S8 Discussion Thread

[Nogravitasatall]

That was my reaction when I read the taping report. Somehow when I watched the episode I let myself be transported to BBT land.

Luminous fish also required suspension of disbelief. Let the tent be a metaphor.

I'd misquote Arthur C. Clarke regarding sufficiently advanced technology being indistinguishable from magic. Easy to believe. Lol. Forts I did at seven. Oh, well, the ship has sailed.

[MTBigBangTheoryFan]

Off Topic but to anyone who live in Baltimore or in that area PLEASE STAY SAFE! 

Edited April 27, 2015 by MTBigBangTheoryFan

[pegcarr]

I think lenny will move in together and maybe get married, shamy will resolve any issues they have quite early on I hope

I give this season 9/10, lots of good things have happened and I've enjoyed it thoroughly

I have only been able to watch up to 8.12 so far but am really enjoying it and looking forward to actually seeing the other episodes that I have read about here.

[loriparis80]

So as this is the spoiler thread, I'm assuming everyone knows how the whole season will finish. So overall, how do you think this season ranks compared to others? What about how things have changed; do you think there will be a big shift in season 9 for the whole show's tone

For me season 8 was a 6/10. I think season 9 will be more about relationship development with science and funny moments thrown into the mix.Some things I'd personally like to see in season 9 would be that Lenny gets married, but if they don't, I hope they move in together permanently. I hope Leonard regains the confidence he once had. I think Shamy will get engaged. Raj and Emily move in together. Emily will break away from the dark side. Cinnamon will make an appearance. Howardette talk about having children and Bernadette agrees they will try. Would love to see Meemaw, Lenny's family members and paintball girls vs. boys. #TeamPenamadette

[djsurrey]

I expect a lot of self doubt in Leonard now that Penny is making twice what he is.

[phantagrae]

I'd misquote Arthur C. Clarke regarding sufficiently advanced technology being indistinguishable from magic. Easy to believe. Lol. Forts I did at seven. Oh, well, the ship has sailed.

But didn't you understand the purpose of the fort? It was a way to kind of assuage the hurt of being left out, whether it's from being left out if a conference or the lingering childhood pain of being left out of his siblings and their forts.

Both characters know the emotional sting of being left out--in fact most of the characters do--and so this was one easy way to kind of make up for that.

It wasn't making a fort as just a passtime, like buying comic books or watching a movie. In fact they were having a regular date, like a relatively normal couple.

And Sheldon did ask if making a fort was somewhat juvenile, but in the end it turned out to be fun. And it led to Sheldon agreeing to have Amy spend the night.

While it's true that he didn't want it to be about sex, it was mostly about having a fort where he could control who was included or excluded. He even wanted a chance to be the one to exclude someone, but in the end invited Leonard in because it was such a cool fort.

And apart from Amy, building a fort is something that I think early season Sheldon is just as likely to have done.

And as always, Sheldon's version of growing up is different from the rest of us. While you or any of us might have built forts at seven, Sheldon's childhood was completely different. His experience with friends (or the lack of them) or with bullying or playing was different, so his perspective as an adult is different. In many ways he's still that excluded kid. I wouldn't begrudge him the occasional blanket fort.

[rachelshamyfan]

That's how I took it as well, doing something they couldn't do as kids now and there's nothing wrong with that

[djsurrey]

.... In many ways he's still that excluded kid. I wouldn't begrudge him the occasional blanket fort.

 

I doubt we will ever see him in one again.

[djsurrey]

That's how I took it as well, doing something they couldn't do as kids now and there's nothing wrong with that

 

Oh dear.

Understanding it does not mean there is nothing wrong with it. But what do you even mean by wrong in this instance?

There are reasons real adults don't do this. Sheldon has an apartment that he pays for. He does not need a fort since he has his own space.

 

It was cute but it's not real.

[Nogravitasatall]

But didn't you understand the purpose of the fort? It was a way to kind of assuage the hurt of being left out, whether it's from being left out if a conference or the lingering childhood pain of being left out of his siblings and their forts.

Both characters know the emotional sting of being left out--in fact most of the characters do--and so this was one easy way to kind of make up for that.

It wasn't making a fort as just a passtime, like buying comic books or watching a movie. In fact they were having a regular date, like a relatively normal couple.

And Sheldon did ask if making a fort was somewhat juvenile, but in the end it turned out to be fun. And it led to Sheldon agreeing to have Amy spend the night.

