Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 9

[April]

Again, to be fair, I don't think we've seen Amy particularly unhappy with Sheldon since their reconciliation, quite the contrary in fact. The way some of you are ranting away at this you'd think we're back to square one with their old dynamic firmly in place but in the episodes we got so far and the ones we already know about there are maybe a few times when Amy roles her eyes but we haven't gotten a Shamy 1.0 kind of fight. At. All.

And yes, in this one episode Amy brought up her (from what I can tell mostly past) grievances when Sheldon is at his worst but again that is something that happened off screen and tbh I can't even tell if that's something from before their breakup or after because her example is pretty ambiguous. I mean, she mentions the Google font change but the last big change happened Sept 1st when they were still broken up. So either Sheldon was just randomly bringing it up in Dec/Jan or she was recounting an example from before their breakup. (Looking up the Google logo changes I'm kinda loving this one: "On May 24, 2014 the Google logo was updated, the second 'g' moved right one pixel and the 'l' moved down and right one pixel." because it's exactly the minuscule thing that would drive Sheldon mad. lol) Heck, she was specifically talking about a ruined date night - I always associate that with the RA. Do they even have designated date nights without an RA??? The episode after the 200th would be airing somewhen in March which would make it 3 months of them winging it. I'd love to see some sort of relationship summit to assess how they feel about that and whether or not they'd want some sort of RA back.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that I do think we've been shown a lot of positive progress in their relationship and I have no doubt that Amy is having the time of her life now as indicated by the latest TR.

As for her flaws, I also would love to see that explored - the Sheldon as a straight man to Amy being a bit of a weirdo kinda thing would absolutely delight me. And I guess I'm kinda seeing a bit in that scene when Amy is rubbing Sheldon's shoulder and he's shutting her down. It's not so much that I want to see Amy in a position of wanting and waiting again - but the adorable giddiness is out of place at this very moment and I'm absolutely alright with Sheldon setting her straight and being the one who's more level-headed here. If the show wants to sell me this "they help each other grow up" dynamic then please more of that because as exasperating as some of Sheldon's antics are to Amy, some of her antics and unrealistic expectations are just as exhausting to him. They are both a work in progress and I loved it in the past few episodes when they would openly tell each other if something was bugging them and it'd immediately put an end to it and/or the other made an effort to improve things. Above all else I love that this is a mutual thing. If the show keeps handling their conflicts like that I'll be very happy!

[nickelette424]

7 minutes ago, April said:

 

As for her flaws, I also would love to see that explored - the Sheldon as a straight man to Amy being a bit of a weirdo kinda thing would absolutely delight me. And I guess I'm kinda seeing a bit in that scene when Amy is rubbing Sheldon's shoulder and he's shutting her down. It's not so much that I want to see Amy in a position of wanting and waiting again - but the adorable giddiness is out of place at this very moment and I'm absolutely alright with Sheldon setting her straight and being the one who's more level-headed here. If the show wants to sell me this "they help each other grow up" dynamic then please more of that because as exasperating as some of Sheldon's antics are to Amy, some of her antics and unrealistic expectations are just as exhausting to him. They are both a work in progress and I loved it in the past few episodes when they would openly tell each other if something was bugging them and it'd immediately put an end to it and/or the other made an effort to improve things. Above all else I love that this is a mutual thing. If the show keeps handling their conflicts like that I'll be very happy!

Yes.   This is what I mean.   I think people forget what a lovely freakin weirdo this girl is and that has a lot of room to become a better girlfriend just as Sheldon had room to become a better boyfriend. 

[AnnJ]

9 hours ago, vonmar said:

But in a way I think she does.  We're 5 seasons beyond their introductions, their relationship is now at a new level.  When Amy is stroking his shoulder after the Meemaw blessing/ring talk, he tells her to settle down over the subject, it ain't happening right now. She gets it.

From what we have seen in the next two taping reports, if I recall correctly the relationship status is discussed during/after FWF. but the ring takes a back seat for awhile.

"if I recall correctly the relationship status is discussed during/after FWF."

 

Vonmar, from which taping report did you read this?  I remember it too, but I can't find it again.

