Jump to content
The Big Bang Theory Forums
Sign in to follow this  
Tensor

[Spoilers] Shamy: Season 9

Recommended Posts

2 hours ago, joyceraye said:

For me it was the hand-holding that was touching. It looked so tender and sweet, more intimate than a cuddle in many ways.

I loved their expressions in the post-coitus scene and the way they were holding hands seemed incredibly sweet, but also with almost this sense of teamwork like, "we just had amazing sex and now we're gonna take on the world!" :icon_cheesygrin:

  • Like 6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
29 minutes ago, MJistheBOMB said:

I wish there really was Shamy Con....or at least BigBangTheory Con. LOL.

Oh if there'd ever be a Shamy Con I'd swim across the ocean to get there! 
(Fine, I'd use the plane, but that doesn't sound as dramatic as swimming across the ocean..)

  • Like 8

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, MJistheBOMB said:

I wish there really was Shamy Con....or at least BigBangTheory Con. LOL.

This thread is our daily ShamyCon!

3 hours ago, Stephen Hawking said:

Actually, I didn't huh.gif 

A girl (or boy, who knows) can mistake a knee, a remote or another thing by a guy's junk sometimes. I thought you would be the first one to understand but ok.

2 hours ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said:

687474703a2f2f696d616765732e73696d706c79

Oh man, if it really happens I'll have to learn to swim or lose my fear of flying! lol

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So i'm sure you guys have discussed the episode like a million times from all angles by now, but i thought i'd add my 2 cents : D
(even if it's probably a bit unpopular opinion )

So i literally loved most of it... Then something in the end kind of upset me and what upset me more is that i couldn't figure out what! At first i thought it was the cut scene, but then after a while i realized that's not it.
(And regarding the cut scene, it's not its absence that has upset me.. It's the fact that writers have decided it to remove it for a certain reason, and i thought that reason was not to show Sheldon's softer/in love/at ease with sex side and that has really upset me. But then i was reading this thread having not logged on, and someone pointed out - don't remember who, sorry - that it's probably because if it wasn't cut, the whole 'mirroring' joke wouldn't be so .. well, mirroring, and it wouldn't be as funny. So rn i also think that's the main reason, and it's made me feel much much better about it being cut... Cause at first, i was really sad, and i know i'm in the minority but the kiss in bed didn't make up for it for me...).

So anyway. I felt because i didn't like the ending, it spoiled the all episode for me in a way : ( And i felt bad about it for a while, but then i watched a bunch of S6 & S7 episodes trying to get distracted, and omg the contrast of Sheldon then and Sheldon now is just unparalleled. And i just felt much better and was able to enjoy the episode again, and i thought maybe i was paranoid before.. I really couldn't understand why i didn't like the ending. I mean it had 'few hours' and Amy's sex hair and them holding hands, so i was supposed to love it.

And then yesterday i watched the episode in my language and it all made sense! They've translated a couple of Shamy lines somewhat different, and that was a HUGE deal for me! Instead of "well i've enjoyed that more than i thought i would" it was  "I didn't even think i would like it that much" (and said in a softer voice ) and instead of Amy's ecstatic "that works for me" it was "i don't mind " in a much calmer voice. And just those 2 lines changed, and i immediatey LOVED the ending completely... Which made realize, that way (to me) they seem much more balanced and on the same page.
While with their original lines / voices / the way they speak, it makes me feel like Sheldon was much less into it than Amy and it's really upset me...
Actually i think Jim's performance there was ambiguous, and i think it' s on purpose - after reading some of the latest Molaro interviews + thinking about the fact that there's no Shamy in the same room in the 2 next episodes, and that there's a break, i honestly think that actually, the writers did that deliberately to buy themselves some time to watch the audience reactions as that whole things, and to decide which direction to go next.

It also makes me happy (since the absolute majority's reaction to this is good lol ) cause i think it indicates they're not done with this storyline... I mean, i always kinda thought that they see it as culmination (hence the reluctance to show it for so long), that after that it will be just like 'ok... now shamy have coitus just like everybody else'. That there will be no comedy about it, that they were mostly doing it for the shippers and that after it's actually happened they would not really mention it much (just state they're doing it on occasion and that's it) in fear of changing Sheldon too much, making him lose his cynism and become hippie dippy... But now i think maybe they do plan to have some comedy with it, if the whole coitus thing is received well. Like maybe Sheldon actually planning to wait a year (wtf his reasons would be though, i don't get it) and then realizing he doesn't want to, and trying out hints but Amy just doesn't get it ... or something like that....

