Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 9

[Judith]

5 minutes ago, Riley7 said:

Alright.. firtly Happy Anniversary all you awesome nerds!

I don't know about you guys but I'm already missing the show.. soo.. let's make this interesting.

Answer these questions.. if you feel like it of course :

 

1. When, according to you, did Sheldon fall in love with Amy?

2. Amy's called Sheldon brilliant and a genius plenty of time. How many times has Sheldon complimented Amy on her intelligence?

3. Would you rather have the coitus or living arrangements settled in S10?

 

1. I think he fell in love with her pretty early on the show. My memory on season 4 episodes is extremely fuzzy but IIRC the Zazzy Substitution and the episode where Sheldon gets jealous of Zack  were two of the first ones with Amy. So, I would say that when they met, she managed to draw his attention, then over the next four months where they talked via phone/internet he started falling in love with her as much as someone can do that through these means and when they finally started seeing each other regularly the feeling solidified.

2. I really don't know. I remember that he has made comments about her intelligence  but I've no idea how many times.

3. The answer is obvious: coitus all the way.

[Jonny]

17 hours ago, Riley7 said:

Alright.. firstly Happy Anniversary all you awesome nerds!

I don't know about you guys but I'm already missing the show.. soo.. let's make this interesting.

Answer these questions.. if you feel like it of course :

 

1. When, according to you, did Sheldon fall in love with Amy?

2. Amy's called Sheldon brilliant and a genius plenty of time. How many times has Sheldon complimented Amy on her intelligence?

3. Would you rather have the coitus or living arrangements settled in S10?

 

1. I think it's very tricky to give an exact answer as Sheldon is pretty guarded when it comes to emotions and feelings. I think we saw signs it was heading that way earlier but the obvious answer is the prom episode. I think it's likely it developed before then but that was when Sheldon revealed it. People may have seen it far earlier than me.

2. I think he's complimented her intelligence a lot, early on in their relationship he purely called it a relationship of the mind and for someone like Sheldon who thinks he is smarter then everyone else that says a lot.

3. Probably the most easiest one to answer, I would say if they are the only two options I would go further development of their sex life over living arrangements. But I would probably take an engagement over both, especially if it's clear sex doesn't always have to be this big event thing for Shamy and they treat it as a normal couple thing. Who knows it may be revealed they have done it since opening night it's just become not that a big deal and normal, actually I think that's what I would do if I was the writers.

Edited May 25, 2016 by Jonny83

[Stephen Hawking]

Mayim bialik currently has 49% of the vote. 

Come on guys, let's make it a nice round 50%.  

[April]

2 hours ago, Riley7 said:

Alright.. firstly Happy Anniversary all you awesome nerds!

I don't know about you guys but I'm already missing the show.. soo.. let's make this interesting.

Answer these questions.. if you feel like it of course :

That sounds fun! :D

2 hours ago, Riley7 said:

1. When, according to you, did Sheldon fall in love with Amy?

Sometimes I'm tempted to say it was "love at first sight" with Sheldon being completely oblivious to his own feelings. (And I don't even believe in "love at first sight") But damn, he was crushing hard on her almost immediately. She basically had him at:

• Amy: Now, before this goes any further, you should know that all forms of physical contact up to and including coitus are off the table.
• Sheldon: Challenge accepted! May I buy you a beverage?

I mean, the following 4 weeks they were communicating with each other daily and even though Sheldon was in denial about his affection he was going mad when they "broke up" - and that was only the third episode we ever saw Amy in. lol

But think it took a long time to blossom into a more romantic deep love and I'd say it wasn't until somewhen between the train trip and prom that he would admit it to himself (and her, eventually).

2 hours ago, Riley7 said:

2. Amy's called Sheldon brilliant and a genius plenty of time. How many times has Sheldon complimented Amy on her intelligence?

I don't know about how many times and in what words but he clearly admires her intellect. Even as late as 9x09 he's complimenting her when she's giving a good answer in their little game and the plot in 9x20 is basically kicked off because of a scientific article about improving one's cognitive capabilities by going off the grid that Amy send him so they still share that common interest in science and I'm sure their "relationship of the mind" is still going strong even though we might not necessarily see much of it these days with all the relationship/character development centric stories.

