[Spoilers] Discussion Topic: Season 9

[Tensor]

the ratings have nothing to with the writing. Ratings have gone down in.all.network.tv. So regardless whos the plot, ratings are subjective (i can hear ten now heh). Look im not g the towel in. If they got married a couple seasons ago. But now they pretty much are already married. I just think some Lenny fans are overstating  the importance of the wedding. 

Yep, you can hear me.  Skull, for the first time in it's run, TBBT's ratings dropped more than the overall decline in TV viewing.  For the eight weeks it was on Monday, it averaged a 5.5 demo.  For the rest of the year, on Thursday, it averaged a 4.4.  The last eight weeks of the season it only broke a 4.0 demo once.   Last year, it only fell below a 4.0, in the last eight weeks, once.   As for the cause, there could be a variety of reasons.     It didn't have the highest scripted show demo for the first time since 2012. I'm really interested in how it goes this year.

Edited August 8, 2015 by Tensor

[3ku11]

we had this discussions while you were on hiatus. The ratings are down for network TV but TBBT numbers are even worse than those numbers. tensor had the numbers. are you considering them married since Sheldon is allowing Leonard to live with Penny one day a week?

no im considering them married based on their relationship and domestic behaviour the past five seasons. Why does everything involving Lenny come bk to.Sheldon. The idea havent bn living together 3 years is obsurd.

Yep, you can here me.  Skull, for the first time in it's run, TBBT's ratings dropped more than the overall decline in TV viewing.  For the eight weeks it was on Monday, it averaged a 5.5 demo.  For the rest of the year, on Thursday, it averaged a 4.4.  The last eight weeks of the season it only broke a 4.0 demo once.   Last year, it only fell below a 4.0, in the last eight weeks, once.   As for the cause, there could be a variety of reasons.     It didn't have the highest scripted show demo for the first time since 2012. I'm really interested in how it goes this year.

oh ok im man enough to admit i was wrong haha. Although saying its the writing, is still.speculation. Not #1 scripted show since 2012 wow did not know that. Maybe writers well pick up their game this season, to counter the declining ratings. 

[Chrismo]

no im considering them married based on their relationship and domestic behaviour the past five seasons. Why does everything involving Lenny come bk to.Sheldon. The idea havent bn living together 3 years is obsurd.

Because in my world "married couples" actually live together. Also most everything involving Lenny's relationship has involved Sheldon. Wasn't Sheldon the one that brought up the subject of Lenny getting married in the finale?

 

[Ranger Rosa]

So Amy loves a challenge? Well she wants what Lenny have, mutual understanding. So.at some point Sheldon is going to embrace change. Other then.that kiss, that led no where. And the ily, that turned out just to be words. Sheldon needs to.step with his actions. I.dont know at this point, if things dont change im.growinh.thin of Shamy, but thats me. 

She's with him. She loves him. He is a hard person; so she loves this particullar challenge.
It's like that song says: loving you is cherry pie.

[Chrismo]

She's with him. She loves him. He is a hard person; so she loves this particullar challenge.It's like that song says: loving you is cherry pie.

I think Amy is questioning if the challenge is really worth it. I think she could find someone else. Sheldon on the other hand...

Edited August 8, 2015 by Chrismo

[3ku11]

I think Amy is questioning if the challenge is really worth. I think she could find someone else. Sheldon on the other hand...

Amy is his only chance at happiness, he should be going all out. But its alas Sheldon. 

Because in my world "married couples" actually live together. Also most everything involving Lenny's relationship has involved Sheldon. Wasn't Sheldon the one that brought up the subject of Lenny getting married in the finale?

 

Well Lenny pretty much live together. Sleep in bed, eat dinner together. Sheldon pressed for a wedding date, but Lenny decided all on their own to get married in vegas. 

Edited August 8, 2015 by 3ku11

[Ranger Rosa]

I think Amy is questioning if the challenge is really worth. I think she could find someone else. Sheldon on the other hand...

That's the point! I said that at other thread and someone gave me a big response; apperantly the person didn't understood what I meant or I didn't expressed myself clearly, I don't know.
This break came right now because for her they had a good development in 5 years, but there's still barriers to be broken: the physical stuff, the emotional...
See, if it was just the lack of sexual intimacy that bothers her, than she wouldn't have a big reason to take a break.
Try to think how would be dating a girl or a boy like Sheldon. It would be overwhelming, and most of people would drop the towel very quickly. She, althrought, didn't. She is a warrior by hold on until now. 
Then I said that, for me, the relationship was futureless. Well, they can communicate very effectly, but if still with this great communication with this great hard person (who is Sheldon) things don't work the way she wants, what's the point? Is there any future for this relationship? This challenge worth it or she is just wasting herself into all this thing? Then she started this break. He doesn't see anything wrong at their relationship, just the opposite: he think it's going too fast.