[mirs1]

4 hours ago, April said:

And yes, in this one episode Amy brought up her (from what I can tell mostly past) grievances when Sheldon is at his worst but again that is something that happened off screen and tbh I can't even tell if that's something from before their breakup or after because her example is pretty ambiguous. I mean, she mentions the Google font change but the last big change happened Sept 1st when they were still broken up.

Thank you! That was driving me crazy...I vaguely remembered that the last Google font update was quite recent, so recent that I was almost sure they were still broken up, now I know I'm not crazy (even if my mother never had me tested...)

Anyway, in my opinion, in almost every episode after the reconciliation and in some of the pre-reconciliation ones (until 9.9 she was not her most of the time, I admit it...) there are many glimpses of "old" goofy Amy; some examples: In 9.3 all the recollections about the "sin closet"  (I know that many people was bothered by that kind of punishment, but the way she told about it was very "Amy" for me),  in 9.11 the "sexy" pose on her couch soon spoiled by the chain at the door and  "Let's get me waxed!", in 9.12 the Skype call about Best Best Western\vs Best Best Sales, Amy touching Sheldon's shoulder in the Meemaw episode (I didn't find it as the return of "pushing" Amy, it was vaguely close to it, but  still in the "goofy adorable" camp), in the Valentine episode all the FwF date,  the girls night and the text from Sheldon in 9.16. I think it's natural that she has grown, like all the other characters, and with growth it came also a sort of "normalization". Many things that made her so adorable in the past, when she was much more socially awkward than Sheldon has ever been, are gone with the contact with other people. The gist of it is still there, anyway. What I find a little upsetting, TBH, is that during this season she expresses her quirks just relating to other people (mainly Sheldon or the girls); I long for a scene in her lab, where she talks to a starfish or to a brain, or at her home, where she plays the harp expressing her feelings with music (I know MB can't play now due to her injury, but a girl can dream, right?) or she tries to discover how many fava beans she can put in her mouth. There is so much more the writers can do with her character alone. The plot line of the break up-reconciliation-follow up has been interesting and has given MB so many good opportunities in acting (this for me is her best season ever) but strangely has put Amy's character at the service to other characters more than in the past, for me. It is however a 20 minutes show (and sometimes even less than that), so if the writers decide to focus on a particular plot for some reason the single characters (unless they are Sheldon) have to be scarified to the "cause". I really hope in a b-plot at some point this season for Amy only. All things considered, anyway, I agree with April, she is happy now, rolling her eyes once in a while or saying out of anger some not very nice stuff doesn't  mean that Shamy 1.0 is on all the time.

Edited February 8, 2016 by mirs1

[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

What is everyone doing with regards to the 200th episode and spoilers?

I was gonna try and stay entirely spoiler free until I watch it but I don't think it's possible that someone on social media will not spoil me  I follow far too many TBBT blogs for that to happen!

Taping night is the 9th and it airs on the 25th ... 16 days to avoid this forum, instagram and tumblr. Yeah I'm not sure that I'm capable of that!  

[mirs1]

12 minutes ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said:

What is everyone doing with regards to the 200th episode and spoilers?

I was gonna try and stay entirely spoiler free until I watch it but I don't think it's possible that someone on social media will not spoil me  I follow far too many TBBT blogs for that to happen!

Taping night is the 9th and it airs on the 25th ... 16 days to avoid this forum, instagram and tumblr. Yeah I'm not sure that I'm capable of that!  

I won't even try!!! LOL!!

Edited February 8, 2016 by mirs1

[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

35 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

I won't even try!!! LOL!!

I think I might last long enough to skip the chat room and wait for an actual written TR before I cave but that's about it!  

[April]

33 minutes ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said:

What is everyone doing with regards to the 200th episode and spoilers?

I was gonna try and stay entirely spoiler free until I watch it but I don't think it's possible that someone on social media will not spoil me  I follow far too many TBBT blogs for that to happen!

Taping night is the 9th and it airs on the 25th ... 16 days to avoid this forum, instagram and tumblr. Yeah I'm not sure that I'm capable of that!  

