Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 9

[Amy Fowler]

I don't any of the writers want to be bad guys. They seem like nice folks judging from interviews. It's impossible for them to come up with jokes and stories that will please everyone so all we can do is happily or unhappily accept whatever they give us.

Absolutely! Couldn't agree more. I can't help but think maybe Molaro let slip the spoiler just to chill everyone out abit. Don't know why just a feeling :/

[Luna18]

Absolutely! Couldn't agree more. I can't help but think maybe Molaro let slip the spoiler just to chill everyone out abit. Don't know why just a feeling :/

Ah well maybe. Who knows. Lol

Edited August 22, 2015 by Luna18

[veejay]

I don't any of the writers want to be bad guys. They seem like nice folks judging from interviews. It's impossible for them to come up with jokes and stories that will please everyone so all we can do is happily or unhappily accept whatever they give us.

Oh yeah. They are lovely jerks but I appreciate it! 

[Trinabeana78]

Lol, I love my sister. When I told her that the second episode starts with Sheldon and Penny making out, her immediate reaction was "Ewww". She was like, "but they're like brother & sister. That's gross. It would be like seeing Monica and Ross going at it." Ha. She's a more casual BBT fan, as in she watches every episode but isn't part of online fandom at all. I'mcurious to see what the average fan's reaction will be. I think a lot of people will be like my sister and find it kind of icky.

Very excited to see what Mary is doing and how it relates to the ring. I'm going to the taping Tuesday so I'm wondering if they're going to show us the premiere episode with the Mary scene in it or last weeks taping. I'm not even sure which one I really want to see lol.

[April]

Very excited to see what Mary is doing and how it relates to the ring. I'm going to the taping Tuesday so I'm wondering if they're going to show us the premiere episode with the Mary scene in it or last weeks taping. I'm not even sure which one I really want to see lol.

Have a great time at the taping!

[juliadelg]

Ok, esto es lo que recuerdo. Sí, en el estreno Sheldon se ve sorprendido al saber de Penny que Amy ha estado pensando en esto durante mucho tiempo. No vemos ninguna comunicación de Penny & Amy PERO no tuvimos la sensación de Amy ha quemarropa dicho eso, pero sí sabemos que está expresado frustraciones sobre Sheldon a través de los años. Y Penny probablemente piensa la materia física es un gran problema (con sede fuera el final, cuando Penny le dice a Sheldon "hemos estado juntos durante 5 años y ni siquiera has dormido juntos"). Para alguien como Penny probablemente ella ve esto como un problema más grande y escuchar Amy probablemente hacer excavaciones a través de los años, llegó a la conclusión de que sí, Amy ha sido infeliz durante un tiempo. Yo no le daría a esta gran cosa, JMO. Sus más especulaciones de Penny.

 

Ahora, lo hizo choque Sheldon al núcleo y creo que ahora está en el lugar de tratar de hacer su celoso y también hacerla lo echo de menos. 

En el episodio 2 vemos la llamada de Skype, nos damos cuenta de que él llega a ponerse en contacto con ella cada 20 minutos (sin espacio para respirar), él menciona que tienen un bebé junto a la que Amy es como WTF, y dice FWFs ... .She simplemente pone los ojos y dice no (lo que aquí se está tratando de usar un poco de la culpa de la referencia de bebé y FWF para conseguir que vuelva). En esta escena, dice "Yo estoy viendo que más ahora disuelta entonces antes" a la que dice "ver es por eso que usted debe volver a mí". Ella también dice "Sé que esto es difícil, es difícil para mí también". 

Luego vemos el intercambio caja. Yo ya escribí la escena en detalle, pero Sheldon primero diciendo "hemos hecho un gran equipo" ... entonces cambiar a intentar dar a entender que está recibiendo alrededor (fallando terriblemente en este) es más de los signos de lo que tratan de obtener su espalda

