Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 9

[Lionne]

2 hours ago, boys3allc said:

IMO... Engagement is coming sooner rather than later. My orginal thought after 8.24 was we would not hear about it again until it happened. But it has popped up every few episodes.

Amy and Sheldon will be engaged by the end of the season, unless they throw some crazy monkey wrench into the season finale, as they have the past two years. What worries me now is that Amy knows about the ring, so she knows that he planned on proposing, so how do they set up the engagement with any element of surprise or enough tension to get the audience's attention? Now that Amy knows, everyone knows, so how do you create a set up for a heartwarming engagement that doesn't feel like...well, obviously he'll propose, and obviously she'll say yes, so let's get snapping show, and just do it!

So my fear is one more Shamy fight, or some sort of tiff. I really, really, really don't want to see Amy nag Sheldon about the ring, but now that she knows, how can she possibly contain herself from wanting to talk about it? But knowing Sheldon, who has every right to be really pissed off about Amy knows about the ring - it steals his thunder, he cannot possibly surprise her, now she's expecting it and he doesn't get to pick the right place and time based on his own decision because now that she knows long long will she wait? - because the element of surprise and his control over the whole thing has been taken away. So if Sheldon feels defensive and upset about this, all Amy will have to do is say, "Sheldon, do you want to go take a walk, maybe talk about–" and he's going to cut her off with, "it's all about the ring to you, isn't it. Nag nag nag." And then maybe Amy will punch him in the balls. No, wait, Amy will probably snap her jaw closed and look hurt or puzzled or mad or all of the above, and swallow it. So then Amy will either look like a nag to some or a doormat to others, and I have no interest in going back to all that.

I think that the writers have teased it all out since last year's finale when they showed up the ring, it needs to happen this season and Lord knows I hope it's doesn't mean we need another fight or any more drama to make it happen.

So do you guys want to see it happen?

I was thinking that...maybe just at home, because Sheldon feels happiest doing things out of his spot. Perhaps him in his spot, saying that her spot is always going to be that place right next to him, when she isn't in that spot, he feels now like something is missing, and incomplete. And he wants it to be complete forever, and then he gets on one knee (on his spot, LOL) and then brings out the ring box.

That might not be all fairy lights and flowers and in the rain and romantic and stuff, except that it IS depending on what he says. The other options would be...at the aquarium, at the zoo (finally seeing them at the zoo!) or, and this would be brilliant, if they went back to the original coffee shop where they met and Sheldon proposes to her there. And I am kinda partial to the coffee shop idea, the more I think about it.

[camelliayao]

5 minutes ago, Lionne said:

So my fear is one more Shamy fight, or some sort of tiff. I really, really, really don't want to see Amy nag Sheldon about the ring, but now that she knows, how can she possibly contain herself from wanting to talk about it? But knowing Sheldon, who has every right to be really pissed off about Amy knows about the ring - it steals his thunder, he cannot possibly surprise her, now she's expecting it and he doesn't get to pick the right place and time based on his own decision because now that she knows long long will she wait? - because the element of surprise and his control over the whole thing has been taken away. So if Sheldon feels defensive and upset about this, all Amy will have to do is say, "Sheldon, do you want to go take a walk, maybe talk about–" and he's going to cut her off with, "it's all about the ring to you, isn't it. Nag nag nag." And then maybe Amy will punch him in the balls. No, wait, Amy will probably snap her jaw closed and look hurt or puzzled or mad or all of the above, and swallow it. So then Amy will either look like a nag to some or a doormat to others, and I have no interest in going back to all that.

I think that the writers have teased it all out since last year's finale when they showed up the ring, it needs to happen this season and Lord knows I hope it's doesn't mean we need another fight or any more drama to make it happen.

LMAO!!!!!!

OMG the entire season 7 just flashed before my eyes.

