[Spoilers] Discussion Topic: Season 9

[Nogravitasatall]

I respect your opinion and that is possible. But I am not saying that there is no possibility that a break up will result in something good in the end. I just think that the way to lead to that-off again/on again-is unnecessary and unfunny. It doesn't fit in the show anymore, in my opinion, and the way it played up was out of character with no build up or a foreshadowing.

Not that it's  consolation but at least they didn't destroy the moral foundation of the character you like.Leonard fell, much further than anyone had before, because they wanted a big dip in the rollercoaster. He was in a committed relationship and he made a very poor choice. LUCKILY Penny seems to have forgiven him. But he had always been worthy and they rubbed a lot of the gloss off him. Maybe it was worth it for story purpose, but it was harsh. Sheldon and Amy are still in essence unchanged. Except one is hole-ier than she was before

[RudyG]

Not that it's  consolation but at least they didn't destroy the moral foundation of the character you like.Leonard fell, much further than anyone had before, because they wanted a big dip in the rollercoaster. He was in a committed relationship and he made a very poor choice. LUCKILY Penny seems to have forgiven him. But he had always been worthy and they rubbed a lot of the gloss off him. Maybe it was worth it for story purpose, but it was harsh. Sheldon and Amy are still in essence unchanged. Except one is hole-ier than she was before

Amy could go back to the pet store, and pick up Giuseppe. That would put another hole in Sheldon too even the score. 

[djsurrey]

Not that it's  consolation but at least they didn't destroy the moral foundation of the character you like.Leonard fell, much further than anyone had before, because they wanted a big dip in the rollercoaster. He was in a committed relationship and he made a very poor choice. LUCKILY Penny seems to have forgiven him. But he had always been worthy and they rubbed a lot of the gloss off him. Maybe it was worth it for story purpose, but it was harsh. Sheldon and Amy are still in essence unchanged. Except one is hole-ier than she was before

It would seem that Penny sees Leonard no different than before. Apparently she was fine with a bachelor party despite the fact he is not a bachelor and despite the kiss on the boat.

[Chrismo]

Last season the Lenny fans (me included) complained the writers were not writing Lenny correctly and a few Shamy fans told us not to complain because the writers were telling their story and just enjoy it. I'm enjoying most of the tp so far and I'm sure Shamy will be back but let's enjoy the writers story Sent from my XT1056 using Tapatalk

I think it was more than a few. payback is a _itch.

[Kev0821]

I thought I would share Kaley's Instagram photo, which features a nod to Amy's "cookies" in the third episode! Thanks to everyone who wrote a taping report! SEPTEMBER 21st CANNOT GET HERE SOON ENOUGH!

[meka3000]

All of a sudden, Sheldon breaks in with the “buddy you’re a boy make a big noise, playin’ in the street gonna make a big man someday….” part, singing it in a high pitched voice to the end. The guys just look at him and he says sometimes his eidetic memory can be a curse. 

Oh god, now I want October 5th to get here sooner, because I can easily picture Jim Parsons having a field day with that delivery.

[loriparis80]

Thanks Batman!!! I think enjoying yourself as a fan first and foremost is the most important thing. It sounds like you had an amazing night.

[Chiany]

I think it was more than a few. payback is a _itch.

[rachelshamyfan]

I wanna watch this episode just for Sheldon singing "we will rock you"

Am bonkers about Queen and have all their albums

[Chiany]

I wanna watch this episode just for Sheldon singing "we will rock you"

Am bonkers about Queen and have all their albums

I think ppl who follow you on IG know that

[rachelshamyfan]

I think ppl who follow you on IG know that

 

[Mislav]

I think it was more than a few. payback is a _itch.

It wasn't more than a few, and you complain almost any time somebody writes something negative about Lenny, so that isn't anything new.

 

And in your book Penny is married to a cheater, since you've admitted to considering what Leonard had done on the boat to be cheating, none of their friends were at the ceremony and the viewers didn't even get to see their wedding. Good fun enjoying the Lenny storyline.

SNAP is a bitch.

[koops]

By that logic they may as well break Lenny up and drag it for the rest of the series...

Look, your comment "because they can" is ridiculous. As well as we know they can write Leonard and Penny off the show. Would you still be so indifferent?

