Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 9

[DoctorWhat]

I really liked that Penny went to comfort him in the end.I would like it even more if that was Leonard instead.I truly value long frienship more than romantic relationships and I believe it is something that has greater chance of lasting longer. I know that Amy had been his friend before she was his girlfriend but still, Penny and especially Leonard have been longer in his life.Also, speaking of frienship I wanted to say how much I like the tiny Shelnard moments this season.In the past I thought their relationship as friends was disappointing but now Leonard finally seems to really care, and so does Sheldon in his own werd way.I hope it isn't just me who can see this...

[Cindi May]

40 minutes ago, DoctorWhat said:

I really liked that Penny went to comfort him in the end.I would like it even more if that was Leonard instead.I truly value long frienship more than romantic relationships and I believe it is something that has greater chance of lasting longer. I know that Amy had been his friend before she was his girlfriend but still, Penny and especially Leonard have been longer in his life.Also, speaking of frienship I wanted to say how much I like the tiny Shelnard moments this season.In the past I thought their relationship as friends was disappointing but now Leonard finally seems to really care, and so does Sheldon in his own werd way.I hope it isn't just me who can see this...

I think this show is at its best when it focuses on friendship tbh. After all it was the initial premise. It's about 4 friends and the pretty girl next door that arrives in their world. The entire show is based especially around the friendship between Leonard and Sheldon, since the pilot. So it's always nice when they show cute moments between them. As much as they complain about each other those 2 have a strong bond. They always had. As Leonard said before "Sheldon needs me because he's a little broken but I guess I need him too." They're like brothers.

Edited February 28, 2016 by Cindi May

[camelliayao]

16 hours ago, Thyanic <3 said:

I completely agree!!
It wasn't the hug itself what bothered me, Sheldon can hug whomever he wants, he's free to do it. But  I couldn't imagine how i would feel if my boyfriend's best friend (who is my friend as well) took away from me the opportunity to comfort him, Penny went to talk to sheldon over amy's desire (and right) to do it, she didn't care about it, she didn't ask if Amy was "ok" with that, Penny just decided that she was the right (perfect) person and did it; Amy is Sheldon's girlfriend she was there in front of penny worried about her boyfriend, then where is Amy's place in sheldon's life, in his hard times?,  what would it happen if Sheldon decides to stay in the bathroom with penny by his side?? amy had stayed outside with all the party, guests, food, cake, awaiting for his boyfriend and his female best friend while they have a heart to heart conversation in the bathroom? Penny and Leonard have known sheldon for a long time (as leonard said) but that seems to me that they think amy is not good enough for sheldon not even to comfort him or help him to face his painful experiences from childhood.. c'mon!! Amy deserves the chance to try it, to prove how much sympathetic, understandable and helpful can be with the person she loves, she actually had proved it so many times...moments like this are the reason why sheldon is so attached to leonard and penny and so much that he can't imagine his life out of that apartment with other people around him... and for what i see this is not gonna change.. JMO..

Yes to this.

Also I think it's a little out of chracter for Leonard because usually he's quite happy when Amy can take Sheldon off his hands.

Knowing someone longer doesn't necessarily mean knowing someone better. Otherwise Sheldon's siblings should comfort him lol. The very reason that Sheldon and Amy become a couple is that they're soul mates. They understand each other. Sheldon had a mental breakdown after the first time they "broke up". No body else had that much influence on Sheldon's life before. If it was Leonard/Penny/Howard/Raj who "broke up" with Sheldon after knowing him for only three months, would Sheldon feel upset? No, he probably wouldn't even notice.

And that long, warm bathroom conversation between Sheldon and Penny didn't help much, did it? Sheldon was still panic and uptset when he came out of the bathroom. It was Amy's words, saying that Sheldon being born was the best gift for her that cheered Sheldon up finally. And the fact Sheldon was like "whatever" to Adam West's appearance while acting all excited because Amy had Stephen Hawking sing him Happy Birthday says a lot too.

