Ship Zone [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 9

[kimbee73]

23 minutes ago, chipmunk1 said:

 

Hello! I've been a lurker here for a long time, and I finally decided to join as a member.

I'm a Shamy shipper and this season has been a real rollercoaster, some of the break-up episodes are still hard to watch (the scene where Sheldon and Amy meet in the hallway in 'The Perspiration Implementation' is heart-breaking). 'Earworm' got me on cloud nine and I love this Shamy 2.0, but there's something that's been bothering me about the 200th episode. It's somewhat related to the Shenny issue and I guess some of you will be groaning and thinking '¡Not again!', but I really need to get it off my chest.

First of all I think that, at this point, it's been made very clear that there's nothing between Sheldon and Penny beyond friendship. She is like a sister to him, Leonard is like his brother, and I'm glad that he has that deep connection in his life now. I think it was brilliantfool who said that it would be unhealthy if every touching moment was about Amy, and I wholeheartedly agree.

What bothers me of the 200th episode is that Sheldon and Penny's interactions are filled with a sense of closeness and warmth, whereas he doesn't even touch Amy. Yes, I love it when she fixes his tie (mirroring Leonard doing so in Prom), but he doesn't make even the smallest loving gesture. I'm not talking about ravishing kisses and displays of unbridled passion (though those would have been nice ), but I would have loved to see him caress Amy's cheek while looking at her with a warm smile, for example, or press a small kiss on her forehead, or even take her hand.

For me there was a big contrast between the hug with Penny and this lack of physical contact with Amy (it's her who touches him when she's fixing his tie), and I felt a little bit unsettled. Sheldon didn't touch her either in the previous episode (correct me if I'm wrong), and they even cut out that little cute moment when he pats the empty chair next to him so that she comes sit there. I don't know how to convey in a better way how I feel, sorry if I don't make any sense.

In any case, both of them seem to be in the same page and happy with their relationship, and that's what really matters to me.

I must say this is very well put. The Shenny moments were there and most of us accept them but I agree, I kind of wondered after watching #200 again why they couldn't be holding hands in the hall as they were waiting. Why wasn't there a kiss on Valentine's Day. I love the little gestures too, like the tie and the winks but I really wish there was just a tiny bit more.

I was not at all upset at the Shenny moment because as much as people want to say it looked intimate, his words are always more meaning to me then the way he looks. I hug close friends both male and female in that way. He said they were irritating but still took it because Penny was going to do it either way so he might as well accept it.

Little gestures like you said, a kiss on the forehead, handholding, is that so hard, writers? Anyone?

[Radar]

4 minutes ago, kimbee73 said:

I must say this is very well put. The Shenny moments were there and most of us accept them but I agree, I kind of wondered after watching #200 again why they couldn't be holding hands in the hall as they were waiting. Why wasn't there a kiss on Valentine's Day. I love the little gestures too, like the tie and the winks but I really wish there was just a tiny bit more.

I was not at all upset at the Shenny moment because as much as people want to say it looked intimate, his words are always more meaning to me then the way he looks. I hug close friends both male and female in that way. He said they were irritating but still took it because Penny was going to do it either way so he might as well accept it.

Little gestures like you said, a kiss on the forehead, handholding, is that so hard, writers? Anyone?

Yep, I said it before, I really expected a surprise tag scene with a sweet Shamy moment to round it up. The end was so sudden and somehow it felt incomplete. But that's really my only complaint...would have loved that one final Shamy moment to make it perfect.

CHIPMUNK1, KIMBEE73: Let's hope we'll get some of these sweet little gestures tonight! 

[joyceraye]

On ‎28‎/‎02‎/‎2016 at 2:44 AM, vonmar said:

To me, at the end of the day it was not the words, but how significant that banter between Leonard and Amy was.  Leonard, ready to do what he has always done as part of Sheldon's past and Amy trying to stake her claim on their future.

