Tensor Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 10 minutes ago, meka3000 said: After some alleged time had passed. She wasn't comfortable sharing that laundry list right away. Also there's nothing there that confirms we saw the sum total of her session with Dr. Gallo. Just what we needed to see in terms of this episode. Your view, not mine, enjoy your view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie3457 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Something I need to get off my chest.....Moses supposes his toeses are roses, but Moses supposes erroneously.....Okay. Thank you..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonstar17 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 As much as I enjoy interacting with other fans and reading everyone's POV, I also find that it makes me enjoy a show a lot less at times. Makes me miss the 90s when I'd just watch an episode, enjoy it and then not give it much more thought. That's because we read too much in to our fav couple and analyse every aspects of their lives. ☺ Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Just now, hokie3457 said: Something I need to get off my chest.....Moses supposes his toeses are roses, but Moses supposes erroneously.....Okay. Thank you..... Ahhhhhhhhh, Donald O'Connor and Gene Kelly, good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Regrets Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Just now, Tonstar17 said: That's because we read too much in to our fav couple and analyse every aspects of their lives. ☺ Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk Oh, I know. We're all guilty of it. Shipping has become really... stressful. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonstar17 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Just now, Tonstar17 said: That's because we read too much in to our fav couple and analyse every aspects of their lives. ☺ Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk Oh, I know. We're all guilty of it. Shipping has become really... stressful. LOL I know right. My life was so much simpler before I became a shipper. Dr Gallo ☺ Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Nothing she said was nothing we already diddnt know. I feel some are over exaggerating here. This is all leading to change in living arrangements. Penny never Said she's unhappy in her marriage. So I think some are over thinking what she said. She never Said why did I marry Leonard. The Therapist queried her. She was put off guard, and was honest, its as simple as that. Theirs no illusion shes still happy MARRIED to Leonard. Shes just frustrated at other aspects to her life. Technically the therapist came to these conclusions. And all Penny said was she misses her life when it was more simple. Considering her current living arrangements, isn't that understandable? I mean Penny even said it helped. It well improove her relationship with Leonard. Nothing she said worried me. Im more intrigued by Why she married Leonard. Penny almost looked bothered that she takes Leonard for granted. I actually some here are jumping to conclusions not PENNY haha. She never actually Said shes unhappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonstar17 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Leonard & Penny. Sort your lives out. ☺. Whitney Houston - I Have Nothing Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminous Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 33 minutes ago, No Regrets said: As much as I enjoy interacting with other fans and reading everyone's POV, I also find that it makes me enjoy a show a lot less at times. Makes me miss the 90s when I'd just watch an episode, enjoy it and then not give it much more thought. Absolutely! I actually enjoyed last weeks episode. But right now my overall enjoyment of the show and especially Lenny has suffered somewhat, because so many Lenny shippers seem to have the blues. One could think Leonard and Penny are on the verge of breaking up. But I will hold on at my glass-half-full attitude. Hope dies last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonstar17 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 33 minutes ago, No Regrets said: As much as I enjoy interacting with other fans and reading everyone's POV, I also find that it makes me enjoy a show a lot less at times. Makes me miss the 90s when I'd just watch an episode, enjoy it and then not give it much more thought. Absolutely! I actually enjoyed last weeks episode. But right now my overall enjoyment of the show and especially Lenny has suffered somewhat, because so many Lenny shippers seem to have the blues. One could think Leonard and Penny are on the verge of breaking up. But I will hold on at my glass-half-full attitude. Hope dies last. Hey.. lol we are just worried. That's all. Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nibbler747 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 1 hour ago, meka3000 said: Your forgetting the nuance of a therapist that asked her this question, a therapist who talked to Leonard and CLEARLY already had a negative opinion about her, when she asked Leonard an unusual favor for her. Now why would she want to talk to her about anything regarding their marriage right away when she's already declaring that she is just like Leonards mother? Again read my previous post. WHO IS ASKING THIS QUESTION OF HER? And for what reason counts for alot. Penny shouldn't be expected to be a robot who answers that question for just anyone. Especially if that person scares the crap out of her by asking what were you thinking in terms of asking Leonard to get her foot in the door with her. I don't think the therapist had a negative opinion of Penny. I think she must have thought it was curious, after Leonard complained about his controlling and unloving mother, that he was prone to being manipulated due to his upbringing. Then when he asked the therapist for this favour, it reads that Penny was manipulating her relationship with Leonard to get what she wanted. She saw that pattern in Leonard - easily controlled by dominating women. So I think it was fair of her to question Penny, on why she was with Leonard. Penny could have listed so many wonderful qualities about Leonard as her reason, but she didn't. Which makes me think she feels a bit guilty in the fact that she DOES sometimes manipulate Leonard to get what she wants. It doesn't mean that she doesn't love Leonard. 