It looks like you are just taking a dig at Shamy as usual.

The on/off again thing hadn't been a part of the show since season five and the show had moved in a completely different and more mature direction. 

If you think that coitus/engagement/wedding aren't interesting storylines, you are saying that Lenny shouldn't even exist in the first place.

You have confessed to considering Leonard kissing another woman to be cheating, and you don't want Lenny to break up over that, but you think that Shamy should stay broken up?

So much hypocrisy and straw grasping.

I don't post much in this thread but I stumbled upon this and YES! THANK YOU, especially about the bold part.

That's part of my main beef with the situation. I have been praising the show left right and center in the past three+ years for this because, even though I might have had problems with some parts of it, they were the only show out there that had managed to keep the story going and interesting with three couples in committed and long term relationships. That takes a lot of effort and maturity because it's much easier to create drama and break couples up than to have to work out how to keep things interesting with solid couples. On/off/on-again crap is stuff of teen shows and romcoms. For the record, although Shamy is my pairing and of course what's happening with them is making me want to quit the show, I wouldn't have been happy with them splitting up any of the couples for that same reason: it's trite, unimaginative and pointless. Even Lenny with their cheating issue, I wouldn't have wanted them to break up over it because that would have been unbelievably trite: pull out a random girl from 2 years ago just as an excuse to split them up. I am personally not happy about how the wedding went down and how the cheating thing was resolved, but I wanted to see them work through that together, not split up again. The only couple I'd be fine with splitting is Emily and Raj because in that case there's a clear point in the story to be made about Raj only sticking with her out of fear.

I also find it very unimaginative to think that the only thing to do with a couple if sex, marriage and babies or break them up and cause drama. Especially in the case of Shamy, they have a lot of fun stuff going on or they wouldn't have lasted five years without sex, drama and jealousy. That's what made them stand out. Not to mention we have already been there with two couples on this show and now we are doing it a third time. Really? 3 out of 3? You cannot come up with anything better? I honestly don't understand how one cannot see how contrived this whole thing is. Especially in the ninth year.

[5Mississippis]

It wasn't more than a few, and you complain almost any time somebody writes something negative about Lenny, so that isn't anything new.

 

And in your book Penny is married to a cheater, since you've admitted to considering what Leonard had done on the boat to be cheating, none of their friends were at the ceremony and the viewers didn't even get to see their wedding. Good fun enjoying the Lenny storyline.

SNAP is a bitch.

It wasn't more than a few [ -- SNIP -- ]

Yes. I think that there were several of us last season who complained voluably about the Season 8 Lenny neglect, myself included. If you are like me, Leonard and Lenny is the reason I got hooked into the show in the first place and they are the pairing I want to watch. In Season 8, there were seven shows in a row without any substantive Lenny and when they were together, they didn't act like an engaged, happy couple. Speaking only for myself, by my counting, there were only five shows in twenty-four that had any worthwhile Lenny and, with The Graduation Transmission being the exception, they were 'off'. Something wasn't quite right. There was no wedding talk and the wonderful, warm, tender sexuality that has defined the Lenny pairing from the start was completely absent. In comparison, as I remember reading all the happy comments, seemingly the Shamy had an absolutely wonderful Season 8, except for the very last show.

And in your book Penny is married to a cheater, since you've admitted to considering what Leonard had done on the boat to be cheating

Yes. They wrote Leonard to have that spectacular fall from grace. I still fully believe that was very OOC for the character that I came to know and love. Don't know why TPTB felt that was necessary to include that but if Penny can forgive him, so can I.

 none of their friends were at the ceremony and the viewers didn't even get to see their wedding. Good fun enjoying the Lenny storyline.

Yes.The long awaited wedding ceremony 'seems' very ugly from the TR and it 'feels' that we Lenny fans have been given a resounding kick to the balls. But believe it or not, until I see it, I am reserving any judgement. I hope it plays out better than it sounds. Right now, comparing to the Lenny neglect were given in Season 8, I'm just glad that the Lenny are actually being written.

 

[Luna18]

I don't post much in this thread but I stumbled upon this and YES! THANK YOU, especially about the bold part.

