Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 9

[Kathleen]

2 hours ago, FortCozyMcBlanket said:

for #tbt: 

well played, writers <3 

 

(credit to foxmvlders.tumblr.com)

i'm glad you guys like my gifs! i knew as soon as i saw that scene, there had to be a parallel!

can we just talk about the perfection of the line "We can find out together." It encapsulates everything about what Shamy is. From the beginning, it has always been those two against the world, navigating the relationship at their own pace, giving zero craps about what others think. All that matters for them is moving forward as a team, united. That line just stood out to me. 

And of course the intimacy was tastefully done and bravo to both Jim and Mayim for portraying such a huge moment so wonderfully!!! 

[zaichina]

I can't sleep, how could I? Still over analyzing the episode and also Mayim posted on grok nation, you should go there, it's a good read.

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[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

Look at these cupcakes!

LOOK AT THEM!

I can't. I'm too hung over to deal with this right now!

[BBTGUY]

17 minutes ago, stardustmelody said:

I guess I took the THR write-up differently.  I looked at it as they could go several ways with Sheldon and one of those could be that he realizes he wants sex more than he expects.

It seems to me that Chuck is saying that for now, so soon after, he is able to still compartmentalize his relationship with Amy from work, playtime with the boys, etc.  But it will be interesting to see if he can still be successful at doing so and not let wanting sex with Amy become more dominant.   I could be misinterpreting this, but it sounds like they are still trying to figure out where the most comedy will come from.   Seeing  Sheldon remain stoic is not nearly as interesting as watching him struggle with urges and desires and try to stuff those into "compartments" based on "agreements", etc. and then "breaking" his rules because he can't keep up with them and so rationalizes ways to break the rules.    

That is exactly how I interpreted that quote as well! It took me a few reads of this article to grasp how I felt about it. Some other quotes were very suspect to me, but just as many others gave me hope for the future. What I took away from the article, is the writers are being very careful and probably struggling a little bit in deciding how they want to write Shamy going forward. I have to imagine this is why they wrote the following 2 episodes with Amy being away. That along with the holidays coming up, it gives them a break and more time to think about it all. I'm not worried though because the writers have a track record of moving things forward in a good way.

I suppose we will have to see just how popular this episode was. My guess is that they will incorporate sex more because of how well this episode seems to have been received by the general public (100% my speculation of course).

I couldn't figure out how to quote her, but MJ had a great post about Sheldon's tone when he talked about doing it again with Amy. It came off like "Oh, we are definitely going to be doing THIS again, you can count on that!"

This whole episode was a masterpiece. Hilarious comedy and great sex! What more can you ask for?!

[2L344]

Mayim on GrokNation confirms her inexperience at having shot a bed scene like this before in addition to her upbringing and being a late bloomer herself as contributing to her nervousness about this coitus episode...just sayin, called it!

5 hours ago, camelliayao said:

Where's the snuggle???

ya i noticed that too. guess they decided sheldon still has a ways to go in the intimacy area, just not there with the little things. 

[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

9 minutes ago, 2L344 said:

Mayim on GrokNation confirms her inexperience at having shot a bed scene like this before in addition to her upbringing and being a late bloomer herself as contributing to her nervousness about this coitus episode...just sayin, called it!

ya i noticed that too. guess they decided sheldon still has a ways to go in the intimacy area, just not there with the little things. 

And she is wrong twice in that article. She has filmed a bed scene, the episode exists maybe she forgot about it? and Amy has kissed more than one man. I'm very confused 

[FortCozyMcBlanket]

12 minutes ago, BBTGUY said:

That is exactly how I interpreted that quote as well! It took me a few reads of this article to grasp how I felt about it. Some other quotes were very suspect to me, but just as many others gave me hope for the future. What I took away from the article, is the writers are being very careful and probably struggling a little bit in deciding how they want to write Shamy going forward. I have to imagine this is why they wrote the following 2 episodes with Amy being away. That along with the holidays coming up, it gives them a break and more time to think about it all. I'm not worried though because the writers have a track record of moving things forward in a good way.

I suppose we will have to see just how popular this episode was. My guess is that they will incorporate sex more because of how well this episode seems to have been received by the general public (100% my speculation of course).

I couldn't figure out how to quote her, but MJ had a great post about Sheldon's tone when he talked about doing it again with Amy. It came off like "Oh, we are definitely going to be doing THIS again, you can count on that!"

This whole episode was a masterpiece. Hilarious comedy and great sex! What more can you ask for?!

