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1 hour ago, Touche said:

As cliche' as it is, after 8.24 where everyone was breaking up, and 9.12 where everyone was missing someone, I fully expected an episode where every couple was questioning who was pregnant.  Thus, I was shocked Bernadette announcing hers without the involvement of any of the other couples, so I do agree that some sort of reaction to this development will impact all couples.  

I love the idea! Although I have to say I'm a little afraid that if this happens, Sheldon will act all crazy and freaked out and say mean things to Amy... Oh boy... There're only so many hurtful lines a shipper can take in four consecutive episodes.

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26 minutes ago, camelliayao said:

I love the idea! Although I have to say I'm a little afraid that if this happens, Sheldon will act all crazy and freaked out and say mean things to Amy... Oh boy... There's only so many hurtful lines a shipper can take in four consecutive episodes.

You know what would be funny? He kinda of wishing her being pregnant. Both fun and out of character lol

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3 hours ago, camelliayao said:

I love the idea! Although I have to say I'm a little afraid that if this happens, Sheldon will act all crazy and freaked out and say mean things to Amy... Oh boy... There're only so many hurtful lines a shipper can take in four consecutive episodes.

I agree with the other Shamy fan that I would love to see the reversal of Amy freaked out (suspecting she is pregnant out of wedlock) and Sheldon calm, if not excited.

However, on a sad note, I must agree that my Shamy heart cannot take much more drama, without some sort of evidence of mutual growth and healing, not just Sheldon's.

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4 hours ago, Touche said:

I agree with the other Shamy fan that I would love to see the reversal of Amy freaked out (suspecting she is pregnant out of wedlock) and Sheldon calm, if not excited.

However, on a sad note, I must agree that my Shamy heart cannot take much more drama, without some sort of evidence of mutual growth and healing, not just Sheldon's.

I can't take any more drama either, that is why this upcoming Meemaw episode has me ... a little nervous. I was just watching clips on youtube, and I saw the interview with Jim and Mayim saying the breakup was rough on them too.. I think most of us just want smiles and butterflies for a bit...

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8 minutes ago, EvilStewie said:

I can't take any more drama either, that is my this upcoming Meemaw episode has me ... a little nervous. I was just watching clips on youtube, and I saw the interview with Jim and Mayim saying the breakup was rough on them too.. I think most of up just want smiles and butterflies for a bit...

Yeah, my heart sank when I saw Lorre was a writer for the Mee-Maw episode.  I know Lorre is a huge Sheldon fan (he didn't want Sheldon to be a criminal in the Skywalker Ranch episode, but Molaro had to remind Lorre that Sheldon stole the Raiders film reel, not to mention Sheldon has multiple restraining orders, and was found in contempt of court for his traffic violation argument with the judge).  

However, I get the impression Lorre is not a big Amy fan.  I think it surprised him how much sympathy and support Amy got, post episode 8.24 and at ComicCon 2015.  I think that is why Amy was written so out of character during Season 9.  Lorre's vanity card on Earworm was about regret.  Then in the Mee-Maw episode Lorre was willing to write Sheldon as the hero, but cringe worthy lines for Amy that whether they are rewritten or dropped for the final episode make me shudder anytime Lorre is involved with a major Shamy plotline.  Also, informing Amy of the ring and that Penny knew about the ring make me fear the drama is not completely over.  Deep breaths though, wishful thinking, and Wowbagger's brilliant post about post reconciliation Shamy that keep me in good spirits.

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2 hours ago, Touche said:

Yeah, my heart sank when I saw Lorre was a writer for the Mee-Maw episode.  I know Lorre is a huge Sheldon fan (he didn't want Sheldon to be a criminal in the Skywalker Ranch episode, but Molaro had to remind Lorre that Sheldon stole the Raiders film reel, not to mention Sheldon has multiple restraining orders, and was found in contempt of court for his traffic violation argument with the judge).  

However, I get the impression Lorre is not a big Amy fan.  I think it surprised him how much sympathy and support Amy got, post episode 8.24 and at ComicCon 2015.  I think that is why Amy was written so out of character during Season 9.  Lorre's vanity card on Earworm was about regret.  Then in the Mee-Maw episode Lorre was willing to write Sheldon as the hero, but cringe worthy lines for Amy that whether they are rewritten or dropped for the final episode make me shudder anytime Lorre is involved with a major Shamy plotline.  Also, informing Amy of the ring and that Penny knew about the ring make me fear the drama is not completely over.  Deep breaths though, wishful thinking, and Wowbagger's brilliant post about post reconciliation Shamy that keep me in good spirits.