Go spoiler free? And enjoy an episode on its own merits without having discussed every detail to death for weeks and gone into at least one fit about how everybody else's opinions are wrong™!??? What is this crazy talk, woman!??? LOL

Can't wait for the next TR! :D

[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

Just now, April said:

Go spoiler free? And enjoy an episode on its own merits without having discussed every detail to death for weeks and gone into at least one fit about how everybody else's opinions are wrong™!??? What is this crazy talk, woman!??? LOL

Can't wait for the next TR! :D

Can you imagine?!!!

 

I'm a spoiler_whore^TM I literally can't help myself! A new show started here not that long ago, I saw a trailer that was along the lines of "who is the murder!?" I made a guess then goggled to see if I was right so there was no reason to even watch that show! 

... Is there a rehab for this?!

[mirs1]

2 minutes ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said:

Can you imagine?!!!

 

I'm a spoiler_whore^TM I literally can't help myself! A new show started here not that long ago, I saw a trailer that was along the lines of "who is the murder!?" I made a guess then goggled to see if I was right so there was no reason to even watch that show! 

... Is there a rehab for this?!

I tried to go spoiler free for TFA, but then, when I was searching for further spoilers for TBBT (because the ones we have here were not enough, LOL!), I accidentally found spoilers for TFA...That was a sign, spoiler free does me no good!

[Soopysue]

1 hour ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said:

What is everyone doing with regards to the 200th episode and spoilers?

I was gonna try and stay entirely spoiler free until I watch it but I don't think it's possible that someone on social media will not spoil me  I follow far too many TBBT blogs for that to happen!

Taping night is the 9th and it airs on the 25th ... 16 days to avoid this forum, instagram and tumblr. Yeah I'm not sure that I'm capable of that!  

Spoilers all the way for me !!! 

[joyceraye]

8 hours ago, nickelette424 said:

Actually,  I think this is completely unfair to Sheldon here.   Sheldon played probably the biggest part in changing Amy's life.   And he might have resisted speeding up to catch up with her, but he has always,  always accepted her for who she was at face value.  A lot more than she has of him.  He is not wrong that she is a work in progress.   He really isn't.   I hate this idea that she's some freaking martyr.  Just like he wasn't wrong in Workplace during his speech at her for.   I wish the writers would let that stuff stand because it is the truth.  Sheldon began the socialization of Amy.  No one else wanted anything to do with her.  She was worse than Sheldon in the beginning.   Amy's admission was the full scope of the truth that they have changed each other,  but Sheldon's statement wasn't false at all and it is again disappointing that they let him speak the truth, then treat it like he is the clueless one all the time.   Sorry,  but I really hate this saint Amy, poor put upon Amy crap.  It's unfair to Sheldon and it is actually quite unfair to Amy as the depth of her imperfect character is beautiful and funny.   I wish people would remember that about her.  She is quirky,  she is a weirdo, while much better she definitely struggled with social interacts.  She can be a nag.   She can get so caught up in fantasy that she let's it cloud her reality.  She holds into things that bother her instead of communicating and it blows up.  She has work to do.   She played a role in the issues that lead to the break up.  This is not a Amy bashing posts.  This is a posts championing the beautifully imperfect Amy character.  She is more than a put upon woman.   She has her own story and struggles which don't include the difficult man she choose to be with.

**sorry if this long rant doesn't make sense.  I'm hopped up on Nyquil**

You make very good points.  I believe Sheldon was certainly Amy's motive for beginning the changes to herself that she did. How much he was the instrument of her changes perhaps I've underestimated. I can imagine that journey of a few paces she made from the table to the bar in order to invite herself to girls' night was one of the longest in her life. It took courage. She'd probably rather have taken her finals again.  ( Very much how a real neuroscientist I know feels about her driving test as so do I about mine. ) It must have been oh-so tempting to return to sit by Sheldon and go to the movies with the blokes when she needed to persist when Penny  tried to turn her down. But with hindsight it's apparent Amy'd realised she'd met a man who appealed to her, who at worst could mean she didn't have to go through the annual date-fishing if she could discover how to keep friendly with him for the rest of the year, and at unbelievably, scarcely-attainable best might be somebody she could talk to for the rest of her life. Observing the women his friends had a taste for and modelling herself on them must have looked like  her best chance. And as a bonus, lo - since he had friends of his own sex and age - maybe by some miracle she too could pick up a pair.