This made me realize that this may be a HUGE reason that the next two taped episodes were extremely light on Shamy plot; I think the writers want to see how viewers respond to this milestone episode before they decide how they want to move on with the portrayal of Shamy's new relationship. 

[stardustmelody]

5 minutes ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said:

And she is wrong twice in that article. She has filmed a bed scene, the episode exists maybe she forgot about it? and Amy has kissed more than one man. I'm very confused 

Yeah...she needs to get her facts straight.  I mean even a few episodes ago she kissed Dave....haha...and yeah...she was in that movie 'Fat Actress' and did a post-coital bed scene in that.   

Maybe because she and Jim are close this felt different to her....more "private" (the word she used).   I don't know but it was interesting....

[BBTGUY]

3 minutes ago, FortCozyMcBlanket said:

This made me realize that this may be a HUGE reason that the next two taped episodes were extremely light on Shamy plot; I think the writers want to see how viewers respond to this milestone episode before they decide how they want to move on with the portrayal of Shamy's new relationship. 

Yeah, it was almost like they didn't want them to be physically together because it would force them to write how Shamy acts with each other before they were certain. Which is why they had Amy go away, and by association, the light Shamy plots. 

But I'm okay with it. They need to put the focus on the rest of the cast/whole ensemble for right now. If they can do that and keep the quality of laughs that were tonight's episode, things will be golden. 

[jlove]

2 hours ago, Gbb said:

 This wasn't a selfless act on his part. It was, however, initially motivated more by love than lust. I wouldn't expect anything else from them. I'm happy about that. But the lust got there. Amy's hair didn't blow itself up. Someone must have been moving her rather... vigorously. 

Aaand I'm back in my happy place. 

Yes, this.  I've been married 18 years.  I definitely don't consider myself anywhere on the asexual spectrum nor do I think of sex with my husband as "just coitus."

That being said sex is something I pretty much never go into based on lust.  Never have.  I do it for love, for emotional connection and yes, pretty much all of time because he wants to (even when I initiate it is with his needs and wants in mind, rarely my own desire.)

That being said, once things get moving I am very much all in and enjoy it a lot.

Even if Sheldon went into it with the desire, not so much for physical gratification, but more to show love to Amy and share that emotional connection with her I'm a happy camper.  And the results seem to speak for themselves that, though motivated by more than hormones (thank god because I want it to be more than that for Shamy), once they arrived at that place physically they gave it to each other well, and enjoyed it.  

Edited December 18, 2015 by jlove

[Desdemona]

R.I.P. Desdemona

She died of too much Shamy happiness.

[jjulia]

 

Behind the scene with Maiym!

http://groknation.com/hollywood/behind-the-scenes-with-mayim/

 

[BBTGUY]

And lets be real, when Shamy move in together I'm sure sex will happen. All I need is a scene where Sheldon and Amy are together intimately and Sheldon gets caught by the rest of the gang with his pants down. I would die of laughter lol

[stardustmelody]

I think they are trying to measure whether fans take to the idea of a "sexual" Sheldon and are waiting for reaction to this episode.  They also know they need to write story for other characters who have been very back burner while Shamy were center for many episodes.   So these few episodes before the 200th one gives them time to see the reaction, the ratings, the reception to Sheldon having had sex, and allows them to write stories for other characters.   However, we know they plan something with the ring (yes, likely engagement and are even hinting at future marriage) so it is just a matter of taking in the data and from there deciding where to go.  But they are going to see based on polls all over, critic commentary and fan reaction thus far that this was a highly liked episode and one that everyone is happy with.   So that could open up a lot more story for them than trying to keep Sheldon the same as he has been for nine years.   They can now write him in many more directions than in the past.   

I am not worried (yet)....so far I think they are  knowing where they kind of would like to go but want to see if the audience will be there with them...and so far they seem to be.....so it will all be good.

[jlove]

1 hour ago, stardustmelody said:

I guess I took the THR write-up differently.  I looked at it as they could go several ways with Sheldon and one of those could be that he realizes he wants sex more than he expects.

It seems to me that Chuck is saying that for now, so soon after, he is able to still compartmentalize his relationship with Amy from work, playtime with the boys, etc.  But it will be interesting to see if he can still be successful at doing so and not let wanting sex with Amy become more dominant.   I could be misinterpreting this, but it sounds like they are still trying to figure out where the most comedy will come from.   Seeing  Sheldon remain stoic is not nearly as interesting as watching him struggle with urges and desires and try to stuff those into "compartments" based on "agreements", etc. and then "breaking" his rules because he can't keep up with them and so rationalizes ways to break the rules.    