Entonces la pesadilla FMF. Él está enojado y herido, claro como el día y ama y extraña a su tan malo. Usted ve mirándola en su apartamento (y por una fracción de segundo le parece "aww ella todavía se preocupa", pero nos damos cuenta más tarde que él le envió el enlace ") Todos hemos hecho esto cuando se rompe en marcha o están en lucha con su ex, que arremeten pero era arremeter lleno de excavaciones para hacer sentir culpable, pero de una manera dulce. Dijo (el uso de banderas de los países para hacer su punto) que ella le consiguió / ella un pastel de cumpleaños y se lo comió a pesar de que probado horrible. ¿Qué te dice eso? Y entonces él dice algo así como "Usted / No está consiguiendo más joven". Así que sí, ¿eran agradables excavaciones NO, pero eran ellos llenos de bondad sheldony SÍ. Y fiel a su personaje , así es como Sheldon expresa

y luego durar ves el intercambio puerta etiqueta. Él sigue pensando estas locuras están trabajando. Y como se puede ver, no su trabajo y ella es cada vez más enojado y frustrado. Por lo tanto, creo que la línea de Bad Boyfriend de Penny hizo él los golpes y no siempre el mejor con el trato con las emociones, Sheldon eligen probablemente google estas cosas y tratar estas payasadas. Estoy bastante seguro de próximos episodios veremos que vuelva a centrarse y realmente conseguir lo que pasa. 

 

Él tiene esta línea de tiempo para ellos. Eso es bastante claro ahora, y ella rompió eso. Tuvo la participación / sexo / matrimonio / bebés / etc todos probablemente conspiró y BOOM está arruinada ahora. Pero, de nuevo, su única habido dos episodios. Veo gran esperanza de todo esto. Y cada jab se llena con un doble significado. Y eso no es ni la mitad de las insinuaciones sexuales mezclados. 

Amy se dará cuenta de lo que tenía y lo aprecian. Sheldon se dará cuenta de que tiene que ser # 1 y ser un poco más desinteresado hacia ella. Todavía no los veo no estar en escenas juntos ni nada. Pero este episodio de dos cosas algo tenía que suceder (y mucho de ello fue la dulzura llena de dolor). Según lo mencionado por Molaro Ambos tienen una pierna en reposo durante esta y nunca me han dicho que esto es culpa de Sheldon o todo hecho para Sheldon para aprender. Ambos necesitan trabajo. Amy se dará cuenta de lo que tenía y entender lo mucho que ha llegado para ella. Ella no lo ve. Y él tiene que poner de su # 1 y hacer algo sin que se desencadena por la reacción de Amy. Estoy muy esperanzado que ambos aprenderán y crecerán. 

 

Así indirectamente en el estreno vimos que acechan ella, pero en realidad no hace nada. En el episodio 2 ves lo intente locuras para tratar de ganar la espalda. 

Thanks for this ! 

There are a lot shamy ...

[Soopysue]

Lol, I love my sister. When I told her that the second episode starts with Sheldon and Penny making out, her immediate reaction was "Ewww". She was like, "but they're like brother & sister. That's gross. It would be like seeing Monica and Ross going at it." Ha. She's a more casual BBT fan, as in she watches every episode but isn't part of online fandom at all. I'mcurious to see what the average fan's reaction will be. I think a lot of people will be like my sister and find it kind of icky.

Very excited to see what Mary is doing and how it relates to the ring. I'm going to the taping Tuesday so I'm wondering if they're going to show us the premiere episode with the Mary scene in it or last weeks taping. I'm not even sure which one I really want to see lol.

Have a brilliant time on Tuesday, hope you get to see a good ShAmy one

If you get a chance to spoil us a little I'd be very grateful  . 

[Luna18]

Lol, I love my sister. When I told her that the second episode starts with Sheldon and Penny making out, her immediate reaction was "Ewww". She was like, "but they're like brother & sister. That's gross. It would be like seeing Monica and Ross going at it." Ha. She's a more casual BBT fan, as in she watches every episode but isn't part of online fandom at all. I'mcurious to see what the average fan's reaction will be. I think a lot of people will be like my sister and find it kind of icky.

Very excited to see what Mary is doing and how it relates to the ring. I'm going to the taping Tuesday so I'm wondering if they're going to show us the premiere episode with the Mary scene in it or last weeks taping. I'm not even sure which one I really want to see lol.

I've never been to a taping before but I think they show the new episode from the week before so I doubt it'll be the premier. 