 Amy was a good twenty years behind in social comprehension and behaviour at the time. Five years is nothing, really. Work in progress she certainly still is ! Sheldon's not wrong there : it's barely seven weeks since she was racing down the stairs screaming, 'Let's get me waxed !' ( I just hope the grown women made sure she went to wherever you go  to in the US to get a long-acting progestegen shot at short notice, knowing her tendency to vomit if she drinks. No doubt her mother will have told her if you can't be good be careful but that's easily forgotten. :) ) It's even less time since she and Sheldon were discussing how relatively 'best' the Best Hotels and Best Buy shops were. I miss the maidzilla of honour and the monkeypoop-flinger so these little reminders are precious.

  Far as Amy still has to go, what gobsmacked me about Sheldon's claim was his blatant attitude before his meemaw that he was the only one responsible for Amy's progress, as if he was the sole teacher rather than a fellow-pupil.

I saw an interview somewhere with one of the writers of BBT who said that Amy and Sheldon had both been shown a new world. The world to which  Penny and Bernadette introduced Amy was one that she liked and therefore entered it enthusiastically and willingly. Sheldon was a lot more cautious about what he saw and took it at a slower pace. That summed up for me how I'd been taking Amy.

[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

1 hour ago, Soopysue said:

Spoilers all the way for me !!! 

This will be me in the Chat on Wednesday morning Sue: 

[Maddie]

10 hours ago, nickelette424 said:

Actually,  I think this is completely unfair to Sheldon here.   Sheldon played probably the biggest part in changing Amy's life.   And he might have resisted speeding up to catch up with her, but he has always,  always accepted her for who she was at face value.  A lot more than she has of him.  He is not wrong that she is a work in progress.   He really isn't.   I hate this idea that she's some freaking martyr.  Just like he wasn't wrong in Workplace during his speech at her for.   I wish the writers would let that stuff stand because it is the truth.  Sheldon began the socialization of Amy.  No one else wanted anything to do with her.  She was worse than Sheldon in the beginning.   Amy's admission was the full scope of the truth that they have changed each other,  but Sheldon's statement wasn't false at all and it is again disappointing that they let him speak the truth, then treat it like he is the clueless one all the time.   Sorry,  but I really hate this saint Amy, poor put upon Amy crap.  It's unfair to Sheldon and it is actually quite unfair to Amy as the depth of her imperfect character is beautiful and funny.   I wish people would remember that about her.  She is quirky,  she is a weirdo, while much better she definitely struggled with social interacts.  She can be a nag.   She can get so caught up in fantasy that she let's it cloud her reality.  She holds into things that bother her instead of communicating and it blows up.  She has work to do.   She played a role in the issues that lead to the break up.  This is not a Amy bashing posts.  This is a posts championing the beautifully imperfect Amy character.  She is more than a put upon woman.   She has her own story and struggles which don't include the difficult man she choose to be with.

**sorry if this long rant doesn't make sense.  I'm hopped up on Nyquil**

Omg, thank you. I would take out another social security number and become a new person just to give this post another like. I am so over this idea that Amy is some kind of martyr who can do no wrong and sits around and tolerates her ass of a boyfriend, waiting to be compensated, deservedly so. The idea that she's become this all-wise, socially-savvy (at least compared to Sheldon), mature girlfriend is so boring to me. That's not the Amy I fell in love with. I fell in love with the Amy who sang "I Kissed a Girl" in the cab, who drunkenly kissed her friend on her couch, who was smitten by her boyfriend reciting the ingredients of Pringles while her girlfriend sat by in confusion. Somewhere along the way she's become someone who tries to teach Sheldon how to behave and becomes annoyed when he does the things he's always done, the very things that she fell in love with. We have 6-7 other characters already who don't understand Sheldon, who've come to tolerate his behavior. The thing I love about Shamy is that they are two unapologetic weirdos, misundertood by everyone but each other, who were inexperienced and even adverse to love, but accidentally and unintentionally fell in love with each other and are clumsily fumbling their way through it in the only ways they know how.

