Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 9

[April]

17 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

I thought it was kind of an off-screen tradition for Sheldon on Thanksgiving, (i.e., something the writers invented to make their date believable on that occasion). He even said "maybe this is the year I finally touch a starfish", which makes me believe that it is customary for them\him to go to the aquarium...Do you need to buy Aquarium tickets for a thanksgiving buffet more than six months in advance?

On a related note: there's also a line in 9x11 by Bernadette that he thought this Halloween he'd finally be able to touch the insides of a pumpkin - or something along those lines, don't remember her exact words. I love the implication that he has some sort of list with dares for himself to help him work through his issues and phobias. He may not always succeed but he's trying.

[Stephen Hawking]

29 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

He even said "maybe this is the year I finally touch a starfish"

Sheldon's into anal sex?  

[jlove]

20 minutes ago, April said:

On a related note: there's also a line in 9x11 by Bernadette that he thought this Halloween he'd finally be able to touch the insides of a pumpkin - or something along those lines, don't remember her exact words. I love the implication that he has some sort of list with dares for himself to help him work through his issues and phobias. He may not always succeed but he's trying.

And I enjoyed the implication that maybe they spent time carving pumpkins together this year, that maybe it was Sheldon getting to hang out with the gang for something, not just Amy like we saw before when they were all at Howardette's w/o Sheldon (and Leonard.)

[TateTheUnicorn]

Sheldon's into anal sex? [emoji3] 

How on earth did you get anal sex from touching a starfish?

[Stephen Hawking]

2 minutes ago, SaddoTate said:

How on earth did you get anal sex from touching a starfish?

Maybe it's just a Britishism, but http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chocolate+starfish&defid=285581

 

[AnnJ]

I watched "The Opening Night Excitation" again and just noticed a potentially loaded, delicious little detail.  When Professor Proton asks Sheldon about how it went and Sheldon assumes he is asking about Star Wars episode 7, Sheldon tells him he and Amy saw it "a few days" later. A FEW days.  Why wouldn't he go see it the next day?  Was he waiting for Amy to be available to share that experience with him?  Were they occupied in catching up on lost bedroom time?  Makes me certainly wonder

Edited December 28, 2015 by AnnJ

[jenafan]

38 minutes ago, AnnJ said:

I watched "The Opening Night Excitation" again and just noticed a potentially loaded, delicious little detail.  When Professor Proton asks Sheldon about how it went and Sheldon assumes he is asking about Star Wars episode 7, Sheldon tells him he and Amy saw it "a few days" later. A FEW days.  Why wouldn't he go see it the next day?  Was he waiting for Amy to be available to share that experience with him?  Were they occupied in catching up on lost bedroom time?  Makes me certainly wonder

I noticed this as well.   I assumed it took him that long to get a ticket because they were sold out.

However, what I liked was that Sheldon wanted to know why PP was there because he didn't need his advice anymore.   So, even though Sheldon went on about the movie, he wasn't seeking help for a dilemma.  In that alone, we get confirmation that post-coitus Shamy are doing just fine.   Sex is good, but it isn't everything, and its nice to get confirmation that they are doing things together outside of the bedroom.  

Between his madness and all his dreams helping him with his issues, this was probably the best sleep he's had in a long time, as PP had to call his name twice to even get him to acknowledge he was there.

Sheldon is still sleeping on his side.  So likely, he's still thinking about a lot of things, but he's happy.

For me it's just strange to see Sheldon alone in his bed now.   It seems he and Amy belong in the same room together.

 

[vonmar]

12 minutes ago, jenafan said:

I noticed this as well.   I assumed it took him that long to get a ticket because they were sold out.

However, what I liked was that Sheldon wanted to know why PP was there because he didn't need his advice anymore.   So, even though Sheldon went on about the movie, he wasn't seeking help for a dilemma.  In that alone, we get confirmation that post-coitus Shamy are doing just fine.   Sex is good, but it isn't everything, and its nice to get confirmation that they are doing things together outside of the bedroom.  

Between his madness and all his dreams helping him with his issues, this was probably the best sleep he's had in a long time, as PP had to call his name twice to even get him to acknowledge he was there.

Sheldon is still sleeping on his side.  So likely, he's still thinking about a lot of things, but he's happy.