I do think though he's a bit miffed she's wasting her time with icky biology nonsense. LOL

2 hours ago, Riley7 said:

3. Would you rather have the coitus or living arrangements settled in S10?

Coitus. Or rather "physical intimacy" in general. Like, I don't even care about how the writers approach it or if Shamy even end up in bed again but I want them to talk about it and be on the same page. This kind of uncertainty is the most annoying part and those "flirty Amy - oblivious Sheldon" jokes don't really help here at all. It points to a communication issue between the two and that's what I want to have sorted out - preferably long before 10x11!

I can deal with the living arrangements taking a bit longer if the writers at least do something interesting with it. The first time it seriously came up was after Lenny got engaged, then again after Lenny got married and now that they're renewing their vows maybe it'll come up again and third time is the charm! I wouldn't mind if they take a gradual approach with maybe even some renovations subplot thrown in - as long as they actually follow through with it this time!

[Carm6773]

4 hours ago, Riley7 said:

Alright.. firstly Happy Anniversary all you awesome nerds!

I don't know about you guys but I'm already missing the show.. soo.. let's make this interesting.

Answer these questions.. if you feel like it of course :

 

1. When, according to you, did Sheldon fall in love with Amy?

2. Amy's called Sheldon brilliant and a genius plenty of time. How many times has Sheldon complimented Amy on her intelligence?

3. Would you rather have the coitus or living arrangements settled in S10?

 

1. I think it was Pulled Groin... She is not for you!    

2. Sheldon is complimenting Amy's intelligence when he calls her a Vixen, IMHO.

3.  Can we have both??  I'm Shamy greedy...

[Kathy2611]

4 hours ago, Riley7 said:

 

1. When, according to you, did Sheldon fall in love with Amy?

 

 

Like April, I think he started falling for her that day.  He just didn't realize what those feelings were at the time or for a long time after that.  I think he actually started realizing it before "Date Night" (6:1) but still couldn't figure out "what" it was he was feeling exactly and I think it was literally scaring the shit out of him which would explain his meanness towards her at times.

4 hours ago, Riley7 said:

 

2. Amy's called Sheldon brilliant and a genius plenty of time. How many times has Sheldon complimented Amy on her intelligence?

 

  He told Leonard she's brilliant in Flaming Spittoon and I'm sure other times as well.  Just don't feel like looking it up now.

4 hours ago, Riley7 said:

 

3. Would you rather have the coitus or living arrangements settled in S10?

 

They both have to be settled.  There's no either or on this.  Both.  Simple as that.  And preferably the first half of Season 10, not the second half.

[Tensor]

3 hours ago, Judith said:

1. I think he fell in love with her pretty early on the show. My memory on season 4 episodes is extremely fuzzy but IIRC the Zazzy Substitution and the episode where Sheldon gets jealous of Zack  were two of the first ones with Amy. So, I would say that when they met, she managed to draw his attention, then over the next four months where they talked via phone/internet he started falling in love with her as much as someone can do that through these means and when they finally started seeing each other regularly the feeling solidified.

2. I really don't know. I remember that he has made comments about her intelligence  but I've no idea how many times.

3. The answer is obvious: coitus all the way.

I think it would have to have been after 4.05 The Desperation Emanation.  There he panics when Amy wants him to meet her mother and tries to pass off Amy to Leonard.   In 4.10 The Alien Parasite Hypothesis, Sheldon didn't get jealous of Zack.  He tried to set up Amy, with Zack, for coitus to relieve her urges.  By 4.20 The Herb Garden Germination and 4.21The Agreement Dissection I thought it obvious that he had some sort of feelings for her in his willingness to forgive her for the drunk kiss(reset the relationship) and his obvious enjoyment of planning the rumors with her.  

[Kathy2611]

14 minutes ago, Tensor said:

I think it would have to have been after 4.05 The Desperation Emanation.  There he panics when Amy wants him to meet her mother and tries to pass off Amy to Leonard.   In 4.10 The Alien Parasite Hypothesis, Sheldon didn't get jealous of Zack.  He tried to set up Amy, with Zack, for coitus to relieve her urges.  By 4.20 The Herb Garden Germination and 4.21The Agreement Dissection I thought it obvious that he had some sort of feelings for her in his willingness to forgive her for the drunk kiss(reset the relationship) and his obvious enjoyment of planning the rumors with her.  

Actually he did get jeoulous and he left to "eat his lunch at home" when she called him out on it.

Amy: Is it possible that your concern for me at this moment is motivated by nothing more than simple jealousy?

Sheldon: I hadn’t considered that. Give me a moment. All right, I’ve considered it.