And I'm not saying these things because I hate or I wanna bash Amy. I'm saying them because I love Amy, and I care so much about her character growth. And she DOES have a lot of growing to do. Just like every other character on this show, she is deeply flawed, incredibly human, capable of being a real jerk and making me want to slam her head with a mallet, but has a lot of love in her heart.

There was a line in Season 7 by Leonard. When Proton asked why he puts up with Sheldon, he said, "Because he's a little broken, and he needs me. I guess I need him too." It's one of my favorite lines. Talk about saying so much with so little.

I'm really excited about the upcoming episodes. I can't wait to see Amy talking excitedly about her new sex life with Sheldon. But more than anything I would really love to see Amy talk about why she loves him. Not his love-making or the diamond ring in his pocket or even his waxy complexion. I want to see or hear from Amy why he makes her happy. And "she puts up with all his crap, so she obviously loves him!" is the exact opposite of what I want to hear. We know she's willing to tolerate his crap, but why? (and I hate saying that because SHE HAS SHORTCOMINGS TOO)

I'm not saying I think she's unhappy. I think she is. I don't take an eye roll or a sigh here and there to mean she's unhappy (although after season 8 where I thought she looked the happiest she's ever been to end in a break up, I'm a little insecure about my beliefs at times). I'm sure we could all formulate a long list of reasons why Amy loves Sheldon. But in the wake of the breakup and makeup, in the wake of a season 8 where I struggle to see where everything went so wrong, I really want to hear it from Amy's mouth.

And I hope people don't think I'm not satisfied with where they're at right now. So many good things have happened recently that my head spins thinking about them. I'm extremely optimistic about where they stand and what's to come. There's just things I really want to see now. I want to see more Amy being goofy and weird (and someone mentioned wanting to see Sheldon play the straight man more -- hell yeah). I want to see more Shamy being stupidly happy around each other. And it can be just as simple as the smile Amy gave Sheldon after he showed her his different faces. Or their pontification discussion in Intimacy Acceleration. Mayim and Jim are so freaking good at playing their characters in a way that's so subtle, so understated. They don't have to make googly eyes and profess their love every five seconds to get across how much these characters love each other. They do it in ways that are much more delicate, and it's so much more powerful and believable.

I can't wait to see what's in store for 200 and the episodes beyond! Good stuff is coming!

Wow, I meant to type like one small paragraph.

 

[kerrycec03]

I hear what many of you are saying and it sounds like we will see silly Amy soon.  I think both have grown with each other & helped each other.  And I agree, without Sheldon Amy would have never changed, in any format.  The difference, as the writers explained, is Amy got a taste of "normalcy" and loved it.  She wanted to be the popular girl, she wanted to be wanted, she wanted friends, parties, drinks, shopping, etc.  And she went warp speed and in doing so she lost a little quirkiness.  BUT its still there.  We saw it when he went to reconcile at the door.  Her giddy way of saying "I love you too" was good old Amy.  That was genuine.  And while I do think in the Empathy episode she did rolling of the eyes, since they are back together, I haven't seen that behavior too much.  I think the point of Meemaw was to show Amy that she did almost loose him and Sheldon to put her #1.  I see all the "best" comments as defending and didn't read into any of those.  The point of the "Penny did you know" was that Lenny didn't clue her in (and I'm glad they didn't) on how serious Sheldon was about her. 

And yea, she is a work in progress as he is too.  I think that was for comedy a bit because clearly Sheldon stumbles more BUT I've never said Amy is perfect and never will.  During their break they both clearly made many missteps.  And as much as I HATE the helium episode, the only takeaway from that one is that Amy attended dating because she had no experience and I think she figured its what she is suppose to do.  They clearly have both learned/grown from one another.  And I do think Amy knows that her new world is because of Sheldon. 

 

I also think after the painful season 6 in which I found Amy was treated horribly by Sheldon most of the time, the writers have gone out of their way to show the shift in their relationship.  I do think season 8 & 9 to a degree we see them on an even playing field.  And that's really what a relationship should be.  So after all that rambling I do enjoy quirky Amy a lot and we've seen glimmers & I do think its more to come.