Amy understands Sheldon. She knows what to say to make Sheldon happy. So does time really matter? Yes she only knows him for five and a half years, so what? She can pick the exact words to make him happy every time. She's the only one who's able to teach Sheldon to drive. She can tell he's drunk by a missing question mark. I guess the additional three years doesn't help that much, huh, Penny.

What I'm trying to say is that "I should comfort Sheldon because I know him for a longer time" argument is ridiculous and is OOC for Leonard. And I can't believe Amy can't think of anything else other than "I've seen him naked". Where is the smart Amy we know?

I'm about to say my theory again and I know people don't like it. But I do think the whole Leonard/Amy conflict was there just to create an opportunity for the following Sheldon/Penny scene. Otherwise there's no way they would have this weird argument. The writers want to bring back some happy memories of the first three seasons. The same with the hug. (If I remember correctly, 211 with the Shenny hug has the second highest rating on IMDB out of all TBBT episodes)

[Esteben Feynman]

I would like to weigh in. I was a little bothered by the hug and the moment where Penny went and talked to Sheldon instead of Amy but I believe it was for a bigger purpose. I believe that it had to be Penny so Sheldon could forgive his "sister" for all the mean things that she did to him as a child. With Penny being the catalyst for his sister. With him being able to move past it, he is growing up and becoming an adult. I'll admit it's a little tedious on how slow the writers are making it, in real life it'd be shorter than this. With him growing up he will be able to appreciate Amy more and will allow himself to be close to her, as close as he is to Penny. I think we'll see a living arrangement change toward the end of this season. If not, then they will go until season 12, but I hope they end after season 11. End the show on top. Just my thoughts. You can continue about your day now. Lol.

[xjax]

On February 27, 2016 at 6:21 PM, camelliayao said:

I'm about to say my theory again and I know people don't like it. But I do think the whole Leonard/Amy conflict was there just to create an opportunity for the following Sheldon/Penny scene. Otherwise there's no way they would have this weird argument.

Oh Boy.. I agree.. Makes me feel sad that writters need to go this way...  I wish Leonard could remember Amy told him she would like to have Sheldon more confortable with her (7 x21).. But what writers do..Have Leonardo discuss with her to see who is more important and Penny stealing the moment... C´mom they just get back together from a harsh break up... 

 

Amy: Can I confess something? Once in a while, I get a little jealous of how close Penny and Sheldon are.

Leonard: Really?

Amy: I mean, not in a romantic way. It’s just, she really has some sort of connection with him.

Leonard: Well, well they’ve known each other a long time, and Penny grew up around horses, so she knows how to approach him without making him skittish.

Amy: Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad they’re friends. I just wish he’d be that comfortable around me already.

Leonard: Well, it took him a long time to get comfortable around me, too.

Amy: Really? What did you do?

Leonard: Something terrible in a former life? I don’t know.

[camelliayao]

54 minutes ago, xjax said:

Oh Boy.. I agree.. Makes me feel sad that writters need to go this way...  I wish Leonard could remember Amy told him she would like to have Sheldon more confortable with her (7 x21).. But what writers do..Have Leonardo discuss with her to see who is more important and Penny stealing the moment... C´mom they just get back together from a harsh break up... 

Saw on another web site and kind of agree... writers don´t know what to do with Penny/Leonard plots and since they are one of the major/higher salary +Sheldon.... they have to find a way to mix them with all histories..penny stealing bernie moment last week, knowing about the ring bf Amy, having attention from Meemaw.. really writters ? I´m starting to get piss off..I know you can do much better....

Amy: Can I confess something? Once in a while, I get a little jealous of how close Penny and Sheldon are.

Leonard: Really?

Amy: I mean, not in a romantic way. It’s just, she really has some sort of connection with him.

Leonard: Well, well they’ve known each other a long time, and Penny grew up around horses, so she knows how to approach him without making him skittish.

Amy: Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad they’re friends. I just wish he’d be that comfortable around me already.

Leonard: Well, it took him a long time to get comfortable around me, too.

Amy: Really? What did you do?

Leonard: Something terrible in a former life? I don’t know.

