Leonard And Penny: Season 8 So Far

[Tensor]

I said misinterpreting.  Also I specifically said they are misinterpreting Molaro's words.

Their interpretation COULD BE possible,

 

If it's possible, explain how they could be misinterpreting Molaro's words. All you have is their speculation doesn't match yours.

 

Its also possible that THEY DON'T get married in Vegas. But get married later after sorting out their latest ROAD BLOCK without breaking up.  It's also possible one of their parents could die and THAT becomes another ROAD BLOCK for them.  There's more than one type of road block that life puts in front of us.

Precisely. This is what I've been arguing. That the article doesn't specify allows speculation, as long as it doesn't go against the anything released or in the article. I'm so glad you agree with me that there are various possible happenings which means there are also various possible interpretations

 

Ask yourself this, of these two titles:

-"Will Penny marry Leonard in Vegas?  Producer hints at breakup when show returns" (Actual title)

-"Will Penny marry Leonard in Vegas?  Producer hints at road blocks when show returns"

 

Based on the specific words Molaro ACTUALLY SAID.  Which title is more PRECISELY ACCURATE?

Since we have no idea how it's going to play out, either one.

 

And which title is more likely to generate more hits on the specific article?

Who cares?

[Itwasdestined]

You make a good point SRAM. I think they've lost a lot of viewers this season. There has been literally nothing much to talk about lenny even on the Internet no one is really talking about the Leonard kiss. It's like lenny fans have given up on them and even on this forum a lot of Lenny fans do not post anymore. I'm worried about the damage done to lenny this season can never be fixed and I fear next season more will desert the show if they carry on milking the cash cow.

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I haven't given up on them. I just haven't posted for a while because everyone is so down about their perceived downgrading and the unnecessary twist of the finale that it's not worth going through the same "wash, rinse, repeat" cycle of sadness and disappointment that many are feeling. When the series starts up again and there is something new, good or bad, to discuss, I'll rejoin the conversation. I'm not criticizing how people feel or - the latest favourite complaint - telling anyone they're watching it wrong, I'm just not seeing the worth in regurgitating the same old argument over and over again for the sake of continuing to post on a forum. There are more fruitful tasks for me to partake in ATM.

Having said that, as the Phoenix rose again from the ashes of Season 3/4, I'm confident Lenny will emerge from the debacle that is the WTF Kiss confession still in love, still confused, still doubtful but still determined to prove everyone wrong who think they don't belong together.

[Tonstar17]

I haven't given up on them. I just haven't posted for a while because everyone is so down about their perceived downgrading and the unnecessary twist of the finale that it's not worth going through the same "wash, rinse, repeat" cycle of sadness and disappointment that many are feeling. When the series starts up again and there is something new, good or bad, to discuss, I'll rejoin the conversation. I'm not criticizing how people feel or - the latest favourite complaint - telling anyone they're watching it wrong, I'm just not seeing the worth in regurgitating the same old argument over and over again for the sake of continuing to post on a forum. There are more fruitful tasks for me to partake in ATM.

Having said that, as the Phoenix rose again from the ashes of Season 3/4, I'm confident Lenny will emerge from the debacle that is the WTF Kiss confession still in love, still confused, still doubtful but still determined to prove everyone wrong who think they don't belong together.

I hear you brother. Hope you know I wasn't taking about you. Just the ones who stopped posting in S7 and early S8. I do enjoy the end of the season speculations and what's going to happen in S9. But the you are watching the show wrong is kind of annoying nobody should be told how to watch a show. But on another brighter note I was over on the other forum and someone mentioned that from S1 to S8 final, lenny have had 58 kisses. It made me smile. To think some of us including me complained about the lack of kissing in S8 now feels trivial.

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[Itwasdestined]

Alls cool Ton. When I get back in the right frame of mind after dads funeral I'll be back to the fun of speculating. I had a ball last hiatus but we did have more positive engagement vibes to feed off than the kiss fiasco. I just hope the Lennies can eventually move on from the doldrums of 8 and pretend there is a chance for redemption in S9 or it's just gonna be too damned depressing to speculate positive possibilities. Like the harsh reality of family death, you have the right to grieve as long as you feel you need to but eventually you need to find it in yourself to look for a positive outlook to move yourself on.