Anyway my point is that i'm hopeful and not sad anymore : D And i've been watching clips from the episode on youtube today, and i am overwhelmed at how much support Shamy has with general public... Like literally i don't know any ship that has that much love from casual viewers. I think this is so sweet : )

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, brilliantfool said:

And then yesterday i watched the episode in my language and it all made sense! 

Nothing speaks to the heart better than hearing something in your own language.  I'm glad you got the chance. 

The same goes for love.  Sheldon and Amy broke up because they weren't speaking and understanding each other's love language.  Sheldon was trying to communicate with Amy through analogies and metaphors he understands.  She needed to hear and have him show her exactly how he felt.   The break up taught Sheldon that he needs to express himself from his heart and taught Amy that she needs to seek clarification of the meaning behind what he is trying to say before reacting.

It will always be a work in progress for them.

Edited by jenafan
  • Like 8

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, MJistheBOMB said:

Yeah, I think about it now and I can see how the cuddle may have been too much at this point in time. This is probably just another thing with Shamy that we'll get to see a progression of. After their first time having sex, we get them holding hands, but if you guys notice, they can't even look each other directly in the eyes, which I find so cute because it's like they're both a little shy, despite what they had just done.

In the future, they won't be as shy about it.  We will probably get to see them cuddling and able to look each other in the eye and maybe even a few sweet kisses thrown in? ;-)

Bring it on, writers! I can't wait.

Yes, after thinking, that brings a new expectation and excitation for the future episodes.

Edited by CentralPerk
  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
26 minutes ago, brilliantfool said:

So i'm sure you guys have discussed the episode like a million times from all angles by now, but i thought i'd add my 2 cents : D
(even if it's probably a bit unpopular opinion )

So i literally loved most of it... Then something in the end kind of upset me and what upset me more is that i couldn't figure out what! At first i thought it was the cut scene, but then after a while i realized that's not it.
(And regarding the cut scene, it's not its absence that has upset me.. It's the fact that writers have decided it to remove it for a certain reason, and i thought that reason was not to show Sheldon's softer/in love/at ease with sex side and that has really upset me. But then i was reading this thread having not logged on, and someone pointed out - don't remember who, sorry - that it's probably because if it wasn't cut, the whole 'mirroring' joke wouldn't be so .. well, mirroring, and it wouldn't be as funny. So rn i also think that's the main reason, and it's made me feel much much better about it being cut... Cause at first, i was really sad, and i know i'm in the minority but the kiss in bed didn't make up for it for me...).

So anyway. I felt because i didn't like the ending, it spoiled the all episode for me in a way : ( And i felt bad about it for a while, but then i watched a bunch of S6 & S7 episodes trying to get distracted, and omg the contrast of Sheldon then and Sheldon now is just unparalleled. And i just felt much better and was able to enjoy the episode again, and i thought maybe i was paranoid before.. I really couldn't understand why i didn't like the ending. I mean it had 'few hours' and Amy's sex hair and them holding hands, so i was supposed to love it.

And then yesterday i watched the episode in my language and it all made sense! They've translated a couple of Shamy lines somewhat different, and that was a HUGE deal for me! Instead of "well i've enjoyed that more than i thought i would" it was  "I didn't even think i would like it that much" (and said in a softer voice ) and instead of Amy's ecstatic "that works for me" it was "i don't mind " in a much calmer voice. And just those 2 lines changed, and i immediatey LOVED the ending completely... Which made realize, that way (to me) they seem much more balanced and on the same page.
While with their original lines / voices / the way they speak, it makes me feel like Sheldon was much less into it than Amy and it's really upset me...
Actually i think Jim's performance there was ambiguous, and i think it' s on purpose - after reading some of the latest Molaro interviews + thinking about the fact that there's no Shamy in the same room in the 2 next episodes, and that there's a break, i honestly think that actually, the writers did that deliberately to buy themselves some time to watch the audience reactions as that whole things, and to decide which direction to go next.

It also makes me happy (since the absolute majority's reaction to this is good lol ) cause i think it indicates they're not done with this storyline... I mean, i always kinda thought that they see it as culmination (hence the reluctance to show it for so long), that after that it will be just like 'ok... now shamy have coitus just like everybody else'. That there will be no comedy about it, that they were mostly doing it for the shippers and that after it's actually happened they would not really mention it much (just state they're doing it on occasion and that's it) in fear of changing Sheldon too much, making him lose his cynism and become hippie dippy... But now i think maybe they do plan to have some comedy with it, if the whole coitus thing is received well. Like maybe Sheldon actually planning to wait a year (wtf his reasons would be though, i don't get it) and then realizing he doesn't want to, and trying out hints but Amy just doesn't get it ... or something like that....

