Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 9

[tsnt100]

7 minutes ago, A Shamy gal said:

I don't think anyone predicted it would be meemaw who would tell Amy about the ring.

But I think someone here guessed the title right! It was "The Meemaw Materialization" 

[birdy]

So the spoilers are actually pretty good! I totally get why Meemaw wasn't a big fan of Amy's, I mean she broke her moonpie's heart! I liked that Amy stood up for herself though and that Sheldon defended her (because Meemaw always took pop pop's side aww). And oh the casual touching.. Sheldon putting his arm around her and later Amy rubbing his shoulder, *swoon*

Also it's pretty clear that the engagement is coming! I'm not even too bothered by Meemaw spilling the beans on the ring, because apparently Amy was happily surprised by it. I always thought Amy should know that he had the ring before she broke up with him, of course I hoped she would learn that after they'd gotten engaged. 

This sounds like a really great episode and I can't wait to see Meemaw in action (and calling Sheldon "moonpie"). A good morning indeed.

Edited January 13, 2016 by bluebird

[brilliantfool]

I am dying to see Amy's reaction when she finds out he has a ring (and has had it for so long!)

[EvilStewie]

I predicted Meemaw and Amy would be butting heads. I'm actually relieved in a lot of ways cause it could have been worse. I don't mind Amy finding out about the ring now, personally I was glad he didn't get the words out right before the breakup. It kinda played that he was gonna propose over Skype. If Amy needed time at that point because of Sheldon's "distance" ..a Skype proposal isn't gonna help. It more proves her point. Why was the ring in his desk when he called, when next time we see it its in a lock box.  Not that I think Sheldon didn't deserve more then a Skype break up after 5 years either, but I guess the real breakup happened in season 9... Still as a viewer, all these big events happening while not in the same room together hinted at the problem.   

That is why the 2 back to back Skype episodes after coitus was weird to me, the main riff seems to be about that distance, they reunite, sleep together, more distance. I don't really get it. Don't mind me .. I'm just passionate about this I guess

Edited January 13, 2016 by EvilStewie

[jlove]

1 hour ago, brilliantfool said:

it wasn't the exact line apparently  ! 

And i guess it meant that once Amy found out about the ring, she was dropping hints etc for him to propose to her right then, and when he got that, he replied to her with smth along those lines, meaning ok 'i just gave you my virginity, is it not enough for you right now? do you need a proposal too? '

That's how i understood it : ) I don't think it was anything drama though, it sounded like it was just a comedic line!

Yes, it was more like "Woman, I just gave you my virginity, cool your jets!"

[CentralPerk]

2 things : I can't wait to see Meemaw's face when Sheldon says he gave his virginity to Amy, and Amy's reaction about the ring !

[April]

Good morning, everybody!! <3

Ugh I'm always late for the chat these days... Basing this on stardustmelody's summary (which I think is compiled from bits and pieces from the chat?) here are my usual 2 cents:

- Yay, Meemaw is in this after all, not that there was much doubt but you never know. Also, lol @ the kid having nothing to do with Shamy after we've been so abuzz with this idea. haha

- Wow, looks like I was right on the money the other day about a possible conflict between Meemaw and Amy???? Holy shit! In all seriousness though, it wasn't that hard to predict, so not demanding any cookies here. lol

- Anyway, I'm actually kinda glad that the heartbreak isn't completely brushed under the rug and at least someone is bringing it up. That it would be Meemaw who loves her Moonpie so dearly is not surprising. And I really like this whole idea of her poking Amy a bit to see if she's the right girl for Sheldon. From what I understand they're talking it out in the end and everything's going to be fine, so that's alright with me.