 

Edited February 8, 2016 by kerrycec03

[2L344]

45 minutes ago, Maddie said:

Omg, thank you. I would take out another social security number and become a new person just to give this post another like. I am so over this idea that Amy is some kind of martyr who can do no wrong and sits around and tolerates her ass of a boyfriend, waiting to be compensated, deservedly so. The idea that she's become this all-wise, socially-savvy (at least compared to Sheldon), mature girlfriend is so boring to me. That's not the Amy I fell in love with. I fell in love with the Amy who sang "I Kissed a Girl" in the cab, who drunkenly kissed her friend on her couch, who was smitten by her boyfriend reciting the ingredients of Pringles while her girlfriend sat by in confusion. Somewhere along the way she's become someone who tries to teach Sheldon how to behave and becomes annoyed when he does the things he's always done, the very things that she fell in love with. We have 6-7 other characters already who don't understand Sheldon, who've come to tolerate his behavior. The thing I love about Shamy is that they are two unapologetic weirdos, misundertood by everyone but each other, who were inexperienced and even adverse to love, but accidentally and unintentionally fell in love with each other and are clumsily fumbling their way through it in the only ways they know how.

And I'm not saying these things because I hate or I wanna bash Amy. I'm saying them because I love Amy, and I care so much about her character growth. And she DOES have a lot of growing to do. Just like every other character on this show, she is deeply flawed, incredibly human, capable of being a real jerk and making me want to slam her head with a mallet, but has a lot of love in her heart.

There was a line in Season 7 by Leonard. When Proton asked why he puts up with Sheldon, he said, "Because he's a little broken, and he needs me. I guess I need him too." It's one of my favorite lines. Talk about saying so much with so little.

I'm really excited about the upcoming episodes. I can't wait to see Amy talking excitedly about her new sex life with Sheldon. But more than anything I would really love to see Amy talk about why she loves him. Not his love-making or the diamond ring in his pocket or even his waxy complexion. I want to see or hear from Amy why he makes her happy. And "she puts up with all his crap, so she obviously loves him!" is the exact opposite of what I want to hear. We know she's willing to tolerate his crap, but why? (and I hate saying that because SHE HAS SHORTCOMINGS TOO)

I'm not saying I think she's unhappy. I think she is. I don't take an eye roll or a sigh here and there to mean she's unhappy (although after season 8 where I thought she looked the happiest she's ever been to end in a break up, I'm a little insecure about my beliefs at times). I'm sure we could all formulate a long list of reasons why Amy loves Sheldon. But in the wake of the breakup and makeup, in the wake of a season 8 where I struggle to see where everything went so wrong, I really want to hear it from Amy's mouth.

And I hope people don't think I'm not satisfied with where they're at right now. So many good things have happened recently that my head spins thinking about them. I'm extremely optimistic about where they stand and what's to come. There's just things I really want to see now. I want to see more Amy being goofy and weird (and someone mentioned wanting to see Sheldon play the straight man more -- hell yeah). I want to see more Shamy being stupidly happy around each other. And it can be just as simple as the smile Amy gave Sheldon after he showed her his different faces. Or their pontification discussion in Intimacy Acceleration. Mayim and Jim are so freaking good at playing their characters in a way that's so subtle, so understated. They don't have to make googly eyes and profess their love every five seconds to get across how much these characters love each other. They do it in ways that are much more delicate, and it's so much more powerful and believable.

I can't wait to see what's in store for 200 and the episodes beyond! Good stuff is coming!

Wow, I meant to type like one small paragraph.

 

lol its addictive, these long rants, arent they? speaking of proton, i like the scene where he is introduced to Amy while waiting in line at the pharmacy. She gets excited to see she dresses like a celeb because shes wearing the same ortho shoes as proton. and Proton questions Sheldon having a girlfriend, but after seeing Amys behavior Proton smiles and says "oh i get it" or something like that...

we want some of THAT Amy lol...the one that others see as much more similar to Sheldon than not.