Amy: And?

Sheldon: I reject it.

Amy: You reject it because you don’t feel jealousy, or because you are suppressing jealousy?

Sheldon: I think I’ll eat my lunch at home.

Amy: That’s not your lunch, Sheldon, those are the cadaver brain specimens.

Sheldon: Oh. As they were incorrectly sliced, you can see how I could mistake them for my sashimi.

[Tensor]

1 minute ago, Kathy2611 said:

Actually he did get jeoulous and he left to "eat his lunch at home" when she called him out on it.

Amy: Is it possible that your concern for me at this moment is motivated by nothing more than simple jealousy?

Sheldon: I hadn’t considered that. Give me a moment. All right, I’ve considered it.

Amy: And?

Sheldon: I reject it.

Amy: You reject it because you don’t feel jealousy, or because you are suppressing jealousy?

Sheldon: I think I’ll eat my lunch at home.

Amy: That’s not your lunch, Sheldon, those are the cadaver brain specimens.

Sheldon: Oh. As they were incorrectly sliced, you can see how I could mistake them for my sashimi.

Ahhhhh , thank you.  Then him calling Zack to have coitus with her is expression of his caring for Amy?

[x~Jess~x]

4 hours ago, Riley7 said:

Alright.. firstly Happy Anniversary all you awesome nerds!

I don't know about you guys but I'm already missing the show.. soo.. let's make this interesting.

Answer these questions.. if you feel like it of course :

 

1. When, according to you, did Sheldon fall in love with Amy?

2. Amy's called Sheldon brilliant and a genius plenty of time. How many times has Sheldon complimented Amy on her intelligence?

3. Would you rather have the coitus or living arrangements settled in S10?

 

1. This one is difficult to pinpoint... I think everyone has their own opinions on when he started falling for her, and there's not really a definitive answer as I don't even think Sheldon realised when he first fell in love with her. Saying that, there are definitely some moments that stand out... in The Zazzy Substitution when he started replacing her with cats, in The Alien Parasite Hypothesis and his jealously over Zack, The Pulled Groin Extrapolation and his jealousy over Leonard, The Flaming Spittoon Acquisition and his jealousy over Stuart, (I'm starting to sense a theme here...) in The Launch Acceleration when he couldn't stop thinking about her... ok, ok, you get the picture lol.

2. Well, I could go look this up, but it's 00:14am here so I think I'm just going to be lazy and skip this one lol. He has definitely complimented her intelligence before though.

3. Hmm... well, both are pretty important issues, and are going to need to be sorted out at some point, but I think the main issue here is the question mark surrounding coitus. We need to know what's going on here. And most importantly, so do they. They need to have an honest conversation with each other, and soon. The longer this drags on, the harder it'll be to resolve... Or, if the writers didn't want to do that, then we could just find out that they've been doing it all along. Problem solved. The trouble is we just don't know, and it's driving us all mad wondering!

...But anyway, happy Shamy-versary guys <3

[Jonny]

I think it's pretty obvious he developed feelings for her early on but love is a different kettle of fish imo I think that has taken some time to fully develop. I would imagine a) that the feelings were probably very confusing for him and b. he was probably in a constant battle to try and resist them until he clearly let them in eventually.

I could just imagine Sheldon doing something similar to what Amy did in the Alien Parasite Hypothesis he probably wrote down all his feelings and then ruled out possible medical conditions one by one  lol. He did mention a possible parasite in the prom episode which was probably a small nod to that earlier episode with Amy lol

[serena_1995]

On 5/23/2016 at 10:50 PM, Judith said:

A reminder to vote for Shamy here:

http://thebestpoll.com/the-best-tv-couples-of-all-time/

They're slowly going up, right now their no17 but they can do much better! And they're only one vote ahead of Meredith and Derek (*barf*).

Here' s another poll:

http://telltaletv.com/2016/05/vote-for-your-favorites-the-2016-tell-tale-tv-awards-final-round/

You can vote for TBBT, Jim, Mayim, Kaley and Shamy.

And because navigating the site from your phone is a pain in the ass, here are Jim, Mayim and Kaley:

http://telltaletv.com/2016/05/vote-for-your-favorites-the-2016-tell-tale-tv-awards-final-round/2/

And Shamy:

http://telltaletv.com/2016/05/vote-for-your-favorites-the-2016-tell-tale-tv-awards-final-round/3/

Do you know when the voting closes and the results are revealed for the best couple of all time poll ?

[Judith]

7 minutes ago, serena_nyc1995 said:

Do you know when the voting closes and the results are revealed for the best couple of all time poll ?

No idea. I looked but I don't see a date anywhere.

But since you mentioned it...GO VOTE PEOPLE!!! We went up one place (16) already!

[serena_1995]

I think Sheldon fell in love with Amy, during the zazzy substitution episode-he wanted her to be in his life- but officially, I'm gonna go with the Prom episode. I don't know if he has recently complimented Amy on her intelligence, but during season 4 he was impressed by her intelligence in almost every episode they had any interaction. And I want them to resolve the question about their sex life in season 10, more than living arrangements coz I want them to be on the same page- either make them both indifferent to sex or let them have a normal sex life without making a big fuss.

Does anyone have any guesses as to when Amy first fell in love with Sheldon ? 

Edited May 25, 2016 by serena_nyc1995

[PatsyR]

I think Amy fell in love with Sheldon when he interrupted her date with Stuart in Flaming Spittoon. 

[serena_1995]

I can't pinpoint any moment where Amy fell in love with him, but  in season 6, she shows Penny a pic of Sheldon and says "How can any one spend a day with him and not fall in love with that face ? "- Amy was being paranoid/jealous about Alex, so maybe she was already in love with Sheldon at that point because she used the word 'love'.

Edited May 25, 2016 by serena_nyc1995

[rachelshamyfan]

The discussion thread has become quite toxic recently, even more so than usual

 

But anyway

 

I am excited for future shamy development

[mirs1]

Ok, my turn...

1) I think Sheldon felt something "special" for Amy from the very beginning, or he wouldn't have had the crazy reaction he got in The Zazzy Substitution (I mean...25 cats, with a "powerful smell" everywhere in his own room...) He wasn't aware of what that feeling was, he just knew he was scared by it and had a very long denial phase, and his attempt to set her up with Leonard when she wanted him to meet his mother or the episode with Zach express his fears. Anyway, he knew he wanted Amy in his life and tried at his best to be a good friend first and a boyfriend later. I think  he realized what that feeling was, or at least stopped fighting it, during the train trip and then he was comfortable in admitting it.

2) Well, Sheldon appreciated Amy's intelligence in front of her in The Herb Garden Germination "Look at me, getting me to engage in the social science, you're a vixen AFF!"; he also phrased her many times in front of his friends, for example, all the gang in 4.1, saying that their DNA combined has the potential to create benign overlords to guide  humanity, Leonard in 5.10 (he called her a"distinguished neurobiologist") and in 5.23 ("what has that vixen done to me", referring to her social experiment, and hence to her ability and cleverness in designing it). TBH, he has often been dismissive about her field of interest, but I guess it's just repellence for "yucky squishy things" rather than an opinion about Amy's cleverness in it.

3) From a Shamy PoV, I think "coitus" is the first thing I would like to see addressed. I would like it would make clear in the show that they are on the same page emotionally and physically (whatever that page is). A change in the LA is very important, anyway, in the sense that the situation is not believable anymore and it is somehow damaging the show as a whole. So I guess I would like them to be addressed, too, possibly in the first half of S. 10. But if I have to pick one, it's coitus.

[April]

8 hours ago, Tensor said:

Ahhhhh , thank you.  Then him calling Zack to have coitus with her is expression of his caring for Amy?

Yes, in a weird way it is. It's a slice of both "I want my beloved to be happy" selflessness and "I want my smart Amy back" selfishness. I mean, the guy is complicated and surely was in no condition to help her personally, but he's still trying and the logical conclusion to Amy's dilemma of being aroused by Zack is to have him satisfying her needs. lol

4 hours ago, serena_nyc1995 said:

Does anyone have any guesses as to when Amy first fell in love with Sheldon ? 

I also think with Amy it's so much harder to tell. First of all, she was a brand new character. With Sheldon we already knew him for a few years and have seen him with various "love interests" in that they were interested in him but he didn't care one bit. So when he goes completely bonkers over this new girl you know something is up and the guy has a bad case of butterflies in his stomach (even though he'd deny it at every turn for years). But we don't really know much about how early!Amy's behaviour might be different with Sheldon specifically to pinpoint the impact he made. So with that her affection and love for Sheldon feels like it's growing more gradually.