For me it's just strange to see Sheldon alone in his bed now.   It seems he and Amy belong in the same room together.

 

I've thought about that scene a bit. I know it was done for laughs, but it was established by Proton himself, that he is Sheldon's subconscious, manifested.

So why would Sheldon manifest him for that conversation.  I think it was Sheldon trying to reassure himself that sex wasn't going to radically change him. I was intimate with Amy, then we went to the movies, I loved it and and she liked it fine.  Life went on.

It reminded me very much of his conversation with Leonard after the train kiss..he made a new friend, he kissed Amy and the nine-fingered conductor played the banjo.  Life went on.

He is figuring out that these new things will change his life, but not who he essentially is and that must be very reassuring to Sheldon.

[AnnJ]

34 minutes ago, vonmar said:

I've thought about that scene a bit. I know it was done for laughs, but it was established by Proton himself, that he is Sheldon's subconscious, manifested.

So why would Sheldon manifest him for that conversation.  I think it was Sheldon trying to reassure himself that sex wasn't going to radically change him. I was intimate with Amy, then we went to the movies, I loved it and and she liked it fine.  Life went on.

It reminded me very much of his conversation with Leonard after the train kiss..he made a new friend, he kissed Amy and the nine-fingered conductor played the banjo.  Life went on.

He is figuring out that these new things will change his life, but not who he essentially is and that must be very reassuring to Sheldon.

What you say is supported by the guys at the movies parallel scene.  I believe it was Lenard who says that even if it isn't good they will still be back tomorrow, and Will makes the pointment that it is taken too seriously. Life will go on as normal.

[TateTheUnicorn]

Just to inform any British shamys, locomotive manipulation is on twice (yes, twice!) today! :D

[Xbox1orPS4]

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[kerrycec03]

16 hours ago, vonmar said:

I've thought about that scene a bit. I know it was done for laughs, but it was established by Proton himself, that he is Sheldon's subconscious, manifested.

So why would Sheldon manifest him for that conversation.  I think it was Sheldon trying to reassure himself that sex wasn't going to radically change him. I was intimate with Amy, then we went to the movies, I loved it and and she liked it fine.  Life went on.

It reminded me very much of his conversation with Leonard after the train kiss..he made a new friend, he kissed Amy and the nine-fingered conductor played the banjo.  Life went on.

He is figuring out that these new things will change his life, but not who he essentially is and that must be very reassuring to Sheldon.

my exact take on that convo too.  I think because PP is technically Sheldon's inner thoughts, he knows some may wonder how it went, and he is peacefully in thoughts of sleep with dreams of Star Wars but deeper is his thoughts of being intimate with Amy.  And him sleeping so peacefully shows that he is perfectly content with it all.  So while on surface Star Wars is front & center (but including Amy in that epic event was so important too) his "sex life" is behind the scenes as it should be for him to stay IC.  Its not everything but like a secret treasure that held close to him. 

 

But also, mainly it was done for comedy gold.  It was a way to close up the story with many viewers wondering "what did Sheldon think of all of this"....

 

What I also loved about that convo is his acceptance of Amy's feelings of the Star Wars movie.  She thought it was fine, but instead of getting upset that she wasn't as passionate about it, he maturely says "she isn't as familiar with the franchise".  Like he loves the fact she shared it with him BUT no longer expects her to share the exact same excitement for the exact same things as him.  They both grew so much from all of this and it further establishes they are equals with their own thoughts & feelings BUT connected in that too more so then ever, or with anybody else. 

Edited December 29, 2015 by kerrycec03

[FortCozyMcBlanket]

1 hour ago, kerrycec03 said:

my exact take on that convo too.  I think because PP is technically Sheldon's inner thoughts, he knows some may wonder how it went, and he is peacefully in thoughts of sleep with dreams of Star Wars but deeper is his thoughts of being intimate with Amy.  And him sleeping so peacefully shows that he is perfectly content with it all.  So while on surface Star Wars is front & center (but including Amy in that epic event was so important too) his "sex life" is behind the scenes as it should be for him to stay IC.  Its not everything but like a secret treasure that held close to him. 

 

But also, mainly it was done for comedy gold.  It was a way to close up the story with many viewers wondering "what did Sheldon think of all of this"....

