[Spoilers] Discussion Topic: Season 9

[Tomasina]

4 hours ago, Earnie said:

Yes I agree they say boys want to find a women like their mother to marry but I think in Leonard's case he wants the opposite Leonard could have easily found a women with an advanced education but he was raised in a family with advance education but no emotional support no celebrating birthdays he wanted his future children to have a loving mother

It was started that early in the series they wanted the boys to identify more with the other's mother than their own. So since penny is more like Mary and amy is more like Beverly, it still makes sense from that perspective. 

[Earnie]

23 minutes ago, Tomasina said:

It was started that early in the series they wanted the boys to identify more with the other's mother than their own. So since penny is more like Mary and amy is more like Beverly, it still makes sense from that perspective. 

Yes and Amy is more like Beverly so that explains it Wonder what would have happened if Leonard was raised by Mary and Sheldon by Beverly would their childhood have been happier

[3ku11]

Sheldon would be even more obnoxious then he is now LOL. Thank god that didn't happened. And Leonard would be such a pushover, maybe Penny would of never been interested. As Penny was always looking for that strong guy to look after her. Ironically it was always Leonard, who as often been portrayed as the mackdaddy of the show. I agree Penny is more like Mary then Bev. So Leonard and Sheldon are dating the opposite of their mothers in a way. Leonard always wanted warm and affection, something he never received from his mother. Penny offered that. And of course Leonard offers her no guy can on the show, on every level. And of course Wyatt always referred to Penny as his lil "Slugger". So that may explain her choice in men, and her premiscious past. So in a way the characters who are romantically involved right now, are each others better halfs. Lenny have similar backgrounds with their parents, which is why they are compatible. Despite Leonard being a geek, that is I guess the charm of the show, breaking down socieities conventions and rules.

[brilliantfool]

i hate Leonard's mom! I think she is the only thing in the show i find truly, truly offensive. She is such a bully! 

I agree with everyone who says it would be cool to finally hear Leonard tell her to f off... Actually i would like for him to tell her smth much worse x D

Maybe I come from a too liberal and loving family, but to me a mother who deprives her son of hugs is just a monster!

Even Judy in FRIENDS didn't annoy me that much, i guess because her criticism towards Monica was always somewhat balanced by her love to Ross, so she seemed bipolar and unfair, but not just outright cruel/cold. Or maybe TBBT humor is just more cynical than friends, idk.

 

[3ku11]

Yeah in Friends Judy was almost bipolar. She was distant towards Monica. But shows love towards Ross, and favoured him. But their was no distinction between the two. Even on Two and a half men Evelyn while cold and distant like Bev. Has showed love towards Alan and Charlie, as she loves them but holds them in no regard. I guess to be fair Beverly has only had guest stints. So I guess they have not given time to explain why Bev is so cold towards Leonard. I agree the humor is very cynical compared to Friends. All we know Bev clinically analyses everything. Maybe her parents were like that? I guess her other kids are more succesfull then Leonard. I hated her in S3 Maternal Congruence, when she revealed she's getting divorced from Leonard's father. And his dog died lol. Penny didn't seem to care too, I was like Penny be a girlfriend biatch!! lol, I was pissed at Penny anyway. Shes come on later in the series. But I Think BBT comedy is very cynical. I really want Penny's mother to be played by Lisa Kudrow. And see the contrasting dynmaics between the two.

[Mislav]

On 5. prosinca 2015. 04:57:46, Chiany said:

So Penny is a substistute mother to Leonard? That's gross.

Well, Penny is basically the opposite of his mother and has some traits not consistent with his mother, opposite or otherwise, not sure that he would want that for a mother either...

 

He would probably be more comfortable with someone like Mary. Or an older version of Amy-somebody both caring/understanding (in later seasons) and a scientist.

[3ku11]

Well the fact that he choose Penny who is uniquely her. To.spend the rest of his life with. Kinda infers he doesent see traits in her, that represent or associate with.anyone else, other then Penny. Just like Penny does not with.Leonard, because hes like or unlike her dad.

Why they were attracted to each other can be identified through their corresponding relationships  with their parents, to a certain degree. So clinically Leonard is attracted to Pennys qualities that are opposite to Bev, or similar to Mary. But overall Penny is nothing like Mary. Nor does Leonard desire Mary or an older Amy lol.