While it's true that he didn't want it to be about sex, it was mostly about having a fort where he could control who was included or excluded. He even wanted a chance to be the one to exclude someone, but in the end invited Leonard in because it was such a cool fort.

And apart from Amy, building a fort is something that I think early season Sheldon is just as likely to have done.

And as always, Sheldon's version of growing up is different from the rest of us. While you or any of us might have built forts at seven, Sheldon's childhood was completely different. His experience with friends (or the lack of them) or with bullying or playing was different, so his perspective as an adult is different. In many ways he's still that excluded kid. I wouldn't begrudge him the occasional blanket fort.

Not really reading it that way. If I wanted to assuage my hurt I'd likely just do what Leonard used to do. Lol. Or invite someone I knew well to help me with that. Lol. I'm just not getting the fort. Maybe I've not got a big enough brain to clearly take on board the metaphor. But the party lights are a nice touch. We do that when camping. Solar ones.

[nickelette424]

I guess I didn't think that the blanket fort thing was that horribly juvenile.  When Community did it's blanket fort episodes some friends and I talked about how much we loved it when we were kids and how much more awesome we could make a fort now that we are adults.  When I went to work after this particular episode, the conversation was about the same.  Sometimes fun is fun no matter how old you are.

 

Also, I agree with Phanta that it was a therapeutic thing for Sheldon.  For him, the fort helped.  For you it may be something else, for me something different all together.  I think the more important thing here was that it made him feel so much better to share in something he was often excluded from with the person he loves. 

[meka3000]

There are reasons real adults don't do this. 

 

So you can speak for all "real adults" on what qualifies as "adult behavior"?

[Nogravitasatall]

So you can speak for all "real adults" on what qualifies as "adult behavior"?

Are you taking the opposite position? LOL.

[pegcarr]

That's how I took it as well, doing something they couldn't do as kids now and there's nothing wrong with that

Agree plus Shamy were having fun leading to the sleepover

[wowbagger]

Forts I did at seven.

 

I didn't. And I didn't particularly want to. But you know what? I'd love to now. Slap a bib on me and call me a baby.

 

(Of course, I squeal internally every time I sit right in front on top of a double-decker bus. If I could find someone to give me a stickie-on rubber wheel so I can pretend to drive the bus, I kid you not, I would take it with me everywhere.)

[tallin]

We built the fort with kids at preschool, and I, as a teacher, may or may not enjoy it the most   There's something about being juvenile when you have to  act mature and sophisticated all the time. Sorry, I don't feel like being less adult, because I once in a while entertain myself with immature activity, and I saw enough fathers stealing their kid's kite, because it's their turn to fly it, to know I'm not alone...   I think it was well  written metaphor of Shamy relationship, two outsiders having someone not just let them in, but even to build the fort together, correcting their not so pleasant past experiences. Plus it was  great catalyst to sleepover, which was big step and needed to be done carefully. It was very good, IC way.

 

BTW wowbagger, can I borrow the wheel when you're done ? 

Edited April 28, 2015 by tallin

[wowbagger]

We built the fort with kids at preschool, and I, as a teacher, may or may not enjoy it the most   There's something about being juvenile when you have to  act mature and sophisticated all the time. Sorry, I don't feel like being less adult, because I once in a while entertain myself with immature activity, and I saw enough fathers stealing their kid's kite, because it's their turn to fly it, to know I'm not alone...   I think it was well  written metaphor of Shamy relationship, two outsiders having someone not just let them in, but even to build the fort together, correcting their not so pleasant past experiences. Plus it was  great catalyst to sleepover, which was big step and needed to be done carefully. It was very good, IC way.

 

BTW wowbagger, can I borrow the wheel when you're done ? 

 

tallin, I have two friends (both of whom are theoretical physicists!) who love sitting in front on the top deck of a double-decker bus. I have hunted high and low for a stickie-on rubber wheel, to no avail. Poot. If one of you lovely people could oblige....

[ATOB]

Hmm, I have a degree in 'titting about wearing a funny hat' and made a living playing pretend games for a good decade...you grown ups should try it, I'm sure your inner child is not really too far beneath the surface if you really squint.

[Nogravitasatall]

Ok, I'm glad it that people have their outlets. I am saying that didn't resonate with me. At all. I was bemused. It's not my thing. I found it off-putting. I didn't find it funny. I didn't get the point. It isn't a universally delightful to see a 30 plus guy playing in a sheet fort and his sexually mature girlfriend pulling out her pyjamas from where she hid them two years ago. I did not fall about in stitches.

