale to confront the truth behind their non-existent wedding date. “Penny and Leonard would tell you the reason is she’s busy with her new career and things are really great between them and they’re in no rush,” explains exec producer Steve Molaro. “But, underneath it all, what’s the real reason? That all comes out.” And what’s the real creative reason behind the duo’s slow march to the alter? “The show has always been Leonard and Sheldon, our single bachelors living in that apartment,” reasons Molaro. “But we’re going right into the heart of that at the end of the season.”

 

 

what is the real reason??? that leonard *cheated* did whatever he did??...

 

last season i thought the reason was penny proving that she is not pregnant.....and her brother being in jail.....

Edited April 24, 2015 by vasu