- I LOVE that Sheldon is 1) stopping Amy from leaving when she's upset, 2) defending her, 3) against Meemaw of all people (!!!), and 4) comparing them to Meemaw and Pop-pop. OMG

- I'm also fine with her spilling the beans on the ring. I mean, it's not ideal but at the same time it gets a few things out of the way. For once, Amy knows now he already had it before the breakup so whatever happens in the near future she can be secure in their relationship. Not that she couldn't now but if there were any doubts about him left from that breakup they should be gone now. And on the other hand, with Amy being warned like that at least she probably won't faint when Sheldon actually pops the question. lol Honestly, the poor girl is always such a bundle of nerves when the big steps happen in their relationship! haha

- I love that Amy is asking for Meemaw's blessing cause it's usually the guy who asks his girlfriend's parents - so it's a neat little twist on that.

- I'm also glad we didn't get an impromptu proposal. I can imagine Sheldon actually wanting to plan something nice for that because he's that kind of big ol' hippie now.

- This though: "Woman, I just gave you my virginity, cool your jets!" LMAO oh Shelly! And he says this in front of Meemaw? ahahaha

All in all sounds like a fun episode! I'm sure those of you guys who went had a blast at the taping! :D

 

[brilliantfool]

I can't get over the fact Meemaw set in Sheldon's spot the entire time! (which was somewhat predictable considering his overwhelming love for her, but still super sweet!)

[A Shamy gal]

3 minutes ago, brilliantfool said:

I can't get over the fact Meemaw set in Sheldon's spot the entire time! (which was somewhat predictable considering his overwhelming love for her, but still super sweet!)

Meemaw was sitting in his spot.... interesting.  If he allows her to sit there, then it won't be too long before Amy is allowed to sit there as well.

[brilliantfool]

11 minutes ago, A Shamy gal said:

Meemaw was sitting in his spot.... interesting.  If he allows her to sit there, then it won't be too long before Amy is allowed to sit there as well.

i knoww.. i do believe it's gonna happen soon!

[mirs1]

It sounds like a very funny episode! I'm happy we get to see meemaw soon. In the chat room it was hypothesized that the episode will be the first sweep episode in February (with maybe two reruns in a row in the second half of January), I can't wait for it! It seems that Molaro had very clear in mind Shamy's future since Season 6, when he thought Amy and meemaw would not get along that well, LOL!! Anyway, it's understandable, she hurt her moon pie, I forgive her, even if  I didn't understand (I hope somebody from the taping could explain that) if she didn't like her from the very beginning or just because of the break up. Sheldon's behavior in this episode was so cute; he took Amy's defense with his grandmother and showed for the thousandth time that he now know very well why she is so precious for him and why he is so in love with her (wasn't Jim  first post-premiere interview about it? He knows his character!) As April, I liked that he compares his relationship to his grandparent's one, I guess that is his model for a good marriage, his parents one seems to have been a rough one, so it's tender that he has a healthy model to look at. And, anyway, everything he said is so IC and so him, the part about the virginity is pure gold! It's also understandable he has kind of cold feet about a proposal right now, so many changes in his life in so little time, he needs time to settle and understand what's going on. 

About meemaw spilling the beans on the ring I have mixed feelings. It doesn't bother me that much, but I had preferred Amy not knowing about it. I mean, this again put her in the passive position of "waiting" something from Sheldon. She waited for him to be ready for intimacy with her, and now that this new chapter in their life has just begun, she has to wait for a proposal. I know that it doesn't make too much difference (since she maybe was already waiting for the "next" step even without knowing about the ring) but now she knows for sure that it's a concrete possibility. It's strange. I guess that the purpose here is to clear things up with the audience, explaining what was going on with the ring and why Sheldon has not popped the question yet. On the other hand, it's good she knows Sheldon was much more serious in his feelings and intentions even in a period she was questioning his commitment with her. This will put some prospective in her views about what their pre-break up relationship was.

I think that one of the most appealing characteristic about Shamy is their ability of raising expectations in the audience, so for me it was natural that, after the biggest expectation of all was fulfilled, the writers should come up with something else, to keep us on our toes. So....I'm sure the ring will be our new coitus...as Amy, we will wait for a proposal!!! We need a new ash tag now! #proposaliscoming...I wonder if we will make bracelets too...

