Jump to content
The Big Bang Theory Forums
Sign in to follow this  
Tensor

[Spoilers] Shamy: Season 9

Recommended Posts

He was talking about acting/character choices, not about things like kissing or whatever.  Jim's open to doing pretty much anything, judging by various interviews.

As for the Leia bikini, he was self-conscious about his abdomen.  For a long time he's had a bit of a belly pooch, even when he was bone skinny.  I do wonder, with all the working out he's been doing lately, if that's no longer the case. :)

 

I gathered that was the issue. Know he feels. Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I was nodding along through pretty much the entire post until I got to the "training" part. Man, I'm sorry, but I really have issues when people talk about training Sheldon like he's a dog. He's a grown man, who definitely has to realize that his actions can have devastating consequences, but the point of Amy standing her ground right now has nothing to do with "training" him. She's not doing it to train him, she's doing it because she's hurt and upset and wants to be alone right now. I don't think that if Sheldon came up to her with flowers and an apology right now she would take him back on the spot either because she simply hasn't had the time to think things through. And we haven't had the chance to see her think things through. 

I see where you are coming from and agree 100% when you have put it in those terms.   Perhaps training is too strong a word.  My point is that Amy is not giving into his unacceptable behavior, and I think that is commendable on her part, and perhaps will induce change.

  • Like 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I just still don't know how I feel about everything so it's good to see other people perform analysis like this :icon_razz:

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I literally got 3 hours of sleep last night, I stayed up waiting for information on the second episode. I'm so tired! The Shenny kiss rocked me to my core and affected half of my work day. I was just walking around disappointed and sad. After lunch I started to feel much better, and not just because I was full. If the writers felt the need to show us a Shenny kiss, that's their business, I cannot do anything about that. I'm still going to enjoy Shamy. I'm just going to block out that scene because it never happened, it was a dream. My focus is on Shamy. After reading a few posts about the various reasons why Sheldon is lashing out the way he is, I'm really excited to see what's going to happen in the next 4-5 episodes. I feel like the writers will push the envelope so far and then...bam! something special is going to happen. What that special is...idk...maybe coitus, make out, sleepover (PG-13), proposal, marriage, undying devotion to each other, moving in together...who knows. I let one moment that has nothing to do with the couple itself get me down, but now I'm back to being optimistic. The episode sounds really sweet for Lenny and Shamy fighting was going to happen, Sheldon is upset and coping in his own way and Amy just needs time and is being pushed. We shall see what the writers have in store for Shamy. I just wish for a resolution by the 5th episode. I'm not here for a season long break up.

 

Disclaimer: All the views and opinions expressed above are mine and mine alone. You don't have to agree, we all have different perspectives and should be open to hearing different opinions. :shy: #TeamShamy

Totally agree. Let's enjoy our favorite show. 

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I literally got 3 hours of sleep last night, I stayed up waiting for information on the second episode. I'm so tired! The Shenny kiss rocked me to my core and affected half of my work day. I was just walking around disappointed and sad. After lunch I started to feel much better, and not just because I was full. If the writers felt the need to show us a Shenny kiss, that's their business, I cannot do anything about that. I'm still going to enjoy Shamy. I'm just going to block out that scene because it never happened, it was a dream. My focus is on Shamy. After reading a few posts about the various reasons why Sheldon is lashing out the way he is, I'm really excited to see what's going to happen in the next 4-5 episodes. I feel like the writers will push the envelope so far and then...bam! something special is going to happen. What that special is...idk...maybe coitus, make out, sleepover (PG-13), proposal, marriage, undying devotion to each other, moving in together...who knows. I let one moment that has nothing to do with the couple itself get me down, but now I'm back to being optimistic. The episode sounds really sweet for Lenny and Shamy fighting was going to happen, Sheldon is upset and coping in his own way and Amy just needs time and is being pushed. We shall see what the writers have in store for Shamy. I just wish for a resolution by the 5th episode. I'm not here for a season long break up.