Yep happy thoughts, thats why I made that video! I think I'm over thinking a lot of stuff because of all the recent drama. I know the taping reports aren't always the same from how we read it to how we view it, but I'm worried.  Amy is my favorite. I'm not gonna lie, I wasn't the biggest Sheldon fan before she came along, so I know most won't share my concerns with this. 

I worry about this Meenaw episode, because reading it... for some reason I'm thinking she was an enabler, and the more old clips I watch the more I fear this. The way she flies out just to check up on Sheldon's relationship, how it seemed she had it set it her mind to NOT like Amy, the "toy" she brought Sheldon like he was a kid.  

Now, in the empathy episode Sheldon's comment " if that isn't a time to verbal abuse my love ones, when is?". I really don't believe Mary would let that fly, cause we heard her in one episode tell him not to keep pointing out that he is smarter then everyone, people don't like it. His dad, while I would never vote him father of the year, did try to teach male bonding type things like football, which is why he got along with Bernie's dad. I'm starting to wonder if Meemaw pampered her moonpie a little to much in his youth. 

I think we will see Meewaw again in another episode, as a lot of others do. If I'm right on this... We're getting more drama that I do NOT want! 

 

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2 minutes ago, EvilStewie said:

I'm starting to wonder if she pampered her moonpie a little to much in his youth. 

She definitely did! And apparently she hasn't realised that he has grown. Consider her comment on having both a career and a relationship with Sheldon not being possible. Hello? This is ridiculous, really like thinking he needs a nanny and not a wife!

I think she will realize in this episode that Moonpie has grown up, and I think that she will be a bit shocked by this.

Meemaw will always be part of his life, but she has to accept that she is his past - Amy is his future.

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20 minutes ago, Radar said:

She definitely did! And apparently she hasn't realised that he has grown. Consider her comment on having both a career and a relationship with Sheldon not being possible. Hello? This is ridiculous, really like thinking he needs a nanny and not a wife!

I think she will realize in this episode that Moonpie has grown up, and I think that she will be a bit shocked by this.

Meemaw will always be part of his life, but she has to accept that she is his past - Amy is his future.

I hope this episode ends all that and Amy isn't gonna have to put her foot down.. again!I Her comment was "Mary said everything  was alright, but I had to make sure", So Mary can't control her either obviously! I really just want rainbows and butterfies  for a little bit! lol

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26 minutes ago, EvilStewie said:

Yep happy thoughts, thats why I made that video! I think I'm over thinking a lot of stuff because of all the recent drama. I know the taping reports aren't always the same from how we read it to how we view it, but I'm worried.  Amy is my favorite. I'm not gonna lie, I wasn't the biggest Sheldon fan before she came along, so I know most won't share my concerns with this. 

I worry about this Meenaw episode, because reading it... for some reason I'm thinking she was an enabler, and the more old clips I watch the more I fear this. The way she flies out just to check up on Sheldon's relationship, how it seemed she had it set it her mind to NOT like Amy, the "toy" she brought Sheldon like he was a kid.  

Now, in the empathy episode Sheldon's comment " if that isn't a time to verbal abuse my love ones, when is?". I really don't believe Mary would let that fly, cause we heard her in one episode tell him not to keep pointing out that he is smarter then everyone, people don't like it. His dad, while I would never vote him father of the year, did try to teach male bonding type things like football, which is why he got along with Bernie's dad. I'm starting to wonder if Meemaw pampered her moonpie a little to much in his youth. 

I think we will see Meewan again in another episode, as a lot of others do. If I'm right on this... We're getting more drama that I do NOT want! 

 

Actually, I am a Sheldon fan, but starting in Season 6, his insults gradually went from innocently clueless and well-intentioned, even if they came out wrong, to increasingly deliberate and hurtful, especially towards Amy.  Amy is not perfect, but I loved their early relationship so much that I held on all these years thinking they could get back to the mutual admiration they had for one another.  That somehow all this painful journey was because they grew at different rates with different needs, but that their strong platonic relationship underneath would carry them through.  Sheldon has genuine moments like hugging Leonard after Professor Proton died and consoling Howard after the death of Mrs. Wolowitz, but he seemed to put up extra walls towards Amy.  I could understand better if Sheldon let his guard down only around Amy, but not in front of others.  Hopefully, that is what is happening, but right now I am just confused.

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41 minutes ago, Radar said:

She definitely did! And apparently she hasn't realised that he has grown. Consider her comment on having both a career and a relationship with Sheldon not being possible. Hello? This is ridiculous, really like thinking he needs a nanny and not a wife!

I think she will realize in this episode that Moonpie has grown up, and I think that she will be a bit shocked by this.

Meemaw will always be part of his life, but she has to accept that she is his past - Amy is his future.