36 minutes ago, No Regrets said: As much as I enjoy interacting with other fans and reading everyone's POV, I also find that it makes me enjoy a show a lot less at times. Makes me miss the 90s when I'd just watch an episode, enjoy it and then not give it much more thought. Totally agree. This is why I haven't posted in so long. I felt it was sucking the fun out the show. I'm trying my best to remain spoiler free, so that makes it a little more fun for me to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Just now, luminous said: Absolutely! I actually enjoyed last weeks episode. But right now my overall enjoyment of the show and especially Lenny has suffered somewhat, because so many Lenny shippers seem to have the blues. One could think Leonard and Penny are on the verge of breaking up. But I will hold on at my glass-half-full attitude. Hope dies last. Don't worry luminous, while I can't speak for others, I haven't given up hope. However, with the last episode, I think TPTB are setting up a breakup(alternately, I see them tease the breakup, then cover it up with a pregnancy scare). I'm hoping they don't break them up, and if they don't, I'll be happy. But they like to plant little hints, and that's how I see the Penny comments. I love this couple as no other I've seen on TV. As others have said, I can't see them not finishing the series together, that doesn't mean I have to like the current journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I think the whole thing in Dr Gallo office, with Penny, could be taken several ways, so unless the writers open the box and let us in to know what they meant, we are all wrong and all right at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nibbler747 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 1 minute ago, SRAM said: I think the whole thing in Dr Gallo office, with Penny, could be taken several ways, so unless the writers open the box and let us in to know what they meant, we are all wrong and all right at the same time. Is the cat alive? = ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
910 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tensor said: And yet, they broke up Leonard and Penny; Sheldon and Amy; had Leonard cheat, hold it in for two year, then tell Penny just before they get married. Raj and Penny in bed together; etc. The show has done a lot of drama and stress, in between the comedy. What made early seasons of TBBT so different was it was a comedy where ALL the characters had their quirks, but they were ALL lovable interacting with the world because they had each other to help them through. Any drama was very subtle and spaced out with friends and family members helping them to get through. Four of those "dramas" you reference happened in two episodes (8.24 and 9.1) with no prior indication. It is pitting the characters against each other within their own circle and is no longer funny. Edited January 12, 2016 by Cryptokity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonstar17 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Happy taping and hope there is some lenny development. It's make or break for me. Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwasdestined Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I wish she didn't say what she said and I wish Molaro didn't like writing drama and I wish their engagement season had more engagement and I wish their wedding we better and I wish they were living together away from Sheldon.... BUT..... between the make up of episode 2 and this episode has anything of significance been said or done to she other are not happily married? A genuine question to all. For 10 episodes, regardless of whether it was too much in the background or not, have they said anything or done anything to suggest unhappiness? Cos I can't remember without rewarding them all. They've been together for close to 100 episodes/4 years , survived the drama of bad Valentines Days, premature proposals, all and sundry doubting them, unfounded jealousy and insecurity from both sides, months of separations, career trauma, Sheldons BS, infidelity-lite and surprise marriage to another, and yet here we are with them still together. This is not the first time we have complained about drama and won't be the last. And I assume most of you have continued to ship them through it all. The drama of Lenny threads mirrors the drama of Lenny on screen. I've had enough says someone in Season 5,6,7,8 and now 9. I'm so happy for them says someone in Seasons 5,6,7,8 and 9. Oh no, they're going to break Lenny up says someone in Seasons 5,6,7,8 and now 9. And that's OK. Think what you want. Obama hasn't taken that right away yet! But to me, it's part of the cycle of Lenny, both forum thread and characters, albeit with just a touch more depression than I like to see ( in the thread that is). Will they break up??!? I dunno. It's all differing opinions until it happens. A miracle could happen in the writers roomand for 5 consecutive episodes we could get Season 10 Smallville Lois and Clark ( pre finale) mushy faces and all would be back to how sweet, how beautiful comments.....until Penny says a one liner and we all stress out again. Who knows? Maybe Penny's been reading this thread and dreams of simpler times when Sheldon used to cut her off the internet!! We wait in hope or dread, depending on what we see in the glass sitting on the