 

Disclaimer: All the views and opinions expressed above are mine and mine alone. You don't have to agree, we all have different perspectives and should be open to hearing different opinions. :shy: #TeamShamy

I completely agree. I think it will be great to see all the stuff the writers could do with this. I've felt this way since the finale and all summer have thought about the comedy that could come from this. I have complete faith in the writers that they will come up with something we as fans have not even thought of. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

In regards to Sheldon's behaviour, I'm more inclined to believe other people's suggestions about the writers sending him through the stages of grief.
If that is the case, then we can probably expect to see a different reaction from Sheldon and different method to win Amy back with each new episode for the next few weeks.  

That doesn't sound so bad to me if we see Amy start to soften towards him from episode three. That's not to say she loses the backbone she's had from the last couple of episodes, but more along the lines of she's more willing to sit down and hear Sheldon out when he's being rational. 

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I know I'm usually bad at predictions but I also feel like the writers will somehow come around and find some pretty good closure within Shamy eventually.  It's just that I think maybe they really did have somewhat of a plan after all (even though for sitcoms, it's not usually like this).  But whatever the resolution is, I get this lingering feeling that we'll get something good out of this because it did start out sorta messy.

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

I know I'm usually bad at predictions but I also feel like the writers will somehow come around and find some pretty good closure within Shamy eventually.  It's just that I think maybe they really did have somewhat of a plan after all (even though for sitcoms, it's not usually like this).  But whatever the resolution is, I get this lingering feeling that we'll get something good out of this because it did start out sorta messy.

I'm not good with predictions too, and that's ok if you don't believe me: I myself wouldn't believe if I heard this from another person, but at the end of past week's episode, when Sheldon knocks at Penny's, I felt that they (writers) would try to put them closer in some way. Because of my bad intuition, I ignored my feeling and then...
BUT LET'S MOVE ON

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey guys!!!

First of all, what is the title of the episode... The "vomit" oscillation right??

Are the writers making fun of us?? what a way to insult a fandom!! I'm beyond disappointed!! This is disgusting! and I'm not talking only about the kiss but the way Sheldon is treating Amy!! What the h*ll is he thinking about?? She is a PERSON who deserves respect! I know he is hurt, but Amy is hurt as well, nothing justify the fact he is being a j*rk!! this is the kind of "growth" we will see for the rest of the season, sorry but I don't like it! and i'm not willing to watch it!! Are they trying to destroy the Shamy relationship in order to give more relevance to Penny and Sheldon and their "siblings relationship" (or whatever they have)?? At this point i don't really care about the ring... who knows!! maybe sheldon bought it for penny.. or maybe in the next ep we will see Sheldon describing to amy his passionate sex with penny.. (visual effects, graphic sequence etc) oohh yeesss!! "just to prove the Shenny doesn't exist as a romantic couple", that's what we get from the writers every single season... and yes we are the most patient fandom, the most grateful with the little moments of happiness between sheldon and amy, the most supportive, the most comprehensive fandom...it's about time... to something good happen we say, we think and we always hope since season 4!!

 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey guys!!!

First of all, what is the title of the episode... The "vomit" oscillation right??

Are the writers making fun of us?? what a way to insult a fandom!! I'm beyond disappointed!! This is disgusting! and I'm not talking only about the kiss but the way Sheldon is treating Amy!! What the h*ll is he thinking about?? She is a PERSON who deserves respect! I know he is hurt, but Amy is hurt as well, nothing justify the fact he is being a j*rk!! this is the kind of "growth" we will see for the rest of the season, sorry but I don't like it! and i'm not willing to watch it!! Are they trying to destroy the Shamy relationship in order to give more relevance to Penny and Sheldon and their "siblings relationship" (or whatever they have)?? At this point i don't really care about the ring... who knows!! maybe sheldon bought it for penny.. or maybe in the next ep we will see Sheldon describing to amy his passionate sex with penny.. (visual effects, graphic sequence etc) oohh yeesss!! "just to prove the Shenny doesn't exist as a romantic couple", that's what we get from the writers every single season... and yes we are the most patient fandom, the most grateful with the little moments of happiness between sheldon and amy, the most supportive, the most comprehensive fandom...it's about time... to something good happen we say, we think and we always hope since season 4!!