Agreed! I've known my fair share of guys who have this weird relationship with their mothers and/or grandmothers in which they're just coddled beyond reason and it's the single most infuriating and frustrating thing to deal with as a girlfriend. So this isn't even something that's limited to a ~special boy~ like Sheldon but his personality makes this kind of enabling so so much harder to deal with. I really hope Amy's insistence to treat Sheldon as a grown up will stick.

 

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23 minutes ago, Touche said:

Actually, I am a Sheldon fan, but starting in Season 6, his insults gradually went from innocently clueless and well-intentioned, even if they came out wrong, to increasingly deliberate and hurtful, especially towards Amy.  Amy is not perfect, but I loved their early relationship so much that I held on all these years thinking they could get back to the mutual admiration they had for one another.  That somehow all this painful journey was because they grew at different rates with different needs, but that their strong platonic relationship underneath would carry them through.  Sheldon has genuine moments like hugging Leonard after Professor Proton died and consoling Howard after the death of Mrs. Wolowitz, but he seemed to put up extra walls towards Amy.  I could understand better if Sheldon let his guard down only around Amy, but not in front of others.  Hopefully, that is what is happening, but right now I am just confused.

...Because he NEEDED extra walls with her. I agree with you, but I think he knew she was gonna get in in a way no other could or would! We are at a point now, that its time to ease up on that a little. I mean they can't get any closer, so whats the deal? A lot of Shamy fans want a breakup talk about how they felt and what they learned, I want a coitus talk!  What it meant, and how Sheldon ( he was the one holding that back) felt about it. I don't think that can progress until Sheldon sees a value to being "close" to someone you love. For a long time he viewed that as a baser urge that weaken the mind, that you should feed the intellect not the body. When they did have coitus it was for her, a gift

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2 hours ago, April said:

Agreed! I've known my fair share of guys who have this weird relationship with their mothers and/or grandmothers in which they're just coddled beyond reason and it's the single most infuriating and frustrating thing to deal with as a girlfriend. So this isn't even something that's limited to a ~special boy~ like Sheldon but his personality makes this kind of enabling so so much harder to deal with. I really hope Amy's insistence to treat Sheldon as a grown up will stick.

 

You know, I start to think this is the exact reason why I'm not bothered at all by the meemaw episode. I've spent almost all my life hanging around over sheltered boys by overprotective mothers (and/or grandmothers), my own father being one of them (yes, I know, maybe that's why I've always hung around over sheltered boys...), so I've learnt just to laugh about the grotesque situations that can occur with them and their families and to not take seriously the angry words said during a possible fight. And that's why for me it's not even a big deal if Meemaw will never like Amy; of course I would prefer to see a good relationship between them, but if it doesn't happen, from my personal experience it will not even depend on how Amy acts or how she treats Sheldon, it's just that for some (grand)mothers their boys deserve better (whatever "better" may mean). As long as Sheldon is on Amy's side, I don't see any problem, but again, that attitude depends just from my personal prospective on in laws- relationships altogether...

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1 hour ago, EvilStewie said:

...Because he NEEDED extra walls with her. I agree with you, but I think he knew she was gonna get in in a way no other could or would! We are at a point now, that its time to ease up on that a little. I mean they can't get any closer, so whats the deal? A lot of Shamy fans want a breakup talk about how they felt and what they learned, I want a coitus talk!  What it meant, and how Sheldon ( he was the one holding that back) felt about it. I don't think that can progress until Sheldon sees a value to being "close" to someone you love. For a long time he viewed that as a baser urge that weaken the mind, that you should feed the intellect not the body. When they did have coitus it was for her, a gift

^^^THIS.

Let us conversate of coitus, you cray-zee couple.

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3 hours ago, Touche said:

Actually, I am a Sheldon fan, but starting in Season 6, his insults gradually went from innocently clueless and well-intentioned, even if they came out wrong, to increasingly deliberate and hurtful, especially towards Amy.  Amy is not perfect, but I loved their early relationship so much that I held on all these years thinking they could get back to the mutual admiration they had for one another.  That somehow all this painful journey was because they grew at different rates with different needs, but that their strong platonic relationship underneath would carry them through.  Sheldon has genuine moments like hugging Leonard after Professor Proton died and consoling Howard after the death of Mrs. Wolowitz, but he seemed to put up extra walls towards Amy.  I could understand better if Sheldon let his guard down only around Amy, but not in front of others.  Hopefully, that is what is happening, but right now I am just confused.