Edited January 13, 2016 by mirs1

[April]

1 hour ago, EvilStewie said:

I predicted Meemaw and Amy would be butting heads. I'm actually relieved in a lot of ways cause it could have been worse. I don't mind Amy finding out about the ring now, personally I was glad he didn't get the words out right before the breakup. It kinda played that he was gonna propose over Skype. If Amy needed time at that point because of Sheldon's "distance" ..a Skype proposal isn't gonna help. It more proves her point. Why was the ring in his desk when he called, when next time we see it its in a lock box.  Not that I think Sheldon didn't deserve more then a Skype break up after 5 years either, but I guess the real breakup happened in season 9... Still as a viewer, all these big events happening while not in the same room together hinted at the problem.   

While I agree that the distance hinted at their problems I'm not entirely sure that Sheldon would have actually proposed over skype. (Unless that was indeed clarified in a spoiler and I missed that detail??) I would think that it simply was in the drawer simply because he wanted to ask her around that time. But then the breakup happened, and he only kept the ring because of Mary's insistence so stored it away in the safe since he didn't think he'd use it anytime soon.

1 hour ago, EvilStewie said:

That is why the 2 back to back Skype episodes after coitus was weird to me, the main riff seems to be about that distance, they reunite, sleep together, more distance. I don't really get it. Don't mind me .. I'm just passionate about this I guess

Idk I'm not particularly bothered because even though there's physical distance between them in those episodes their skype calls show us clearly that they're close on an emotional level and the bond between them seems to be stronger than ever.

[stardustmelody]

1 hour ago, April said:

Good morning, everybody!! <3

Ugh I'm always late for the chat these days... Basing this on stardustmelody's summary (which I think is compiled from bits and pieces from the chat?) here are my usual 2 cents:

- Yay, Meemaw is in this after all, not that there was much doubt but you never know. Also, lol @ the kid having nothing to do with Shamy after we've been so abuzz with this idea. haha

- Wow, looks like I was right on the money the other day about a possible conflict between Meemaw and Amy???? Holy shit! In all seriousness though, it wasn't that hard to predict, so not demanding any cookies here. lol

- Anyway, I'm actually kinda glad that the heartbreak isn't completely brushed under the rug and at least someone is bringing it up. That it would be Meemaw who loves her Moonpie so dearly is not surprising. And I really like this whole idea of her poking Amy a bit to see if she's the right girl for Sheldon. From what I understand they're talking it out in the end and everything's going to be fine, so that's alright with me.

- I LOVE that Sheldon is 1) stopping Amy from leaving when she's upset, 2) defending her, 3) against Meemaw of all people (!!!), and 4) comparing them to Meemaw and Pop-pop. OMG

- I'm also fine with her spilling the beans on the ring. I mean, it's not ideal but at the same time it gets a few things out of the way. For once, Amy knows now he already had it before the breakup so whatever happens in the near future she can be secure in their relationship. Not that she couldn't now but if there were any doubts about him left from that breakup they should be gone now. And on the other hand, with Amy being warned like that at least she probably won't faint when Sheldon actually pops the question. lol Honestly, the poor girl is always such a bundle of nerves when the big steps happen in their relationship! haha

- I love that Amy is asking for Meemaw's blessing cause it's usually the guy who asks his girlfriend's parents - so it's a neat little twist on that.

- I'm also glad we didn't get an impromptu proposal. I can imagine Sheldon actually wanting to plan something nice for that because he's that kind of big ol' hippie now.

- This though: "Woman, I just gave you my virginity, cool your jets!" LMAO oh Shelly! And he says this in front of Meemaw? ahahaha

All in all sounds like a fun episode! I'm sure those of you guys who went had a blast at the taping! :D

 

This screams out and makes me say YASSSSSSS!!  It is wonderful to see him mature enough to stand up to his Meemaw (who he adores), and to choose Amy, who he loves over his Meemaw in this case, and model after a solid marriage in his eyes...yes to all of it.  This to me is the pivotal moment of the whole entire evening because so much love comes from those simple acts.  I love it!  

