Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 9

[JE7]

He can do all he wants but if the next episode the script contradicts his thoughts then the motive wasent there

I am heading to a less depressing thread you guys are like mourners at a funeral today.. Have a nice day 

Edited October 23, 2015 by JE7

[Soopysue]

My reaction to like 80% of the stuff I read here today. You guys really have a talent to pull the most upsetting and far-fetched scenarios out of thin air. I'd make a proper post if I had more time but not today. In the meantime please calm down. You're your own worst enemy right now! Have a hot beverage, practise some kolinahr and have a consoling group hug!

Thanks April  needed that, we need some positive thoughts !!!.

This is all turning into exasperated frustrated fans grasping at panicky straws !!!!. I include myself , but yes you're right a hot beverage , deep breath and roll on the next TR  ! 

It will all be fine, make it all fine , NOW please !!!  

 

 

i do think we will get to see her POV soon. I think it will come when amy finds out about the ring like I said earlier. Penny, being the gossip that she is will probably tell amy about it at some point and will have her rethink some of her feelings about Sheldon or even try and get him back. I think it could lead to a role reversal in the breakup. She finally realizes what sheldon really wants but from what I read in episode 8, he may be too angry to accept amy back yet. This would allow us to see Amy's perspective of why she loved him and see her side of being heartbroken or rejected by sheldon. I do think the writers did tell us why she broke up with sheldon clearer than most ppl think (she felt the relationship moved at a turtle's pace, doubt of his real commitment, his selfishness), but what we have failed to see is why she loves/loved him so long. If we see this role reversal that I discussed, maybe we will have some insight as to why she wants him. I think her knowing about the ring will clear up her doubt about his commitment to her (whether she sees the video or hears it from lenny). If she hears it from lenny, they can vouch for how much amy really means to him. I really think they will go down this storyline if they are smart. It will get them moving in the right direction towards getting back together, we will see some insight into Amy's pov, and it will slowly lead to them talking some things out even if it doesn't lead to a reconciliation at first. Like I said, I think the moment that amy finds out about the ring, the tables will be turned on her. Sheldon didn't try to get amy back in Ep 8 after finding out about the date, he instead tried to find someone else (which to me says he is upset at amy and is done trying to win her over for a bit). Amy will be the one trying to get sheldon back after this, I believe. 

 

it's with his 2nd head. 

Yes please to your scenario !!! . Thank you  . 

Feel better now !

[A Shamy gal]

 

 

Well, no. He DIDN'T believe in love, romance, girlfriend, etc. He CONSIDERED himself far too evolved for those kind of things.

 

How do I know the past tense is relevant here? Because he was on the verge of proposing her. You don't propose anybody if you still think that you are too evolved for a relationship or if you still don't believe in love.

 

True he didn't believe in those things, but I don't think that's the case now. 

The other thing to consider is that Amy has been a huge influence on him.  She can get him to do or at least consider doing things that others can't or that he himself wouldn't normally do.  Knowing that Amy is dating, he could be thinking well if Amy's doing it, so it can't be that bad and why not give it go.   

The second thing to consider is that a girl has never broken up with him before and therefore it is conceivable that he is acting IC for when a girl has broken up with him.

 

Edited October 23, 2015 by A Shamy gal

[nibbler747]

Hella depressing thread Batman!  I'm not sure why everyone is ready to jump off a cliff over here.  All because Sheldon went on a date?  Because he had a pleasant conversation with an attractive woman?  I really don't think both these things are incomprehensible.

I think he's trying to fill a void...an emptiness and sadness he's feeling.  I think he thinks a new girlfriend will solve that, but in the end will realize that it doesn't because it is Amy he is missing.

What I would like to see is Amy missing Sheldon also.  That piece seems to be missing .  Sure we saw her upset at the thought of Sheldon moving on so quickly, but it doesn't really show that she is missing him also.  Hope to see Amy's perspective soon.

Think I'll exit this thread for a while.  I think things will improve, it's just taking longer than we had all hoped.

[A Shamy gal]

Hella depressing thread Batman!  I'm not sure why everyone is ready to jump off a cliff over here.  All because Sheldon went on a date?  Because he had a pleasant conversation with an attractive woman?  I really don't think both these things are incomprehensible.