That's part of my main beef with the situation. I have been praising the show left right and center in the past three+ years for this because, even though I might have had problems with some parts of it, they were the only show out there that had managed to keep the story going and interesting with three couples in committed and long term relationships. That takes a lot of effort and maturity because it's much easier to create drama and break couples up than to have to work out how to keep things interesting with solid couples. On/off/on-again crap is stuff of teen shows and romcoms. For the record, although Shamy is my pairing and of course what's happening with them is making me want to quit the show, I wouldn't have been happy with them splitting up any of the couples for that same reason: it's trite, unimaginative and pointless. Even Lenny with their cheating issue, I wouldn't have wanted them to break up over it because that would have been unbelievably trite: pull out a random girl from 2 years ago just as an excuse to split them up. I am personally not happy about how the wedding went down and how the cheating thing was resolved, but I wanted to see them work through that together, not split up again. The only couple I'd be fine with splitting is Emily and Raj because in that case there's a clear point in the story to be made about Raj only sticking with her out of fear.

I also find it very unimaginative to think that the only thing to do with a couple if sex, marriage and babies or break them up and cause drama. Especially in the case of Shamy, they have a lot of fun stuff going on or they wouldn't have lasted five years without sex, drama and jealousy. That's what made them stand out. Not to mention we have already been there with two couples on this show and now we are doing it a third time. Really? 3 out of 3? You cannot come up with anything better? I honestly don't understand how one cannot see how contrived this whole thing is. Especially in the ninth year.

I agree with is Koops. This might be wishful thinking but when Shamy get back to speaking terms, I would like Sheldon to whip up the RA and say that as the termination of it has not been signed, they were never officially broken up. I just hate thinking of them as exes...

Sigh. Why can't this whole thing be over yet?!!!

[Chiany]

I agree with is Koops. This might be wishful thinking but when Shamy get back to speaking terms, I would like Sheldon to whip up the RA and say that as the termination of it has not been signed, they were never officially broken up. I just hate thinking of them as exes...

Sigh. Why can't this whole thing be over yet?!!!

Don't worry, while I hate this situation too, I just keep reminding me they still are the most stable couple of the show.

[Luna18]

Don't worry, while I hate this situation too, I just keep reminding me they still are the most stable couple of the show.

They really are in a way. I think with ring and the way the situation is being talked about on the show that it won't last too much longer now. 

[Tonstar17]

Don't worry, while I hate this situation too, I just keep reminding me they still are the most stable couple of the show.

Really. You do know they are broken up. Right. The most stable relationship on the show are Raj and Cinnamon. Get it right :) Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk

[Chiany]

Really. You do know they are broken up. Right. The most stable relationship on the show are Raj and Cinnamon. Get it right

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You're right, nothing beats Rajamon

And yes even broken up.

Edited August 28, 2015 by Chiany

[Tonstar17]

You're right, nothing beats Rajamon

And yes even broken up.

How can they be stable if they are broken up? I don't get it. Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk

[veejay]

Well, Cinnamon was betrayed by a red fox!

[Mislav]

How can they be stable if they are broken up? I don't get it. Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk

Probably because there was no contrived cheating involved.

[Tonstar17]

Well, Cinnamon was betrayed by a red fox!

You seem to forget Raj likes to have two on the go at the same time. Just like some posters claim leonard once a cheat always. Once a casanova always a casanova. :) Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk

[Tonstar17]

Probably because there was no contrived cheating involved.

Are you going to leave the cheating thing alone. If you are going to think like the then Sheldon is a jerk manipulative, selfish. do you want me to carry on. So with your logic once all those things he will always be all those things. He kissed a girl. It not the crime of the century. Get over it. Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk

[Mislav]

Are you going to leave the cheating thing alone. If you are going to think like the then Sheldon is a jerk manipulative, selfish. do you want me to carry on. So with your logic once all those things he will always be all those things. He kissed a girl. It not the crime of the century. Get over it. Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk

You can carry on as long as you'd like. You've blown your top already, it's quite funny. I may as well say the same thing about Leonard and it would hold the same value since you haven't provided any points or examples to back up your statement about Sheldon.

 

I think that it is very interesting how you get heated up over somebody else mentioning the kiss when you and the rest of the Lenny shippers were the first to call out Leonard on it and complain about it when it was first revealed.