[EvilStewie]

19 minutes ago, April said:

While I agree that the distance hinted at their problems I'm not entirely sure that Sheldon would have actually proposed over skype. (Unless that was indeed clarified in a spoiler and I missed that detail??) I would think that it simply was in the drawer simply because he wanted to ask her around that time. But then the breakup happened, and he only kept the ring because of Mary's insistence so stored it away in the safe since he didn't think he'd use it anytime soon.

Idk I'm not particularly bothered because even though there's physical distance between them in those episodes their skype calls show us clearly that they're close on an emotional level and the bond between them seems to be stronger than ever.

There was no spoiler that is just how it played out to me, cause he started the conversation with " I've been thinking a lot about relationships" , but you could be absolutely correct!  It bothers me, because it was never discussed, which I was hoping for before they got back together. It seems they returned to the problem I guess. Love seeing them happy, but good or bad they are expressing themselves in the same way that was a problem at one point. The riff started by them being together making out happily and Sheldon not being in the moment in her presence. Addressed with Skype.. Coitus..Back to Skype?  Its weird to me.. 

Edited January 13, 2016 by EvilStewie

[April]

15 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

About meemaw spilling the beans on the ring I have mixed feelings. It doesn't bother me that much, but I had preferred Amy not knowing about it. I mean, this again put her in the passive position of "waiting" something from Sheldon. She waited for him to be ready for intimacy with her, and now that this new chapter in their life has just begun, she has to wait for a proposal. I know that it doesn't make too much difference (since she maybe was already waiting for the "next" step even without knowing about the ring) but now she knows for sure that it's a concrete possibility. It's strange. I guess that the purpose here is to clear things up with the audience, explaining what was going on with the ring and why Sheldon has not popped the question yet. On the other hand, it's good she knows Sheldon was much more serious in his feelings and intentions even in a period she was questioning his commitment with her. This will put some prospective in her views about what their pre-break up relationship was.

I share your mixed feelings (as I said, it's not ideal). But all things considered I'm having a positive outlook on this. I mean, when Amy was waiting for coitus Sheldon was still trying to keep a bit of a distance and not opening up to her as much as he does now. So it's definitely not the same kind of "desperate pining" situation. Amy knows he's serious about the relationship, they're on cloud number nine right now, she also knows now from experience that when Sheldon puts his mind to it he can romance the hell out of her - so waiting for a proposal should be like waiting for Christmas for her. lol

[FortCozyMcBlanket]

 I am SOOOOOOO excited about 9.14!!! I had a feeling there would be slight conflict between Meemaw and Amy, and I wasn't awake for the chat so I don't know if it's mentioned, but I'm hoping this gets resolved quickly! (something about Meemaw giving her future blessing?) AND THE RING!!!!!!! IT'S OUT IN THE OPEN!(and even though I wanted the eventual engagement to be a complete surprise, I'm just glad Amy didn't find out through the Spockumentary!) And how cute is Sheldon defending his woman, (and also being slightly affectionate with her) and then comparing Amy and him to Meemaw and Pop-Pop? <3 

And OMG finally a story for Raj!!!!! 

As far as those handful of people *cough* bitter Lenny's *cough* who resent Shamy and the Shamy fandom right now: 

[A Shamy gal]

5 minutes ago, April said:

I share your mixed feelings (as I said, it's not ideal). But all things considered I'm having a positive outlook on this. I mean, when Amy was waiting for coitus Sheldon was still trying to keep a bit of a distance and not opening up to her as much as he does now. So it's definitely not the same kind of "desperate pining" situation. Amy knows he's serious about the relationship, they're on cloud number nine right now, she also knows now from experience that when Sheldon puts his mind to it he can romance the hell out of her - so waiting for a proposal should be like waiting for Christmas for her. lol

I don't think she have to wait long and I suspect she knows that as well.  I do think there will be a few episodes of 'is this one he's going to propose?' though.