[Tonstar17]

Alls cool Ton. When I get back in the right frame of mind after dads funeral I'll be back to the fun of speculating. I had a ball last hiatus but we did have more positive engagement vibes to feed off than the kiss fiasco. I just hope the Lennies can eventually move on from the doldrums of 8 and pretend there is a chance for redemption in S9 or it's just gonna be too damned depressing to speculate positive possibilities. Like the harsh reality of family death, you have the right to grieve as long as you feel you need to but eventually you need to find it in yourself to look for a positive outlook to move yourself on.

Sad to hear about your loss, its always painful to lose someone special. My thoughts are with you and your family.

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[Itwasdestined]

Thanks mate. I'm moving on. In my nature as is evident on this forum. Mum and sister not doing so good. But back to topic.

[Tonstar17]

So guys. Do you think Leonard & Penny will get married in Vegas? Discuss. ..

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[djsurrey]

I doubt the cat is dead.

My guess is they are not married. Given the run up to the engagement I am guessing there will be 2 or three trips to Vegas and they will eventually show up married when no one expects it.

I'm also thinking they may start 9.01 hung over and unsure of there status.

[Guest]

If they do get married I still don't think they will be living together because Sheldon won't be ready yet for that

[Kathy2611]

If they do get married I still don't think they will be living together because Sheldon won't be ready yet for that

If they do that, I will be so pissed!! That would be so unbelievably stupid and unrealistic! The man is in his mid 30's. He can't possibly expect them not to live together and without him!! And if they do, then Lenny are just as stupid and just as much to blame. And if I were Amy, I'd say adios to all of them! That scenario would just be out right ridiculous!

[Tonstar17]

I think they wouldn’t get married in vegas

like old sailor said it would be weird and strange if they were to get married and not live together. Fan wouldn’t buy that scenerio. I do like djsurrey suggestion of them waking up from a drunken haze and not sure if they did or not. So much comedy to explore here.

if they do then to me the writers have truly given up on lenny and ended their story. Missing out on all the fun of planning the wedding family members showing up, the comedy will be prizeless.

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[Guest]

I think that the writers think that as long as sheldons is in control anything is funny

[Tonstar17]

I think that the writers think that as long as sheldons is in control anything is funny

The only good thing I can see coming out of them getting married in Vegas is that Sheldon wouldn't be there to take control. That's why I also think they wouldn't get married there. Sheldon has to be some how involved. (It's TPTB thing now) Because you know Lenny are not funny and can't think for themselves without the third wheel.

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[Tensor]

If they do that, I will be so pissed!! That would be so unbelievably stupid and unrealistic! The man is in his mid 30's. He can't possibly expect them not to live together and without him!! And if they do, then Lenny are just as stupid and just as much to blame. And if I were Amy, I'd say adios to all of them! That scenario would just be out right ridiculous!

This is why I don't think they will be getting married in Vegas. Although Sheldon has a ring, I don't see TPTB being ready to get rid of Shelnard in Apartment 4A. And, as you said Kath, it's too unrealistic to have them married and still in the apartment with Sheldon.

[Tonstar17]

They could move into penny’s apartment and Sheldon could sleep there once a week. That wouldn't be weird. I'm sure Amy will be fine with that arrangement or even better they could have a sleepover once a week in penny living room. That wouldn’t be unrealistic.

[Guest]

I wouldn't put it pass the writers to do this it keeps everyone living the way they have and Penny has always been leary of living with Leonard. I don't think Leonard will get the tenure position either

[Tonstar17]

You never know tptb might shock us next season & decide to grow the Leonard character. OK where did that come from.

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[Strawberry PopTart Fan]

You never know tptb might shock us next season & decide to grow the Leonard character. OK where did that come from.

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Your optimism popped through the dark clouds!

It's OK. Leonard needs a little love.

[meka3000]

If it's possible, explain how they could be misinterpreting Molaro's words. 