Excellent point. I hadn't seen that. We know Sheldon has helped Amy to have a bath before now so seeing her without pants ( even if they meant knickers and not trousers )  isn't anything new, quite aside from the events of Star Wars Night which Leonard knows about now.

 

[Esteben Feynman]

It hit me today as I was watching 7X21. The writers of this show remind me a lot of the writers of LOST. They have no idea where they're going with the show but they write it in such a way that it seems to the viewers that they do. lol. And like LOST, they'll eventually get to the desired outcome but have no idea how they got there. That's my 2 cents. =)

[chipmunk1]

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10 minutes ago, Radar said:

Yep, I said it before, I really expected a surprise tag scene with a sweet Shamy moment to round it up. The end was so sudden and somehow it felt incomplete. But that's really my only complaint...would have loved that one final Shamy moment to make it perfect.

 

I expected a surprise tag too! You know that photo Mayim twitted, the one were she was wearing something blue? (ok, I'll try to post it here, let's see if I can manage)

 

The colour reminded me of the Star Trek costume she wore when she was trying to increase Sheldon's feelings for her. When he said 'You owe me big time' in the celebration episode, I thought maybe there would be a cute surprise tag where he made her go with him to some convention (my secret wish was that he'd ask her to wear the costume in the bedroom, but I didn't want to give free rein to my unruly imagination)

[2L344]

51 minutes ago, chipmunk1 said:

 

Hello! I've been a lurker here for a long time, and I finally decided to join as a member.

I'm a Shamy shipper and this season has been a real rollercoaster, some of the break-up episodes are still hard to watch (the scene where Sheldon and Amy meet in the hallway in 'The Perspiration Implementation' is heart-breaking). 'Earworm' got me on cloud nine and I love this Shamy 2.0, but there's something that's been bothering me about the 200th episode. It's somewhat related to the Shenny issue and I guess some of you will be groaning and thinking '¡Not again!', but I really need to get it off my chest.

First of all I think that, at this point, it's been made very clear that there's nothing between Sheldon and Penny beyond friendship. She is like a sister to him, Leonard is like his brother, and I'm glad that he has that deep connection in his life now. I think it was brilliantfool who said that it would be unhealthy if every touching moment was about Amy, and I wholeheartedly agree.

What bothers me of the 200th episode is that Sheldon and Penny's interactions are filled with a sense of closeness and warmth, whereas he doesn't even touch Amy. Yes, I love it when she fixes his tie (mirroring Leonard doing so in Prom), but he doesn't make even the smallest loving gesture. I'm not talking about ravishing kisses and displays of unbridled passion (though those would have been nice ), but I would have loved to see him caress Amy's cheek while looking at her with a warm smile, for example, or press a small kiss on her forehead, or even take her hand.

For me there was a big contrast between the hug with Penny and this lack of physical contact with Amy (it's her who touches him when she's fixing his tie), and I felt a little bit unsettled. Sheldon didn't touch her either in the previous episode (correct me if I'm wrong), and they even cut out that little cute moment when he pats the empty chair next to him so that she comes sit there. I don't know how to convey in a better way how I feel, sorry if I don't make any sense.

In any case, both of them seem to be in the same page and happy with their relationship, and that's what really matters to me.

I just don't think Sheldon is there yet. He's still growing and getting used to things. I would settle for him paying her unsolicited compliments at this point, and I mentioned in my post about this episode that there were missed opportunities for him to do so with Amy. The hug with Penny was totally on Penny, she wanted the hug and gave him one. Sheldon returned it with a half-hearted complaint, which has been his character forever, but again it was Penny who initiated it. Had Amy done so Sheldon would've returned it too. 

The writers are definitely plodding along slowly with respects to an outward display of affection when it comes to Sheldon, for their own reasons whatever they might be. Hopefully we'll get there by the end of the season. For now I think we have to be content that Shamy seem pretty darned happy with one another, and I'll take THAT over the first 9 episodes of this season!

[S.L Farrell]

Happy Taping Day everyone!

