Stephen Hawking Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Thanks for that Patsy. I've already got the trolley/cart situation covered.As for "girding your loins", I think I'll be OK running with it.BTW. I think it was one of mine (Affairs of the Heart), with the shopping trolley, but, as they were in London, it's probably forgivable. Supermarkets here have signs saying things like "please return trolleys". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantagrae Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Is the expression "girding your loins" in normal usage, in America?I think it would certainly be used by some people. It's fairly common in a kind of humorous way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denzel Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) I'm annoyed about rated (nG) in FF, as usual the show is all public, as if there is rare explicit suggestions.Also, a lot of persons like to read and write as more mature, it seems really far sometime from the original mood of thinking, that is already tinted. In a book, a novel, sexuality is observed by short pics, it stays unexplicit as if described with details, but when you follow a long story as sitcom, with people you "know" a little bit, with an intrigue about coïtus it can become very complexe in a free field of creation, where neutrality comes rare.I am asking to FFFans and FFWriters their thoughts about sexuality in FF, and how they mean this in comparison to the show.TK Edited August 20, 2015 by Cécile Dull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) If I understand you Cecile, you are asking how we feel about fanfics portraying sexual activity?Personally, I don't have a problem with it, provided it's between consenting adults, and, for the sake of clarity, I do include Sheldon in the term adult. It's can be as hard core as the writer chooses to make it, and it won't offend me.However, I can see how some people might be offended, by the portrayal of extreme sexual activity.Therefore, I think we could probably do with a "Very/Extremely Mature" rating.It's also worth noting that, unlike a movie or a TV show, fanfics are just words on a page. Nobody, not even an actor, is taking part in the (for want of a better word) "perverted" behavior, being portrayed. Edited August 15, 2015 by Stephen Hawking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denzel Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) If I understand you Cecile, you are asking how we feel about fanfics portraying sexual activity?I wasn't on moral or legitimacy conflicts, but on the literary treatment of the scenes, just for that not appear as perversion.I just asked me if someone thought at this specific point. For exemple I notice Stephen King who usualy tries in sex, new things, as fantasy, or an other way to stay 'virgin', he never as I know uses romantic ways as the story is, the scenes deserve the plot.In BBT, we could say that "Penny was gracefully astriding Leonard, she was her warrior princess, as a valkyrie in search of an enemy, or watching for the bell of her mobile phone."But in porn or rated, when you really want a scene, I ask myself, how can it fit with the whole history?(without explain the action) Edited August 15, 2015 by Cécile Dull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karyshamy Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I wasn't on moral or legitimacy conflicts, but on the literary treatment of the scenes, just for that not appear as perversion.I just asked me if someone thought at this specific point. For exemple I notice Stephen King who usualy tries in sex, new things, as fantasy, or an other way to stay 'virgin', he never as I know uses romantic ways as the story is, the scenes deserve the plot.In BBT, we could say that "Penny was gracefully astriding Leonard, she was her warrior princess, as a valkyrie in search of an enemy, or watching for the bell of her mobile phone."But in porn or rated, when you really want a scene, I ask myself, how can it fit with the whole history?(without explain the action)Cécile, some authors do it more gracefully, others prefer a more realistic approach, but either way I think it's much more the author's decision than how it fits or it would fit in the real show. At least when I write I'm taking these characters to myself and I do whatever I want to them. Whether people will like it or not is up to who chose to read it. Of course when we publish something we want it to be read, but I try to write the things I'd like to read in a story, I just love it when I find something funny and I write it, then I receive a review saying that it was funny. That's great. But when it doesn't happen it's ok too.About sex scene, I think it really depends on the writer. Some people have already stated here that they don't feel comfortable about writing them. As there are people who won't feel comfortable in reading them. I usually add an alert at the top of a chapter that includes heavy smut. But as it's already classified as a M rated story, I don't bother too much, because I think the readers are already expecting something like that to happen. If I don't think this kind of scene will fit a story, when I want it to be sweeter or really not the focus, I just rate it T or K and leave these scenes implied.And at least most of us are amateur writers, so I think it's natural that you may not like one or other people's style. There's no classification of author's style, just in the stories, so you'll just find it out by reading them.I don't know if I answered your question, but that's my point of view in that topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 About sex scene, I think it really depends on the writer. Some people have already stated here that they don't feel comfortable about writing them.I must admit, when I wrote my very first fic, I didn't think I could ever write a sex scene.There isn't anything, even remotely resembling one, in my first story.Now, I seldom write a story without one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazelra7 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Is the expression "girding your loins" in normal usage, in America?Never heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denzel Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) I don't know if I answered your question, but that's my point of view in that topic.Ok, you feel this story as shared personal work, maybe in some write there is not a specific attention, it comes as it comes.I never already fall on sex in FF, cause I don't read much, but I see that internet is a place to. I don't criticize I'm not against sex in literature, that happens in life, that happens in fiction, I have not pb with it.You present it more than a 2.0 half confidential sexuality than real 'fiction-aesthetic' as with SH. Edited August 20, 2015 by Cécile Dull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Never heard it.It means to gather your courage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonstar17 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 It doesnt really bother me I will read fics with sex in it but not really a fan of sex in stories. (I'll rather watch porn.) Lol. I would mention or imply that they are or going to do it but I don't feel comfortable writing my fav ship in graphic sexual ways. I can write smut if I wanted to but I will never go there with my OTP. Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karyshamy Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 It doesnt really bother me I will read fics with sex in it but not really a fan of sex in stories. (I'll rather watch porn.) Lol. I would mention or imply that they are or going to do it but I don't feel comfortable writing my fav ship in graphic sexual ways. I can write smut if I wanted to but I will never go there with my OTP. Sent from my SM-N910F using TapatalkFunny thing is that I can only write smut for Shamy, not the other characters. But I really don't know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonstar17 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Funny thing is that I can only write smut for Shamy, not the other characters. But I really don't know why. I never really thought about writing other characters in a sexual way, now you got me thinking. Probably not, but then again I have only written pure L/P fics with little of the gang in them. So I don't know. Maybe you are saving all the smut for your fav couple and I totally get it because I probably will too if I wrote one. Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karyshamy Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I never really thought about writing other characters in a sexual way, now you got me thinking. Probably not, but then again I have only written pure L/P fics with little of the gang in them. So I don't know. Maybe you are saving all the smut for your fav couple and I totally get it because I probably will too if I wrote one. Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalkyeah. I tried once to write Howardette smut but I just gave up and let it be implicit they had sex.I guess when we focus on one of the relationships in a story it make sense to explore that one, and the others be a side story. Then there's no need to write smut for all (LOL) unless you mean to have a fanfic about smut.I never wrote an exclusively Lenny fanfic, when I do it I mix up with Shamy, but I have a plot that I may explore in the future. But I don't know if I'll be able to write smut in that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) Funny thing is that I can only write smut for Shamy, not the other characters. But I really don't know why. I managed to write one Lenny sex scene, but it was only brief and didn't mention their names until they'd finished, as it was meant to trick the readers into thinking it's was the Shamy having sex.Evil aren't I? One quick question, needed for a chapter I'm waiting to publish.Do they sell Hot Dog sausages in jars, in American stores? Edited August 16, 2015 by Stephen Hawking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denzel Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) In the narration of the show, as if it isn't shown there is a sexual hidden topic behind each character, in a novel, no need to close the door.So what is sex for you in an history?1. You can have romantics, that takes the track.2. You can have kisses, and long scenes of closer time.3. And there is explicit scenes I have difficulties to project on BBt.... But this content has to melt a story. Edited August 20, 2015 by Cécile Dull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) Explicit scenes wouldn't bother me, but we're not going to see it on a prime time sitcom.Then again, a scantily clad Amy Farrah Fowler would be a sight to behold. Edited August 17, 2015 by Stephen Hawking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denzel Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) Explicit scenes wouldn't bother me, but we're not going to see it on a prime time sitcom.Then again, a scantily clad Amy Farrah Fowler would be a sight behold. I'm agree with you I would like to see Amy sexy one time, or maybe sexier in the serie, sure she can be a pretty woman. The girlfriends of geeks are really over than sexy. See comic con. Edited August 20, 2015 by Cécile Dull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Duveen Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) I want every couple I write about to be sexy - the only ones I haven't tried from the main couples are Lenny and Rajily - did a bit of Howardette that was fun for a change! The way I see it, they are together because they want and love each other, so they deserve to be written as sexy/smutty if the story allows. Not everyone is comfortable with an M rating, whether that be reading or writing, and that's fine. I hope no-one ever feels that they have to write content they're not happy with because they don't think anyone would read it if they didn't, because they won't enjoy it and it wouldn't be their 'voice', as it were. Edited August 16, 2015 by Bella Duveen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) I really enjoy writing sexy/smutty.It gives me the opportunity, to let my imagination run wild.I just think of the hottest/sexiest thing I can imagine, (if necessary tempering it for the scene I'm writing) occasionally throwing in something embarrassing (I really enjoy exploring embarrassment. It's such a strange human concept), add in the odd bit of personal experience, and write whatever comes into my head.It's worked for me so far. ETA: That girl in the photo from Comic con is smoking hot.Now, if we could just get Amy into an outfit like that. Edited August 16, 2015 by Stephen Hawking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denzel Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) Not everyone is comfortable with an M rating, whether that be reading or writing, and that's fine. I hope no-one ever feels that they have to write content they're not happy with because they don't think anyone would read it if they didn't, because they won't enjoy it and it wouldn't be their 'voice', as it were.There is no history without love or sex, I mean a good film has 3 scenes.At least romance takes a good screening.But you are all right about comfort, this is the more important for writers and readers I think. Edited August 20, 2015 by Cécile Dull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Duveen Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 It's interesting, too to try to get into someone else's emotions and sexuality, especially (I would guess) for men writing about women and vice versa, because there are reactions that they are perhaps less likely to have had themselves or would not express in quite the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 That's very true Bella.I'm obviously guessing, when I describe what a woman feels when she's having an orgasm, because I've obviously never experienced such a thing, just as a female writer has never experience an orgasm like a man would.I've discussed it with my female friends, but their descriptions are, of course, only their interpretations, of their experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denzel Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) It's interesting, too to try to get into someone else's emotions and sexuality, especially (I would guess) for men writing about women and vice versa, because there are reactions that they are perhaps less likely to have had themselves or would not express in quite the same way.It's maybe more easy to cross the roads. If you are a girl you project more on men, and conversely. I at present really ask myself about obese women they said with difficulties to do but they may think at it. Edited August 20, 2015 by Cécile Dull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantagrae Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 It means to gather your courage.It's more about preparing for "battle" or some kind of struggle.The phrase originally came from biblical times, as I understand it, where if someone was going into battle, they'd gather up the lower part of one's robe or tunic and tie it up around ones "loins" in order to be prepared to fight (without getting tangled up.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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