 

I think the fact Penny is the only women in his life, whos become one of the "guys" is one of the main reasons Leonard prob loves her. Same why Penny remained  friends with Leonard  when they.were exes, temporary. As Penny referenced in Platonic Permutation. 

Edited December 6, 2015 by 3ku11

[Mislav]

1 hour ago, 3ku11 said:

Well the fact that he choose Penny who is uniquely her. To.spend the rest of his life with. Kinda infers he doesent see traits in her, that represent or associate with.anyone else, other then Penny. Just like Penny does not with.Leonard, because hes like or unlike her dad.

Why they were attracted to each other can be identified through their corresponding relationships  with their parents, to a certain degree. So clinically Leonard is attracted to Pennys qualities that are opposite to Bev, or similar to Mary. But overall Penny is nothing like Mary. Nor does Leonard desire Mary or an older Amy lol.

 

I think the fact Penny is the only women in his life, whos become one of the "guys" is one of the main reasons Leonard prob loves her. Same why Penny remained  friends with Leonard  when they.were exes, temporary. As Penny referenced in Platonic Permutation. 

When I wrote "would be more comfortable with someone like Mary or an older version of Amy", I was talking about a mother figure. Not a romantic relationship.

[brilliantfool]

12 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

Yeah in Friends Judy was almost bipolar. She was distant towards Monica. But shows love towards Ross, and favoured him. But their was no distinction between the two. Even on Two and a half men Evelyn while cold and distant like Bev. Has showed love towards Alan and Charlie, as she loves them but holds them in no regard. I guess to be fair Beverly has only had guest stints. So I guess they have not given time to explain why Bev is so cold towards Leonard. I agree the humor is very cynical compared to Friends. All we know Bev clinically analyses everything. Maybe her parents were like that? I guess her other kids are more succesfull then Leonard. I hated her in S3 Maternal Congruence, when she revealed she's getting divorced from Leonard's father. And his dog died lol. Penny didn't seem to care too, I was like Penny be a girlfriend biatch!! lol, I was pissed at Penny anyway. Shes come on later in the series. But I Think BBT comedy is very cynical. I really want Penny's mother to be played by Lisa Kudrow. And see the contrasting dynmaics between the two.

Yeah Beverly probably has her reasons, i mean to be the way she is she had to have a traumatic childhood herself, anyway i don't think it justifies her behavior in any way! especially since she's a psychiatrist... If she was uneducated i could buy it that she's effed up and she regrets it but she doesn't know how to change, but since she's a psychiatrist, clearly she knows the 'mechanics' of psychology and it's just her willing choice to stay cold and detached the way she is... which pisses me off.
But what pisses me off more than Beverly is how the show kinda makes it normal , and none of Leonard's friends and even Penny yep stand up for him ! well Penny kinda did in S7, but i think she should've done it earlier!

I agree Lisa Kudrow would be so cool for Penny's mom!

[hokie3457]

Are they airing two new episodes on Thursday? Commercials on during the football game seem to be hinting at that? Anyone?

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[Strawberry PopTart Fan]

24 minutes ago, hokie3457 said:

Are the airing two new episodes on Thursday? Commercials on during the football game seem to be hinting at that? Anyone?

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If that's the case,would you consider the first one foreplay?

[3ku11]

I am more a dime and dash person myself haha. So I maybe skipping the new two eps. Doesent sound like my cup of tea.

[djsurrey]

43 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

I am more a dime and dash person myself haha. So I maybe skipping the new two eps. Doesent sound like my cup of tea.

One really can't tell before seeing an episode. At least I can't. 

 

[Chrismo]

4 hours ago, shamyyyy said:

I agree Lisa Kudrow would be so cool for Penny's mom!

I think that shipped sailed when they made that weak attempt at a Lenny wedding. 

 

2 hours ago, hokie3457 said:

 

Are they airing two new episodes on Thursday? Commercials on during the football game seem to be hinting at that? Anyone?

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I think it's just one episode. But they certainly made it obvious they are back together and had sex. I'm not sure what's the point up showing it on Thursday. Maybe they can rerun the Speckerman episode instead.