[joyceraye]

12 minutes ago, kimbee73 said:

I must say this is very well put. The Shenny moments were there and most of us accept them but I agree, I kind of wondered after watching #200 again why they couldn't be holding hands in the hall as they were waiting. Why wasn't there a kiss on Valentine's Day. I love the little gestures too, like the tie and the winks but I really wish there was just a tiny bit more.

I was not at all upset at the Shenny moment because as much as people want to say it looked intimate, his words are always more meaning to me then the way he looks. I hug close friends both male and female in that way. He said they were irritating but still took it because Penny was going to do it either way so he might as well accept it.

Little gestures like you said, a kiss on the forehead, handholding, is that so hard, writers? Anyone?

I was a bit unsettled by the way he asked her if she was having a stroke. I heard neither humour nor concern. It reminded me of the way he used to talk down to her. So did the way he said he would aim for her car if he jumped from the building. What with the lack of gestures, I don't like the way this old Sheldon is leaking through here and there.

 

[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

It's. Tuesday. 

....

TAPING DAY TUESDAY!!!!

I am The_Excite! 

Some of this would be nice:

 

But...  given the lab based spoilers we've had so far I predict Science based episode and very little on the relationships front 

[xjax]

I expect nothing on relationships tonight...pls writers....surprise me      (better to low yr expectation works great for me)...

 

 

[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

4 minutes ago, xjax said:

I expect nothing on relationships tonight...pls writers....surprise me      (better to low yr expectation works great for me)...

It looks like they are doing something with the guys in the lab so I doubt there will be time for the 'Ships tonight!

I'm hoping for a funny all girls plot if the guys are busy in the lab  

[vonmar]

I need to know about the creepy doll that Mayim is holding in the IG picture she took with Jim yesterday.  Part of the episode or just to be silly in the picture?

[mirs1]

20 minutes ago, vonmar said:

I need to know about the creepy doll that Mayim is holding in the IG picture she took with Jim yesterday.  Part of the episode or just to be silly in the picture?

Last time she made this kind of photo the doll was in the show but not involved in her plot; more precisely it turned out to be a "real" baby in the actual episode, which doesn't seem the case here. For sure, if Sheldon sees a doll like that I will be scared to death...a nightmare maybe?

Edited March 1, 2016 by mirs1

[vonmar]

1 minute ago, mirs1 said:

Last time she made this kind of photo the doll was in the show but not involved in her plot, even if it tuned out to be a "real" baby in the actual episode, which doesn't seem the case here. For sure, if Sheldon sees a doll like that I will be scared to death...a nightmare maybe?

It looks like a ventriloquist's dummy....kind of thing that Howard might own?

[April]

2 hours ago, 2L344 said:

I just don't think Sheldon is there yet. He's still growing and getting used to things. I would settle for him paying her unsolicited compliments at this point, and I mentioned in my post about this episode that there were missed opportunities for him to do so with Amy. The hug with Penny was totally on Penny, she wanted the hug and gave him one. Sheldon returned it with a half-hearted complaint, which has been his character forever, but again it was Penny who initiated it. Had Amy done so Sheldon would've returned it too. 

The writers are definitely plodding along slowly with respects to an outward display of affection when it comes to Sheldon, for their own reasons whatever they might be. Hopefully we'll get there by the end of the season. For now I think we have to be content that Shamy seem pretty darned happy with one another, and I'll take THAT over the first 9 episodes of this season!

I agree. It's the good old "Two steps forward, one step back!" dance. For now I'm content that even though some bad old habits may creep into the dialogue overall they made a tangible step forward, thank goodness for that. Like with the 200th of course I would have also loved and preferred if Sheldon was equally physically affectionate in some way. But I guess for now I'm just glad that there is this level of casual domestic intimacy (for lack of a better description) with Amy fixing his tie. Not too long ago the poor girl was afraid to touch him at all or when she did there was a lot of awkwardness in her cautious movements as if she was afraid to upset him or something. At least that seems to be gone now and there's a bit of normalcy in their physical interactions - even though there are still not that many of those on screen.