It's totally fine to create a moment for Sheldon and Penny. I mean a lot of people like their friendship or whatever that is. I'm also fine with their hug considering that's sort of a tribute to the show's previous seasons. But hinting Leonard is more qualified to comfort Sheldon than Amy is just wrong on so many levels. You can't compare best friend with girlfriend. The writers should've just send Penny to comfort Sheldon without having the argument.

The writers pointed out explicitly that Amy was upset becasue Sheldon doesn't open up to her completely. But did they do anything about that? No. Two years later, Amy's still an outsider. Even Leonard considers her as an outsider. 

[camelliayao]

1 hour ago, xjax said:

Oh Boy.. I agree.. Makes me feel sad that writters need to go this way...  I wish Leonard could remember Amy told him she would like to have Sheldon more confortable with her (7 x21).. But what writers do..Have Leonardo discuss with her to see who is more important and Penny stealing the moment... C´mom they just get back together from a harsh break up... 

Saw on another web site and kind of agree... writers don´t know what to do with Penny/Leonard plots and since they are one of the major/higher salary +Sheldon.... they have to find a way to mix them with all histories..penny stealing bernie moment last week, knowing about the ring bf Amy, having attention from Meemaw.. really writters ? I´m starting to get piss off..I know you can do much better....

Amy: Can I confess something? Once in a while, I get a little jealous of how close Penny and Sheldon are.

Leonard: Really?

Amy: I mean, not in a romantic way. It’s just, she really has some sort of connection with him.

Leonard: Well, well they’ve known each other a long time, and Penny grew up around horses, so she knows how to approach him without making him skittish.

Amy: Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad they’re friends. I just wish he’d be that comfortable around me already.

Leonard: Well, it took him a long time to get comfortable around me, too.

Amy: Really? What did you do?

Leonard: Something terrible in a former life? I don’t know.

One of my friends suggested that if they have Penny say "This is ridiculous. Amy do you want to go in or not?" and Amy answers "You go. I'm not done with this argument" in a funny way or something like that, it would be much better.

I feel the same. Because this way Leonard and Penny actually considers Amy as Sheldon's significant other. Penny cares about how Amy feels and asks for her opinion. This way there's progress and development on the show because remember Lenny just let Sheldon go in season 7 finale without telling Amy? Unfortunately, this is not what happened in the episode. I felt so sorry for Amy on at the taping. She was totally ignored. I felt she could just walk away and nobody would notice it.

[rachelshamyfan]

I hated that scene in the bar, to me it came out of nowhere and was just stupid

[April]

9 hours ago, camelliayao said:

Yes to this.

Also I think it's a little out of chracter for Leonard because usually he's quite happy when Amy can take Sheldon off his hands.

Yes and no. I think showing that after everything they've been through Leonard genuinely caring about Sheldon was actually a much needed element for an episode like the 200th. Not only has the Shelnard friendship always been a cornerstone of the show but there's also been quite an overabundance of snide remarks from Leonard towards Sheldon to the point of everyone asking "Why the fuck is he still living in 4A then?" so that seeing Leonard still caring after all was nice. For better or for worse Lenny are Sheldon's family by choice after all with Penny acting as a surrogate sister and now Leonard also declaring him to be his brother. It's a lovely theme for how far their friendship has come.

Of course whether or not one would find the way of how that argument with Amy went funny or fitting is a question of personal taste. If that happened in any other episode I'd be a bit more puzzled but for an anniversary like this I see it as fitting nod to the characters' history. Like vonmar I see this scene as symbolic for what might come sooner or later with Lenny needing to learn to take a step back and let Amy be a supportive partner to Sheldon.

9 hours ago, camelliayao said:

And that long, warm bathroom conversation between Sheldon and Penny didn't help much, did it? Sheldon was still panic and uptset when he came out of the bathroom. It was Amy's words, saying that Sheldon being born was the best gift for her that cheered Sheldon up finally. And the fact Sheldon was like "whatever" to Adam West's appearance while acting all excited because Amy had Stephen Hawking sing him Happy Birthday says a lot too.