Whoa, hadn't read that quote yet.  To me that sounds like the writers agree that there is s real possibility it COULD become a dominating thing for Sheldon.  Not to say it will, but that doesn't sound like a group of writers who are trying to tell the story that he really doesn't think seems is all that great and is just having coitus to make Amy happy once a year.   :-)

Edited December 18, 2015 by jlove

[mirs1]

I've not seen the episode yet, but "thanks God Youtube exsts", so I think I've covered 70% of it, and 100% of Shamy part. I think it was a really good episode, it may be my favourite one this season, really enjoyed the parts I watched! It is very clear the struggle the writers have made to keep both of them, and Sheldon in particular, IC. They succeeded, IMO, and it was a good choice, the episode for me was perfectly done. But, I can see how some of us may be disappointed to some extent. As others have said, I'm happy to hear other persons' opinions, even if sometimes I don't share them. It's the reason why I'm in this forum; if I wanted to listen to my own opinion only, why bother to struggle with essays in a language which is not my native one? If we can discuss in a friendly and nice way, being in this forum is part of the fun I get from TBBT. That being said, I think that the episode perfectly pictures who Sheldon is; I mean, for me what "lust" is and how it may be expressed is a very personal thing. Being myself a person who keeps her own emotions and desires pretty much under control and that finds very difficult to let it go, I can relate with this part of Sheldon's character. I didn't see a man who was doing it just for pleasing his woman, that's for me not Sheldon. He never does something he doesn't want to. I saw a man who was expressing his desire in his own way, according to his personality. Sex was never important to him (using latest Lorre's words out of choice), it became an option and now a reality just because of Amy and I got the impression that he loves as well as desires her, but I never thought that he was going to go nuts after her, at least in the part of the show that we saw on screen...The subtle looks he gave her when she entered the bedroom, the awkward smile when they both were in bed, the second kiss on the couch, those for me are enough hints of his desires at that point, when he was still under control and with his guard on. Her sex hair and his looks afterwords show me that he got there at some point (pun intended, of course) but he could "let it go" and be out of control only while doing it, when the rational part of his personality was completely overwhelmed. That's my take, maybe I'm biased because that's how things work for me...As for the line about the next birthday, we are underlining the fact Sheldon says it, but not the part in which Amy answers "That works for me..." If it works for her, why we would be concerned about? Who are we to say what's right or wrong in their sex life? And, bottom line, I think it won't work for neither of them...

[stardustmelody]

1 minute ago, jlove said:

Whoa, hadn't read that quote yet.  To me that sounds like the writers agree that there is s real possibility it COULD become a dominating thing for Sheldon.  Not to say it will, but that doesn't sound like a group of writers who are trying to tell the story that he really doesn't think see is all that great and is just having contusion to make Amy happy once a year.   :-)

Exactly!

[Soopysue]

One word - Perfection !

Absolutely  loved the whole episode, Jim and Mayims acting was amazing !!!!!

I thought there was so much love, understanding and thoughtfulness from both of them .

The balance of the tender scenes with the funny scenes , I think this could possibly be my favourite episode ever , Wow just wow !

Kazzie called it perfect and she was 100% right  

Edited December 18, 2015 by Soopysue

[rachelshamyfan]

I loved the nervousness of them in bed and then Sheldon being the one to calm Amy's nerves

 

IT WAS PRETTY MUCH PERFECT

[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

13 minutes ago, Soopysue said:

One word - Perfection !

Absolutely  loved the whole episode, Jim and Mayims acting was amazing !!!!!

I thought there was so much love, understanding and thoughtfulness from both of them .

The balance of the tender scenes with the funny scenes , I think this could possibly be my favourite episode ever , Wow just wow !

Kazzie called it perfect and she was 100% right  

I've just this second ran out of likes  Quoting so I can com back to ya later  

[notchinc]

Mayim

When Sheldon shows up with flowers and the door is chained, in the first rehearsal, Jim opened the door so hard it broke the lock clear off the door. They fixed it right away but he made sure to be gentler every other time.

They should have kept that!!!!  

[Listgirl]

Loved the episode; so well crafted. 

Adored PP soooo funny and cute too. 

Adored that every character was having a good time/week for one reason or another (except Stuart: but not relevant) Like the empathy the girls showed for example. After weeks of angsty stuff so lovely that all the gang are reconciling again doing their thing not just Shamy. 