 

Get a grip!!  The whole Shenny kissing scene was a dream/nightmare THAT LEONARD HAS!!!  It has nothing to do with how Sheldon feels about Penny, how Penny feels about Sheldon or about Shamy's relationship.

Im not looking forward to seeing it either and I'll probably sit there with my hands over my face and make my kids suffer through it.  My youngest will hate me for it and my oldest will just roll her eyes and proclaim once again how crazy we all are for obsessing over a TV show (I'm starting to think she may have a point).

Edited by Kathy2611
  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have a question for Shamy shippers. Is the problem with the "make out" that it is with someone other than Amy or is because it's with Penny?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Based on what I've seen in the forum, I think Shamy shippers hate the Shenny pairing (as do I). Their biggest concerns is that the writers appear to be encouraging this pairing for those that do support it. So, specifically, they hate that Sheldon has been brought in as a "dream" partner for Penny, when there are plenty of guys they could have chosen from to depict the feelings of guilt for Leonard. I think they're also annoyed because the passion that people have reported to have seen in the kiss is something Shamy will probably never touch on as it doesn't fit with the innocent, inexperienced nature of their relationship. 

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It is because some want to see Sheldon's first, and only for that matter, intimate experiences with Amy.  The fact that we've been shipping this relationship for five years and only get a distracted make out session on the couch while the Shenny ships get a hot make-out session, even in fantasy, is a disappointment.   The concern is that the Shenny makeout image will burn into our brains so that anything that happens with Shamy will no longer have the same effect of on our hearts and minds as before.   It is like Sheldon's innocence is gone.  Even though it is not real, the image of him making out with another woman other than Amy is still there.

It is the same reason we don't want Amy and Sheldon dating other people.   There is only her for him and him for her, to stray from this formula would seem like a betrayal to their relationship and everything they have built together.

Edited by jenafan
  • Like 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have a question for Shamy shippers. Is the problem with the "make out" that it is with someone other than Amy or is because it's with Penny?

At least for me, the problem it's with Penny. They made brutally clear past season that nothing sexual/romantic was going to happen between them (and, in fact, nothing really happened till now), but it's hard to explain how disappointing it is. As Teletalk said, I hate how passionate and hot this make out was, and we the shamies got nothing like this ever. I don't like keep asking myself "what if", but what if they decide to end Shamy and start a Shenny thing, like Penny's revenge for Leonard's cheating? It baffles me and make me insecure about the future of the show. I'm not a writer or a producer, but I feel they don't know what to do, or where they are going.

When the Shamy make out happen, if it happens, I want it almost pornographic. 
:devil:

  • Like 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Teletalk, I think the reason the dream was with Sheldon and not some other guy was Leonard was always worried that some hunky guy would come to take her away. nothing against Sheldon but he's a nerdy guy like Leonard. I'm not sure your ever get the same passion in their relationship like you would like Lenny. Their two entirely different couples. I still think Shenny fans are in the minority and getting them together is not in the writers minds.

jenafan, the intimate experiences are still there for Shamy. They haven't changed because of this. Most of my fellow shippers have gotten over Penny getting married for the second time in Vegas. Leonard has lost out on other first time experiences. Also I can't ever picture Sheldon dating anyone else.( I normally would say why but I know what thread I'm on)

rosa, the Penny answer I was expecting. First  I believe there are too many Shamy and Lenny fans that would stop watching and syndication would go down the tubes. In regards to the show itself IMO the number one Shamy fan is Penny. There is nothing romantic between them.They have an unique relationship and are many things to one another but a couple  isn't one of them.