Anyway my point is that i'm hopeful and not sad anymore : D And i've been watching clips from the episode on youtube today, and i am overwhelmed at how much support Shamy has with general public... Like literally i don't know any ship that has that much love from casual viewers. I think this is so sweet : )

I had this same problem. To me, they could show a little bit more of excitment from Sheldon after the end. But then someone pointed out that saying that line that way was a way to show us that Sheldon enjoyed the experience and still make him sound as Sheldon, the quirky weirdo guy. 

"I enjoyed that more than I thought I would" doesn't mean that he thought he wasn't going to like it. In my interpretation, means that he knew he would like it, but not that much. Ever since he considered having sex he thought it as an act of love (double kill: he abdicated Star Wars and gave to his girl the gift she most wanted for a long time), but in the process, it became about lust too.

And when they finished (for the last time) he had this epiphany. It was better than he thought. Just like when he was scared of the blue jay and then became a mommy

For me, as I said before, it's a way to keep Sheldon in his quirks and his own way without betraying his own personality. A way to don't sexualize the character: yeah, he had sex and he loved it, but that's not ruling his life from now on. He is still himself, still the genius. He still thinks with his upper head, but when his woman needs him, he is ready to give her what she wants.

  • Like 6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest

I think it is a smart move on the writers' part and the producers to wait and see what the reaction of the audience would be to Shamy coitus.  Obviously, from what I have read (here, on social media, on youtube) that it has been pretty positive.  I think they now have to decide in which direction they will go with this.  They have been pretty good at trying to keep the characters in character and not change them too much.  Any change seems to be organic.  Remember, they have been on 8.5 seasons and easily could get into a rut with things.  I think what they are trying to do is avoid the classic "jump the shark".   It may happen but so far, imo, they haven't.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
22 minutes ago, brilliantfool said:

So i'm sure you guys have discussed the episode like a million times from all angles by now, but i thought i'd add my 2 cents : D
(even if it's probably a bit unpopular opinion )

So i literally loved most of it... Then something in the end kind of upset me and what upset me more is that i couldn't figure out what! At first i thought it was the cut scene, but then after a while i realized that's not it.
(And regarding the cut scene, it's not its absence that has upset me.. It's the fact that writers have decided it to remove it for a certain reason, and i thought that reason was not to show Sheldon's softer/in love/at ease with sex side and that has really upset me. But then i was reading this thread having not logged on, and someone pointed out - don't remember who, sorry - that it's probably because if it wasn't cut, the whole 'mirroring' joke wouldn't be so .. well, mirroring, and it wouldn't be as funny. So rn i also think that's the main reason, and it's made me feel much much better about it being cut... Cause at first, i was really sad, and i know i'm in the minority but the kiss in bed didn't make up for it for me...).

So anyway. I felt because i didn't like the ending, it spoiled the all episode for me in a way : ( And i felt bad about it for a while, but then i watched a bunch of S6 & S7 episodes trying to get distracted, and omg the contrast of Sheldon then and Sheldon now is just unparalleled. And i just felt much better and was able to enjoy the episode again, and i thought maybe i was paranoid before.. I really couldn't understand why i didn't like the ending. I mean it had 'few hours' and Amy's sex hair and them holding hands, so i was supposed to love it.

And then yesterday i watched the episode in my language and it all made sense! They've translated a couple of Shamy lines somewhat different, and that was a HUGE deal for me! Instead of "well i've enjoyed that more than i thought i would" it was  "I didn't even think i would like it that much" (and said in a softer voice ) and instead of Amy's ecstatic "that works for me" it was "i don't mind " in a much calmer voice. And just those 2 lines changed, and i immediatey LOVED the ending completely... Which made realize, that way (to me) they seem much more balanced and on the same page.
While with their original lines / voices / the way they speak, it makes me feel like Sheldon was much less into it than Amy and it's really upset me...
Actually i think Jim's performance there was ambiguous, and i think it' s on purpose - after reading some of the latest Molaro interviews + thinking about the fact that there's no Shamy in the same room in the 2 next episodes, and that there's a break, i honestly think that actually, the writers did that deliberately to buy themselves some time to watch the audience reactions as that whole things, and to decide which direction to go next.