I can only repeat that I dearly hope the writers become a bit braver here. It's really not that much of a big deal all things considered - Sheldon's character won't dissolve into a puddle of feels all of a sudden if he dares to show a bit of affection towards Amy (though we as fans might, haha). I think it can be done without derailing the character cause with so many things when it comes to Sheldon's growth the essence of all that has always been there and just needs to be brought to the forefront.

2 hours ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said:

But...  given the lab based spoilers we've had so far I predict Science based episode and very little on the relationships front 

Yeah, I also expect nothing. Maybe they'll stand next to each other in a scene?? lol

Anyway, Happy Taping Day!! See y'all tomorrow (my time zone) for the TR. Hope it'll be at least a fun one. <3

[2L344]

18 minutes ago, April said:

I agree. It's the good old "Two steps forward, one step back!" dance. For now I'm content that even though some bad old habits may creep into the dialogue overall they made a tangible step forward, thank goodness for that. Like with the 200th of course I would have also loved and preferred if Sheldon was equally physically affectionate in some way. But I guess for now I'm just glad that there is this level of casual domestic intimacy (for lack of a better description) with Amy fixing his tie. Not too long ago the poor girl was afraid to touch him at all or when she did there was a lot of awkwardness in her cautious movements as if she was afraid to upset him or something. At least that seems to be gone now and there's a bit of normalcy in their physical interactions - even though there are still not that many of those on screen.

I can only repeat that I dearly hope the writers become a bit braver here. It's really not that much of a big deal all things considered - Sheldon's character won't dissolve into a puddle of feels all of a sudden if he dares to show a bit of affection towards Amy (though we as fans might, haha). I think it can be done without derailing the character cause with so many things when it comes to Sheldon's growth the essence of all that has always been there and just needs to be brought to the forefront.

Yeah, I also expect nothing. Maybe they'll stand next to each other in a scene?? lol

Anyway, Happy Taping Day!! See y'all tomorrow (my time zone) for the TR. Hope it'll be at least a fun one. <3

Absolutely! We all have different degrees as to what we want to see out of both of them, whether it's small physical gestures, full blown sex every night (no thank you), or in my case just some thoughtfulness on Sheldon's part. Hey dufus, your woman got gussied up and did her hair and put together your birthday party, how about a "I must say Amy, you look extra pretty tonight" or a "I'm not a fan of these things as you know, but I really DO appreciate the gesture"....

If what you professed at Amy's front door not long ago was true Sheldon, and that you finally understand what Amy is in your life, then it's time to step up and show it a little more often. While I love how loose you get when you're drunk, I don't think you need a drink to show her that the little things mean something to you! And since Sheldon has professed Amys importance to him, had sex with her for cryin out loud, it is NOW in his character, writers, that he should be a little more caring and thoughtful. It won't be out of character to do the little things...

I don't expect him to serenade Amy at her bedroom window every Friday night, or send her roses just because, or greet her with a twenty minute lip lock session every time they get together, but how 'bout a little something more than what we had pre break up....I'd like a nickname or two now too please.

Can we do this writers? please? Thanks a bunch!

Edited March 1, 2016 by 2L344

[stardustmelody]

 

Seeing Amy in Sheldon's apartment....looking promising!

[jenafan]

On ‎2‎/‎26‎/‎2016 at 9:42 AM, shamour said:

That's exactly what I was thinking, that didn't fit at all, really strange. I wish he hadn't hugged her back and looked so comfortable, because I loved what he was saying. I only want him to look that comfortable when he's hugging Amy!

I think what Sheldon finds irritating about hugging Penny now is that he can no longer deny that he enjoys physical affection now.   The way he grabbed her showed how comfortable he is and just how close he has gotten to her.     As Leonard called Sheldon his brother, Sheldon and Penny see each other like brother and sister.