I think he's trying to fill a void...an emptiness and sadness he's feeling.  I think he thinks a new girlfriend will solve that, but in the end will realize that it doesn't because it is Amy he is missing.

What I would like to see is Amy missing Sheldon also.  That piece seems to be missing .  Sure we saw her upset at the thought of Sheldon moving on so quickly, but it doesn't really show that she is missing him also.  Hope to see Amy's perspective soon.

Think I'll exit this thread for a while.  I think things will improve, it's just taking longer than we had all hoped.

If we ever do get to see Amy's perspective, I don't think it will be until they have the talk that will resolve things and it wouldn't surprise me if whatever is shown is over before you know it.

Edited October 23, 2015 by A Shamy gal

[nickelette424]

Good lord.   How did we go from Sheldon having a pleasant conversation with a woman (its happened before, even before Amy) who he then shut the door in her face, to Sheldon sleeping with her or other women?  What a huge leap in logic.   

I hate this dating others plot as much as the next person,  but I'm not even sure Sheldon's ended up being a date.   It read to be like a short conversation at the door. 

[YlvaBorealis89]

I'm not exactly thrilled about this storyline either, but when it comes to Sheldon and this Vanessa-girl I really see no reason to worry. Sheldon may need to consult books and Google before he can figure out that someone is mad at him, but as socially inept as he is he's never been shy around women. Now, that may simply be due to the lack of fire in his loins at the (purely theoretical) prospect of a round of horizontal mambo, and aren't we happier for it... But really, I don't see his chatting up a girl and having a good time as some kind of sign that Harmagedon is coming - he's always been happy to engage in conversation with anyone who's willing to listen to him, only to throw them away once he's done playing with them. I don't see anything we haven't seen before - I mean, he *literally* slammed the door in the poor girl's face after all. If that's not rejection then I might be just as bad at this social interaction thing as Sheldon....

Edited October 23, 2015 by YlvaBorealis89

[rachelshamyfan]

that was not a serious request Rach, lots of men and women swear off dating after a breakup but they are only venting not being serious you can't blame Leonard as away to absolve sheldon for his actions its simply not fair

oh I blame the writers!

 

 

He can do all he wants but if the next episode the script contradicts his thoughts then the motive wasent there

I am heading to a less depressing thread you guys are like mourners at a funeral today.. Have a nice day 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 23, 2015 by rachelshamyfan

[nusspot]

GUYS! GO TO MAYIM'S FACEBOOK PAGE

Edited October 23, 2015 by nusspot
Sorry, for the yelling but I'm so excited I'M CRYING

[denajeanx]

Knowing Mayim's past with hinting at amazing Shamy episodes, they both probably die in fiery car crash. 

[pisquenta]

Are they filming this week again or did she mean next week?

Knowing Mayim's past with hinting at amazing Shamy episodes, they both probably die in fiery car crash. 

HAHAHAHAHA I can't stop laughing

[AlFisher]

Knowing Mayim's past with hinting at amazing Shamy episodes, they both probably die in fiery car crash. 

I can't.. I am laughing so hard 

[Bavarian ShamyShipper Girl]

O...M...G...
*HAPPILY SCREAMING*

Don't care whether this is an illusion. I'll take that risk.

Edited October 23, 2015 by Bavarian ShamyShipper Girl

[Kathleen]

Here's the post. I'm freaking out in my philosophy class right now

 

[AlFisher]

I wonder, if it's true, and if it's good hint, if she is allowed to post such things?... hm. 

Edited October 23, 2015 by AlFisher

[mothandfire]

Mayim's FB post makes me shedding happy tears!

[nibbler747]

Fingers crossed!!

[rachelshamyfan]

I am calm

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I don't know how to process this information!!!!!!

 

 

Edited October 23, 2015 by rachelshamyfan

[Soopysue]

GUYS! GO TO MAYIM'S FACEBOOK PAGE

OMG !!!!! Thank you  

Oh wow I need a drink - this better be good for real !!!!!!! 

[AlFisher]

I am sooooooooooooooo scared..... OMG

WHY DID SHE POST THAT!?

OMG !!!!! Thank you  

Oh wow I need a drink - this better be good for real !!!!!!! 