Edited December 6, 2015 by Chrismo

[phantagrae]

They're airing the next two episodes over two weeks, one on the 10th, and one on the 17th, as far as we've heard.

 

[Chrismo]

2 minutes ago, phantagrae said:

They're airing the next two episodes over two weeks, one on the 10th, and one on the 17th, as far as we've heard.

 

The ad was worded in a way that I can see strawberry's confusion. it also showed Sheldon asking Penny and Bernie about coitus which is the 17th.

[djsurrey]

1 hour ago, phantagrae said:

They're airing the next two episodes over two weeks, one on the 10th, and one on the 17th, as far as we've heard.

 

That is what it says on the forum's posted broadcast schedule.

http://forum.the-big-bang-theory.com/topic/6002-broadcasttaping-schedule-season-9/?do=findComment&comment=434983

[rachelshamyfan]

Tptb basically want maximum exposure for this, so they going all out with publicity

[djsurrey]

I'm so hoping for a fun episode 12.

Also looking forward to getting past episode 11 (although I'm still looking forward to seeing Bob N).

So lets just hope the couples can get past some episodes without major couple drama. I think we have seen enough in season 9 already.

[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

2 hours ago, rachelshamyfan said:

Tptb basically want maximum exposure for this, so they going all out with publicity

I'm not familiar with US advertising for TV shows - Is it normal for them to completely spoil what is going to happen in the previews? 

[April]

8 minutes ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said:

I'm not familiar with US advertising for TV shows - Is it normal for them to completely spoil what is going to happen in the previews? 

They'll use whatever hook will get viewers watching.

[3ku11]

Well shows over here all the time do promos for shows. I am sure they hype the major plot all the time. Some shows do like a mini trailer, and basically give away the entire show or season in a short duration. Personally I understand why TPTB are doing maximum exposure to get publicity for these two episodes. It doesn't mean I like it. I mean outside core fans, Shamy having sex is a milestone in their relationship, but I Cannot take it seriously its a milestone for the show, sorry nah uh. Now of course Sheldon having sex with any female, is an interest. He is the breakout star. SO I know this well garner interest. I guess I am just saying I prefer not to take part in it. It's too centric for my taste when it comes to sitcoms. It's almost like back in School when they were picking teams and no one picked you lol. but always picked that one person every single time its what it feels like. Hopefully after 11 and 12. It can for at least 5 episodes, enough with the relationship driven plots. And actually get back to some fun, fluffy episodes. Enough with the drama. Platonic Permutation was a good move in the right direction, but theirs that Shamy angst in the end. Personally I am happy for people who ship them, even though they are not my taste. But from a fan of the show perspective, I am like Yeah so over Shamy.

[Chrismo]

6 hours ago, rachelshamyfan said:

Tptb basically want maximum exposure for this, so they going all out with publicity

 

3 hours ago, April said:

They'll use whatever hook will get viewers watching.

 

3 hours ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said:

I'm not familiar with US advertising for TV shows - Is it normal for them to completely spoil what is going to happen in the previews? 

Your audience in the US watching football on Sunday's is mostly male. I'm not sure a Shamy ad getting back together and having sex is necessarily going to get more guys to watch possibly less since they know what's going to happen. showing  Lenny in bed IMO would be more effective. just like a viagra ad would be more effective than a tampon ad.

[Chocoholic]

Was on youtube today and came across the flashmob from s8, decided to watch it and then naturally went to watch the first one too. It brought such a huge smile to my face seeing people having so much fun and was thinking how cool it must have been for the audience as well. It wasn't the first time i was watching the videos and as someone who could never attend a taping, ever, I really think they need to do another one asap!!!! Who agrees??

[Chiany]

1 hour ago, Chrismo said:

Your audience in the US watching football on Sunday's is mostly male. I'm not sure a Shamy ad getting back together and having sex is necessarily going to get more guys to watch possibly less since they know what's going to happen. showing  Lenny in bed IMO would be more effective. just like a viagra ad would be more effective than a tampon ad.

Just mention the word Sex and you have the attention of every guy, so it could work.
But they could have teased a bit more I think to draw in even more ppl.