  • Like 6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Teletalk, I think the reason the dream was with Sheldon and not some other guy was Leonard was always worried that some hunky guy would come to take her away. nothing against Sheldon but he's a nerdy guy like Leonard. I'm not sure your ever get the same passion in their relationship like you would like Lenny. Their two entirely different couples. I still think Shenny fans are in the minority and getting them together is not in the writers minds.

I agree here.   I mentioned in an earlier post that Penny and Sheldon are the two closest people in Leonard's life, and his subconscious put them together in a dream  to work out his inner turmoil regarding kissing boat girl.  He missed his wedding night, hence the make out session.   The make out session is hot, which is reminiscent of his normal state of intimacy with Penny, and Sheldon is in his place as the other guy, as he is not a threat to his relationship with Penny and nor is Mandy. 

As far as the dream interfering with the Shamy intimacy, you are correct that it really has no bearing on it, other than the Shamy shippers feeling they have been cheated on.

 

Edited by jenafan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

rosa, the Penny answer I was expecting. First  I believe there are too many Shamy and Lenny fans that would stop watching and syndication would go down the tubes. In regards to the show itself IMO the number one Shamy fan is Penny. There is nothing romantic between them.They have an unique relationship and are many things to one another but a couple  isn't one of them.

Really hope so. In 2, TWO weeks I've been so fool...I don't know if I'll expect something for next week (especially because there's no script cover, so yay, that's the punishment for the bad behavior of some fans, unfortunatelly). But I just can't stay away from spoilers.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Teletalk, I think the reason the dream was with Sheldon and not some other guy was Leonard was always worried that some hunky guy would come to take her away. nothing against Sheldon but he's a nerdy guy like Leonard. I'm not sure your ever get the same passion in their relationship like you would like Lenny. Their two entirely different couples. I still think Shenny fans are in the minority and getting them together is not in the writers minds.

I agree, Chrismo. I actually said something along the lines of that earlier in this thread (pg 68). 

"In my opinion, I believe the dream kiss was supposed to spark a realisation for Leonard of why Penny was so shaken up about the kiss between him and Mandy. For Penny, this person was unexpected, someone she never thought would be a threat to her relationship. Sheldon is quite honestly the one guy on Earth Leonard would NEVER see as a threat. Having Sheldon included in the dream sequence is more significant that someone else because it makes Leonard sympathise with Penny and scares him into dealing with the problem head-on."

The kiss doesn't particularly bother me, I was just conveying what I think other Shamy fans are feeling based on what I've been reading here over the last 24-hours. 

To paraphrase Regina George in Mean Girls "Stop trying to make Shenny happen. It's not going to happen!"
(Directed at the Shenny fans, not the writers)

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Okay, as promised, I'm going to give my point of view about the taping for episode two.  Once again, I haven't read any of the comments here, but I do know that a lot of people freaked out about the kiss, so I'm going to start with that.

To be completely honest, we were pretty much all flipping our shit at that scene.  I was screaming "Nooooo!!!!"  It was quite horrific.  We were joking later about how a photo of our faces would have looked at that exact moment.  But here's the thing--yes, I still do want some brain bleach because just the thought of Shenny makes me want to throw up in my mouth.  BUT--I'm just so glad that it was a dream.  A nightmare, in fact, and it came from Leonard's imagination.  I was SO relieved when I realized it, and here's the thing: the writers TOTALLY did that scene for the shock value.  I know some people are upset at the thought that Shamy will never have a scene that sexy, but that's where I disagree.  Will it be that "raunchy" of a scene?  Probably not.  But there was no love in the Shenny dream kiss.  It's a bit rough knowing that this was the "hottest" scene on BBT so far, and it was Shenny, but I really do believe that part of this is their way of setting up the audience and preparing us for a more sexual Sheldon.  Clearly the REAL Sheldon still has no interest in Penny and is going after Amy rather vehemently.  He's making sexual innuendos in regards to her and trying to make her jealous with comments implying he's got all these women, etc.  Boy is waking up!  And I truly do believe that their reunion is going to be hot.  It's going to be passionate and tender and full of love, because that's what they deserve (and after five years of waiting, I think we all deserve it too!  Not to mention, the writers kind of owe us a little after being such brats with that shocker). :wink: We've been waiting so long, and I know it's hard to see/hear about a scene like this, but that whole episode was so full of implication that it's becoming apparent he wants Amy in a physical way.  Plus, the kiss was SO out of character for Sheldon that it just isn't believable.  It was so over the top it's laughable.  When he kisses Amy with that kind of passion it's going to be the REAL thing, and it's going to be SO Sheldon and that will make it even hotter.  Just think--if they can show us a scene like that, what's in store for us for Shamy later?  They've proven now that they're not afraid to go there.  After giving it a lot of thought, I'm still not fond of the imagery.  I still want brain bleach, but I can see the comedy in what they did and how they really wanted to throw us all for a loop for a few seconds, and the fact that it's not real is what makes it bearable.