[EvilStewie]

5 minutes ago, FortCozyMcBlanket said:

 

As far as those handful of people *cough* bitter Lenny's *cough* who resent Shamy and the Shamy fandom right now: 

LOL! Yeah, I hear ya! I was basically thinking the same way..

 

Edited January 13, 2016 by EvilStewie

[April]

4 minutes ago, A Shamy gal said:

I don't think she have to wait long and I suspect she knows that as well.  I do think there will be a few episodes of 'is this one he's going to propose?' though.

I'd laugh so hard if he would be teasing her with a romantic evening, pulls out what looks like a ring box, and he's asking her "Amy, will you m..." -she's gasping like "omg is this it???"- "...move in with me?" and in the box is a key to 4A. It would be a bit mean but ngl I'd find it hilarious!

[birdy]

1 hour ago, April said:

- I LOVE that Sheldon is 1) stopping Amy from leaving when she's upset, 2) defending her, 3) against Meemaw of all people (!!!), and 4) comparing them to Meemaw and Pop-pop. OMG

This. Love it so much! I'm so glad Sheldon stopped her from leaving and defended her. He wasn't bitter or angry at Amy anymore because of the break-up, he even admitted how it helped him grow. They're a team, just like Meemaw and pop-pop. I'm so proud of him! 

[EvilStewie]

11 minutes ago, bluebird said:

This. Love it so much! I'm so glad Sheldon stopped her from leaving and defended her. He wasn't bitter or angry at Amy anymore because of the break-up, he even admitted how it helped him grow. They're a team, just like Meemaw and pop-pop. I'm so proud of him! 

I have to say.. As much as I'm venting about some stuff, I agree with both of you. This makes me happy!...

Edited January 13, 2016 by EvilStewie

[wowbagger]

Things I like about this episode:

a ) heh, I sort of like that Meemaw isn't this sweet, cuddly old biddy dispensing cookies and lemonade and hugs and sassy-but-tender homespun wisdom. Nope. The lady is a dragon! A dragon who may have a leeeeeetle bit of a blind spot about her Shelly and the Girl Who Done Him Wrong? Awesome.

b ) I agree that it makes complete sense, too, for Meemaw to be the one to take Amy to task for the breakup. Not that it is right or fair to put it squarely in terms of 'this girl broke your heart!', but-well, you DID break his heart, Amy. It does make sense that Sheldon's family might look a tad askance at you.

c ) but yay!for Amy saying 'well, maybe I don't like you!' I was so worried that amy would be weeping and wringing her hands in a corner while Sheldon rescued her or something.

d ) instead, Sheldon stood up for his decisions and his choices and the woman he loves. While she was fighting for herself. Excellent.

e ) and, heh, does this make the second of the important women in his family that Sheldon has defied in order to keep seeing his woman? Does amy find being the bad girl as 'oddly titillating' as before?

things I am not so sure about:

f ) can someone clarify something about Sheldon's saying 'i just gave you my virginity. Cool your jets, woman'? Has amy been pressuring him about proposing (oh please no, show), or does she give him a justified 'wtf?!? Why didn't YOU tell me about the ring?'after meemaw's bombshell? Please the latter. Please please please the latter. I don't think I can take another go-round of 'amy wants more, Sheldon can't keep up.'

g ) did we......really need this proof that Sheldon really really really REALLY loves amy? I love a love -proclaiming Sheldon as much as the next person, but at this point I do believe we get it, no? Did they really need to bring on meemaw just to have Sheldon defy yet another Important Thing to prove that Amy is really really really important to him? As a narrative device to find out about the ring, I like it? But it feels....unnecessary as a character moment.

h ) I will piss and moan about this forever if need be, but at this point I would really love to see some of these Trials and Litmus Tests being thrown Amy's way. Thankfully, this episode has Amy standing up for herself and having her own equation with Meemaw, rather than being the maiden jn a tower for Sheldon to rescue/win after a test of manhood. But how about throwing some of that juicy adulthood-proving action Amy's way? When you have someone as good as MB, how about using her?

