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I dont know why they havent had Lenny moved in together by now. Having a new scenario of Sheldon alone, and interviewing prospective roommates would be hilarous and refreshing. 

I could see that happening this season and would be great to see. Then after failed attempts Amy moves in around Feb Sweeps. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Together And again Leonard didn't cheat on Penny. I thought we decided that? Yes maybe it disloyalty/dishonesty but that it. 

No, we didn't decide it, we're still split on it.  My point of view, he cheated, then lied about it through omission for almost two years. 

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Same reason Monica and Chandler planned to get married in Vegas at the end of Season 5 but never did. Instead they moved I. Together And again Leonard didn't cheat on Penny. I thought we decided that? Yes maybe it disloyalty/dishonesty but that it. But I don't think they will marry in Vegas. We seen this storylines many times in sitcoms where a couple decide to elope in Vegas but when they are about to get married one of them get cold feet and it doesn't happen. It very predictable. The Kiss is just a another way to prolong it. I am still going with a Season Finale wedding especially if Season 10 the last Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Its predictability is the exact reason I hope they don't do it that way.  I'm not sure if I want them to get married right now, but I want TBBT to be more original than doing the same plot every other sit-com has done.

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Its predictability is the exact reason I hope they don't do it that way.  I'm not sure if I want them to get married right now, but I want TBBT to be more original than doing the same plot every other sit-com has done.

I think the BBT writers usually do a pretty good job at going against expectations.

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Its predictability is the exact reason I hope they don't do it that way.  I'm not sure if I want them to get married right now, but I want TBBT to be more original than doing the same plot every other sit-com has done.

They work hard to be unconventional but since this is not something like "Men in Black" the characters are human and the options are limited.

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I like the way you think.

You know what, TML? For a long time I thought that having Amy move into Leonard's room was a stupid idea, but the more I think of it, the better the idea seems. If that is the case, Sheldon would still have his care taker, driver, personal assistant, slave, but it would be Amy instead of Leonard. Therefore the "status quo" of the Shamy relationship would be kept, since they wouldn't be obliged to have physical interaction until they are ready,  and everybody could hang out at 4 A , and Leonard could finally and officially move in with Penny, or Lenny would be free to look for another place all of their own.

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No, we didn't decide it, we're still split on it.  My point of view, he cheated, then lied about it through omission for almost two years. 

It happened.  He cheated and kept quiet. The question is what do they do about now.  It was a somewhat toxic plot twist, because it opens a can of worms. It asks the audience to consider if there are degrees of offence or has he absolutely offended. They are counting on all the elements of the offence to distinguish it away to nothing. The egregious part of this is that they spent so much of Leonard's "brand" value. 

If they can deliver a meaningful redemption, maybe it will be worth it. If they walk past it then it was a tawdry trick. It's not funny, that's for sure.

I do think he will be an excellent husband, despite this. I'd call it one of those events where all the holes in the Swiss cheese line up - like many other disasters.... unless they decide to throw him further into this pit and make it a defining characteristic. But where is the fun in that.

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It happened.  He cheated and kept quiet. The question is what do they do about now.  It was a somewhat toxic plot twist, because it opens a can of worms. It asks the audience to consider if there are degrees of offence or has he absolutely offended. They are counting on all the elements of the offence to distinguish it away to nothing. The egregious part of this is that they spent so much of Leonard's "brand" value. 

If they can deliver a meaningful redemption, maybe it will be worth it. If they walk past it then it was a tawdry trick. It's not funny, that's for sure.

I do think he will be an excellent husband, despite this. I'd call it one of those events where all the holes in the Swiss cheese line up - like many other disasters.... unless they decide to throw him further into this pit and make it a defining characteristic. But where is the fun in that.

Just like you pointed out, Nograv, TPTB spent 7 full seasons and 23 shows building up the 'Leonard brand' and then in the final moments of Season Hate they decide to drop their pants and toilet that wonderful brand and flush it down the crapper like last night's meal? 

Riiiiight. I am still reeling with disbelief. 

Because they kept the details of the kiss ambiguous enough, I am quite likely hoping against hope, that we get more disclosure concerning the event and it is revealed that it wasn't so much cheating as the woman instigated a kiss with a sea-sick Leonard, which he stopped. I'm holding off on 'the cheater' label until we hear/are given more information. But agree about the two year silence concerning what I am hoping will turn out a non-event 'she kissed me, I stopped it' sort of thing. 

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Do you remember in 7'19 when Leonard asked Penny if she was seeing other men when they first started dating?  Then Penny not asking Leonard, maybe it was then that he might of confessed to the kiss if Penny hadn't said to him

"Come on, really?"