 

What I also loved about that convo is his acceptance of Amy's feelings of the Star Wars movie.  She thought it was fine, but instead of getting upset that she wasn't as passionate about it, he maturely says "she isn't as familiar with the franchise".  Like he loves the fact she shared it with him BUT no longer expects her to share the exact same excitement for the exact same things as him.  They both grew so much from all of this and it further establishes they are equals with their own thoughts & feelings BUT connected in that too more so then ever, or with anybody else. 

The only thing that my paranoid jerkbrain makes me worry about this scene is that I wondered if the line he said (bolded part) was a parallel to Sheldon saying he wasn't as passionate about sex as Amy had been beforehand (saying he's "not as familiar with the franchise") but he still liked it. Basically what I'm saying is I hope his feelings about sex aren't the same as Amy's feelings about Star Wars! 

And this is another reason I really want to see a future episode where Sheldon fails to restrain his sexual desire for Amy and keep to his schedule! 

[kerrycec03]

1 hour ago, FortCozyMcBlanket said:

The only thing that my paranoid jerkbrain makes me worry about this scene is that I wondered if the line he said (bolded part) was a parallel to Sheldon saying he wasn't as passionate about sex as Amy had been beforehand (saying he's "not as familiar with the franchise") but he still liked it. Basically what I'm saying is I hope his feelings about sex aren't the same as Amy's feelings about Star Wars! 

And this is another reason I really want to see a future episode where Sheldon fails to restrain his sexual desire for Amy and keep to his schedule! 

I totally disagree.  He knows that she isn't familiar with the "franchise" aka he knows 100% she was just as inexperienced as him so not more familiar at all.  I didn't read that line in that direction at all.  I saw nothing but positive from it as him accepting she doesn't have to be gun hoe into something like he is.  I do think we'll get some minor glimps deeper into the season of more physical feelings but for right now, they did the deed, they both enjoyed it in their own way (her glowing & giddy, him a subtle smile, relaxed state and a sense of pride) and are now 100% committed and connected to one another with zero doubts at the current moment. 

 

And the next big decisions like engagement & Living together I don't see coming up any time soon (not until the last 4 or so episodes of the season).  JMO though.

[Stephen Hawking]

20 hours ago, AnnJ said:

A FEW days.  Why wouldn't he go see it the next day?  Was he waiting for Amy to be available to share that experience with him?  Were they occupied in catching up on lost bedroom time?  Makes me certainly wonder

Maybe Amy needed to wait a few days, for her legs to start working properly again.  

[April]

1 hour ago, FortCozyMcBlanket said:

The only thing that my paranoid jerkbrain makes me worry about this scene is that I wondered if the line he said (bolded part) was a parallel to Sheldon saying he wasn't as passionate about sex as Amy had been beforehand (saying he's "not as familiar with the franchise") but he still liked it. Basically what I'm saying is I hope his feelings about sex aren't the same as Amy's feelings about Star Wars! 

But in a way they were and it's been pointed out in the episode itself with Amy's line about how she was waiting so long for this to happen and building it all up in her head. This is paralleled by the guys' hopes and expectations of the new Star Wars. Vice versa Amy doesn't have this fandom history with Star Wars - hence she wasn't going in with the same kind of fan glee and in the end probably liked it more than she thought she would. Likewise Sheldon never really had these kind of expectations towards sex. He didn't spend the last years desperately pining for it to happen, just like Amy didn't spend the last years desperately waiting for the new Star Wars film.

What I'm trying to say it that I do think they're sticking with the sex/Star Wars parallels but I don't think this is a bad thing. If you want to read really deep into the tag and see Amy liking Star Wars just fine as a sign that she probably won't become obsessed with Star Wars, then that would mean that, with the Star Wars parallels in place, likewise Sheldon won't become someone who's obsessed with sex. Well, honestly I think that's perfectly fine! I mean, he's obviously not repulsed by the act, he liked it more than he thought he would, he instantly marks "birthday sex with Amy" down as an annual event (lol) and even Lorre/Molaro have already said that they probably won't wait that long. There's a lot of leeway in between "no interest in sex" and "being a horndog" and like most people Sheldon is probably sitting comfortably somewhere in the middle.