My favorite) 

[jenafan]

In the premier Sheldon told Leonard to stop him if he thought about going out with other girls, yet there has now been two examples of Sheldon asking girls out and Leonard hasn't stopped him, admittedly he wasn't there the 2nd time but it's another example of the inconsistencies by the writers this season

Hi Rachel.  I get your pain, but I have to disagree with the inconsistency here.  

Sheldon's comment in the premier was out of a combination of despair that he couldn't believe he was in this situation and being stabbed all over with the pains of a break (which to Sheldon was a break up) and anger (the need to retaliate and hurt Amy back).   He didn't say he wouldn't think of dating others, but asked Leonard to stop him if he thought of it.   In the same breath he also said he was done with women and with Amy, and even said the same with his mother later.  

Then (11) hours later he shows up at Amy's door trying to get her to make a decision, which of course he wants it to be that they are a couple again.  Then in the next encounter he tries to bribe her with all the reasons he thinks they should be together, but then he taunts her with Penny's bra, tries to get her company back by using the FWF baby reference, shows off his anger with FWF while at the same time revealing his growing physical desire for her.  He asks her to live with him because that is really what he wants, but then when she rejects him, he insults her by accusing her of poisoning him with feelings to suggest that loving her is now bad for him.  He can't go back to what he was, and he can't move forward in the direction he wants to go because Amy is not giving him any signs that the possibility is still there.   Sheldon is all over the place trying to be the emotionless robot he was before Amy and handling the human side that he is feeling now.

Now here we are several encounters later, where he's gone from the hope of getting her back at the end of the FWF episode to realizing that it really is over.   The game has changed, and he knows he has lost.   So, what does he do?  He's trying to reset the board, and since he's lost his partner in play, he's looking for another because he knows now that he doesn't want to play by himself.

Leonard is not stopping him at this point, because like everyone else, he isn't taking Sheldon seriously.  Leonard thinks Sheldon is playing the emotional manipulation game, as was indicated by his comment about Sheldon reverting back to 2003.  They all think Sheldon is reacting to the loss of just a playmate and not getting his way, rather than the loss of someone he wanted to make his life partner.  

If you recall, before the breakup, the last thing Leonard and Penny witnessed before they ran off to LA was Sheldon swearing up and down that Amy was wrong for her overreaction.   When Sheldon calls Leonard to tell him Amy ended it, he is still blaming her.    They know Sheldon is fond of Amy, but he has shown no signs to anyone how serious his desire to commit to Amy is, nor has anyone heard him accept responsibility for what went wrong on their anniversary.   All of Amy's actions and lack of revealing her feelings indicate that she has simply had enough.    For now, the friends are not going to get involved in something that they believe is a futile effort.

So, while I hate the storyline and feel the break up didn't need to happen, it has, and there is no going back now.  I'm still watching the show and am going through this angst with you.

However, just because I don't like the direction the storyline is going does not mean it isn't logical, like phantagrae pointed out.  I do believe the writers have developed the break up well, and with each new episode, another piece of the missing puzzle is provided to give us clues.   

I hate the whole dating thing with Amy and Sheldon, but I totally get why they are doing it.   It's not inconsistent.  It is a result of two people who have fallen out of sync with each other who are caught up in a mixture of needing each other, feeling betrayed by the other, a need for a little bit of revenge, and trying to move on because neither believes the other wants them.

This is a comedy of errors over mistaken intent from both parties that we hope will end with a happy resolution for all involved.    We just need to ride it out and see.   I know it's hard not knowing when or how, and if the how will be satisfactory.  

My Shamy heart bleeds with you, and I've become weak,  but I haven't bled out yet.   I still have hope and really want to share a little bit of it with you.

Edited October 23, 2015 by jenafan

[rachelshamyfan]

Hi Rachel.  I get your pain, but I have to disagree with the inconsistency here.  

Sheldon's comment in the premier was out of a combination of despair that he couldn't believe he was in this situation and being stabbed all over with the pains of a break (which to Sheldon was a break up) and anger (the need to retaliate and hurt Amy back).   He didn't say he wouldn't think of dating others, but asked Leonard to stop him if he thought of it.   In the same breath he also said he was done with women and with Amy, and even said the same with his mother later.  