[wowbagger]

I think, now that the cat is out of the bag, that the obvious way to retain any element of surprise is for Amy to be the prime mover and take the pressure off Sheldon a la Prom (and 'Aquarium'). Either let her propose, or have her say 'you don't have to do it, you know' and have Sheldon say 'Of course not. But that doesn't change the fact that I WANT to do it. Doctor Fowler, will you marry me?'. And maybe, now that meemaw got her dragony mitts all over his lovely ring reveal, Sheldon will have gone shopping for another, untainted ring?

however they do it, I agree that I do not want a reprisal of 'amy wants and waits, Sheldon drags his feet'. Especially not now.

[A Shamy gal]

12 minutes ago, Lionne said:

Amy and Sheldon will be engaged by the end of the season, unless they throw some crazy monkey wrench into the season finale, as they have the past two years. What worries me now is that Amy knows about the ring, so she knows that he planned on proposing, so how do they set up the engagement with any element of surprise or enough tension to get the audience's attention? Now that Amy knows, everyone knows, so how do you create a set up for a heartwarming engagement that doesn't feel like...well, obviously he'll propose, and obviously she'll say yes, so let's get snapping show, and just do it!

So my fear is one more Shamy fight, or some sort of tiff. I really, really, really don't want to see Amy nag Sheldon about the ring, but now that she knows, how can she possibly contain herself from wanting to talk about it? But knowing Sheldon, who has every right to be really pissed off about Amy knows about the ring - it steals his thunder, he cannot possibly surprise her, now she's expecting it and he doesn't get to pick the right place and time based on his own decision because now that she knows long long will she wait? - because the element of surprise and his control over the whole thing has been taken away. So if Sheldon feels defensive and upset about this, all Amy will have to do is say, "Sheldon, do you want to go take a walk, maybe talk about–" and he's going to cut her off with, "it's all about the ring to you, isn't it. Nag nag nag." And then maybe Amy will punch him in the balls. No, wait, Amy will probably snap her jaw closed and look hurt or puzzled or mad or all of the above, and swallow it. So then Amy will either look like a nag to some or a doormat to others, and I have no interest in going back to all that.

I think that the writers have teased it all out since last year's finale when they showed up the ring, it needs to happen this season and Lord knows I hope it's doesn't mean we need another fight or any more drama to make it happen.

So do you guys want to see it happen?

I was thinking that...maybe just at home, because Sheldon feels happiest doing things out of his spot. Perhaps him in his spot, saying that her spot is always going to be that place right next to him, when she isn't in that spot, he feels now like something is missing, and incomplete. And he wants it to be complete forever, and then he gets on one knee (on his spot, LOL) and then brings out the ring box.

That might not be all fairy lights and flowers and in the rain and romantic and stuff, except that it IS depending on what he says. The other options would be...at the aquarium, at the zoo (finally seeing them at the zoo!) or, and this would be brilliant, if they went back to the original coffee shop where they met and Sheldon proposes to her there. And I am kinda partial to the coffee shop idea, the more I think about it.

Well she may have given her blessing in the end, but Meemaw could still be the monkey wrench.  Also we don't what Amy's mother will think of it.  As far we know Sheldon and Amy's mother have only ever had that Skype conversation and that wouldn't have created a very good impression. 

[EvilStewie]

28 minutes ago, lpm said:

I understand your concern about the 2 Skype episodes.  I had them as well.  However, IMO, maybe it was just a bad plot device (her staying longer because he was sick and he can be a pain in the ass).  They could have come up with a better way of keeping her longer at the conference site.  I was under the impression it was in Detroit (don't ask me why) but if it had been somewhere in the northern states, weather would have been a better device to keep her away. (Especially at this time of year). We got stuck in Buffalo in January 2014 for a day  on our way to Florida and there were people who had been at the hotel we stayed at for a couple of days.  In other words, Sheldon being sick and being stuck somewhere because of weather could have happened at the same time.  

Or she could have gone to consult with another scientist in her field and stayed longer because of the progress they were experiencing in their work. 

Also, didn't Molaro say they wanted to get the emphasis off of Shamy for a bit.  Those episodes, especially the last three, were heavy Shamy and they needed a bit of a break from it especially if they were looking to see the general audience reaction to the Shamy coitus and how to proceed from there.

