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2 minutes ago, Boonaroma said:

Hey, this is an important discussion relevant to the show.  If Amy ever needs to make breast cookies, she needs to know how many gummy worms to buy in order to make a realistically diverse batch.

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12 minutes ago, No Regrets said:

That couldn't possibly be weirder than the old lady who once sat next to me on a train and randomly told me she was never into anal. 

OMG!  I cannot get any work done, I'm laughing my butt off.    This is so much better than the discussions we've had over the past couple of days.  Off topic or not, I'll take it over the other.

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25 minutes ago, No Regrets said:

That couldn't possibly be weirder than the old lady who once sat next to me on a train and randomly told me she was never into anal. 

That is to funny! ... Awkward!

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5 minutes ago, No Regrets said:

I swear to God. Our conversation started out pretty normal. Then all of a sudden she brings up the affair between Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinski. Then there's silence and then she goes, "Anal...." I stare at her. She goes, "That's in the ass, right?" And she said it so loudly that people started staring at me like, "How could you possibly talk to that innocent old lady about anal sex?" And then she proceeded to tell me she was never into it. I said, "Glad we cleared that up". 

Apologies for the OT. Carry on.

Hilarious!   I'm an open book, but even that is a lot further than I would ever go in a conversation.   Sounds like you handled it pretty well.

I wonder how Sheldon would have handled that?     Dave probably would have found it a delightful discussion.

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3 minutes ago, jenafan said:

Hilarious!   I'm an open book, but even that is a lot further than I would ever go in a conversation.   Sounds like you handled it pretty well.

I wonder how Sheldon would have handled that?     Dave probably would have found it a delightful discussion.

Yeah with a stranger I don't know.. that is pretty out there. Sheldon would be totally clinical about it, and Dave would take notes!

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38 minutes ago, jenafan said:

Did this discussion just fall completely down the rabbit hole?   Perhaps some will discover serendipity and obliquity in the descent and find some way to tie it all back to the show.

Well everyone on the show - whether they are Shamy or Lenny have some type of boob.  So really a discussion of boobs does pertain to TBBT

Now we can't talk about other parts in the nether regions because that could be construed as discriminatory to those who don't have the same.  :fi_lone_ranger:

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3 minutes ago, hokie3457 said:

She sounds like the older lady in the car commercial riding in the back of her son's family vehicle saying inappropriate things in front of her granddaughters!!

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I dont know if I can post this... but its reminds me of this... 

 

PS I might get banned for this one...

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Nogravitasatall said:

Also, it occurred to me to reflect on the twinning thing. Who else do we know was a big plaid fan. Who is now wearing plaid on screen. It's twinning again, only displaced in time. This I think demonstrates the subliminal, underlying, deeply embedded and possibly subconscious acknowledgment by the creatives that they have received their reward from, and are hanging their futures on, one component of their product. They know what's buttering their bread and that awareness pervades even the costume choices. Though there are other arguments, that may involve cultural differences, where plaid is worn by all, this is the argument that tickles me.

When you query as to who else on the show wears a lot of plaid, I think you mean Sheldon. However, other than the plaid suit Penny nixed when shopping with him for his awards ceremony, and that pair of plaid pants he lost to Kurt while trying to recover her TV, I don't recall Sheldon wearing a lot of plaid other than those in his PJ rotation. But perhaps you really mean that she is twinning with Howard, someone else who wears a great deal of plaid on the show? There's always been a Howard/Penny crackship out there, you know, they'd love to latch onto your plaid theory.

Personally, when I start looking at pictures, I realize how much Penny has started wearing plaid shirts as her casual day-to-day wear, when she's not dressed up in her business clothes. She really has a quite enviable wardrobe of plaid attiture; I know I've been covetous of a few of her pink plaid shirts, such as the one she wore in Scavenger Hunt and a few others. At this point in time, Penny should be about 30 IC, and she's also been settled into a long-term relationship and is now married. As she mentioned in the therapist episode, she "used to" wear a lot of tank tops, and knows perfectly well that was a huge draw for Leonard and for other men. (Including her fan base.) She's grown out of it, in part because she's not seeking to attract male attention other than Leonard's anymore. I rather love the fact that she kept her "not appropriate for work" top under her work outfit, and when she came home from the day, turned and only flashed it to Leonard for his personal enjoyment before buttoning her top again. Perhaps some members of the audience would have liked it better if they were cut into what Leonard got to look at, but I think that the overall take-away is for all who enjoy the Lenny pairing is knowing such small, private, flirty moments are actively alive in their married life.