Loved the bladder check reference. It's not the first time a Sheldonism has been adopted by the others into their MO. (Leonard realising he wants Thai food with Penny as its Thai food night lol)

and of course adored the intimacy build up and bedroom scenes. The acting was awesome and Jim managed to navigate keeping Sheldon IC majestically. I think the no hug was a beat well played in the end as there's not much you can show of bedroom activities in this type of show and they perhaps need to keep a move or two up their sleeves for further stories/episodes as Kazzie suggested. When you see this episode in the context of all the hugging and kissing the week before it's possible they felt they didn't need show that beat again so soon. Amy's blissed out state said it all. I doubt she could move anyway and Raj mirrors her situation with his comment. And the take home message from the post coital chat: he enjoyed his first time so Amy gets a guarantee that there will be a next time. In that moment that's all she needs. Finally running time may also have been an issue as that episode is wall to wall gold, just couldn't cram in anything else

Perfection  

 

Edited December 18, 2015 by Listgirl

[2L344]

Watched it twice back to back and loved it! I think I've said it before but as much as I was looking forward to Shamy finally consummating their relationship, I was more looking forward to the interactions leading up to the bedroom. I wasn't disappointed!

* Sheldon hitting his knees and praying and about to make promises he can't keep when he is interrupted by Howard finally getting into the website to buy SW tickets, and Sheldon explains "...and I'm going to continue not believing!"  Just hilarious!

* Bob Newhart. Bob Newhart. did I say Bob Newhart? More of him please! " I don't think I control it" when he responds to Sheldon's question as to why he was back. I love his sarcasm in every scene, nails it. Trying to gut himself with a light saber when Sheldon asks for advice about his first time being with a woman. Yesssssss!

* the "knock knock knock" jokes, both when Penny and Bernadette screw with Sheldon at 4B and also when he knocks at 314 with "knock knock knock Birthday Girl" had me rolling!

* "You shut your damn mouth!"....I miss THIS Amy a lot!

* One of the best lines of the night goes to Wil Wheaton! "Live long and SUCK IT!"

* The guys nervousness at the premier in comparison to Amy's nervousness, and Wil's comment that "it's just a movie". Very cleverly done and funny as hell.

* Amy running around lightin candles anticipating Sheldon's arrival was sweet. And she sets herself up on the couch all cool-like when Sheldon knocks, only to have the moment stymied when she had forgotten to remove the security chain is priceless. I love the sound of a startled Sheldon when he tried opening the door lol! Poor guy was nervous enough as it is without the chain preventing his entrance.

I was a little disappointed that along with the flowers he didn't greet Amy, his girlfriend whom he was planning to have sex with for the first time, with a kiss. This, and the fact that the post-coitus cuddle hug was cut, shows me that the writers don't feel Sheldon has yet grasped some of those "little" concepts of intimacy that the rest of the real world has when it comes to romantic relationships. I'm sure it'll take some time and he will get there. At least I hope he does. But hey, let's give him props for all the planning and thinking he put into it.

which leads me to what jenafan alluded to in her post. I kind of agree that at least motivation-wise a lot of the evening belonged to Amy in Sheldon's eye. He talks to Proton about how nervous he was about not being overwhelmed and ruining the moment. I'm sure this is for Amy's sake not his. He speaks to Penny off camera about advice and pointers. Again, I believe this is geared toward Amy's satisfaction, not his. And yes, he is "gifting" his genitals to her, not taking hers for him (man that sounds weird, sorry lol!)...this is Amy's birthday, he wants her to understand she is important to him, and he gives up SW for her and meticulously plans a wonderful evening for her to include flowers and a lost balloon, dinner (that never happens) and of course topping off the evening with HER gift, sex.

Im not suggesting Sheldon didn't want sex too, I believe he does. He finds Amy attractive, desirable, and I believe he's been very curious about the whole affair for some time. BUT, I believe his mind was more on making Amy happy not himself and he was being selfless towards this goal. In the end, we have a very satisfied Amy and a pleasantly surprised Sheldon. Mayim said in her Grok post that the post-coitus remark about "can't wait until her next birthday to do it again" was played as a joke for laughs...I believe her, and I think Shamy will find themselves at it again sooner rather than later. That Genie is out of the bottle, and pleasantly surprised Sheldon is gonna wanna rub that lamp again soon (pun intended).

THIS is the kind of episode I think a lot of us have been waiting for, not just because of the loss of the "V" card with Shamy, and all the sweetness of that scene (which it is!), but also because this is the kind of old school TBBT we've come to love!

More of this please!

Edited December 18, 2015 by 2L344

[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

I'd be interested to know how they do the Lightsaber gags for the audience if anyone knows?

[notchinc]

Did you see the photo of Meemaw behind Bob on the left on the dresser!?!?!?  The production staff is awesome!!!