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Thank you.  I'd like to add on...

Amy and Sheldon opened each other to things they had never experienced or felt before.   Amy knows what's it's like now to be kissed.   She's curious and less inhibited now.   Sheldon now knows what it's like to have the companionship of a woman.  

Just because they don't have it with each other anymore doesn't mean that the desire to have these things just goes away.   The desire is still there to be filled.   Hence, Amy allowing a guy to kiss her and Sheldon's need to find a new girlfriend, not necessarily to jump into bed with, but to keep him company.  

After seeing your post, I finally find out exactly what bothers me for two days.

Before Sheldon and Amy are together, Amy has showed her desires, such as the need to find a boyfriend, physical contact, kissing and coitus. So when they break up, I'm not surprised her kissing Dave. Even though I'm bothered by that kiss, at least it is IC.

On the other hand, I always thought Sheldon didn't have these desires. He found companionship of a woman, handholding, kissing, etc ridiculous. It was only until he met Amy, he began to accept and love these things.

So to me, he still doesn't love these things in general. He's only OK with doing them with Amy. If it was another woman, he would still find them ridiculous and be disgusted.

However after 908, Sheldon just becomes a regular guy. He has the desire to find another girlfriend because the old one broke up with him. So maybe he will also have the desire to kiss and have coitus with a woman. And if that's true, what's so unique about Shamy anyway? They're just another couple on TV. Give it time, maybe Amy will go on and sleep with a random guy, or maybe after they get married, Sheldon will cheat on Amy, who knows.

 

 

 
 
 
 
 
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But there is no relationship at all right now, not even a friendship one, which Lenny did maintain during their break-up(s).

So Lenny's endgame was always in sight, Shamy's endgame has dissapeared beyond the horizon.

You make a good point but again, Sheldon and Amy are different people than Leonard and Penny. Penny didn't have to deal with Leonard behaving in a Sheldon-like manner or vice versa. It was easier for them to be friends and move on.

Sheldon's approach, even though it came from the fact that he clearly loves Amy, was not the right approach unfortunately and it created more of a mess. Once he learns to be respectful enough to follow Amy's wishes, for starters, then things will change.

They were able to have an adult conversation on the stairwell with no issues because even while tipsy, he was being mature, calm and accepting of the situation. That's how it works.

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You make a good point but again, Sheldon and Amy are different people than Leonard and Penny. Penny didn't have to deal with Leonard behaving in a Sheldon-like manner or vice versa. It was easier for them to be friends and move on.

Sheldon's approach, even though it came from the fact that he clearly loves Amy, was not the right approach unfortunately and it created more of a mess. Once he learns to be respectful enough to follow Amy's wishes, for starters, then things will change.

They were able to have an adult conversation on the stairwell with no issues because even while tipsy, he was being mature, calm and accepting of the situation. That's how it works.

He's been following Amy's wishes since episode 3. She has been given space to think about what she wants.
And based on what we have seen and heard so far after episode 2, she wants to move on and date other people.

I have seen no sign she wants to (try) reconcile with Sheldon and work things out.

Ok...change of topic......Teller was on the set today....just for laughs....

What if he was magically going to help Shamy reunite!  :laugh: 

Who is he? I've seen several of the cast/crew post about it, but I have no idea...

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He's been following Amy's wishes since episode 3. She has been given space to think about what she wants.And based on what we have seen and heard so far after episode 2, she wants to move on and date other people.

I have seen no sign she wants to (try) reconcile with Sheldon and work things out.

Who is he? I've seen several of the cast/crew post about it, but I have no idea...

There is a magic team here in the US named Penn and Teller (he is the Teller part of the duo).  He never speaks in the act.  But they perform magic routines.  They also had a show where they judged budding magicians here called  Fool Us where they wanted magicians to fool them.   But Penn and Teller are huge in Las Vegas...most people that travel to Vegas to vacation also try to catch their magic acts.

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Bill's tweet said that Teller watched a runthru, so the table read must have been Wed as normal.

Sometimes a table read is called a run-through...because that is what you are doing...running through the entire script... :girlwink:   But also they do often do a first pass rehearsal on table read days...it isn't unusual.  They could have done the table read yesterday, but based on IG posts, it appeared more like it was done today.

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After seeing your post, I finally find out exactly what bothers me for two days.

Before Sheldon and Amy are together, Amy has showed her desires, such as the need to find a boyfriend, physical contact, kissing and coitus. So when they break up, I'm not surprised her kissing Dave. Even though I'm bothered by that kiss, at least it is IC.