[teletalk101]

After pondering the events of this episode, I maintain my first thought that Meemaw is a B*TCH! If your grandchild is happy in their relationship - and they are a consenting adult - you support them even if you don't agree with their choice of partner. And if you know they are in possession of a certain piece of jewelry, you, to quote Amy, shut your damn mouth.

But, that aside, the one thing I love more than anything about this particular episode is the subtle, but significant growth we see in Sheldon.

Do you guys remember The Habitation Configuration (6.07)? In that episode Wil Wheaton insults Amy and a clueless Sheldon doesn't take her side or really even understand why he should. Amy tried to leave and he encouraged her to do it. Now, though, Sheldon gets that if someone - friend or relative - insults your partner, you defend them straight away. You don't let them walk away no matter how much they think they should. He didn't let her leave. That is huge for this character and I am really looking forward to seeing that moment play out on screen. 

[MJistheBOMB]

This kind of spices things up a bit, now that Amy knows about the ring and that Sheldon KNOWS that she knows. He gets to be creative still with the when, the where the how the proposal will happen :). 

Only thing I worry about, after seeing others bring it up, is we might an Amy that becomes pushy about it. Not that I would expect her to be...we all know she's not the type but the writers do like to throw us curve balls when we least expect it. LOL.

[nickelette424]

5 minutes ago, wowbagger said:

Things I like about this episode:

a ) heh, I sort of like that Meemaw isn't this sweet, cuddly old biddy dispensing cookies and lemonade and hugs and sassy-but-tender homespun wisdom. Nope. The lady is a dragon! A dragon who may have a leeeeeetle bit of a blind spot about her Shelly and the Girl Who Done Him Wrong? Awesome.

b ) I agree that it makes complete sense, too, for Meemaw to be the one to take Amy to task for the breakup. Not that it is right or fair to put it squarely in terms of 'this girl broke your heart!', but-well, you DID break his heart, Amy. It does make sense that Sheldon's family might look a tad askance at you.

c ) but yay!for Amy saying 'well, maybe I don't like you!' I was so worried that amy would be weeping and wringing her hands in a corner while Sheldon rescued her or something.

d ) instead, Sheldon stood up for his decisions and his choices and the woman he loves. While she was fighting for herself. Excellent.

e ) and, heh, does this make the second of the important women in his family that Sheldon has defied in order to keep seeing his woman? Does amy find being the bad girl as 'oddly titillating' as before?

things I am not so sure about:

f ) can someone clarify something about Sheldon's saying 'i just gave you my virginity. Cool your jets, woman'? Has amy been pressuring him about proposing (oh please no, show), or does she give him a justified 'wtf?!? Why didn't YOU tell me about the ring?'after meemaw's bombshell? Please the latter. Please please please the latter. I don't think I can take another go-round of 'amy wants more, Sheldon can't keep up.'

g ) did we......really need this proof that Sheldon really really really REALLY loves amy? I love a love -proclaiming Sheldon as much as the next person, but at this point I do believe we get it, no? Did they really need to bring on meemaw just to have Sheldon defy yet another Important Thing to prove that Amy is really really really important to him? As a narrative device to find out about the ring, I like it? But it feels....unnecessary as a character moment.

h ) I will piss and moan about this forever if need be, but at this point I would really love to see some of these Trials and Litmus Tests being thrown Amy's way. Thankfully, this episode has Amy standing up for herself and having her own equation with Meemaw, rather than being the maiden jn a tower for Sheldon to rescue/win after a test of manhood. But how about throwing some of that juicy adulthood-proving action Amy's way? When you have someone as good as MB, how about using her?

From what I understand, after Meemaw says that they have her blessing for Sheldon to give Amy the ring, she rubs his shoulder and gives him a look.  His response, was basically more of a "calm down, I'm not gonna give it to you right now".  I also think it was a way for Sheldon to maintain control over when he offers her the ring, even though someone else spilled the beans to her.