Then (11) hours later he shows up at Amy's door trying to get her to make a decision, which of course he wants it to be that they are a couple again.  Then in the next encounter he tries to bribe her with all the reasons he thinks they should be together, but then he taunts her with Penny's bra, tries to get her company back by using the FWF baby reference, shows off his anger with FWF while at the same time revealing his growing physical desire for her.  He asks her to live with him because that is really what he wants, but then when she rejects him, he insults her by accusing her of poisoning him with feelings to suggest that loving her is now bad for him.  He can't go back to what he was, and he can't move forward in the direction he wants to go because Amy is not giving him any signs that the possibility is still there.   Sheldon is all over the place trying to be the emotionless robot he was before Amy and handling the human side that he is feeling now.

Now here we are several encounters later, where he's gone from the hope of getting her back at the end of the FWF episode to realizing that it really is over.   The game has changed, and he knows he has lost.   So, what does he do?  He's trying to reset the board, and since he's lost his partner in play, he's looking for another because he knows now that he doesn't want to play by himself.

Leonard is not stopping him at this point, because like everyone else, he isn't taking Sheldon seriously.  Leonard thinks Sheldon is playing the emotional manipulation game, as was indicated by his comment about Sheldon reverting back to 2003.  They all think Sheldon is reacting to the loss of just a playmate and not getting his way, rather than the loss of someone he wanted to make his life partner.  

If you recall, before the breakup, the last thing Leonard and Penny witnessed before they ran off to LA was Sheldon swearing up and down that Amy was wrong for her overreaction.   When Sheldon calls Leonard to tell him Amy ended it, he is still blaming her.    They know Sheldon is fond of Amy, but he has shown no signs to anyone how serious his desire to commit to Amy is, nor has anyone heard him accept responsibility for what went wrong on their anniversary.   All of Amy's actions and lack of revealing her feelings indicate that she has simply had enough.    For now, the friends are not going to get involved in something that they believe is a futile effort.

So, while I hate the storyline and feel the break up didn't need to happen, it has, and there is no going back now.  I'm still watching the show and am going through this angst with you.

However, just because I don't like the direction the storyline is going does not mean it isn't logical, like phantagrae pointed out.  I do believe the writers have developed the break up well, and with each new episode, another piece of the missing puzzle is provided to give us clues.   

I hate the whole dating thing with Amy and Sheldon, but I totally get why they are doing it.   It's not inconsistent.  It is a result of two people who have fallen out of sync with each other who are caught up in a mixture of needing each other, feeling betrayed by the other, a need for a little bit of revenge, and trying to move on because neither believes the other wants them.

This is a comedy of errors over mistaken intent from both parties that we hope will end with a happy resolution for all involved.    We just need to ride it out and see.   I know it's hard not knowing when or how, and if the how will be satisfactory.  

My Shamy heart bleeds with you, and I've become weak,  but I haven't bled out yet.   I still have hope.

well Mayim just made the fandom freak out collectively with her beautiful shamy comments regarding next week's taping, I stayed calm for about five minutes

 

 

 

 

 

[jenafan]

well Mayim just made the fandom freak out collectively with her beautiful shamy comments regarding next week's taping, I stayed calm for about five minutes

 

 

 

 

 

Do you have a link?

[Beckyseyedoc]

Fingers crossed!!

I believe Mayim chooses her words very carefully. When she referred to the season 8 finale, she never called it "beautiful," but inferred it was a powerful episode (sorry, I don't remember her exact word choice then). 

"Beautiful," huh, Mayim? And it is well known she and Jim Parsons enjoy working with one another.

I'm inclined toward the positive outlook! Bring on the happy dances!

[jenafan]

I believe Mayim chooses her words very carefully. When she referred to the season 8 finale, she never called it "beautiful," but inferred it was a powerful episode (sorry, I don't remember her exact word choice then). 

"Beautiful," huh, Mayim? And it is well known she and Jim Parsons enjoy working with one another.

I'm inclined toward the positive outlook! Bring on the happy dances!

Oh, my Shamy heart started beating rapidly again.    Oh, I could kiss Mayim right now for giving us that little bit.