Exactly! I love that basically every gesture from Amy makes him light up in this. She compliments his look - he's smiling from ear to ear. She single-handedly turns the party into a ~Sheldon lovefest~ much to his delight. And her special guest easily steals the show from Adam West. Penny and Leonard may be able and overly willing to take care of him but Amy is the one who's truly making him happy here.

[mirs1]

Curly Amy and The Earworm Reverberation outfit for Sheldon...Sounds promising! That doll, though...LOL!

[Ranger Rosa]

21 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

Curly Amy and The Earworm Reverberation outfit for Sheldon...Sounds promising! That doll, though...LOL!

They're becoming experts in pictures with creepy dolls. This one reminds me of Jigsaw.

[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

On 26 February 2016 at 2:31 AM, vonmar said:

I think that's the point...before the full on make-out in Amy's doorway and sex, we found tender Shamy moments that thrilled us.  Now they've spoiled us. They've pulled back and are basically asking are you a true Shamy? If you are, you will still see it.  It's still there, we're just not going to hit you over the head for awhile.  I don't mind.  Happy hunting Shamies.

You can mark me down as someone who is enjoying the shit out of these post-coitus Shamy moments!

I mean look at this casual touching right here:

 

and this mutual love and appreciation over here:

#CutiePies

I've surprised myself by actually not being too bothered about whether they are 'big banging' on the regular or not, it seems like the sort of thing I'd care about  but as long as they are both happy and we're getting sweet moments like the above and Amy wanting to give Sheldon the perfect Birthday then I'm Happy!  

 

On 27 February 2016 at 0:48 PM, brilliantfool said:

I don't need any important/touching moment in Sheldon's life to be ONLY about Amy. I think that would  be unhealthy.

[FortCozyMcBlanket]

1 hour ago, mirs1 said:

Curly Amy and The Earworm Reverberation outfit for Sheldon...Sounds promising! That doll, though...LOL!

he's her #mcm  

[GnuHopper]

Dang, Jim looks like he's plotting to kill Batman in this image!

 

[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

From http://mayim-fangirl.tumblr.com

<3 these little nuggets  

[phantagrae]

I was not at all bothered by Penny being the one to go in and talk to Sheldon.  As someone mentioned, because the issue had to do with his feelings about his sister and all that, it makes sense that the person to help him get over it was his surrogate sister, not his girlfriend, since it wasn't a romantic issue, or even a maturity issue, and not necessarily a job for his "brother".  Although any of the three of them could have helped him in one way or another, in this case, it was a job for his "sister".

I think there was a nice balance of the relationships between Sheldon/Amy, Sheldon/Leonard and Sheldon/Penny.   there's nothing wrong with him having strong connections--of different types--with each of them.

I really enjoyed this episode and I loved the surprise of Stephen Hawking on the laptop.

 

[brilliantfool]

11 hours ago, FortCozyMcBlanket said:

he's her #mcm  

I saw it right before sleep yesterday... I couldn't sleep for an hour after that!

[kelliluvtbbt]

what's an "mcm" 

[Kathy2611]

2 minutes ago, kelliluvtbbt said:

what's an "mcm" 

Man crush Monday 

[kelliluvtbbt]

3 minutes ago, Kathy2611 said:

Man crush Monday 

interesting! thanks

[mphs95]

On 2/28/2016 at 6:21 PM, camelliayao said:

On 2/28/2016 at 0:15 AM, Thyanic <3 said:

I completely agree!!

It wasn't the hug itself what bothered me, Sheldon can hug whomever he wants, he's free to do it. But  I couldn't imagine how i would feel if my boyfriend's best friend (who is my friend as well) took away from me the opportunity to comfort him, Penny went to talk to sheldon over amy's desire (and right) to do it, she didn't care about it, she didn't ask if Amy was "ok" with that, Penny just decided that she was the right (perfect) person and did it; Amy is Sheldon's girlfriend she was there in front of penny worried about her boyfriend, then where is Amy's place in sheldon's life, in his hard times?,  what would it happen if Sheldon decides to stay in the bathroom with penny by his side?? amy had stayed outside with all the party, guests, food, cake, awaiting for his boyfriend and his female best friend while they have a heart to heart conversation in the bathroom? Penny and Leonard have known sheldon for a long time (as leonard said) but that seems to me that they think amy is not good enough for sheldon not even to comfort him or help him to face his painful experiences from childhood.. c'mon!! Amy deserves the chance to try it, to prove how much sympathetic, understandable and helpful can be with the person she loves, she actually had proved it so many times...moments like this are the reason why sheldon is so attached to leonard and penny and so much that he can't imagine his life out of that apartment with other people around him... and for what i see this is not gonna change.. JMO..

