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I think this show has always explored different forms and kinds of smart, from intellectual intelligence to social intelligence. Penny for instance may be not as educated or as intelligent as the people she chooses to be her closest friends. But she has a lot of social intelligence, and in certain scenarios can function much better then Sheldon or any of the guys, or even Amy and Bernadette. I remember in S2 Sheldon was like "Um in this case Penny you would be the strange one", she is almost stranger in toon town. I think more and more now, she is becoming less stranger since Season 4 and one of them. Although Sheldon can still be very brutally honest with Penny to the point it is very damaging, but I think they have all learnt something from each other, in a way Leonard and the guys, even Amy and Bernadette have inspired Penny to get a better education, and Penny has also rubbed off on the guys and the girls in terms of being more socially aware, look at Amy she was very robotic and Sheldon but a lot more socially intelligent since Penny entered their lifes.

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IDK where to put this?? The show comes back on the 22nd of Sept with two episodes

"Only" three more months to go for me (being unspoiled) I assume taping starts first week of. September then?

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There could actually be some spoilers about basic plotlines, etc. in about 4 weeks time if the show does a panel at SDCC. Last year, the writers gifted us with info on Amy/Bernadette's trip in the season 7 opener and a few other pieces of info if I recall. I know it's not much, but it could be fuel for some good ol' fashion theorizing and may give us some clue as to where the writers are taking these characters this season.

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Now that we know that the first two episodes will be back-to-back, I'd like to see them mirror the season 7 start, this time showing how Lenny are getting on temporarily free of Sheldon followed be the fallout from him leaving when he returns.

 

Apologies to Tensor, seems he already said pretty much the same thing in another thread.

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@Cecelia ( to continue on from the wish list). I'm not personally outraged about Amy bludgeoning people, it's just that it seems to be her thing. She swung at teeny-tiny Bernadette and copped Penny by accident, she was happy about setting drugged monkeys loose on Priya and she whopped Leonard with hard with a pillow. All totally innocent and good humoured yet its a trend. I guess they are just playing against type, but it's always the quiet ones. She has a style, like Penny had with punishing herself with drink and Bernadette has with the loud aggression. None of these idiots are paragons of virtue. LOL.

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Yeah and more it is showing Amy can be very passive aggressive, and use's a physical outlet, to deal with her repressed emotions of being in emotionally one sided relationship, don't blame her though. Penny used drinking, Amy can get Physicial, Bernie gets all loud e.t.c. Virtue? Yip not in this show haha.

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I never considered it like that loool. Tbh the Priya thing and the Bernie/Penny thing were pretty funny. Bernie is tiny but she is pretty scary!! But believe me I did not enjoy Amy hitting Leonard with the pillow it seemed tragic for both characters. I don't think it's a trend though I think it happened mostly cause there are several episodes between those scenes. When the writers want to create a trend they shout it like every episode like the sex frustration joke and luckily that ended or so I hope. I wouldn't really mind if that became Amy's thing tho :p But I will always prefer her being verbaly sassy. :p

Anyway if the issue was wether Lenny should have informed Amy that Sheldon was on the train station I think they should. If the issue is who is a better friend I think that is something that each one of us will tell taking into account their personal beliefs. I have taken my anger out to people that didn't deserve it and people have done that to me. Up to a point I personally can understand this and admire the one who stays there and takes the hit like Leonard did. As for Penny I said my opinion on the other thread. Again I personally am disappointed but I understand if someone else isn't. As far as Sheldon concerns he has his share of blame -again IMO- but that has nothing to do with the friendship thing. Of course Amy has hers too I am not leaving her out of this. It wasn't appropriate to hit Leonard but that doesn't make her a bad friend I think. Just a really hurt one.

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How do we know they didn't I mean a lot of stuff happens behind the scene's you don't see on tv, Penny could of sent a text Mr Doodle has left the building haha.

 

And you wonder why some ppl think you sometimes as offense...

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@cecilia, I occasionally try to look at what was the character's intent. With Sheldon and the itchy sweater he knew that Leonard had been set a pointless task. It was purposeful. Amy hitting Penny was accidental, so she had no intent, but she lashed out at Bernadette reflexively or without thought, which implies that that is a default setting for her. I think her mum scarred her.

In the finale Penny and Leonard set out to see if Sheldon was safe, with the best intentions.

They had no idea that Sheldon hadn't told Amy already about his plans, even if he hadn't told the two of them. I really can't see how they could have anticipated that he wouldn't tell her. So they had no intent to harm Amy and would have expected her to have been told already. When Amy pummelled Leonard she was again lashing out impulsively, without intent but in line with her previous pattern of behaviour. When she can't argue and can't win, she gets physical. Except with Sheldon, because she knows she can't get physical with him and still have a relationship. Leonard she doesn't care about so much, so bam!