Funnily enough, the more I think about the Shenny nightmare sequence the more okay I am with it  I'm not happy about it but it doesn't really bother me anymore lol. Anyway I've said it before that I think the general non-shipping audience will probably laugh and I'd like to laugh too (which is a possibility as long as it doesn't last longer than 5 seconds ). Shock will probably be near-universal but I think the average viewer will probably find it either funny or yucky. 

Anyway have fun at the taping! I hope it's a good episode. And if you don't mind sharing spoilers with us, it will be much appreciated of course.

 

[Amy Fowler]

Lol, I love my sister. When I told her that the second episode starts with Sheldon and Penny making out, her immediate reaction was "Ewww". She was like, "but they're like brother & sister. That's gross. It would be like seeing Monica and Ross going at it." Ha. She's a more casual BBT fan, as in she watches every episode but isn't part of online fandom at all. I'mcurious to see what the average fan's reaction will be. I think a lot of people will be like my sister and find it kind of icky.

Very excited to see what Mary is doing and how it relates to the ring. I'm going to the taping Tuesday so I'm wondering if they're going to show us the premiere episode with the Mary scene in it or last weeks taping. I'm not even sure which one I really want to see lol.

lol at your sister haha it's true though! They are like just like brother and sister.

Have fun at the taping! Let us know how it goes 

[Juni]

Lol, I love my sister. When I told her that the second episode starts with Sheldon and Penny making out, her immediate reaction was "Ewww". She was like, "but they're like brother & sister. That's gross. It would be like seeing Monica and Ross going at it." Ha. She's a more casual BBT fan, as in she watches every episode but isn't part of online fandom at all. I'mcurious to see what the average fan's reaction will be. I think a lot of people will be like my sister and find it kind of icky.

Very excited to see what Mary is doing and how it relates to the ring. I'm going to the taping Tuesday so I'm wondering if they're going to show us the premiere episode with the Mary scene in it or last weeks taping. I'm not even sure which one I really want to see lol.

That's very exciting! I really hope you enjoy the taping (but I'm sure you will). Maybe you'll be able to calm our nerves

[Susana Alcira]

On Tenure episode ( season 6 x 20, two and a half years ago) Amy says to Sheldon: "If you get tenure, you may buy a house, settle down, marry, START A FAMILY"....

Amy has the family idea inside  her mind since a long time ago  ( IMO at least)!

[Luna18]

On Tenure episode ( season 6 x 20, two and a half years ago) Amy says to Sheldon: "If you get tenure, you may buy a house, settle down, marry, START A FAMILY"....

Amy has the family idea inside  her mind since a long time ago  ( IMO at least)!

Maybe. It's a possibility. But the writers of TBBT aren't exactly known for being keen on continuity so it's possible that they forgot about that...

[Amy Fowler]

On Tenure episode ( season 6 x 20, two and a half years ago) Amy says to Sheldon: "If you get tenure, you may buy a house, settle down, marry, START A FAMILY"....

Amy has the family idea inside  her mind since a long time ago  ( IMO at least)!

from Shamy post-coital to Shamy family #somanyfeels

[Musickat18]

 

On Tenure episode ( season 6 x 20, two and a half years ago) Amy says to Sheldon: "If you get tenure, you may buy a house, settle down, marry, START A FAMILY"....

Amy has the family idea inside  her mind since a long time ago  ( IMO at least)!

Wanting to have a family with the person you love and wanting a family for the sake of having a family are two different things though. She wants those things with Sheldon, but that doesn't necessarily mean she wants them with whoever would give them to her. I have seen no indication from Amy that she broke up with Sheldon because she is worried about not starting a family. From the things she said in the finale and what we've gleaned from the first 2 episodes, she seems to just feel that she is constantly pushing against a brick wall trying to get Sheldon to move forward. Back in season 6, for example, she asked him about intimacy and he explained that he felt things were extremely intimate. The biggest problem is a lack of communication in areas of their wants, needs, and expectations in the relationship. From my perspective (this is just my opinion based on what I've seen) both feel pretty vulnerable regarding their feelings, wants, needs, and expectations. This is new ground for them BOTH. Because Sheldon holds things close to the chest, Amy feels that she's not a priority in his life, or that if she doesn't push him, he'll never move things forward on his own. And I agree with her that that is exhausting. To always feel like you have to push someone ahead is exhausting work. So, from my perspective, her problem isn't that she's feeling her biological clock ticking, it's that she doesn't want to shove Sheldon forward anymore. It's too exhausting for her. She wants a family with Sheldon, but she doesn't feel like shoving him in that direction anymore. If by some horror they never reconciled, I doubt Amy would just go get a boyfriend and start a family with any guy she finds off the street.