While he was turning into a crazy cat lady after their "break up" she still looked rather indifferent. When they trick her mother into thinking Sheldon is her boyfriend and they have lots of sex she's again rather stoic. And while taking Zack's hand gave her a satisfying "hoo" moment her hand holding experiment with Sheldon did nothing for her. I think Herb Garden and Agreement Dissection may have been key moments when we actually get to see some infatuation towards Sheldon from her (most obviously when she's kissing him). Is it love already? Hard to tell. But her feelings for him grow steadily and I also think by S6 it's save to say she loves him.

That gradual development of her feelings makes a lot of sense for her though. Sheldon was the first real friend she had after years and years of disappointments so I'd think she was still very guarded at first cause she didn't know where this would lead and took not only Sheldon's influence but also the girls to have her come out of her shell. It's only then that she lets her guard down more and really dives into this "new lifestyle" with a boyfriend and friends and all that.

[joyceraye]

7 hours ago, serena_nyc1995 said:

 

Does anyone have any guesses as to when Amy first fell in love with Sheldon ? 

With hindsight I think the efforts Amy made to get invited to that first girls' night, virtually gatecrashing, show there was something going on. She had recently joined a social group which was otherwise all male and you'd think if she wanted to be in a female one next she'd look for one where she was involved in her hobbies. So why Penny and Bernadette all of a sudden  ? I'd say she was starting to fall for Sheldon by then. Consciously or not she saw what this man's friends were attracted to and decided to try to become one of them.

[Jonny]

Again like Sheldon it's difficult to pinpoint an exact moment for Amy because they are just not that conventional, traditional romance that you usually see on television or even in everyday life. She had feelings for him very early on but love is a bigger all-encompassing thing entirely.

I think it probably happened maybe at the very end of Season 5 with the launch of Howard into space and that moment Sheldon held Amy's hand, the gazing look in her eyes as she stared at him said a lot.

The you had a clear ramping up of date nights etc and spending more time together going into Season 6. Amy said to Penny that she and Sheldon were going to get married in 4 years time so she was thinking one day I am going to marry this guy perhaps an indication of love. When Sheldon hired Alex as his assistant Amy got pretty jealous so much so that she marked his office with her scent lol and then there was the moment with Sheldon's picture on her phone and the word love mentioned. Sheldon then changed his contact details to Amy as a valentines gift which really moved Amy a lot. 

But like Sheldon she didn't declare her love in an obvious way until the Prom episode in Season 8. After that it was extremely obvious that both loved each other as you saw with Amy's Victorian Christmas themed episode.

Edited May 25, 2016 by Jonny83

[rachelshamyfan]

I think she may of started to have love feeling around the time of the drunken kiss that she couldn't remember

 

Sheldon definitely had strong feelings for her in zazzy, you don't terminate a friendship relationship after a minor argument

 

Otherwise he'd be doing the same thing with Leonard Howard and Raj

[Stephen Hawking]

20 hours ago, April said:

But think it took a long time to blossom into a more romantic deep love and I'd say it wasn't until somewhere between the train trip and prom that he would admit it to himself (and her, eventually).this time!

Two things strike me as indicating Sheldon was really in love with Amy.

1. The karate chop he gave to Leonard, when he thought Leonard and Amy had sex.

2. The way he obsessed, about Amy and Stuart going on a date together.

20 hours ago, April said:

BTW. I love this gif.

It's so cute, and she looks so beautiful.

[Jonny]

11 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said:

Two things strike me as indicating Sheldon was really in love with Amy.

1. The karate chop he gave to Leonard, when he thought Leonard and Amy had sex.

2. The way he obsessed, about Amy and Stuart going on a date together.

BTW. I love this gif.

It's so cute, and she looks so beautiful.

Yeah I took the chop as a clear indication he had feelings for her, whether it was something as deep as love that early on who knows.

[Stephen Hawking]

16 hours ago, Judith said:

But since you mentioned it...GO VOTE PEOPLE!!! We went up one place (16) already!

And Mayim is at 50% of the vote. 

10 hours ago, April said:

Sheldon was the first real friend she had after years and years of disappointments so I'd think she was still very guarded at first cause she didn't know where this would lead.

That brings to mind an important incident in Season 5.

From The Weekend Vortex:-

Amy: Not just my first boyfriend, he’s the best boyfriend. I mean, think about it. I’m dating Sheldon Cooper.

She describes him as the BEST boyfriend, which suggests he's really important and special to her.

Edited May 25, 2016 by Stephen Hawking