Now onto the rest.  If you put the kiss scene aside, I think the rest of the episode--whether you can accept the dream kiss or not--is a good episode.  It was definitely lighter and funnier than the premiere, which was what I was hoping for.  It continues to give hope for Shamy, and there were a lot of sweet moments that show how much Sheldon still loves her and is trying (even when he gets snarky).  I love that Sheldon is clearly still fighting for Amy.  He's researching.  He's trying things he's seen in movies, and he's probably googling stuff about it, and if he's researching and googling, what ELSE is he looking up?  It's my belief that he's probably gathering intel on physical intimacy as well, because clearly it's on his mind a LOT.  Unfortunately, the poor boy is trying all the wrong things right now and he's only making Amy madder, but there's going to be a point soon where he wakes up and realizes that he needs to try a different approach.  My belief is that he's going to break down soon--most likely when Leonard moves out (which is probably coming really soon) and he's left alone.  It's really going to hit him then.  Right now he's still a bit cocky and is remembering the other times when Amy has gotten mad at him and he was able to convince her to forgive him and return to normal.  He keeps thinking that he'll find the thing to win her back, but it's not working that way this time, and I'm honestly glad she's standing her ground this time because I really think it's needed for them to move forward together in a healthy, happy way.  Amy needs to tell him what she needs and wants, and I think she's still trying to figure that out.  Even though she's mad at him, it's clear that she's hurting too.  She even tells him that it's hard for her as well.  I think if he would give her the space she needs to think it all through she would be able to come to him and articulate her needs.  And I think once Sheldon is hit with the realization that he can't just put a bandaid on things this time, he's going to grow as a person and start considering her needs more.  And with the sexual thoughts that seem to be occupying his mind more and more lately, I can really see their reunion being explosive.  (And remember: Molaro called the fact that Sheldon leaned in for more kissing in the finale "extremely telling").  Like I said before, they're setting all of this up so that BOTH of them can realize what they need/want and move forward together toward marriage, sex, and everything else.

This brings me back to the idea of the five stages of grief that I mentioned in my post for episode 1, and that others have mentioned as well.  Sheldon isn't really that angry anymore, but now he's bargaining.  He's trying everything in the book to make her jealous or get her to take him back.  As Amy said, she sees him more now that they're broken up than she even did when they were together.  He's clearly pining over her and I'm really glad he hasn't lost his determination.  He WILL figure things out and "win" her back.  Next comes that depression I mentioned where he breaks down and realizes that things aren't so easy to fix this time, and he's going to be missing her desperately.  Once he comes to the conclusion about the fact that he hasn't always been the most attentive to her needs, he will hit the acceptance stage.  No, he won't accept that she's not his, but I think he will realize and accept the fact that he needs to give her space.   This will be his most self sacrificing and humbling moment and it will show Amy that he truly cares about her feelings.  And then once she's had that time to consider things, they can talk and move toward their future with a mutual understanding.