They need to get to the same pace, because if they don't, then someone will always want something more from the other. Sheldon needs to understand what she wants and try to make it become true. She does things for him all the time, some of them very remarkable (like make him be junior conductor at toy store when only kids can be, she made the store open an exception), etc. It's time to give back.

[3ku11]

Amy started out as the female Sheldon, very robotic. I guess Amy can evolve so can Sheldon. But who knows if Sheldon well ever be the bf Amy wants, even by shows end. 

I'm not counting into "stable" just break up, but twists, arguments, changes and things like that. I think I define stable more like "for a long time without bigger change." But I'm not that good in English, so I should explain myself better I guess. 

well to be fair Lenny only.ever broke up once in s3. And got bk together in s5. And been stable ever since. So they are not as on and off as ppl think, hence why i dont agree with ross and rachel.ref. 

[3ku11]

To be honest i dont see an issue if Amy goes on.a harmless date with.Stuart. Shes done it before. Penny did, years ago, of course she was using him as a subsitute for Leonard. With Stuart, hes a nice guy. May make Sheldon step up again lol. 

[rachelshamyfan]

Amy and Stuart coitus? Wouldn't that be against their relationship agreement?

not coitus but maybe Amy's upset and Stuart comforts her with a hug but it's misinterpreted when Sheldon arrives and gets the wrong idea

Something like that 

Edited August 8, 2015 by rachelshamyfan

[The Mushroom Log]

To be honest i dont see an issue if Amy goes on.a harmless date with.Stuart. Shes done it before. Penny did, years ago, of course she was using him as a subsitute for Leonard. With Stuart, hes a nice guy. May make Sheldon step up again lol. 

I find it entertaining how in this regard Stuart is essentially a plot device to the writers, used as a catalyst for development for both Lenny and Shamy. I never realised that until your post  

I don't see Amy going on another date with Stuart. Been there, done that. If the writers do decide to actually bring in a third party for Amy to date (which I don't think will actually happen) the most likely candidate seems to be Kripke.

I still think Amy's "not ruling it out" will occur in a conversation with Penny and/or Bernadette. One of them might ask her if she's considered dating other people or something like that. I don't think Amy will actually act upon it. Especially if she hasn't actually broken up with Sheldon.

[3ku11]

not coitus but maybe Amy's upset and Stuart comforts her with a hug but it's misinterpreted when Sheldon arrives and gets the wrong idea

Something like that 

Well Sheldon to quote Beyonce ""You.should of put a ring on it"

[mirs1]

If we go by the cast instagram pictures then I think Lenny have a separate plot while the rest are at the wolowitz house

I think Amy and Sheldon will go there looking for comfort and Amy gets talking with Stuart who somehow manages to hit on her and Sheldon sees it 

 

I could be totally wrong of course

I don't know about Stuart hitting on Amy...It could be that everyone but Lenny (which of course will be in Vegas) go to Wolowitz house to complain about their own stuff (Amy about Sheldon, Sheldon about Amy, Raj about Emily...) and Stuart, who lives there, jumps in all conversations saying  stupid\funny things, with H&B more and more exausted by him living at their home. I don't know if after it the gang go to Vegas for Lenny wedding, but I think it would be nice that, if the wedding is celebrated, it is celebrated with all their friends there...

On another topic, I noticed there were no pictures of the actors with Laura Spencer. I was wondering if she will be in the premiere too...

[3ku11]

I actually think its possible they may do the wedding in vegas, all their friends show up.to celebrate. Look i kno since the pilot theirs been dream of a massive wedding. Penny pregnent with the smart kids, smiling Leonard. But it aint a fairytale anymore. I kinda feel they are more concerned about their marrage now, and i think thats nice. So while vegas wedding would be smaller, not neccessarily anymore bigger then waiting. I wouls to see them as a married couple from now on. And at this point, i dont think they could  meet expectations when it coms to a massive wedding. 

Edited August 8, 2015 by 3ku11

[Shamyyes]

I do not believe Lenny will marry in Vegas. Tptb will want that huge of an event for a sweeps episode. Same with any major Shamy events. Premier will be fun but I expect no big events to happen. I believe even though it is season 9 events will still move slowly.  I just hope the rating hold because I would still like a season 11.  