On the other hand, I always thought Sheldon didn't have these desires. He found companionship of a woman, handholding, kissing, etc ridiculous. It was only until he met Amy, he began to accept and love these things.

So to me, he still doesn't love these things in general. He's only OK with doing them with Amy. If it was another woman, he would still find them ridiculous and be disgusted.

However after 908, Sheldon just becomes a regular guy. He has the desire to find another girlfriend because the old one broke up with him. So maybe he will also have the desire to kiss and have coitus with a woman. And if that's true, what's so unique about Shamy anyway? They're just another couple on TV. Give it time, maybe Amy will go on and sleep with a random guy, or maybe after they get married, Sheldon will cheat on Amy, who knows.

 

 

 
 
 
 
 

Not gonna lie, I'll be very uncomfortable in watching 9.8 for all the reasons you said. I've decided to not complain any more about the directions of the show (even if right now, I'm just complaining) because there's nothing I can do about them and to watch what's going to happen, hoping for the best. Another reason for my suspension of disbelief is that all this season I've found the actual episodes way better than what I thought from the spoilers and I enjoyed some of them, even in the angst. Just to clarify, I like spoilers and I'm deeply grateful to everyone is providing them, it's just me...I'm a "dramatic" person and I have a "dramatic" imagination, so I always consider in my mind the worst scenario possible from the few hints I get from the taping reports, but really I appreciate what the people going to the tapings do for our community!

Anyway, as you said, it is much more OOC for Sheldon than for Amy to date somebody else. His reaction in the premiere "I'm done with women" was what I expected from him...Asking women out or actively searching a new girlfriend is unexpected. That's why, IMO, they went much lighter with Sheldon than with Amy. Sheldon's date, as a matter of fact, consists in him asking Raj and Howard to find him somebody (this is huge, of course...) and in just one scene with the girl, after which he behaves like...him again. I don't know where this will lead, but I find they are changing Sheldon's character much faster than they used to do, even before this season started. The sleepover was huge. The ring in the finale was huger...Never in 8 years (with the only possible exception of him being vaguely excited by the possibility of having alien children) he showed an interest in family and marriage, and then suddenly he had a ring...Then in this season, there was the Shenny kiss (it was a dream, but it gave the opportunity of seeing another side of the character), all the sexual innuendos (which continue also in 9.5, think to the conversation with Leonard on the stairs), him asking the two women out, the meltdown and now this last episode...I don't know where this is going, I'm dreading a TR someday about a "proper" date for Sheldon, with him bringing roses and chocolate to his lady,  taking her in a nice restaurant and so on!!! But, as I said, I'm a dramatic person. What's sure is that, even if I have to admit the writers are good in making his changes kind of organic,  the character is right now not developing like a paint dry, as Lorre used to say, but at warp speed!

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Not gonna lie, I'll be very uncomfortable in watching 9.8 for all the reasons you said. I've decided to not complain any more about the directions of the show (even if right now, I'm just complaining) because there's nothing I can do about them and to watch what's going to happen, hoping for the best. Another reason for my suspension of disbelief is that all this season I've found the actual episodes way better than what I thought from the spoilers and I enjoyed some of them, even in the angst. Just to clarify, I like spoilers and I'm deeply grateful to everyone is providing them, it's just me...I'm a "dramatic" person and I have a "dramatic" imagination, so I always consider in my mind the worst scenario possible from the few hints I get from the taping reports, but really I appreciate what the people going to the tapings do for our community!

Anyway, as you said, it is much more OOC for Sheldon than for Amy to date somebody else. His reaction in the premiere "I'm done with women" was what I expected from him...Asking women out or actively searching a new girlfriend is unexpected. That's why, IMO, they went much lighter with Sheldon than with Amy. Sheldon's date, as a matter of fact, consists in him asking Raj and Howard to find him somebody (this is huge, of course...) and in just one scene with the girl, after which he behaves like...him again. I don't know where this will lead, but I find they are changing Sheldon's character much faster than they used to do, even before this season started. The sleepover was huge. The ring in the finale was huger...Never in 8 years (with the only possible exception of him being vaguely excited by the possibility of having alien children) he showed an interest in family and marriage, and then suddenly he had a ring...Then in this season, there was the Shenny kiss (it was a dream, but it gave the opportunity of seeing another side of the character), all the sexual innuendos (which continue also in 9.5, think to the conversation with Leonard on the stairs), him asking the two women out, the meltdown and now this last episode...I don't know where this is going, I'm dreading a TR someday about a "proper" date for Sheldon, with him bringing roses and chocolate to his lady,  taking her in a nice restaurant and so on!!! But, as I said, I'm a dramatic person. What's sure is that, even if I have to admit the writers are good in making his changes kind of organic,  the character is right now not developing like a paint dry, as Lorre used to say, but at warp speed!