It also makes me happy (since the absolute majority's reaction to this is good lol ) cause i think it indicates they're not done with this storyline... I mean, i always kinda thought that they see it as culmination (hence the reluctance to show it for so long), that after that it will be just like 'ok... now shamy have coitus just like everybody else'. That there will be no comedy about it, that they were mostly doing it for the shippers and that after it's actually happened they would not really mention it much (just state they're doing it on occasion and that's it) in fear of changing Sheldon too much, making him lose his cynism and become hippie dippy... But now i think maybe they do plan to have some comedy with it, if the whole coitus thing is received well. Like maybe Sheldon actually planning to wait a year (wtf his reasons would be though, i don't get it) and then realizing he doesn't want to, and trying out hints but Amy just doesn't get it ... or something like that....

Anyway my point is that i'm hopeful and not sad anymore : D And i've been watching clips from the episode on youtube today, and i am overwhelmed at how much support Shamy has with general public... Like literally i don't know any ship that has that much love from casual viewers. I think this is so sweet : )

I understand your feelings. It was kinda what I felt. Personally, I prefer the kiss in the earworm episode, and the kiss in the train. And, yet this episode (the 11th) is perfect ! In so many ways. I love it but I felt also not completely satisfied and I don't know why. Yet it was funny, so tender, and well playing. Maybe it's because we have reach a goal.

But now I am even more excited to discover (and expect) in some future episodes the display of their affection, the mention of their new intimacy, and see them happy and always weird in their own lovely way. I want to see their complicity again and a little more tenderness between them, but not too hippy.

 

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
37 minutes ago, Ranger Rosa said:

I had this same problem. To me, they could show a little bit more of excitment from Sheldon after the end. But then someone pointed out that saying that line that way was a way to show us that Sheldon enjoyed the experience and still make him sound as Sheldon, the quirky weirdo guy. 

"I enjoyed that more than I thought I would" doesn't mean that he thought he wasn't going to like it. In my interpretation, means that he knew he would like it, but not that much. Ever since he considered having sex he thought it as an act of love (double kill: he abdicated Star Wars and gave to his girl the gift she most wanted for a long time), but in the process, it became about lust too.

And when they finished (for the last time) he had this epiphany. It was better than he thought. Just like when he was scared of the blue jay and then became a mommy

For me, as I said before, it's a way to keep Sheldon in his quirks and his own way without betraying his own personality. A way to don't sexualize the character: yeah, he had sex and he loved it, but that's not ruling his life from now on. He is still himself, still the genius. He still thinks with his upper head, but when his woman needs him, he is ready to give her what she wants.

yea i'm not saying i think that line meant he thought he'd hate it! I know it didn't. Basically, to me it would sound good if he said it differently.. You know, like with the voice he had after SIK in 7x15 or 9x10... But his tone, or voice, or way of speaking, idk what it was , made it sound not great for me = (

And i thought i was nitpicking or paranoid, but i was reading through previous pages just now and i saw koops and some other people mentioning the exact same thing ( i probably won't be able to express it as well as them  x D ) . But it's like, his demeanor, or looks, or voice, idk, kind of change pre-coitus and after-coitus. I kind of wanted him to be after coitus in the same way he was when they were kissing on the couch, or when he was waiting for her in bed, or after the kisses in the Earworm Reverberation (i think in those moments he's IC but also very into it ), but to me he looked very different. 

But like i said, i really do believe now it was writer's choice to be ambiguous in case the public's reaction is bad

31 minutes ago, CentralPerk said:

I understand your feelings. It was kinda what I felt. Personally, I prefer the kiss in the earworm episode, and the kiss in the train. And, yet this episode (the 11th) is perfect ! In so many ways. I love it but I felt also not completely satisfied and I don't know why. Yet it was funny, so tender, and well playing. Maybe it's because we have reach a goal.

But now I am even more excited to discover (and expect) in some future episodes the display of their affection, the mention of their new intimacy, and see them happy and always weird in their own lovely way. I want to see their complicity again and a little more tenderness between them, but not too hippy.

 

me too, nothing beats the kisses in the Earworm Reverberation to me! Idk why, maybe because they were hugging/embracing at the same time... But they were just perfection!

I thought that, i guess after Earworm we have just set our goals SUPER high! 