Penny didn't interfere, which in my mind was a result of her purposefully thinking something like "this was a result of Sheldon's actions, he's a grown man and Amy is a grown women and Sheldon should cop to the consequences of his action and Amy should by now know of what Sheldon is capable, it's not like the last four years haven't been telling her something". Leonard was just innocently sitting there and got whacked for no good reason. I think he got the rough end of the pineapple. Penny letting it happen was maybe tough love but a bit cold. She is the least romantic of the bunch, as we know.

Even though it all happened fast I can too easily empathise with Leonard sitting there feeling bad for Amy and then getting hit on the bridge of the nose, which hurts and for which he would not have been braced. But he's a patsy for a beating - such a marshmallow sometimes.

I did laugh a lot at the time. This is the end of over-thinking on this for me.

Edited for mom, which is the ministry of magic. Lol.

Edited by Nogravitasatall

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Lol maybe her mom did scare her!! That's funny :p

Amy was searhing him a while ago and then he didn't come home and they tracked him through his phone. Plus they had a fight about the living arrangements. I mean who would think that Sheldon would call her and say "I am in a train station and I am fine". They could check with her but frankly I think that has reached the point where each can decide what they are ok with and what not. Anyway it's not like they killed a man (so they surely can watch next Star Trek movie..or was it Star Wars..Anyway :p )..

I really hope Penny didn't think "oh there have been four years now she should know better and she had it coming". Yes she is a grown woman. But she is also in love. I mean should anyone say to Penny "you had it coming love he was about to find someone knew since you left him" when Leonard was with Priya?? It's one thing to take the other person seriously and actually tell them how things are and make them realize their mistakes and a whole other things to watch your friend be such a mess. Bored. And I am not a big fun of tough love cause sometimes it becomes just cruel. Not talking about that situation but in general. I realky really want proof of Penny's love for Amy mostly cause I am a sucker about friendships and that one in general. Believe me I was really sad when I saw that scene :(

I can empathize with Leonard too. You see I wear glasses. I hope that post is even a bit smaller than the others. Wish there was a switch of overthinking! Anyway I enjoyed our conversation!! Your overthinking is nice :)

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@cecilia Penny knew she made a mistake dumping Leonard. She didn't need to be told. The drinking was to punish herself, to self-medicate for her pain. Almost banging Raj was her wanting to make herself feel better, because she was so deeply sad. I wonder a bit if until just the last two episodes she still had residual thoughts that she didn't deserve Leonard, and then she finally got over herself. Much has been written about this by more articulate people. Read Tensor's Chewtoy story, for example. Lol.

Cheers.

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and to make this about S8, its going to be interesting to see how they play this now Penny is engaged and hopefully completely on board with making a life with Leonard, without doubting herself.

Edited by Nogravitasatall

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And you wonder why some ppl think you sometimes as offense.

 

What over a fictional character? Look I am sorry we have different views on the character of Sheldon, but I don't directly quote anyone just for the sake of antagonising someone like you do with several of my posts, if your taking offense at some of my post's I am sorry haha but seeing it is a fictional show, I am just sharing my opinions based on how I see it, same as your doing. As for you taking offense to my post are you serious, if Sheldon was real I am sure he would cool enough to see it as just a joke, lighten up.

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Well at first she didn't want to admit it to herself. I was watching the episode when the girls played truth or dare and she clearly didn't want to admit that Leonard will probably find a girlfriend cause he is a great guy. Even when Amy went to comfort her she insisted that she was fine. I think Penny had some self esteem issues cause Leonard really is a great guy and he is smart and she couldn't realize that she indeed deserved him. I don't know I always had a feeling that the first time they broke up she kinda had a fear of being dumped so she wanted to save herself from the pain. But though I like Leonard and Penny I am not the expert some people on this forum are on the Lenny pairing. I would reallyyyy like a decent job for Penny this season!! I LOVED serial apeist (and longed for the whole gang to watch the dvd!!!) but I would like something that she would be really proud of.

eta: Norg you know I am talking to you right ?? :p

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Penny in broadway is what I want for her character in S8! Getting into the acting community and finding Friends she can relate to. Penny doing theatre, and some small time plays at the Pasadena Theatre. Like too see Penny their a lot more in S8, just hanging out, their doing auditions. Leonard watching her from the stands, making hand gestures do this and do that, then Penny shouts at Leonard "Leonard Hostedtter shut up!! To the Producers exclaim" haha. But I also think Penny needs a job, maybe she could get a job a the Cal-Tech cafeteria haha kiddin. Also Leonard and Penny go on vacation.

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