 

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Yes to this.

Also I think it's a little out of chracter for Leonard because usually he's quite happy when Amy can take Sheldon off his hands.

Knowing someone longer doesn't necessarily mean knowing someone better. Otherwise Sheldon's siblings should comfort him lol. The very reason that Sheldon and Amy become a couple is that they're soul mates. They understand each other. Sheldon had a mental breakdown after the first time they "broke up". No body else had that much influence on Sheldon's life before. If it was Leonard/Penny/Howard/Raj who "broke up" with Sheldon after knowing him for only three months, would Sheldon feel upset? No, he probably wouldn't even notice.

And that long, warm bathroom conversation between Sheldon and Penny didn't help much, did it? Sheldon was still panic and uptset when he came out of the bathroom. It was Amy's words, saying that Sheldon being born was the best gift for her that cheered Sheldon up finally. And the fact Sheldon was like "whatever" to Adam West's appearance while acting all excited because Amy had Stephen Hawking sing him Happy Birthday says a lot too.

Amy understands Sheldon. She knows what to say to make Sheldon happy. So does time really matter? Yes she only knows him for five and a half years, so what? She can pick the exact words to make him happy every time. She's the only one who's able to teach Sheldon to drive. She can tell he's drunk by a missing question mark. I guess the additional three years doesn't help that much, huh, Penny.

What I'm trying to say is that "I should comfort Sheldon because I know him for a longer time" argument is ridiculous and is OOC for Leonard. And I can't believe Amy can't think of anything else other than "I've seen him naked". Where is the smart Amy we know?

I'm about to say my theory again and I know people don't like it. But I do think the whole Leonard/Amy conflict was there just to create an opportunity for the following Sheldon/Penny scene. Otherwise there's no way they would have this weird argument. The writers want to bring back some happy memories of the first three seasons. The same with the hug. (If I remember correctly, 211 with the Shenny hug has the second highest rating on IMDB out of all TBBT episodes)

 

I still stand by my opinion that the reason Lenny has not moved out is more on Lenny, actually more Leonard than Sheldon. While the Lamy argument was weird, it's not totally OOC to me. I think subconsciously Leonard likes being needed by Sheldon like that bc of how he grew up. I wouldn't go as far as saying he's jealous of Amy's place with Sheldon, but the tide is shifting slowly and I do think Lenny will be lost momentarily when they are on their own and not concentrating on Sheldon and his neurosis.

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On 2/28/2016 at 6:37 PM, Esteben Feynman said:

I would like to weigh in. I was a little bothered by the hug and the moment where Penny went and talked to Sheldon instead of Amy but I believe it was for a bigger purpose. I believe that it had to be Penny so Sheldon could forgive his "sister" for all the mean things that she did to him as a child. With Penny being the catalyst for his sister. With him being able to move past it, he is growing up and becoming an adult. I'll admit it's a little tedious on how slow the writers are making it, in real life it'd be shorter than this. With him growing up he will be able to appreciate Amy more and will allow himself to be close to her, as close as he is to Penny. I think we'll see a living arrangement change toward the end of this season. If not, then they will go until season 12, but I hope they end after season 11. End the show on top. Just my thoughts. You can continue about your day now. Lol. [emoji4]

 

My wish is for BBT to go out on top. Either end at 11 or do what my other fave show Bones is doing, having their 12th season this fall as an abbreviated one, where they still kick ass with the possibility of future stuff a la XF.