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Just like you pointed out, Nograv, TPTB spent 7 full seasons and 23 shows building up the 'Leonard brand' and then in the final moments of Season Hate they decide to drop their pants and toilet that wonderful brand and flush it down the crapper like last night's meal? 

Riiiiight. I am still reeling with disbelief. 

Because they kept the details of the kiss ambiguous enough, I am quite likely hoping against hope, that we get more disclosure concerning the event and it is revealed that it wasn't so much cheating as the woman instigated a kiss with a sea-sick Leonard, which he stopped. I'm holding off on 'the cheater' label until we hear/are given more information. But agree about the two year silence concerning what I am hoping will turn out a non-event 'she kissed me, I stopped it' sort of thing. 

I'm on the "moment of human weakness" team. Even if he got into it for some moments. If it was a solitary, unplanned, ambushed style event, as long as the pants stayed on, hands stayed on the outside and no one's feet left the floor I'd forgive him. If I were Penny I'd put him on notice and withdraw comforts for quite sometime. Also I'd expect jewellery - and none of that recycled crap. His wallet is going to have to open wide. Also I'd make him suffer at random times for the rest of his life. I would not blow the last 8 years. But there would be consequences. I wouldn't marry him off the back of this - I'd be sick after hearing it. AND If I were Leonard I'd take all the retribution and be grateful for the forgiveness. And I'd never mention; Kurt, Mike, the older guy in the hotel, the brothers at school, the creepy doctor, Cole, Zack, Penny's other trip to Vegas and Raj. Because they don't compare. And neither of them should ever tell their friends what happened. Especially not the least filtered man they know.

But he still did what he did.

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I'm on the "moment of human weakness" team. Even if he got into it for some moments. If it was a solitary, unplanned, ambushed style event, as long as the pants stayed on, hands stayed on the outside and no one's feet left the floor I'd forgive him. If I were Penny I'd put him on notice and withdraw comforts for quite sometime. Also I'd expect jewellery - and none of that recycled crap. His wallet is going to have to open wide. Also I'd make him suffer at random times for the rest of his life. I would not blow the last 8 years. But there would be consequences. I wouldn't marry him off the back of this - I'd be sick after hearing it. AND If I were Leonard I'd take all the retribution and be grateful for the forgiveness. And I'd never mention; Kurt, Mike, the older guy in the hotel, the brothers at school, the creepy doctor, Cole, Zack, Penny's other trip to Vegas and Raj. Because they don't compare. And neither of them should ever tell their friends what happened. Especially not the least filtered man they know.

But he still did what he did.

Well they wouldent compare. As Lenny werent a couple then. Regardless of not being engaged then. They had been together for two years. Their was a lvl.of trust and understanding, that Leonard has broken. So i want too see Penny make Leonard suffer, to regain her trust, its only fair. And to be fair haha, older guy in hotel? Was that Bernadettes ex? I think he just gave her a lift home, well.thats the story im.sticking to ha. And Cole was a collegue, anyway. I would rather the finalie be Lenny move in together, ilSheldon now alone. Instead of this attempt for Shock Value, and transparently obvious artificial angst to keep viewers interest in tact. Hopefully its resolved soon. 

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I don't think Penny should hold it against him forever as that doesn't make her a better person.  She has every right to be angry now, and I don't think they'll bet married in Vegas.

And Leonard didn't confess in order to sabotage the wedding, but in trying to clear his conscious and have no secrets between them.  The writers setting up the Vegas wedding and then having it not happen does make sense.  It was an impulsive decision on their part and like many such decisions, there were some things they weren't prepared for, including Leonard's confession.

So I think the story will play out the way it should--Penny will be too upset and even if they try to get past it, the joyful mood would have worn off and they'll decide to go back to town.  Maybe they won't bother to tell the others what they were going to do and Sheldon will be caught up in his own issues and maybe won't bring up the Vegas trip.  Or maybe he'll bring it up like he did the sex-proposal and put the unwanted spotlight on L/P's moment.

But as the writers have said that the premiere picks up almost exactly where the finale left off, we're likely to witness the way it plays out for each couple.  We haven't seen Laura Spencer on set yet, so I'm not sure if they'll continue the Rajily moment where it left off, but the others will apparently be dealing with the ongoing issues.