1 hour ago, FortCozyMcBlanket said:

And this is another reason I really want to see a future episode where Sheldon fails to restrain his sexual desire for Amy and keep to his schedule! 

Oh yes, absolutely! I'd love that. lol

As Lorre has put it so nicely: It's now part of his psyche (and we saw that in form of PP) and he now has to figure out how to deal with that. I try not to get my hopes up too much but that basically sounds like a plot for an episode already. With Molaro mentioning the RA in some interview maybe that's how they'll bring it up again. Like, Idk, with the old RA gone they now try to figure out what their new approach to their relationship should be and maybe Sheldon suggests a new RA with them negotiating date nights and sleep overs and all that... and since it's a comedy there could already be a gazillion hilarious ways how their carefully planned schedules fall apart in the face of them being closer than ever now - emotionally and physically. This also could easily lead to them deciding to move in together.

Then again, we haven't really had any chance to see how they're now in a normal episode setting. So the possibilities are endless right now. But with what has been said in interviews and the general direction of the season so far I'm quite optimistic right now.

[A Shamy gal]

On ‎28‎/‎12‎/‎2015 at 11:23 AM, AllyAnne said:

As much as I would like to see Sheldon share his spot with Amy, I just don't see it happening.  They have to keep Sheldon, "Sheldon".  However, I would like to see a group dinner where someone goes to sit next to Sheldon because they are used to Amy's abscence from the breakup and he screams that it's Amy's spot.  I'd find that just as sweet.

A compromise to that could be that Amy's allowed to sit in his spot when he's either not using it himself or not actually there for some reason.  That would be enough to freak the others out.

[jenafan]

5 hours ago, FortCozyMcBlanket said:

The only thing that my paranoid jerkbrain makes me worry about this scene is that I wondered if the line he said (bolded part) was a parallel to Sheldon saying he wasn't as passionate about sex as Amy had been beforehand (saying he's "not as familiar with the franchise") but he still liked it. Basically what I'm saying is I hope his feelings about sex aren't the same as Amy's feelings about Star Wars! 

And this is another reason I really want to see a future episode where Sheldon fails to restrain his sexual desire for Amy and keep to his schedule! 

I understand the concern, and I had a little bit of that, too.   Amy has always wanted it more than Sheldon, and I was a little afraid that she would continue to do so.   This is the only part of their intimate relationship where I see things were unequal.

However, I agree with Kerry.   There is nothing but positivity here.    Sheldon wanted to show her how much she means to him.  In the next episode, Sheldon mentions naming their children.    Sex means more to him than just achieving a thrill.    While I hope to see him have uncontrollable desire for Amy occasionally and vice versa, I see them doing it more for the sake of emotional closeness and procreation (when they decide they are ready).

I was having a discussion with another forum member about how we have a tendency to create bedroom scenarios for Shamy based on our own personal tastes, aversions, and what we'd like to see.  The fact is, we don't really get to see what happens behind closed doors.   Unless it is absolutely spelled out, all of us are neither right or wrong on what we think might be going on behind the scenes.   Amy sees a version of Sheldon that no one else, even the audience will.   The best we can do is fill in the blanks.

We saw at the end of Excitation that both were pleased with the results.  They were on equal ground with inexperience, and now they are on equal ground with experience.   Neither Sheldon or Amy have an advantage over the other here.  

I really liked vonmar's input above.  Sheldon does not want to lose himself in his relationship with Amy or the enjoyment of sex.  Amy is going to her conferences, accepting the fact that Sheldon doesn't want to be with her, and she is okay with it.    They miss each other, but there is no separation anxiety here, as a result of them having sex now.    Both are continuing to partake of their interests, careers, etc. even when the other is not present, but they are communicating regularly.

Like all things, coitus has it's place in Sheldon's life, and he's not going to let it consume him.   He will continue to do the things he enjoys with Amy.  Like all couples, they will spend their future negotiating and/giving into the desire for coitus when they can agree the time is right for both of them, while carrying on with life as normal.

On another topic, I had hoped to write a FF where Sheldon showed up at her hotel to surprise her because he missed her so much, but in the following episode, he gets sick and she's still there avoiding him.    I'll have to watch how the episodes play out to see if I can make something work, like maybe he shows up for a day and then gets sick or something and has to come back.