 

Molaro's words are from a different article, where said article asks if we should be worried about Leonard/Penny.  He responds, "Yes, but in a good way".  The article leaves out the context of THOSE SPECIFIC WORDS, which would change many people's perception of those words if the article had those words in there.

 

Since we have no idea how it's going to play out, either one.

 

Molaro SPECIFICALLY used the words road bumps.  He didn't use the words break up.  Not to mention how is "a break up" going to be something we should be worried about "in a good way"?

 

In laymen's terms, the former is closer to the bulls-eye than the later.

 

Who cares?

 

Obviously the author who purposely phrased the article in such a way where the article would get him more page hits.

[Tensor]

Molaro's words are from a different article, where said article asks if we should be worried about Leonard/Penny.

So? Them splitting was part of the speculation when the original article first appeared. What's the difference now?

 

He responds, "Yes, but in a good way".  The article leaves out the context of THOSE SPECIFIC WORDS, which would change many people's perception of those words if the article had those words in there.

Again, the context was in the original article, but there was still speculation that they would split. Not only that, but YOU stated it was possible for it to mean that they will split:

 

Are you categorically stating that the article completely rules out a breakup?

No, ....  Even though the words "road bumps" are too broad to suggest just one thing, it doesn't categorically rule out the possibility of a break up.  But it also doesn't categorically rule out other possible scenarios either.

So, you've admitted that Molaro's comments allow for a break up, so your claim of anyone misinterpreting the Molaro's comments are bullshit, no matter how much you twist and turn the goalposts. I love how it's OK for you to admit it's possible for them to split, but not OK for others to base their speculation on that.

 

 

 

Molaro

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the later.

Translation: If I don't approve of others interpretations, I will tell them how wrong those interpretations are, even if the interpretations are possible.

Got it. So, until you can show that it is not possible for a split to occur, based on the article (either original or the linked one) any attempt to claim others are wrong to have the interpretation of them splitting is just bullshit.

[meka3000]

So, until you can show that it is not possible for a split to occur, based on the article (either original or the linked one) any attempt to claim others are wrong to have the interpretation of them splitting is just bullshit.

Sigh.....there's a WORLD OF DIFFERENCE between disagreeing with someone's interpretation AND claiming someone's RIGHT TO INTERPRET SOMETHING is wrong that IMO you are clearly not seeing.

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[Tensor]

Sigh.....there's a WORLD OF DIFFERENCE between disagreeing with someone's interpretation AND claiming someone's RIGHT TO INTERPRET SOMETHING is wrong that IMO you are clearly not seeing.

Nice straw man, I said "...claim others are wrong to have the interpretation...", nothing to do with the right to interpret something. Anyone can interpret something however they want, and your interpretation is as viable as the others. You even stated that it was possible for Molaro to mean that they were going to split. You also said it could mean something else. Yet you hammer on those who want to interpret it as a split, when you yourself admit it could be. Interestingly I don't see anyone else hammering on you for your interpretation.

The way someone disagree's with another's interpretations can make a world of difference on how something is seen. Based on my PMs, I'm not the only one not seeing it. There are quite a few other posters that disagree with the same posters you disagree with. For some reason, I'm not getting PMs (hmmmmmm, how to put it politely) about how the other posters sound as if they are claiming the way they look at it is wrong. Mostly it just the others stating their interpretations.

[Tonstar17]

You two need to get a room.

[Carlos]

Hhhhhhmmmm Tonstar, I don't know I seriously doubt it sometimes.

[Nogravitasatall]

So guys. Do you think Leonard & Penny will get married in Vegas? Discuss. ..

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Nup. I hope they have fun and it's warm there, and Penny packed light. But I'd be very sad if they rolled over now and came back married. Why do that? Leonard will have to atone surely, even if Penny is good with forgiving him. I think there will be bruises for a bit. No idea how long, because how long can they play this out? They are losin' daylight. My best hope is they had a good time, but reconsidered the wedding. My worst thought is that they come back resentful, distant from each other and broken.

It also concerns me if they restart from Vegas or three months after. S5 was contiguous with s4. It would be more interesting to watch the aftermath than see any sad story played out in arrears.