bar in front of us or the colour of the lenses we are watching through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminous Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 6 hours ago, Tensor said: As others have said, I can't see them not finishing the series together, that doesn't mean I have to like the current journey. I agree. I don't like everything about the current journey too. And yes, there's no scenario in my head, that doesn't see Lenny together at the end of the series. Lenny not together at the end is just outside my imagination. It seems we must accept some chuckholes on the road till we reach the finish line. So it could be an uncomfortable journey at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwasdestined Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, luminous said: I agree. I don't like everything about the current journey too. And yes, there's no scenario in my head, that doesn't see Lenny together at the end of the series. Lenny not together at the end is just outside my imagination. It seems we must accept some chuckholes on the road till we reach the finish line. So it could be an uncomfortable journey at times. As it has been many times over the years. Separated, together, engaged or married, the writers are going to write an uncomfortable journey. It's part of their DNA, like it or not. And we don't have to like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 38 minutes ago, Itwasdestined said: I wish she didn't say what she said and I wish Molaro didn't like writing drama and I wish their engagement season had more engagement and I wish their wedding we better and I wish they were living together away from Sheldon.... BUT..... between the make up of episode 2 and this episode has anything of significance been said or done to she other are not happily married? A genuine question to all. For 10 episodes, regardless of whether it was too much in the background or not, have they said anything or done anything to suggest unhappiness? Cos I can't remember without rewarding them all. They've been together for close to 100 episodes/4 years , survived the drama of bad Valentines Days, premature proposals, all and sundry doubting them, unfounded jealousy and insecurity from both sides, months of separations, career trauma, Sheldons BS, infidelity-lite and surprise marriage to another, and yet here we are with them still together. This is not the first time we have complained about drama and won't be the last. And I assume most of you have continued to ship them through it all. The drama of Lenny threads mirrors the drama of Lenny on screen. I've had enough says someone in Season 5,6,7,8 and now 9. I'm so happy for them says someone in Seasons 5,6,7,8 and 9. Oh no, they're going to break Lenny up says someone in Seasons 5,6,7,8 and now 9. And that's OK. Think what you want. Obama hasn't taken that right away yet! But to me, it's part of the cycle of Lenny, both forum thread and characters, albeit with just a touch more depression than I like to see ( in the thread that is). Will they break up??!? I dunno. It's all differing opinions until it happens. A miracle could happen in the writers roomand for 5 consecutive episodes we could get Season 10 Smallville Lois and Clark ( pre finale) mushy faces and all would be back to how sweet, how beautiful comments.....until Penny says a one liner and we all stress out again. Who knows? Maybe Penny's been reading this thread and dreams of simpler times when Sheldon used to cut her off the internet!! We wait in hope or dread, depending on what we see in the glass sitting on the bar in front of us or the colour of the lenses we are watching through. I rather they be like Monica and Chandler. Deal with things individually as a couple. But become stronger. Penny can go shoot a movie to get it out of her system. But this show has always broken down tropes. I dont want another "I got off the plane!!"'. As it is Penny has not dumped Leonard since s3. Nearly s6 but she diddnt. Maybe Lenny neeed to do something to find a old spark. Go on a honeymoon or vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 18 minutes ago, luminous said: I agree. I don't like everything about the current journey too. And yes, there's no scenario in my head, that doesn't see Lenny together at the end of the series. Lenny not together at the end is just outside my imagination. It seems we must accept some chuckholes on the road till we reach the finish line. So it could be an uncomfortable journey at times. I don't need another uncomfortable journey. I had one from 3.19 to 6.02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminous Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, Tensor said: I don't need another uncomfortable journey. I had one from 3.19 to 6.02. Yeah, but the writers seem to like it to send us on uncomfortable journeys. To be honest I'm a bit afraid to read the next taping report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 No Lenny in the taping. They were in scene. But more props to meeting Meemaw. Sounds to me its a Ahem Episode haha. Prob a good thing. If Penny even twitches her eye ppl.around here Go Ohhhh the Horror :D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 You don't have to be. It was a Shamy episode. They were in, but in the background. They were there when Sheldon opened the letter from his meemaw, they met meemaw andd she was chummy with Penny. Penny commented to Leonard that her grandma smoked and and ate the ashes, and they went with Sheldon to see meemaw again when he defends Amy to meemaw (meemaw is mad at Amy for breaking Sheldon's heart for six months). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Lets face it not a one off ep. Continuation ala Lenny background. But hey it is what it is. Cant go back now, that bridge is long broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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