And i agree with the rest : )

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, brilliantfool said:

So i'm sure you guys have discussed the episode like a million times from all angles by now, but i thought i'd add my 2 cents : D
(even if it's probably a bit unpopular opinion )

So i literally loved most of it... Then something in the end kind of upset me and what upset me more is that i couldn't figure out what! At first i thought it was the cut scene, but then after a while i realized that's not it.
(And regarding the cut scene, it's not its absence that has upset me.. It's the fact that writers have decided it to remove it for a certain reason, and i thought that reason was not to show Sheldon's softer/in love/at ease with sex side and that has really upset me. But then i was reading this thread having not logged on, and someone pointed out - don't remember who, sorry - that it's probably because if it wasn't cut, the whole 'mirroring' joke wouldn't be so .. well, mirroring, and it wouldn't be as funny. So rn i also think that's the main reason, and it's made me feel much much better about it being cut... Cause at first, i was really sad, and i know i'm in the minority but the kiss in bed didn't make up for it for me...).

So anyway. I felt because i didn't like the ending, it spoiled the all episode for me in a way : ( And i felt bad about it for a while, but then i watched a bunch of S6 & S7 episodes trying to get distracted, and omg the contrast of Sheldon then and Sheldon now is just unparalleled. And i just felt much better and was able to enjoy the episode again, and i thought maybe i was paranoid before.. I really couldn't understand why i didn't like the ending. I mean it had 'few hours' and Amy's sex hair and them holding hands, so i was supposed to love it.

And then yesterday i watched the episode in my language and it all made sense! They've translated a couple of Shamy lines somewhat different, and that was a HUGE deal for me! Instead of "well i've enjoyed that more than i thought i would" it was  "I didn't even think i would like it that much" (and said in a softer voice ) and instead of Amy's ecstatic "that works for me" it was "i don't mind " in a much calmer voice. And just those 2 lines changed, and i immediatey LOVED the ending completely... Which made realize, that way (to me) they seem much more balanced and on the same page.
While with their original lines / voices / the way they speak, it makes me feel like Sheldon was much less into it than Amy and it's really upset me...
Actually i think Jim's performance there was ambiguous, and i think it' s on purpose - after reading some of the latest Molaro interviews + thinking about the fact that there's no Shamy in the same room in the 2 next episodes, and that there's a break, i honestly think that actually, the writers did that deliberately to buy themselves some time to watch the audience reactions as that whole things, and to decide which direction to go next.

It also makes me happy (since the absolute majority's reaction to this is good lol ) cause i think it indicates they're not done with this storyline... I mean, i always kinda thought that they see it as culmination (hence the reluctance to show it for so long), that after that it will be just like 'ok... now shamy have coitus just like everybody else'. That there will be no comedy about it, that they were mostly doing it for the shippers and that after it's actually happened they would not really mention it much (just state they're doing it on occasion and that's it) in fear of changing Sheldon too much, making him lose his cynism and become hippie dippy... But now i think maybe they do plan to have some comedy with it, if the whole coitus thing is received well. Like maybe Sheldon actually planning to wait a year (wtf his reasons would be though, i don't get it) and then realizing he doesn't want to, and trying out hints but Amy just doesn't get it ... or something like that....

Anyway my point is that i'm hopeful and not sad anymore : D And i've been watching clips from the episode on youtube today, and i am overwhelmed at how much support Shamy has with general public... Like literally i don't know any ship that has that much love from casual viewers. I think this is so sweet : )

This made me sad again...

Sorry I'm gonna see myself out...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just had a thought.  I think the writers are playing "hard-to-get" with us.  If a person is infatuated with someone, doesn't that special someone seem more enticing when slightly aloof.  The cool, casual emotional pullback of one half of our favorite ship is tantamount to making us want more, become more curious, intigued, beguiled.  Just as we wonder what our object of affection is thinking, feeling, we too wonder about the truth about the ship. The writers have us right where they want us, obsessed and tuning in for more.

Edited by AnnJ
  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, bluebird said:

Oh if there'd ever be a Shamy Con I'd swim across the ocean to get there! 
(Fine, I'd use the plane, but that doesn't sound as dramatic as swimming across the ocean..)

I think we should all take a SHIP! (S.S. Shamy!) :icon_cheesygrin:

image.gif.eddca014a9e04b796ea1ae86000e16

  • Like 7

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, FortCozyMcBlanket said:

I think we should all take a SHIP! (S.S. Shamy!) :icon_cheesygrin:

image.gif.eddca014a9e04b796ea1ae86000e16

I don't like boats because they make me seasick, but I can open an exception if this one is guided by Captain Jim (and now someone post a picture of him to our appreciation and delight).

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
31 minutes ago, Ranger Rosa said:

I don't like boats because they make me seasick, but I can open an exception if this one is guided by Captain Jim (and now someone post a picture of him to our appreciation and delight).

image.png.9e24f7cd256559535eed0b525561ae

  • Like 9

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.