 

Yeah, I agree there were other way to take the spotlight off of them for awhile. I wish they would have, but it is what it is. I get they wanted to focus on the other couples, and that is great, but in the meantime.. why not focus on that couple, and then mix the rest of the cast up like in the scavenger hunt epi? I agree with you about plot as well. Its kinda a cold plot for her to stay away just cause he is a big baby when he is sick.  

He did say that and I do understand it, I guess I don't understand why they have to stall growth to shine that light elsewhere, ya know? Its just cold, and to me not really Amy after finally being close to him.  She is still at the same conference and we went from " Wish you were here" with lust in her eyes, to "You're on you're own bitch!" 

[tsnt100]

5 hours ago, A Shamy gal said:

Meemaw was sitting in his spot.... interesting.  If he allows her to sit there, then it won't be too long before Amy is allowed to sit there as well.

Well... When Amy sees her sitting on his spot, she mentions that he never lets her sit there, and he says "and you never will" =/

But I hope he changes that soon! 

[Carlilla]

What did Memaw say when Sheldon says that he just gave Amy his virginity? Hahaha

[Soopysue]

Hey guys  

Thanks so much to all who went and gave us all the info , I'm so appreciative of you all .

I think this sounds an amazing episode, as you all have so eloquently put it - Sheldon as made Amy his first .

We saw it when he put her before the movie premier. Now he stood up for her in front of Meemaw of all people. Wow what a change - and for the better. He's already comparing himself and Amy as a couple to Meemaw and Pop Pop the people he admires the most - that speaks volumes .......

And the ring - not long now I don't think, not long now . Very clever writing again as I for one can't think how the proposal will happen, but boy am I excited to find out , yipppeeeeee !!!!!! 

Happy grin secured on face for me  

[A Shamy gal]

BTW what is Meemaw's name or did they all call her Meemaw?

[tsnt100]

6 minutes ago, Carlilla said:

What did Memaw say when Sheldon says that he just gave Amy his virginity? Hahaha

They cut right after he said that line. I couldn't see her reaction because my seat didn't have a good view of the couch... 

[Carlilla]

1 minute ago, tsnt100 said:

They cut right after he said that line. I couldn't see her reaction because my seat didn't have a good view of the couch... 

Oh thank you! Hope you had a good time

[April]

20 minutes ago, tsnt100 said:

Well... When Amy sees her sitting on his spot, she mentions that he never lets her sit there, and he says "and you never will" =/

But I hope he changes that soon! 

To put a bit of a positive spin on this: I think it's part of the set up for when he makes a stand and takes Amy's side. I mean, it's his beloved Meemaw, she makes him apologise earlier, she's allowed to sit in his spot when nobody else is allowed to - and yet he'll draw the line when she's coming after Amy!

And yeah, maybe he'll change his mind because of this incident? Maybe it'll even be the setup for a proposal or otherwise sweet scene in which he does allow her to sit there?? Who knows.

[FortCozyMcBlanket]

I was initially really psyched for this episode but now I have some worries: 

• Sheldon's comment about not ever letting Amy sit in his spot 

• It doesn't seem like (even with the half-hearted "blessing" she eventually gives them) Meemaw is at all thrilled about Amy

• Meemaw ruined the surprise about the ring

• Does this mean Amy is going to go back to "waiting" for Sheldon to be ready? 

I half expect this episode to play out waaaay sweeter when we all see it on tv, but the overanalyst in me apparently had to piss on the parade lol

i blame her: 

And let me just say after all this build-up, if tptb make Amy the one to propose I AM GOING TO BE PISSSSSSSSSED! Because that DOES make it look like she's being pushy and just..... NO AMY, NO! 

Ok I just needed to vent.... hopefully this nonsense will get get out of my head and maybe tomorrow's episode will help  

Edited January 13, 2016 by FortCozyMcBlanket

[Carlilla]

Amy will sit there with Sheldon.