For those who think that's stupid, if the f****** Brady Bunch and Gilligan's Island can do reunions, so can BBT. Just a note to CL that if this happens no last min drama, please.[emoji4]

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16 hours ago, phantagrae said:

I was not at all bothered by Penny being the one to go in and talk to Sheldon.  As someone mentioned, because the issue had to do with his feelings about his sister and all that, it makes sense that the person to help him get over it was his surrogate sister, not his girlfriend, since it wasn't a romantic issue, or even a maturity issue, and not necessarily a job for his "brother".  Although any of the three of them could have helped him in one way or another, in this case, it was a job for his "sister".

I think there was a nice balance of the relationships between Sheldon/Amy, Sheldon/Leonard and Sheldon/Penny.  No matter what some people may think, there's nothing wrong with him having strong connections--of different types--with each of them.

I really enjoyed this episode and I loved the surprise of Stephen Hawking on the laptop.

 

 

Exactly what I was thinking. Thank you.

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Edited March 1, 2016 by mphs95

[FortCozyMcBlanket]

16 hours ago, GnuHopper said:

Dang, Jim looks like he's plotting to kill Batman in this image!

 

Nah, that's this one: 

[Radar]

Happy taping day, everyone!

Absolutely no idea what to expect today, so please surprise me, writers! And make it a perfect surprise like Lenny moving to 4B, Amy moving to 4A, Sheldon proposing, Amy accepting, Shamy setting a wedding date, Shamy planning the wedding, Shamy marrying, Shamy going on their honeymoon... Come on, that's not too much to ask for in 19 mimutes, is it?? I mean I didn't even mention coitus (because it's implied of course)! 

[kimbee73]

1 hour ago, Radar said:

Happy taping day, everyone!

Absolutely no idea what to expect today, so please surprise me, writers! And make it a perfect surprise like Lenny moving to 4B, Amy moving to 4A, Sheldon proposing, Amy accepting, Shamy setting a wedding date, Shamy planning the wedding, Shamy marrying, Shamy going on their honeymoon... Come on, that's not too much to ask for in 19 mimutes, is it?? I mean I didn't even mention coitus (because it's implied of course)! 

Nah that's not too much to ask....LOL....although I do like the way you think.

Happy Taping Day!!!!

[chipmunk1]

Hello! I've been a lurker here for a long time, and I finally decided to join as a member.

I'm a Shamy shipper and this season has been a real rollercoaster, some of the break-up episodes are still hard to watch (the scene where Sheldon and Amy meet in the hallway in 'The Perspiration Implementation' is heart-breaking). 'Earworm' got me on cloud nine and I love this Shamy 2.0, but there's something that's been bothering me about the 200th episode. It's somewhat related to the Shenny issue and I guess some of you will be groaning and thinking '¡Not again!', but I really need to get it off my chest.

First of all I think that, at this point, it's been made very clear that there's nothing between Sheldon and Penny beyond friendship. She is like a sister to him, Leonard is like his brother, and I'm glad that he has that deep connection in his life now. I think it was brilliantfool who said that it would be unhealthy if every touching moment was about Amy, and I wholeheartedly agree.

What bothers me of the 200th episode is that Sheldon and Penny's interactions are filled with a sense of closeness and warmth, whereas he doesn't even touch Amy. Yes, I love it when she fixes his tie (mirroring Leonard doing so in Prom), but he doesn't make even the smallest loving gesture. I'm not talking about ravishing kisses and displays of unbridled passion (though those would have been nice ), but I would have loved to see him caress Amy's cheek while looking at her with a warm smile, for example, or press a small kiss on her forehead, or even take her hand.

For me there was a big contrast between the hug with Penny and this lack of physical contact with Amy (it's her who touches him when she's fixing his tie), and I felt a little bit unsettled. Sheldon didn't touch her either in the previous episode (correct me if I'm wrong), and they even cut out that little cute moment when he pats the empty chair next to him so that she comes sit there. I don't know how to convey in a better way how I feel, sorry if I don't make any sense.

In any case, both of them seem to be in the same page and happy with their relationship, and that's what really matters to me.