I know it's hard not to react with knee-jerk emotions.  Try being at this taping for that opening scene.  :wink:  But as we always say, things play out a bit differently on screen than what we see at the taping or what is conveyed in online details.  I'm thinking they'll even probably cut the Shenny scene down a bit now that they got their initial audience reaction to it.  I really do still have faith though.  Putting the fake/un-Sheldony/nightmare kiss aside and just focusing on what REALLY happened and what was real in that episode, the Shamy is moving forward.  It may not feel like it right now, but everything that is happening is bringing them a step closer to getting back together and learning how to be a couple in the long-term.  And now that Lenny is fixed, there will be plenty of time to focus on this plotline and bring them back together in the best way possible.

 

Thank you so much , again you've made me feel 100 times better :) 

You're not by any chance going again next week are you ? :) 

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thank you so much, ShamyShipper! (I don't know which name you prefer, haha). I love your insights on the episode. I'm sure that opening scene must have been a doozy! But like you I'm relieved it was a dream and Leonard's dream at that. The rest of the episode sounds funny and like Sheldon is bargaining hard for Amy. I agree with everything you said! 

Edited by Maddie
  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Okay, as promised, I'm going to give my point of view about the taping for episode two.  Once again, I haven't read any of the comments here, but I do know that a lot of people freaked out about the kiss, so I'm going to start with that.

To be completely honest, we were pretty much all flipping our shit at that scene.  I was screaming "Nooooo!!!!"  It was quite horrific.  We were joking later about how a photo of our faces would have looked at that exact moment.  But here's the thing--yes, I still do want some brain bleach because just the thought of Shenny makes me want to throw up in my mouth.  BUT--I'm just so glad that it was a dream.  A nightmare, in fact, and it came from Leonard's imagination.  I was SO relieved when I realized it, and here's the thing: the writers TOTALLY did that scene for the shock value.  I know some people are upset at the thought that Shamy will never have a scene that sexy, but that's where I disagree.  Will it be that "raunchy" of a scene?  Probably not.  But there was no love in the Shenny dream kiss.  It's a bit rough knowing that this was the "hottest" scene on BBT so far, and it was Shenny, but I really do believe that part of this is their way of setting up the audience and preparing us for a more sexual Sheldon.  Clearly the REAL Sheldon still has no interest in Penny and is going after Amy rather vehemently.  He's making sexual innuendos in regards to her and trying to make her jealous with comments implying he's got all these women, etc.  Boy is waking up!  And I truly do believe that their reunion is going to be hot.  It's going to be passionate and tender and full of love, because that's what they deserve (and after five years of waiting, I think we all deserve it too!  Not to mention, the writers kind of owe us a little after being such brats with that shocker). :wink: We've been waiting so long, and I know it's hard to see/hear about a scene like this, but that whole episode was so full of implication that it's becoming apparent he wants Amy in a physical way.  Plus, the kiss was SO out of character for Sheldon that it just isn't believable.  It was so over the top it's laughable.  When he kisses Amy with that kind of passion it's going to be the REAL thing, and it's going to be SO Sheldon and that will make it even hotter.  Just think--if they can show us a scene like that, what's in store for us for Shamy later?  They've proven now that they're not afraid to go there.  After giving it a lot of thought, I'm still not fond of the imagery.  I still want brain bleach, but I can see the comedy in what they did and how they really wanted to throw us all for a loop for a few seconds, and the fact that it's not real is what makes it bearable.