Sheldon didn't initiate the hug.   Penny did, but he is a lot less resistant in reciprocating than he used to be.    It's not romantic.   It's deep affection for a dear friend.   

I just wish Amy had gotten a different kind of hug, especially after she gave him such a wonderful compliment instead of just an "Oh, Amy, that was lovely!"    Perhaps she did after the party.   Yes... I'll go with that.

[2L344]

19 minutes ago, jenafan said:

I think what Sheldon finds irritating about hugging Penny now is that he can no longer deny that he enjoys physical affection now.   The way he grabbed her showed how comfortable he is and just how close he has gotten to her.     As Leonard called Sheldon his brother, Sheldon and Penny see each other like brother and sister.

Sheldon didn't initiate the hug.   Penny did, but he is a lot less resistant in reciprocating than he used to be.    It's not romantic.   It's deep affection for a dear friend.   

I just wish Amy had gotten a different kind of hug, especially after she gave him such a wonderful compliment instead of just an "Oh, Amy, that was lovely!"    Perhaps she did after the party.   Yes... I'll go with that.

i agree. i think a few of us just want to see him start making that step of paying  unsolicited compliments and physical gestures that SHOW he appreciates Amy in his life. I guess paying lip service to it is better than nothing, but since there was such a long and ugly break up that ended with such an over the top reconciliation I think we want and expect a change in some things (lets face it, a change in Sheldons behavior).

I get the writers are tip toeing through change and are trying to keep a lot of the old Sheldon in him, but in my opinion I think its fair to see a definitive change in his behavior towards Amy. We have seen small glimpses of it in the way he defended Amy to Meemaw (after prodding from Lenny), and coitus, FWF and drunk Sheldon was fun but im not sure if he was shown to be flirty with Amy. 

There ARE some scenes where we can see the difference, but we shippers tend to see the silver lining in the minutia of scenes sometimes. As for the 200th we can attribute Sheldon caving to the party as an example of a change in Sheldon's attitude and allowing Amy to influence his decision making. We could also say that his appreciation of Amy's toast is anothet example of warm and loving Sheldon.

But why not have Sheldon give Amy a hug? Was it also too much to have Sheldon thank Amy for the party? When they were alone in 4B could he not have taken that opportunity in private to say how pretty Amy looked that night, after she remarked about how good HE looked in that suit?

The writers are being careful to plot the "new" Sheldon's steps through these changes I guess. For now I will trust that things will progress in its own time, but I would be lying if I didnt say I wish they'd pick up the pace!

Edited March 2, 2016 by 2L344

[notchinc]

Nope, the hug was live not pretaped. 

[joyceraye]

9 hours ago, vonmar said:

It looks like a ventriloquist's dummy....kind of thing that Howard might own?

It might be one of the things Sheldon has saved in his storeroom.

[April]

Morning everyone! I've been to the chat for the first time in foreverrrr and omg what a ride! hahaha As I'm typing this there hasn't been a comprehensible TR yet so a quick summary of the Shamy plot, thanks to Shamydawson (thank you!! <3). Apparently we always get a bag of goodies when we expect nothing. I'm not sure if I got the beginning so please fill in the missing parts if anyone remembers them.

So apparently Sheldon's laptop died and he and Amy get a new one Amy gets him a new one. However, he can't just throw the old one away. After a bit of back and forth with Amy he discloses a big secret to her: He has a storage room somewhere in which he hoards all the stuff he's ever owned right down to useless stuff like old toothbrushes and golf balls, apparently. They drive to the storage and when he shows it to her he's worried that she might think less of him cause he realises that this isn't normal. Amy reassures him that she doesn't and shares that she also keeps some weird stuff like a tissue from her first brain dissection. She suggests that maybe he could start to get rid of the garbage one bit at a time and he starts by throwing a golf ball in the trash (but then later puts it right back when she isn't looking). Back at 4A they have tea time (!!) and talk about how they're closer to each other and glad that they can confine in each other and all that. And because the writers are terrible teases, Sheldon is all like "well it's still a few hours til my bed time so maybe we could..." (flirty look and lip bite and everything) and Amy's responding with something like "what do you have in mind?" and... cut to Sheldon and his new laptop in bed - skyping with Amy. lol