[jenafan]

5 hours ago, April said:

I share your mixed feelings (as I said, it's not ideal). But all things considered I'm having a positive outlook on this. I mean, when Amy was waiting for coitus Sheldon was still trying to keep a bit of a distance and not opening up to her as much as he does now. So it's definitely not the same kind of "desperate pining" situation. Amy knows he's serious about the relationship, they're on cloud number nine right now, she also knows now from experience that when Sheldon puts his mind to it he can romance the hell out of her - so waiting for a proposal should be like waiting for Christmas for her. lol

I have a couple of issues regarding Amy knowing about the ring:

1.  Shamy, particularly Sheldon has been discussing children.    Surely Amy didn't think he'd be doing so without having some type of future planned out for them.   Did she think they'd just live together forever?

2.  Amy knows about the ring now.   She's got Meemaw's blessing.   Sheldon isn't refuting having it and defends their relationship.   What is really the point in waiting for formalities?   At this point Sheldon should just go over to the wall, get it out, and give it to her in front of Meemaw and everyone.   

My fear is this is going to create anxiousness in Amy and possibly future tension between where the desire for sex is going to be replaced with wanting visible evidence of Sheldon's commitment, the ring, and him holding back on giving it to her for some yet unknown reason.   Every date and every moment together is going to be an "is this going the time he pops the question?" reflection for her.   I get that she expected it eventually, but now that she knows for sure, I really don't think it is fair to make her wait as if she has to somehow earn the ring from Sheldon now.  However, Sheldon is Sheldon, and who knows what he has up his sleeve?  Perhaps he has something already planned out and wants to play it out his way rather than react because his secret inadvertently got revealed.   I hope this is the case.

Edited January 13, 2016 by jenafan

[2L344]

4 hours ago, wowbagger said:

Things I like about this episode:

a ) heh, I sort of like that Meemaw isn't this sweet, cuddly old biddy dispensing cookies and lemonade and hugs and sassy-but-tender homespun wisdom. Nope. The lady is a dragon! A dragon who may have a leeeeeetle bit of a blind spot about her Shelly and the Girl Who Done Him Wrong? Awesome.

b ) I agree that it makes complete sense, too, for Meemaw to be the one to take Amy to task for the breakup. Not that it is right or fair to put it squarely in terms of 'this girl broke your heart!', but-well, you DID break his heart, Amy. It does make sense that Sheldon's family might look a tad askance at you.

c ) but yay!for Amy saying 'well, maybe I don't like you!' I was so worried that amy would be weeping and wringing her hands in a corner while Sheldon rescued her or something.

d ) instead, Sheldon stood up for his decisions and his choices and the woman he loves. While she was fighting for herself. Excellent.

e ) and, heh, does this make the second of the important women in his family that Sheldon has defied in order to keep seeing his woman? Does amy find being the bad girl as 'oddly titillating' as before?

things I am not so sure about:

f ) can someone clarify something about Sheldon's saying 'i just gave you my virginity. Cool your jets, woman'? Has amy been pressuring him about proposing (oh please no, show), or does she give him a justified 'wtf?!? Why didn't YOU tell me about the ring?'after meemaw's bombshell? Please the latter. Please please please the latter. I don't think I can take another go-round of 'amy wants more, Sheldon can't keep up.'

g ) did we......really need this proof that Sheldon really really really REALLY loves amy? I love a love -proclaiming Sheldon as much as the next person, but at this point I do believe we get it, no? Did they really need to bring on meemaw just to have Sheldon defy yet another Important Thing to prove that Amy is really really really important to him? As a narrative device to find out about the ring, I like it? But it feels....unnecessary as a character moment.

h ) I will piss and moan about this forever if need be, but at this point I would really love to see some of these Trials and Litmus Tests being thrown Amy's way. Thankfully, this episode has Amy standing up for herself and having her own equation with Meemaw, rather than being the maiden jn a tower for Sheldon to rescue/win after a test of manhood. But how about throwing some of that juicy adulthood-proving action Amy's way? When you have someone as good as MB, how about using her?

great thoughts! in my head i took sheldon telling amy to cool her jets as having a little fun with her- like telling her "one step at a time, every day isnt Christmas Amy lol"...im sure he's gonna plan it all out when he's good and ready.

i had read that amy pointedly asked penny if she knew about the ring, and penny sort of panicked and "gave them some privacy" and scurried off...im kinda curious to know if amy will take her driends to task about keeping that little secret all during their break up lol. ive said before that this wouldve ticked me off if i was amy.