[Susana Alcira]

Maybe. It's a possibility. But the writers of TBBT aren't exactly known for being keen on continuity so it's possible that they forgot about that...

No, they didn´t. At the 7 x 24, Sheldon, in anger, befor leaving Amy´s apartment, more or less repeat the same words to Amy.

[stardustmelody]

On Tenure episode ( season 6 x 20, two and a half years ago) Amy says to Sheldon: "If you get tenure, you may buy a house, settle down, marry, START A FAMILY"....

Amy has the family idea inside  her mind since a long time ago  ( IMO at least)!

Yes she has, but only with him...and Sheldon knows that she wants those things with him, but I do think as jenafan and Koops have said, I think it is more that Amy wants validation that they will always be working together on their future and mold it together and that she won't be an afterthought.   I think she wants to know that at least a fair amount of time she is first in his mind (maybe at work being an exception because she would understand that work content may occupy the mind first while at work).   But I think other than work, she wants to be first in his mind as he is first in hers.   She wants it to be much more of an equally balanced relationship instead of always being "skewed in his favor."    

But there is no doubt that she has expressed and dropped hints that she desires marriage, a family, and the whole nine-yards.   But I think Sheldon wants those things as well, he just has never told her that or even made it clear that was his desire.  If anything he has made her feel opposite by his running off on a train, etc.   

I have no idea what Mary is going to say or what Sheldon is going to talk to her about, but I am looking forward to that conversation and learning more.

Edited August 22, 2015 by stardustmelody

[koops]

 

Wanting to have a family with the person you love and wanting a family for the sake of having a family are two different things though. She wants those things with Sheldon, but that doesn't necessarily mean she wants them with whoever would give them to her. I have seen no indication from Amy that she broke up with Sheldon because she is worried about not starting a family. From the things she said in the finale and what we've gleaned from the first 2 episodes, she seems to just feel that she is constantly pushing against a brick wall trying to get Sheldon to move forward. Back in season 6, for example, she asked him about intimacy and he explained that he felt things were extremely intimate. The biggest problem is a lack of communication in areas of their wants, needs, and expectations in the relationship. From my perspective (this is just my opinion based on what I've seen) both feel pretty vulnerable regarding their feelings, wants, needs, and expectations. This is new ground for them BOTH. Because Sheldon holds things close to the chest, Amy feels that she's not a priority in his life, or that if she doesn't push him, he'll never move things forward on his own. And I agree with her that that is exhausting. To always feel like you have to push someone ahead is exhausting work. So, from my perspective, her problem isn't that she's feeling her biological clock ticking, it's that she doesn't want to shove Sheldon forward anymore. It's too exhausting for her. She wants a family with Sheldon, but she doesn't feel like shoving him in that direction anymore. If by some horror they never reconciled, I doubt Amy would just go get a boyfriend and start a family with any guy she finds off the street.

So much this! (Or at least I hope so - that's my #1 worry in this whole situation. To have them write Amy going off to find some placeholder for all that).

[Susana Alcira]

Of course Amy wants a family with Sheldon ( Season 8 Mars children, again) She wants kids with the man she loves, no with  any random man!

Edited August 22, 2015 by Susana Alcira

[stardustmelody]

I hope we start to see a "turn" happening in the third episode where we can get some hope that this isn't going to drag out to be a big soap opera.   If they have Amy go off to date other people, it is too much of a soap opera and will drag things further.  If they show Sheldon making progress and begin to do something more self-sacrificial then I think we can have some hope that there is a good conversation coming that will bring them back in sync.  

[Amy Fowler]

I hope we start to see a "turn" happening in the third episode where we can get some hope that this isn't going to drag out to be a big soap opera.   If they have Amy go off to date other people, it is too much of a soap opera and will drag things further.  

with Sheldon posting all these threats to her about him 'getting other women' I can't see Amy stooping to his level like that. I could be wrong but, like you, I feel it would be to much like a soap opera if that's what they did

Edited August 22, 2015 by Amy Fowler

[jenafan]

I would lose my marbles if the scene is Sheldon talks to Mary about the break-up and he's "fine" with it, how he's holding out really well,but Mary sees otherwise and tells him right off his face that he isn't.