Now onto the rest.  If you put the kiss scene aside, I think the rest of the episode--whether you can accept the dream kiss or not--is a good episode.  It was definitely lighter and funnier than the premiere, which was what I was hoping for.  It continues to give hope for Shamy, and there were a lot of sweet moments that show how much Sheldon still loves her and is trying (even when he gets snarky).  I love that Sheldon is clearly still fighting for Amy.  He's researching.  He's trying things he's seen in movies, and he's probably googling stuff about it, and if he's researching and googling, what ELSE is he looking up?  It's my belief that he's probably gathering intel on physical intimacy as well, because clearly it's on his mind a LOT.  Unfortunately, the poor boy is trying all the wrong things right now and he's only making Amy madder, but there's going to be a point soon where he wakes up and realizes that he needs to try a different approach.  My belief is that he's going to break down soon--most likely when Leonard moves out (which is probably coming really soon) and he's left alone.  It's really going to hit him then.  Right now he's still a bit cocky and is remembering the other times when Amy has gotten mad at him and he was able to convince her to forgive him and return to normal.  He keeps thinking that he'll find the thing to win her back, but it's not working that way this time, and I'm honestly glad she's standing her ground this time because I really think it's needed for them to move forward together in a healthy, happy way.  Amy needs to tell him what she needs and wants, and I think she's still trying to figure that out.  Even though she's mad at him, it's clear that she's hurting too.  She even tells him that it's hard for her as well.  I think if he would give her the space she needs to think it all through she would be able to come to him and articulate her needs.  And I think once Sheldon is hit with the realization that he can't just put a bandaid on things this time, he's going to grow as a person and start considering her needs more.  And with the sexual thoughts that seem to be occupying his mind more and more lately, I can really see their reunion being explosive.  (And remember: Molaro called the fact that Sheldon leaned in for more kissing in the finale "extremely telling").  Like I said before, they're setting all of this up so that BOTH of them can realize what they need/want and move forward together toward marriage, sex, and everything else.

This brings me back to the idea of the five stages of grief that I mentioned in my post for episode 1, and that others have mentioned as well.  Sheldon isn't really that angry anymore, but now he's bargaining.  He's trying everything in the book to make her jealous or get her to take him back.  As Amy said, she sees him more now that they're broken up than she even did when they were together.  He's clearly pining over her and I'm really glad he hasn't lost his determination.  He WILL figure things out and "win" her back.  Next comes that depression I mentioned where he breaks down and realizes that things aren't so easy to fix this time, and he's going to be missing her desperately.  Once he comes to the conclusion about the fact that he hasn't always been the most attentive to her needs, he will hit the acceptance stage.  No, he won't accept that she's not his, but I think he will realize and accept the fact that he needs to give her space.   This will be his most self sacrificing and humbling moment and it will show Amy that he truly cares about her feelings.  And then once she's had that time to consider things, they can talk and move toward their future with a mutual understanding.

I know it's hard not to react with knee-jerk emotions.  Try being at this taping for that opening scene.  :wink:  But as we always say, things play out a bit differently on screen than what we see at the taping or what is conveyed in online details.  I'm thinking they'll even probably cut the Shenny scene down a bit now that they got their initial audience reaction to it.  I really do still have faith though.  Putting the fake/un-Sheldony/nightmare kiss aside and just focusing on what REALLY happened and what was real in that episode, the Shamy is moving forward.  It may not feel like it right now, but everything that is happening is bringing them a step closer to getting back together and learning how to be a couple in the long-term.  And now that Lenny is fixed, there will be plenty of time to focus on this plotline and bring them back together in the best way possible.

 

Without having even seen it this was my first reaction as well. The writers wanted the shock value. I have read others takes on being there and it is mixed. I appreciate all of you who give us the details. I want to see both the first and this episode played out. I have a feeling it will come off so much differently. I had the knee jerk reaction to the season seven finale then when I watched it, I understood why Sheldon did what he did. It wasn't right for him not to have said goodbye to Amy but I think him leaving made sense. I just have a gut feeling this is not as bad as it seems. Sheldon fighting for Amy is what I want to see, but I also don't want to see Amy just give in. She needs to convey to him what she wants and needs and so does he. He isn't the only one at fault here. She lets things go to easily sometimes so he has used that to his advantage but now that she has decided enough is enough, he needs to understand where she is coming from. She really hasn't pressured him....even if he feels she has. He needs to let her know what he expects too. Otherwise there is no relationship. Again thank you for your thoughts on the episode. It sounds as if the beginning we may need eye bleach but the rest is good. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
  • Like 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.