 

Edited December 29, 2015 by jenafan

[jlove]

5 hours ago, jenafan said:

 

On another topic, I had hoped to write a FF where Sheldon showed up at her hotel to surprise her because he missed her so much, but in the following episode, he gets sick and she's still there avoiding him.    I'll have to watch how the episodes play out to see if I can make something work, like maybe he shows up for a day and then gets sick or something and has to come back.

 

Or, you go ahead and write your lovely little story anyway the way it plays out in your head, and it just becomes part of a slightly AU.  After all, one interpretation of multiple universes (which we know Sheldon believes in) is that each decision we make creates a new universe that was the same as our universe up until the point that decision was made, after which point the universes diverge.  Maybe in yours he goes to surprise her, completely avoiding whatever germs he picked up at home and never getting sick anyway.  And then we get a cute Sheldon-surprises-Amy-at-her-hotel story to read. :-)

 

Edited December 30, 2015 by jlove

[vonmar]

They celebrated Amy's birthday on a Thursday and saw Star Wars a few days later.  I am thinking a Saturday date night?  Holding hands and sharing popcorn at the movies?  Were Sheldon and Amy alone, or did the guys go with them for their for a third viewing?

What do you think?

 

  

[jenafan]

24 minutes ago, vonmar said:

They celebrated Amy's birthday on a Thursday and saw Star Wars a few days later.  I am thinking a Saturday date night?  Holding hands and sharing popcorn at the movies?  Were Sheldon and Amy alone, or did the guys go with them for their for a third viewing?

What do you think?

 

  

I like the Saturday night date idea with popcorn and Red Vines.   It would be neat if Amy had her own straw and they actually shared an ICEE.  I hope they were alone.

Can we catch a clue on the night Sheldon told PP the movie was amazing by the color of his pajamas?  I've never been able to find his pajama color schedule anywhere.

[AnnJ]

5 hours ago, jenafan said:

I like the Saturday night date idea with popcorn and Red Vines.   It would be neat if Amy had her own straw and they actually shared an ICEE.  I hope they were alone.

Can we catch a clue on the night Sheldon told PP the movie was amazing by the color of his pajamas?  I've never been able to find his pajama color schedule anywhere.

 

6 hours ago, vonmar said:

They celebrated Amy's birthday on a Thursday and saw Star Wars a few days later.  I am thinking a Saturday date night?  Holding hands and sharing popcorn at the movies?  Were Sheldon and Amy alone, or did the guys go with them for their for a third viewing?

What do you think?

 

  

Love the idea of the Saturday date night. I could envision Sheldon reconsidering the merit of Red Vines upon discovering Amy's preference for Twizzlers!

[jenafan]

4 hours ago, AnnJ said:

I could envision Sheldon reconsidering the merit of Red Vines upon discovering Amy's preference for Twizzlers!

That would be neat, especially if they had to go to a non-Sheldon approved theater because it was the only one with SW tickets available.

Another FF scene fill-in perhaps?

 

 

[Kathy2611]

I hate to be the bubble buster here but I don't think they went to see it on Saturday night.  

1.) That's actually two days from Thursday (a couple).  A "few days later" would be at least 3.

2.). His exact words were "I saw it a few DAYS later."  I think it was probably Sunday afternoon.

3.). He's still Sheldon and we all know Saturday night is laundry night.

[April]

27 minutes ago, Kathy2611 said:

I hate to be the bubble buster here but I don't think they went to see it on Saturday night.  

1.) That's actually two days from Thursday (a couple).  A "few days later" would be at least 3.

2.). His exact words were "I saw it a few DAYS later."  I think it was probably Sunday afternoon.

Yeah, I think tickets for screenings up to and including the first weekend were pretty hard to get - especially in the favoured evening screenings. Sunday afternoon sounds like the first realistic option to me if they got lucky. Heck, I saw the movie on a 22nd evening screening and that was completely sold out. And we had the tickets for ages!

27 minutes ago, Kathy2611 said:

3.). He's still Sheldon and we all know Saturday night is laundry night.

He already missed laundry night the week before. Could Sheldon Lee Cooper miss laundry night two weeks in a row??? [dramatic music]

lol