Edited February 8, 2016 by 2L344

[Maddie]

31 minutes ago, 2L344 said:

lol its addictive, these long rants, arent they? speaking of proton, i like the scene where he is introduced to Amy while waiting in line at the pharmacy. She gets excited to see she dresses like a celeb because shes wearing the same ortho shoes as proton. and Proton questions Sheldon having a girlfriend, but after seeing Amys behavior Proton smiles and says "oh i get it" or something like that...

we want some of THAT Amy lol...the one that others see as much more similar to Sheldon than not.

Awww yeah!! I love that moment so much. What a gem.

[Soopysue]

2 hours ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said:

This will be me in the Chat on Wednesday morning Sue: 

Haha , I'd miss you if you weren't there  

BTW - how adorable is your gif of Jim , I need a moment 

[EvilStewie]

15 hours ago, EvilStewie said:

I agree with what your saying, but I think there is more to it. She told him in the car after he basically ditched her, she cared about him even though he wasn't perfect, then stayed away longer because he is "unbearable"  and he wanted her to show empathy for that, NO! What I really think it going on here though, is Sheldon knows Amy doesn't think he is perfect, and I think he feels vulnerable. I think if they broke up again, it would kill him! If you watch that unbearable clip, look at his face right after she says the word, its very telling!  Acting like you don't have flaws cause you are worried, ain't gonna help..which if you continue past that part on the same clip he points a finger at penny being unpleasant when she is sick. I get where he is coming from, but...

I'm quoting myself and posting this video, cause.. I think I'm on to something here. I think Sheldon feels vulnerable and I think he doesn't know how to deal with it. His ego would have protected him from feeling this way in the past. I know he is going to tell her that the breakup was a good thing soon, and he wouldn't have known how much she meant to him if she didn't.. that doesn't mean he can't feel intimidated by how much she means to him. She told him in the car she cared even though he wasn't perfect, then broke up with him cause he wasn't perfect.. 

 

Edited February 8, 2016 by EvilStewie

[notchinc]

I see we have evidence of a birthday party in 4A (Season 9 Discusison Thread)

Surprise party for Sheldon is the latest theory as Jim and Mayim aren't in the scene and Mayim's "waiting to shoot".

Do you think that will use the flashback sequence again or the dream sequence again??

Edited February 8, 2016 by notchinc

[April]

4 minutes ago, notchinc said:

I see we have evidence of a birthday party in 4A (Season 9 Discusison Thread)

Surprise party for Sheldon is the latest theory as Jim and Mayim aren't in the scene and Mayim's "waiting to shoot".

Do you think that will use the flashback sequence again or the dream sequence again. 

I guess it would depend on whether it's a run-through or a pre-taping. If they're pre-taping this because of the elaborate decoration I can imagine it being a shorter scene, maybe even a dream. The weird combination of guests kinda makes me think it's the latter. But then again I have no clue what the heck is going on anyway, so who knows!?

[mirs1]

1 minute ago, April said:

I guess it would depend on whether it's a run-through or a pre-taping. If they're pre-taping this because of the elaborate decoration I can imagine it being a shorter scene, maybe even a dream. The weird combination of guests kinda makes me think it's the latter. But then again I have no clue what the heck is going on anyway, so who knows!?

Maybe they will shoot tomorrow live the parts before or after the party (so no decorations) and they are shooting the party today...Anyway, the fact they are giving so much away makes me think also. There should be something "bigger" going on there, if they are telling us about this stuff! Or maybe, the writers think fans don't remember whose birthday it may be. But they know we are smart, don't they?

[Maddie]

I have a feeling it is something bigger. Remembering what Bill tweeted (how do you say bat cave and fortress of solitude in French, I think?) this is a batman themed birthday party for Sheldon, and I think there could be a batman-themed move in proposal from Sheldon. But we'll see?

[rachelshamyfan]

Maybe it's gonna be an hour long but they not saying till tomorrow

[April]

1 minute ago, Maddie said:

I have a feeling it is something bigger. Remembering what Bill tweeted (how do you say bat cave and fortress of solitude in French, I think?) this is a batman themed birthday party for Sheldon, and I think there could be a batman-themed move in proposal from Sheldon. But we'll see?

If they manage to address the living arrangements in some shape or form that indicates that things will finally change I'll probably love that episode just for this fact! lol