I agree, and I kinda miss the old quirky Amy too, the one who was inappropriate and more socially awkward. The one who thought it was okay to experiment with Penny and compare her ability to solve problems with that of a monkey's. The Amy that enjoyed Sheldon quirks and all, even when he was being inappropriate. I liked episodes like the parking spot one, where Amy had Sheldon's back and was equally inappropriate as she helped him spray paint over Wolowitz's name on the curb. She has grown up a bit now, and appears more "normalized". I know people will argue "well yeah, its normal for the characters to grow and mature duh" and I get it, but I nonetheless miss that Shamy that took on the world together in a quirky dorky awkward way. 

Id love to see some of that again.

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21 minutes ago, wowbagger said:

yeah, I am honestly not too fussed if Gorgon Meemaw never falls on Amy's neck. Something tells me that the good lady would never like ANYBODY whom her moonpie liked THAT way. My own grandmum is like that with my dad and indeed all of her boys. I love her dearly and she is a wonderful, loving grandmother, but holy SHIT she's done a number on those men and holy SHIT if she is still around if and when ny nephews start bringing home girls....well, those girls will have quite a bit to think about. And Sheldon has always faced down his mother, his friends and now his Meemaw for his Amy, so I really don't think there is any issue if Meemawdusa stews in her corner. And all this makes me sound like I don't like her, which is not true! She sounds awesome. I have always, always had a soft spot for cantankerous old biddies. And I also don't foresee masses of drama for the simple reason that, as I said before, Sheldon was quite clear that he wouldn't really be listening to any poison about the woman he chose. So bring her on! If we get to see Amy sharpen her rhetorical tools around the old dear, all the better.

I agree. Grandmothers like that can be meddlesome to be sure, but they also have an unconditional loyalty to their grandkids and would do anything for them. Nothing wrong with that! My Texan grandmother was a sweet old gal and raised 11 kids. Sweet but you didnt mess with her or the grandkids either.

Id like the neuroscientist in Amy to figure out a way to pursuade Meemaw to be an ally vs. going toe to toe with her. Cmon Amy, it shouldnt be THAT difficult dear!

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2 hours ago, CuriousMeans said:

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Do I think the show would ever do this? No, never. Do I want them all to have this talk? A little. Just brief ones. Passing comments that convey a lot in a short window like when Howard went to space. But it could work humorously since the audience knows and is watching a needless train wreck unfold.

I'd lie if I'd say that I didn't find your exemplary scenario utterly delightful in some ways - I think my favourite bit might really be the idea that everyone is freaking out and Sheldon is calm in the background doing the maths and making tea for everyone (and maybe poking the guys with a metaphorical stick by asking some uncomfortable questions lol).

I also think that they probably won't do the whole "Who's pregnant??" dance since they revealed it to the audience already. So unless they're really just torturing the characters with that uncertainty for our entertainment here (not that I wouldn't find that hilarious) they can also just plain have Bernie announce it (maybe first to Howard and then to the gang??) and still have some lovely and funny conversations about everybody's future with kids and everything.

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11 hours ago, EvilStewie said:

...Because he NEEDED extra walls with her. I agree with you, but I think he knew she was gonna get in in a way no other could or would! We are at a point now, that its time to ease up on that a little. I mean they can't get any closer, so whats the deal?

Yeah, in terms of closeness Sheldon's attitude seems weirdly paradoxical at times. I mean, I do think that he's more open to Amy in some areas than he is to other characters, but at the same time he also seems to be more reserved trying to keep a distance and instead of with Amy he's having some very personal talks and revelatory moments with other characters. If I had to pinpoint it down to one thing then I would agree with you that for the longest time he didn't want to get too close to Amy because the moment he's revealing that sort of vulnerability to her the floodgates will open and that probably scared him more than anything.

And I also agree that now after the breakup and his epiphany is the perfect opportunity to have him and Amy share a profound moment like that.

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A lot of Shamy fans want a breakup talk about how they felt and what they learned, I want a coitus talk!  What it meant, and how Sheldon ( he was the one holding that back) felt about it. I don't think that can progress until Sheldon sees a value to being "close" to someone you love. For a long time he viewed that as a baser urge that weaken the mind, that you should feed the intellect not the body. When they did have coitus it was for her, a gift

Oh yes, if I had to choose I'd pick a talk that is more about them reflecting on a positive experience and seeing how they can apply that to strengthen their relationship in the future rather than dwelling on the heartbreak (yet again! ugh). Sheldon's heart breaking wasn't the only thing that happened in the first half of the season so how about you do something constructive here, show?? It would be nice to have a bit of a sweet talk about how they want to proceed from here - especially since they don't have an RA anymore that regulates physical contact. How has winging it for 2 months worked out so far??

And as CuriousMeans pointed out, the D&D scene is a great example of how to do it right. I'd love to have something like that again (maybe with less drama in the set up lol).

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