Edited January 13, 2016 by 2L344

[FortCozyMcBlanket]

10 minutes ago, jenafan said:

I have a couple of issues regarding Amy knowing about the ring:

1.  Shamy, particularly Sheldon has been discussing children.    Surely Amy didn't think he'd be doing so without having some type of future planned out for them.   Did she think they'd just live together forever?

2.  Amy knows about the ring now.   She's got Meemaw's blessing.   Sheldon isn't refuting having it and defends their relationship.   What is really the point in waiting for formalities?   At this point Sheldon should just go over to the wall, get it out, and give it to her in front of Meemaw and everyone.   

My fear is this is going to create anxiousness in Amy and possibly future tension between where the desire for sex is going to be replaced with wanting visible evidence of Sheldon's commitment, the ring, and him holding back on giving it to her for some yet unknown reason.   Every date and every moment together is going to be an "is this going the time he pops the question?" reflection for her.   I get that she expected it eventually, but now that she knows for sure, I really don't think it is fair to make her wait as if she has to somehow earn the ring from Sheldon now.  However, Sheldon is Sheldon, and who knows what he has up his sleeve.  Perhaps he has something already planned out and wants to play it out his way rather than react because his secret inadvertently got revealed.   I hope this is the case.

You so get me <3 

16 minutes ago, Carlilla said:

Amy will sit there with Sheldon.

[kerrycec03]

BTW what is Meemaw's name or did they all call her Meemaw?

Constance

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Ok to clarify the virginity line.

Amy scratches his shoulder and smiles stupidly after "we have your blessing" implying "so about this ring" and Sheldon says "cool your jets woman I just gave you my virginity". Then he smiles at Meemaw and back at her.

My take it was also directed at fans like you just got sex relax engagement is coming.

I dont think she was hounding it was cute for sure.

Waiting to board in a few but if u have any questions let me know. It was fantastic

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[jenafan]

46 minutes ago, tsnt100 said:

They cut right after he said that line. I couldn't see her reaction because my seat didn't have a good view of the couch... 

So, in essence, they could open the next episode and Amy has the ring on her finger.   Sheldon skirted having to make a formal proposal due to his Meemaw's accidental spill, or it happened off screen.

However, I really like the idea that Sheldon telling her to "cool her jets" is him telling her she's getting it, but she's not going to in that moment.   "You got my virginity" is kind of his way of saying that getting the ring from him will be a much easier feat.   It's not an "I haven't ruled it out."   He's saying, "It's a sure thing."   Compared to giving her himself in every way, the ring is pretty insignificant at this point.  It's is all just formalities.

Edited January 13, 2016 by jenafan

[Soopysue]

16 minutes ago, kerrycec03 said:

Constance

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Ok to clarify the virginity line.

Amy scratches his shoulder and smiles stupidly after "we have your blessing" implying "so about this ring" and Sheldon says "cool your jets woman I just gave you my virginity". Then he smiles at Meemaw and back at her.

My take it was also directed at fans like you just got sex relax engagement is coming.

I dont think she was hounding it was cute for sure.

Waiting to board in a few but if u have any questions let me know. It was fantastic

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Thank you so much for clarification  

Was there a line about Meemaw not wanting to give the cookie recipe but Mary making her ?

i can't wait to see it all, it sounds very cute !

Edited January 13, 2016 by Soopysue

[April]

16 minutes ago, jenafan said:

I have a couple of issues regarding Amy knowing about the ring:

1.  Shamy, particularly Sheldon has been discussing children.    Surely Amy didn't think he'd be doing so without having some type of future planned out for them.   Did she think they'd just live together forever?

2.  Amy knows about the ring now.   She's got Meemaw's blessing.   Sheldon isn't refuting having it and defends their relationship.   What is really the point in waiting for formalities?   At this point Sheldon should just go over to the wall, get it out, and give it to her in front of Meemaw and everyone.   