Why would Sheldon bring roses and chocolate to some random woman?  Just because he was with Amy for five years doesn't mean he knows anything about romance.  I think that he still doesn't get it in regards to romance or how to accomplish it.

if he didn't understand romance with Amy, who he knows really well, if he were to do anything conventionally "romantic", it would likely be because Raj or Howard or Leonard told him to, not because he cares.

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I don't understand why it is natural for Amy to kiss another man and it is unnatural for Sheldon to ask for help to find another girlfriend - moreover, even if he's obviously looking for a girlfriend, he hadn't had a date on the contrary of Amy who already had 3 different dates and even reached " date 3 " with Dave.

 

Let's remember that at the end of season 3, and up until late Season 4, Amy was a female version of Sheldon. She didn't want a romantic relationship, all kind of physical contact was " off the table ".

Of course, she has changed. A lot.

 

But why would it be OK for Amy to change so much so that she goes from " physical contact off the table " to wanting coitus and why wouldn't it be OK for Sheldon?

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Not gonna lie, I'll be very uncomfortable in watching 9.8 for all the reasons you said. I've decided to not complain any more about the directions of the show (even if right now, I'm just complaining) because there's nothing I can do about them and to watch what's going to happen, hoping for the best. Another reason for my suspension of disbelief is that all this season I've found the actual episodes way better than what I thought from the spoilers and I enjoyed some of them, even in the angst. Just to clarify, I like spoilers and I'm deeply grateful to everyone is providing them, it's just me...I'm a "dramatic" person and I have a "dramatic" imagination, so I always consider in my mind the worst scenario possible from the few hints I get from the taping reports, but really I appreciate what the people going to the tapings do for our community!

Anyway, as you said, it is much more OOC for Sheldon than for Amy to date somebody else. His reaction in the premiere "I'm done with women" was what I expected from him...Asking women out or actively searching a new girlfriend is unexpected. That's why, IMO, they went much lighter with Sheldon than with Amy. Sheldon's date, as a matter of fact, consists in him asking Raj and Howard to find him somebody (this is huge, of course...) and in just one scene with the girl, after which he behaves like...him again. I don't know where this will lead, but I find they are changing Sheldon's character much faster than they used to do, even before this season started. The sleepover was huge. The ring in the finale was huger...Never in 8 years (with the only possible exception of him being vaguely excited by the possibility of having alien children) he showed an interest in family and marriage, and then suddenly he had a ring...Then in this season, there was the Shenny kiss (it was a dream, but it gave the opportunity of seeing another side of the character), all the sexual innuendos (which continue also in 9.5, think to the conversation with Leonard on the stairs), him asking the two women out, the meltdown and now this last episode...I don't know where this is going, I'm dreading a TR someday about a "proper" date for Sheldon, with him bringing roses and chocolate to his lady,  taking her in a nice restaurant and so on!!! But, as I said, I'm a dramatic person. What's sure is that, even if I have to admit the writers are good in making his changes kind of organic,  the character is right now not developing like a paint dry, as Lorre used to say, but at warp speed!

Like you I wouldn't like if Sheldon had 'a proper' with roses, chocolate and the fancy restaurant, unless the lady is Amy of course! I do wonder if they are trying to show Sheldon realizing that these are the things that 1. Amy would like it 2. He would like to do things like that for and with Amy. The question is would he have to go on an actual proper date with some other woman to come to that realisation? I hope not. Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk
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With all the complaints about the quoting system, I'm not even going to try!

But to answer Cherry, maybe because we recently saw Sheldon insist on a chaste sleepover with his girlfriend of many years.  It would be very surprising to me if Sheldon suddenly decided he was ready to meet a new girl and start having sex with her.

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With all the complaints about the quoting system, I'm not even going to try!

But to answer Cherry, maybe because we recently saw Sheldon insist on a chaste sleepover with his girlfriend of many years.  It would be very surprising to me if Sheldon suddenly decided he was ready to meet a new girl and start having sex with her.

Perhaps he aims to practice on some other girl first and then with his new found knowledge of what he should and shouldn't do goes back after Amy. Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk
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Perhaps he aims to practice on some other girl first and then with his new found knowledge of what he should and shouldn't do goes back after Amy. Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk

But that would only work assuming this hypothetical woman is the same as Amy, which would mean that he could actually date her for real.

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