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I.dont care what happens in s9 just 

1. Be uniquley you again bbt, not relying on sitcom tropes 

2. Bring back the Lenny charm of 1-3

3. More Lenny focused plots 

 

 

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I.dont care what happens in s9 just 

1. Be uniquley you again bbt, not relying on sitcom tropes 

2. Bring back the Lenny charm of 1-3

3. More Lenny focused plots 

 

 

While you might get 1 and 3 I don't think 2 is possible. It can't be like it was at the beginning. It never is.

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Yikes. Withdrawing comforts, demanding jewelry and inflicting random suffering:angry:? Breaking up would be merciful compared to this kind of marriage.

LOL. Sounds harsh when you put it that way. No, not all at once and all the time. :) Heheh.

Please note I didn't say "demand" jewellery.  He done her wrong on her wedding eve. I think that was pretty thoughtless.  He could bake her a pie to make her feel better, but a non-recycled bit of jewellery at some point wouldn't hurt to tangibly demonstrate his contrition.  The withdrawal of comforts is likely to be an inclination thing - because how sexy and well timed was his confession - I think it killed the honeymoon mood a bit, don't you?  I know parts of me shrivelled at his egregious misjudgement. And I think his wife can give him a hard time about his stupidity from time to time forever, even after she has forgiven him and they are living happy ever after.  Because really, smart as he is, he was so, so, so stupid to bring it up on the drive out to Vegas. She can keep that one. It was a hugely stupid thing. He should be humble about the size of his brain for all time.

But I'm certainly not saying she should dump his sorry arse. 

Alternatively she just forgives him and lives the rest of her life pretending she never heard what he said and that she was unaffected by it. But if I were him, I'd be falling over backwards to do anything that might possibly make up for screwing up her delightful idea to run to Vegas and commit for forever.

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While you might get 1 and 3 I don't think 2 is possible. It can't be like it was at the beginning. It never is.

Agreed.  Relationships, both real ones and fictional ones, change over time.

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Penny has no reason not to forgive Leonard. He diddnt sleep with anyone, and theirs no other secrets. So she has two options 1. Dump Leonard 2. Forgive and Forget. 2 Well happen. I just hope its quickly resolved, i dont like angst and bbt co existing. 

Agreed.  Relationships, both real ones and fictional ones, change over time.

oh i realize that. People change, relationships change every day. Change is the only constant. Im just reminessing hahah. 

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And I'd never mention; .....the brothers at school,Because they don't compare.

I call BS on that one.  They absolutely DO COMPARE because Penny SLEPT with both of them.  That act of infidelity IS FAR WORSE than what Leonard allegedly did.

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I call BS on that one.  They absolutely DO COMPARE because Penny SLEPT with both of them.  That act of infidelity IS FAR WORSE than what Leonard allegedly did.

lol Penny has a promiscuous past, is that a surprise. She diddnt know Leonard then, so what. Was that highschool come on. Do they need to bring up their past sex history, for some kinda scoreboard no. They are both adults. 

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lol Penny has a promiscuous past, is that a surprise. She diddnt know Leonard then, so what. Was that highschool come on. Do they need to bring up their past sex history, for some kinda scoreboard no. They are both adults. 

No offense but I REALLY hate it when someone uses "it was just highschool" as a reason to whitewash their behavior.  Yes she was an adolescent, but so were MANY other people who didn't do what Penny did.  I'm not saying it's a reason to hold it against her as an adult AS LONG as she learned from her behavior, just that I don't think "it was just highschool" should be used as a catch 22 to excuse all behaviors.

But this is beside the point.  The point is I think "having an affair and sleeping with someone" is worse than "kissing that he put a stop to." and trying to say the former doesn't compare to how bad the later is sounds patently ridiculous IMO.

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No offense but I REALLY hate it when someone uses "it was just highschool" as a reason to whitewash their behavior.  Yes she was an adolescent, but so were MANY other people who didn't do what Penny did.  I'm not saying it's a reason to hold it against her as an adult AS LONG as she learned from her behavior, just that I don't think "it was just highschool" should be used as a catch 22 to excuse all behaviors.

But this is beside the point.  The point is I think "having an affair and sleeping with someone" is worse than "kissing that he put a stop to." and trying to say the former doesn't compare to how bad the later is sounds patently ridiculous IMO.

But she diddnt know Leonard then why does it matter. I see your point sleeping with someone is worser then a kiss. But its not relevant here, just Leonards indescretion. 

Demanding jewellery from your partner because they kissed another woman and kept it a secret for 2 years isn't going to make the anger and hurt go away, who knows even if Leonard would ever of told her

Clearly wasent planning on it. Waited years, if they werent talking about regrets he would of never shown full disclosure. 

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