[3ku11]

Why bother setting up a finalie with Lenny marrying in vegas if they are not planning on them.actually eloping? I get a plot device to drag out the wedding. But i dont know the whole thing feels like artificial, pointless angst to keep the viewers invested in Lenny. They may as well marry in.sweeps, but hearing hiring a minister for the ep, i.dont know what to to think when it comes to this show anymore. Used to be alot more simple lol. I guess Leonard is stalling by telling Penny he technically cheated. But why now, why wait two years? I find it hard to beleive he doesent want to get married, hes the one who proposed and imagined smart and beautiful babies from the get go lol. I mean its not like he forgot Penny married Zac, or has he? Selective thinking much. If thats the reason hes sabotaging the wedding. So many unawnswered questions. All seems stupid to me, marry them now or not why does it matter anymore shows dragged it out to.the point its lost its allure.

Edited August 8, 2015 by 3ku11

[The Mushroom Log]

I do not believe Lenny will marry in Vegas. Tptb will want that huge of an event for a sweeps episode. Same with any major Shamy events. Premier will be fun but I expect no big events to happen. I believe even though it is season 9 events will still move slowly.  I just hope the rating hold because I would still like a season 11.  

I expect nothing big to happen at least until November sweeps. 

That doesn't mean I don't want things to happen earlier though...

[3ku11]

I dont know why they havent had Lenny moved in together by now. Having a new scenario of Sheldon alone, and interviewing prospective roommates would be hilarous and refreshing. 

Edited August 8, 2015 by 3ku11

[The Mushroom Log]

I dont know why they havent had Lenny moved in together by now. Having a new scenario of Sheldon alone, and interviewing prospective roommates would be hilarous and refreshing. 

I know, right?!

[3ku11]

I know, right?!

Then eventually Amy could take Leonards room! I like Amy tho so i want this for her haha. 

Edited August 8, 2015 by 3ku11

[The Mushroom Log]

Then eventually Amy could take Leonards room! I like Amy tho so i want this for her haha. 

I like the way you think.

[Shamyyes]

Like we have all said/ thought before, the big events are their cash cows. I too, feel as if the dragging out of these events may be cause for loss of interest ( mho).

I too, would like  to see progression in both relationships knowing that there is comedy galore hidden there!  

 

I am happy for season 9 to begin. 

Praying the rating do not continue downward. Waiting for Tuesday. All have a great weekend!

[mirs1]

Yea...If Lenny don't get married in Vegas, they should at least decide to move together as soon as they return home...this will allow some progression of the story, without selling too soon a big event; then, they could decide to make the wedding happen on the 200th episode (which for me should be the right choice, the more appropriate with the premises of the show) or whatever, but something has to happen in the early episodes to create some positive change!

[rachelshamyfan]

When Leonard eventually moves out, the only person that I believe that would move in would be Amy, hopefully by the time that happens the shamy will be back on track from their pause/timeout/break 

[MTBigBangTheoryFan]

Why bother setting up a finalie with Lenny marrying in vegas if they are not planning on them.actually eloping? I get a plot device to drag out the wedding. But i dont know the whole thing feels like artificial, pointless angst to keep the viewers invested in Lenny. They may as well marry in.sweeps, but hearing hiring a minister for the ep, i.dont know what to to think when it comes to this show anymore. Used to be alot more simple lol. I guess Leonard is stalling by telling Penny he technically cheated. But why now, why wait two years? I find it hard to beleive he doesent want to get married, hes the one who proposed and imagined smart and beautiful babies from the get go lol. I mean its not like he forgot Penny married Zac, or has he? Selective thinking much. If thats the reason hes sabotaging the wedding. So many unawnswered questions. All seems stupid to me, marry them now or not why does it matter anymore shows dragged it out to.the point its lost its allure.

Same reason Monica and Chandler planned to get married in Vegas at the end of Season 5 but never did. Instead they moved I. Together And again Leonard didn't cheat on Penny. I thought we decided that? Yes maybe it disloyalty/dishonesty but that it. But I don't think they will marry in Vegas. We seen this storylines many times in sitcoms where a couple decide to elope in Vegas but when they are about to get married one of them get cold feet and it doesn't happen. It very predictable. The Kiss is just a another way to prolong it. I am still going with a Season Finale wedding especially if Season 10 the last Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk