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15 minutes ago, jenafan said: Overall, a very good episode.  

The Shamy coitus was welcome, but I spent more time laughing than melting at the Shamy scenes.  

For one, Sheldon is still clueless.   I cannot believe he had to ask Bernie and Penny if Amy would actually want coitus with him.   Then after so many years of mocking sex, he looked stunned that the girls were questioning his consideration and readiness for it.   Normally, Penny would be like "Finally. Yes.  Go for it."   However, she was actually feeling him out to see if he was sure.    When he acknowledged that it was settled and he would give Amy his genitals for her birthday, he didn't seemed enthused, but more relieved that he found the answer he was seeking and his mind was finally made up about it.

As already stated, it seemed to me that Sheldon was doing it mostly for Amy because he wanted to make her happy and show her how much she means to him, not because he wanted sex, per say.   He made up his mind and went along with his decision, but if it didn't happen, I don't think it would have bothered him at all.    

I'm not trying to be a downer here.   I loved everything they did, but I didn't get the romantic or desire vibes from Sheldon as I had hoped.   It appeared to me like he felt this was something he had to do to make it right for Amy and to take their relationship to the next level.  To me, he is still the same Sheldon as always, but he is thinking about his decisions and making a purposeful attempt not to take Amy for granted and to show her how much she means to him.   As much as Sheldon loves Amy and tries to show his feelings, when left to his own devices, it seems he will always be somewhat methodical rather than idealistic about it.

The fact they cut the cuddling at the end kind of sealed it for me that although Sheldon enjoyed their physical activity, and it was good for both of them, he is still somewhat reserved in expressing himself on an intimate level.  Our romantic hearts want to call it lovemaking, but I think what has been said in the interviews is correct.   To Sheldon, it is in fact just coitus.   If Amy had never entered his life, he'd have no desire whatsoever to ever engage and would have been content to evolve into a superior being to live forever or die as a virgin.

I want to reiterate that I loved what they did, but I got myself hyped up for more than what we got from Sheldon's side.  Perhaps others' view points can help me to see something that I'm not.

On another note, I would have thought Amy would have been more excited about the flowers, after making such a big deal about it last Season, but perhaps the other gift over-shadowed it.

 

Jena, I almost always agree with your take on things, but not this time for the reasons I outlined in my post above. No one pushed Sheldon to this (besides his own subconscious), no one was pressuring him. Things with Amy were better than ever. He did it because he (and Little Sheldon) wanted to, and yes, because he loves Amy and knew it would make her happy.  Of course, he wasn't sure how well it would go or even if he would enjoy it when push came to shove (pun sort of intended). What 37 year old virgin with his hang ups would be?

I'm sorry you were disappointed, but the last scene proved to me he was more than happy with his choice, and it was good for him too. 

I liked his words to PP, "This is an important night for us.". Not just Amy but for both. He wanted it, too.

BTW...my comment from a couple days ago about being sick of discussing Sheldon's "asexuality" apparently rubbed someone the wrong way based on someone's post. All I can say is it was never personal and if you read my comments completely you would know that, others agree with me, and don't ever threaten me on this forum again. It's childish, makes others afraid to speak their mind on here, and totally uncalled for.

With that, one shall remain nameless, I will ignore you as others do. I would rather use my energy to debate one of my fave ships.

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3 minutes ago, April said:

I'm digging through some of Mayim's behind the scenes stuff on Grok Nation and their twitter. LMAO

I hope we see that in the bloopers reel next year. ahahahaha

OMG CAN YOU TWO BE ANY MORE ADORABLE???? (Also, getting reminded of early S9: "Amy, I'd like to remind you we made a baby together!")

Mayim, please! lol

You two nailed all of them! hehe

Oh thank goodness!

Thanks April, which kiss is she referring to, do you know ?? 

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28 minutes ago, nickelette424 said: I disagree here.  I think maybe some are missing that HE WANTS AND NEEDS to show Amy how he feels about her.  He wants this as well, even if a lot of that comes from the fact that he knows it will make her happy.  Making someone happy isn't something that it is just for that someone.  It's not a totally selfless act.  We get something out of it as it makes us happy and feel good as well.  There are different ways and reasons why people feel desire or turned on or whatever and here I got the impression that Sheldon's desire for sex came from the need to express to her how he feels.  Some people have sex just to an itch scratched.  Some have sex because they need it as an expression of how they feel.

Also, I found Sheldon extremely romantic.  That whole first scene of them in bed was so beautiful, intimate and romantic.  I found his words of comfort when she was so nervous she seemed near tears, "We can find out together", to be one of the sweetest, most romantic things ever uttered on this show.  His gentle calm to me spoke volumes that he was so sure, so happy and so at peace with what was about to happen.  It is also important to note that he said that this was an important night for BOTH of them, not just her.

No worries.  I think more people are with you than you think.  I see a lot of happy posters here.

I just want to clarify that I never said I wasn't happy.  I loved the episode.   I love where Shamy are at, and I plan to continue writing about it.    I just had some concerns about some of my impressions on Sheldon's actions.

Now I feel bad that expressing myself is harshing everyone's buzz.    I never meant to do that, nor does it mean I am not with you all.  I'm sorry.

I went back and rewatched the episode, and I see things a little more clearly, especially the bold part in your statement.

22 minutes ago, lpm said: If you didn't know the scene was there, you wouldn't have been disappointed because you wouldn't have known.

A very good point you make.   Now I understand why some choose to go spoiler free.

Jena, never be afraid of expressing your opinion. Most on this site will show you their side but not condemn you for it.

Your views are one of my faves to read. I am sometimes too blunt.

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3 minutes ago, Soopysue said:

Thanks April, which kiss is she referring to, do you know ?? 

This is from her live tweeting so I'm not sure.

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57 minutes ago, mphs95 said:

Jena, never be afraid of expressing your opinion. Most on this site will show you their side but not condemn you for it.

Your views are one of my faves to read. I am sometimes too blunt.

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Thank you.  As I've mentioned before.  I don't mind opposing opinions.  

I don't like upsetting people or killing happy moods because I express myself. I always feel the need to apologize for another's reaction to the disagreement, not the disagreement itself. 

Regarding the rude poster, even with that one I try to be polite and lighten the mood, but sometimes people want to be grumps if they can't get others to come to their POV instead of respecting others' different perspective.

I'm loving all the positive views about Sheldon's actions last night & the new interviews that have come out.   I loved the episode and all the Sheldon moments, but I now feel more confident that he did want it for himself,  which I didn't feel at first viewing. 

Sometimes I go in with too much expectation.  I get nervous because I do write FF, and my portrayal of him might be a little off, based on my perceptions as much as I try to keep him IC.  

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3 hours ago, YlvaBorealis89 said:

While we're on the topic of losing one's virginity, I thought I might lose my "essay virginity". Whoa, I'm a little nervous actually. Okay, here goes:

What I enjoyed most about this episode was that in the midst of all the jokes and laughs (and there were plenty of them! Good ones at that!) there was a healthy portion of realism – in writing as well as execution.

As Sheldon himself tells Penny and Bernadette he’s struggled with intimacy throughout his life, and the concerns he voices are valid. “It’s an important night for both of us” he tells Professor Proton, “and I’ve never done this before. I’m scared I’ll be overwhelmed and ruin everything”.

As hilarious as some of these scenes come across they are also surprisingly poignant, at least to me. It’s a big step for anyone to share one’s body with another person, but for someone who’s essentially spent his entire life in fear of said body it’s a gargantuan task to undertake, one that might actually force him to re-evaluate who he is and how he’s chosen to lead his life. As always, Sheldon approaches this with pragmatism and organization – it’s how he’s always done things and this is no different, and when he has a feeling he knows it. Without hesitation he once again proclaims his love for Amy and lowers his guards enough to actually ask for advice on how to make it perfect for her. It’s incredibly brave, mature, and unselfish of him, and really does confirm that he is – as he says – ready to be intimate with the woman he loves.

Amy cannot believe her luck of course, and for a few blissful seconds she is so wrapped up in her cocoon of love and euphoria that she forgets to stop and really think through what is going to happen. It’s like when you’ve dreamt for years to go sky-diving and you’ve seen pictures and movies and read books, and you’ve imagined yourself up among the clouds and it’s all so beautiful and mind-blowing. But once in that plane you realize it’s four kilometers between you and the ground and what you thought would be a liberating experience becomes frightening instead.

Once in bed together, Amy is so nervous she’s on the verge of crying. She hasn’t had more than a day to think this through, unlike Sheldon. And one tends to forget that while they’re very much alike, they are essentially different people. Sheldon’s expectations are realistic: he knows it might not be perfect – after all, none of them has any experience whatsoever and some fumbling is to be expected – and he also know that it’s okay because they will learn, together. It will be alright. Amy however is afraid she might have set her expectations too high and she’s just realized Sheldon might not be the one who “ruins” it – but Sheldon steps in (for once acting as the voice of reason) and assures her that the most important thing is that they’re in this together. The rest will come in time. Amy’s smile couldn’t say “I love you” more if she tried, and they lean in for a tender kiss that seals their bond and opens the door to a new era in their life together.

The aftermath is both sweet and hilarious, but it still gets a very important message across: they’ve overcome this obstacle together and they were both happy with the end-result. Sheldon quietly but happily contemplates the events of the evening while Amy is lost in her bubble of bliss. They’re different alright, but they’re different together. And that’s what it’s always been about with Shamy.

 

Congrats on losing your essay virginity! Loved it! Especially the bolded parts.

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Hahahahah. Jim/Sheldon's face when Penny breaks the wine glass is hysterical. He looks like he's alllllmmmmmoooost going to break and bust out laughing, but gets control of himself. So funny! Need to find a gif of this!

This combined with Penny's reaction to the "you shut your damn mouth!" makes me giggle every time!

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I've just watched the whole episode a couple of times; this morning before work I got to watch some youtube videos, but of course they were out of order, I had the gist it was really good, but now I can say it was fantastic, one of the best ever!!! Everything is perfect for me, sweet but not sappy  for the Shamy part and really I found in it whatever I was looking for.  I'll be checking also some reviews and fan opinions over the internet. It seems to me that TPTB were worried about nothing, almost everybody liked the episode and I saw in the rating thread that it got also good ratings...I mean, all this concern in the interview to whether the public was ready and "don't worry, we won't change the characters" (which is pretty fine, I fell in love with those character for who they are, I don't want to change them...) but it seems to me that for the "general" public it was not a huge deal if they got physical...I remember that when for the premiere there were a lot of complaints on line; of course most of them came from haters, people not watching the show anymore or just trolling; but now there is almost nothing about it, as even the usual trolls or haters have nothing bad to say about the episode!!!LOL!!!

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4 hours ago, April said:

Oh how I hate this quote thingy !!!!

i was trying to quote Kazzie not April, I'm confused lol !!

Anyway - I know how amazing is this kiss - yip open mouthed too !!!!! 

Ive been looking at it all day -  and will continue all night :icon_cheesygrin:

IVE JUST REALISED THIS NOW READS LIKE APRIL WROTE AND I QUOTED HER !!!! Sorry I can't fix it :( 

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1 hour ago, MAH_B said:

Congrats on losing your essay virginity! Loved it! Especially the bolded parts.

Thank you so much!! Now excuse me while I go tend to my theoretical epic sex hair...

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Ok, so I just got to rewatch (some parts several times, not gonna lie!)  Amy's voice at the end is HOARSE.  I guess the "about two hours in bliss" Molaro talked about is more than enough to have that effect.  omg 

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