Anyway, my two cents:

- I can't even count the times how often we talked about how we wanted Sheldon to disclose very private things to Amy and it looks like we get them here! And they even get a few wonderful moments of just talking. OMG this is exciting me so much!!! :D

- Sheldon is still worried about what Amy might think of him which has been a bit of a working theory for me on why he's still so reserved in some aspects. I hope that this episode will be another step towards him having an easier time opening up to Amy. How could he not? She's supportive of him and wants to help him. And in their talk over some tea he seems to realise that.

- TEA TIME WITH SHAMY!!!! <3

- Schrödinger's sex life strikes again. God dammit writers! But more than ever it's obvious that they're toying with us here. What a blatant bait and switch! They love the teases and keeping it ambiguous - possibly building to something more in a few episodes??

This sounds like a great Shamy episode so I'm really looking forward to this. <3

(I think there's more information about the other plot with the rest of the gang in the general thread.)

Edited March 2, 2016 by April
added/corrected information to the summary

[shamour]

Thank you so much April! Do you know the title of the ep?

[April]

2 minutes ago, shamour said:

Thank you so much April! Do you know the title of the ep?

The Solder Excursion Diversion, I think. Someone else please confirm this?? Not quite sure If I remember "excursion" correctly.

[shamydawson]

10 minutes ago, April said:

Morning everyone! I've been to the chat for the first time in foreverrrr and omg what a ride! hahaha As I'm typing this there hasn't been a comprehensible TR yet so a quick summary of the Shamy plot, thanks to Shamydawson (thank you!! <3). Apparently we always get a bag of goodies when we expect nothing. I'm not sure if I got the beginning so please fill in the missing parts if anyone remembers them.

So apparently Sheldon's laptop died and he and he and Amy get a new one. However, he can't just throw the old one away. After a bit of back and forth with Amy he discloses a big secret to her: He has a storage room somewhere in which he hoards all the stuff he's ever owned right down to useless stuff like old toothbrushes and golf balls, apparently. They drive to the storage and when he shows it to her he's worried that she might think less of him cause he realises that this isn't normal. Amy reassures him that she doesn't and shares that she also keeps some weird stuff like a tissue from her first brain dissection. She suggests that maybe he could start to get rid of the garbage one bit at a time and he starts by throwing a golf ball in the trash (but then later puts it right back when she isn't looking). Back at 4A they have tea time (!!) and talk about how they're closer to each other and glad that they can confine in each other and all that. And because the writers are terrible teases, Sheldon is all like "well it's still a few hours til my bed time so maybe we could..." (flirty look and lip bite and everything) and Amy's responding with something like "what do you have in mind?" and... cut to Sheldon and his new laptop in bed - skyping with Amy. lol

Anyway, my two cents:

- I can't even count the times how often we talked about how we wanted Sheldon to disclose very private things to Amy and it looks like we get them here! And they even get a few wonderful moments of just talking. OMG this is exciting me so much!!! :D

- Sheldon is still worried about what Amy might think of him which has been a bit of a working theory for me on why he's still so reserved in some aspects. I hope that this episode will be another step towards him having an easier time opening up to Amy. How could he not? She's supportive of him and wants to help him. And in their talk over some tea he seems to realise that.

- TEA TIME WITH SHAMY!!!! <3

- Schrödinger's sex life strikes again. God dammit writers! But more than ever it's obvious that they're toying with us here. What a blatant bait and switch! They love the teases and keeping it ambiguous - possibly building to something more in a few episodes??

This sounds like a great Shamy episode so I'm really looking forward to this. <3

(I think there's more information about the other plot with the rest of the gang in the general thread.)

I also love how that they're at the storage room and they're sitting next to each other on the table like 2 lil kids in love. It's so simple but yet ahhhh it's to cute