My fear is this is going to create anxiousness in Amy and possibly future tension between where the desire for sex is going to be replaced with wanting visible evidence of Sheldon's commitment, the ring, and him holding back on giving it to her for some yet unknown reason.   Every date and every moment together is going to be an "is this going the time he pops the question?" reflection for her.   I get that she expected it eventually, but now that she knows for sure, I really don't think it is fair to make her wait as if she has to somehow earn the ring from Sheldon now.  However, Sheldon is Sheldon, and who knows what he has up his sleeve.  Perhaps he has something already planned out and wants to play it out his way rather than react because his secret inadvertently got revealed.   I hope this is the case.

Well, if you put it in context of them already casually talking about kids and all that, then yes, getting engaged is just a formality - no matter if Amy knows about the ring or not. So yes, maybe it's a bit silly to not just get it over with. But:

I do think it's absolutely fair of Sheldon to refuse to propose right then and there cause the matter has been brought up against his will. He's been put on the spot by pretty much everyone and I'm sure we agree that this is not how he wanted the proposal to go down. He shouldn't be forced to do it just because his grandmother couldn't keep her mouth shut. He surely had plans for it in some way which are possibly ruined now and I'm sure on some level he's quite unhappy about the mess. Should he propose out of anger or to prove a point that doesn't need to be proven? Should he do it to secure Meemaw's approval? Does he even want her blessing at this point?

And further more, does Amy really need that ring to feel secure in their relationship when he just defended her against his beloved Meemaw of all people? If not even his Meemaw (the only person he allows to sit in his spot!) can cast a doubt on his mind about their relationship then who can? What can??

I mean, you know, the writers surely have the talent to come up with all sorts of nonsense but right now if they make Amy anxious about the ring it would feel like she's worrying about nothing, really. But Idk maybe she's getting angsty because EVERYTHING IS TOO PERFECT!!!11 lol

[brilliantfool]

i love how so many people went to this taping, it's like spoiler heaven !

[kerrycec03]

16 minutes ago, kerrycec03 said: Constance

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Ok to clarify the virginity line.

Amy scratches his shoulder and smiles stupidly after "we have your blessing" implying "so about this ring" and Sheldon says "cool your jets woman I just gave you my virginity". Then he smiles at Meemaw and back at her.

My take it was also directed at fans like you just got sex relax engagement is coming.

I dont think she was hounding it was cute for sure.

Waiting to board in a few but if u have any questions let me know. It was fantastic

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Thank you so much for clarification [emoji4] 

Was there a line about Meemaw not wanting to give the cookie recipe but Mary making her ?

i can't wait to see it all, it sounds very cute !

No Meemaw liked Amy but her breaking his heart jaded her and Amy's face when Meemaw says this speaks hugely that Amy sorta f'd this up. Coupled with the now knowledge of the ring it was a bit more humble pie for Amy that she totally tore him apart during the break. It was actually good to see this.

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[Soopysue]

9 minutes ago, kerrycec03 said:

No Meemaw liked Amy but her breaking his heart jaded her and Amy's face when Meemaw says this speaks hugely that Amy sorta f'd this up. Coupled with the now knowledge of the ring it was a bit more humble pie for Amy that she totally tore him apart during the break. It was actually good to see this.

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Great stuff, thank you. 

I know it wasn't popular but I was always a fan of Amy understanding how the break was for Sheldon, and how much his wee heart was breaking then. I'm so glad we're past that now !!.

Again, thank you so much  . Have a safe flight x

Edited January 13, 2016 by Soopysue

[mirs1]

12 minutes ago, kerrycec03 said:

No Meemaw liked Amy but her breaking his heart jaded her and Amy's face when Meemaw says this speaks hugely that Amy sorta f'd this up. Coupled with the now knowledge of the ring it was a bit more humble pie for Amy that she totally tore him apart during the break. It was actually good to see this.

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Thanks, have a safe flight, so happy you had a good time and you watched a good episode, with great Shamy stuff!!

By the way, what a lovely name for meemaw...Constance fits so well with how I have always envisioned her!

Edited January 13, 2016 by mirs1