I can see Mary saying, knowing how difficult her son can be,  "Now Shel-Lee, listen to your Momma.  By Jesus, that girl loves you.   If she thought you were so bad and never made her happy, she would not have stuck with you for all these years.   You don't just let this one go by saying you are fine with it, because I know otherwise."

A conversation such as this would soothe Sheldon's soul from Penny's take on the reason for the break up and give Sheldon determination to continue his efforts to win Amy back by calling her mind to the things they used to do together.   A nice transition from Ep 9.1 to 9.2.

When Sheldon asks her what exactly he should do to make her happy ("Do you want me to withdraw my application?"), she says that's not the point. That she doesn't demand anything specific, she just wants them to plan a future *together*. What I love about that Amy, and about the Amy in Prom, was that it was an Amy that expressed how being with Sheldon was the most important thing for her, not the details of how that looks like. That what is important to her is that they are in this together and work out a future that works for them both, rather than having a checklist of things in mind that she wants him to commit to.

I agree 100% with this statement.

[koops]

I hope we start to see a "turn" happening in the third episode where we can get some hope that this isn't going to drag out to be a big soap opera.   If they have Amy go off to date other people, it is too much of a soap opera and will drag things further.  If they show Sheldon making progress and begin to do something more self-sacrificial then I think we can have some hope that there is a good conversation coming that will bring them back in sync.  

Ditto. Which is why I keep saying I need hints of what's going on in Amy's head, and that she's not just resolute in leaving him and just waiting for him to get it and leave her alone. Give her space, yes. But leave her alone so she can move on, or for him to get it that they're over, no. I would hate if all this plot were about teaching Sheldon to get the concept of "It's over. It's hard, but it's over." As much as I like to see Sheldon chasing her and trying in his own convoluted and awkward ways to show her he wants her, I want to see Amy missing him even more right now. I hope we will be done with stalker Sheldon and get some glimpse of that soon. 

[Juni]

Both Amy and Sheldon are very pragmatic and practical. Amy states in 7.18 how they've got everything planned out. I don't think they spoke about or included having a family in this, though. Still I believe they were both planning and expecting a future together once Sheldon asked Amy to be his girlfriend. When those two commit to a relationship, it's for life. That's the most romantic thing ever!

Edited August 22, 2015 by Juni

[Susana Alcira]

Frankly, I don´t see Amy dating other people. As I always say, the essence of SHAMY is that they are experimenting "love matters" together for the first time.

If Amy REALLY makes out and kisses another man on screen,( unless it is  Sheldon´s nightmare, I hope not!) the writers will kill SHAMY for ever, even if Sheldon and Amy end together, happy and for ever.

This is the way I see SHAMY. First time for them together for all things about love. and only between them. They are SHAMY, not a" normal" or regular  couple. This is the magic of SHAMY, at least for me

I am not counting the shenny kiss, because it happened ONLY in Leonard´s nightmare!   It has nothing to do with SHAMY

 

[jenafan]

Ditto. Which is why I keep saying I need hints of what's going on in Amy's head, and that she's not just resolute in leaving him and just waiting for him to get it and leave her alone. Give her space, yes. But leave her alone so she can move on, or for him to get it that they're over, no. I would hate if all this plot were about teaching Sheldon to get the concept of "It's over. It's hard, but it's over." As much as I like to see Sheldon chasing her and trying in his own convoluted and awkward ways to show her he wants her, I want to see Amy missing him even more right now. I hope we will be done with stalker Sheldon and get some glimpse of that soon. 

It seems Amy has been spending a great deal of time alone in her apartment.  I would like to see some interaction between her and her friends (preferably Penny)where she talks about her feelings so we can know what is going on in her head.   What caused her to tire of the relationship when she has been tolerant for so many years?  Did something happen off-camera?   Is she missing Sheldon?  Does she regret the break up?   Does she eventually want to get back together?   I know we can all infer this, but it would be nice to get some confirmation via her own words.

Given the circumstances, I long for Sheldon to give Amy the space she needs just to get answers to these questions.