[Mislav]

Are you taking the opposite position? LOL.

Yes, a logical and mature one if you ask me (judging by meka3000's post, I mean).

[ATOB]

Ok, I'm glad it that people have their outlets. I am saying that didn't resonate with me. At all. I was bemused. It's not my thing. I found it off-putting. I didn't find it funny. I didn't get the point. It isn't a universally delightful to see a 30 plus guy playing in a sheet fort and his sexually mature girlfriend pulling out her pyjamas from where she hid them two years ago. I did not fall about in stitches.

Yay, I get to use my new fav abbreviation..... YMMV!

Confession, I haven't seen it yet.....and I bet when I do E4 will cut anything mildly risky before they air it.

[Mislav]

Ok, I'm glad it that people have their outlets. I am saying that didn't resonate with me. At all. I was bemused. It's not my thing. I found it off-putting. I didn't find it funny. I didn't get the point. It isn't a universally delightful to see a 30 plus guy playing in a sheet fort and his sexually mature girlfriend pulling out her pyjamas from where she hid them two years ago. I did not fall about in stitches.

What exactly do you mean by off-putting? And who said anything about falling out in stitches?

I personally agree with other posters saying that it was just a way to show both of their's childlish sides. And I think that anyone who had been watching the show for some time can find it in character for both of them, even if he/she doesn't care about certain characters. As for sexually mature part, I actually find it refreshing to see a relationship that works despite one party not being as into physical contacts as the other one, and showing two grown ups engage in something that is intimate but in an innocent way, as well as have fun in an unusually way and accept their childlish or slightly immature traits. But I guess one can, somehow, interpret that as off putting...

Edited April 28, 2015 by Mislav

[wowbagger]

Ok, I'm glad it that people have their outlets. I am saying that didn't resonate with me. At all. I was bemused. It's not my thing. I found it off-putting. I didn't find it funny. I didn't get the point. It isn't a universally delightful to see a 30 plus guy playing in a sheet fort and his sexually mature girlfriend pulling out her pyjamas from where she hid them two years ago. I did not fall about in stitches.

 

That's okay, but more importantly, WHERE DO YOU LAND ON THE SUBJECT OF RIDING IN FRONT OF THE TOP DECK OF A DOUBLE-DECKER BUS?!?

[Nogravitasatall]

What exactly do you mean by off-putting? And who said anything about falling out in stitches?

I personally agree with other posters saying that it was just a way to show both of their's childlish sides. And I think that anyone who had been watching the show for some time can find it in character for both of them, even if he/she doesn't care about certain characters. As for sexually mature part, I actually find it refreshing to see a relationship that works despite one party not being as into physical contacts as the other one, and showing two grown ups engage in something that is intimate but in an innocent way, as well as have fun in an unusually way and accept their childlish or slightly immature traits. But I guess one can, somehow, interpret that as off putting...

Hey Mislav. I found the juxtaposition of the childlike play and the sexual inference in sleepover to be disconcerting. Maybe it's my frame of reference. I don't think I'm alone, there are at least two who think so. Not falling about in stitches means I didn't find it funny either. Falling about in stitches refers to being breathless from laughter and getting a pain in the side, I think from localised cramping.

That's okay, but more importantly, WHERE DO YOU LAND ON THE SUBJECT OF RIDING IN FRONT OF THE TOP DECK OF A DOUBLE-DECKER BUS?!?

That is the best seat. Though in the open top buses you have watch for the drop bears. That's why here we only have single decks and they are closed in. Or so I like to believe.

Yay, I get to use my new fav abbreviation..... YMMV!

Confession, I haven't seen it yet.....and I bet when I do E4 will cut anything mildly risky before they air it.

Well, I'd like quote Kazzie from what she said about Ms Cuoco-Sweetings haircut and its effect on vascular tissues. So I dont think anything will be cut.

Edited April 28, 2015 by Nogravitasatall

[Martin Pollard]

That's okay, but more importantly, WHERE DO YOU LAND ON THE SUBJECT OF RIDING IN FRONT OF THE TOP DECK OF A DOUBLE-DECKER BUS?!?

 

As long as the bus doesn't travel through a wormhole and emerge on a planet threatened by a swarm of metal-based creatures where we need to be saved from imminent death by the Doctor, I'm okay with them.