If Sheldon and Penny are "twinning" with the plaid thing....well, just one argument for their brother/sister relationship. Personally, I think that plaid is simply a very common aspects of the American wardrobe, and I also think that it fits in with the overall palette of the show. Plaid is a colorful and joyful pattern, and the show really goes for a very bright and colorful palette to the eye. Anything on TV also requires a certain amount of texture, pattern, and color in order to stand out as it otherwise gets flattened on a 2D screen, and we always want Penny to stand out from the crowd and be shown as the colorful and joyful person that she is.

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I'm not necessarily surprised that I have to clarify this, but it's still exasperating: None of the things I said about Kaley/Penny were things I made up or personally agree with whatsoever. They were two of the most vile examples of things said about her I've seen on the Internet, things which have stayed with me precisely because they are so vile. I chose the most vile ones in order to provoke an emotional reaction to them, to prove that insults like that are offensive and hurtful, and that when made against a fan favorite in particular it will trigger bitter, angry, unconstructive, and divisive arguments in a thread and between fandoms. This was not just due to the Pee Wee Herman comment, but also in memory of a huge fight in this thread awhile back over the comment that Shamy could not be shipped by heterosexual males in part because Amy "dressed like a lesbian." Amy and Sheldon get attacked on the basis of their looks as a bash on the validity of the Shamy ship as a whole frequently, while I've never heard a Shamy shipper bash Leonard and Penny over appearances.

If one did, I assume we'd never hear the last of it, and so I did so to prove a point, and the sheer ferocity of the backlash proves that point with every knicker-twisted post that focuses on offense rather than empathy and understanding that perhaps insults about personal appearances, particularly used to discredit someone else's shipping or favorite character preference, is a really shitty thing to do and should stop.

But, what can I say, I love it when humor bubbles up from the chaos and saves the day. Gummy worm-infused breast cookies indeed; I am still laughing. What have I done. Poor Kaley. Speaking of which, we have to find a cocktail that captures the ridiculousness of an article I saw the other day, called "5 Shady things about Kaley Cuoco," that seemed to be attacking her over her divorce. It suggested that 1) divorcing your husband for being a pain killer addict was "shady," 2) removing all pictures of your husband from Instagram and Twitter before announcing your divorce from him was "shady," and 3) breast implants were so, so "shady," and I don't even remember the other "shady" things that KC was up to but the whole thing was really already on the way downhill from there.

In the absence of eggnog, I'm splashing some rum and Dr. Pepper together and downing a "Shady Kaley" cocktail to get me through the damn day. Cheers. 

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1 hour ago, No Regrets said:

That couldn't possibly be weirder than the old lady who once sat next to me on a train and randomly told me she was never into anal. 

um, thanks. There is a new bar... that I won't be aiming for. LOL

There is being funny and there is being escorted off the platform and into a cell. It's a fine line - that Sheldon never seems to cross, despite his best efforts (see - back to topic).

But i look forward to that being woven into the warp and weft of the show. For sweeps maybe.

Edit: Last thing on plaid - for now.

Lionne, In a quick straw poll of two of my colleagues they don't even know the word plaid, they associate colourful tartan with clowns and they thought of overpriced Burberry. Otherwise it's Scots and school girls. So maybe it is cultural, but I'm more entertained by the Parson's theory.  Also many other shows don't go so hard on it. The clown theory does work for me - but it could be cultural. It could also be fashion forward. But to discuss it sure as heck can't be offensive - just maybe tedious. But it remains pervasive in the show's look.

They have kept the cartoon colour palette they favour and have woven them all together into one fabric, is my latest thought. That might even make sense. But unconscious homage to Sheldon tickles me, if they don't know they are doing it.

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In respect to the plaid shirt debate:

Plaid shirts for women were actually very on point in fashion in 2015, hitting most runways in one way or another.  It was heavily featured in Vogue and on tons of runways in one form or another.  Penny has been shown to dress quite trendy generally, so I think her wearing the plaid shirts made sense.  It was in style.

Now what will 2016 bring?

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27 minutes ago, nibbler747 said:

In respect to the plaid shirt debate:

Plaid shirts for women were actually very on point in fashion in 2015, hitting most runways in one way or another.  It was heavily featured in Vogue and on tons of runways in one form or another.  Penny has been shown to dress quite trendy generally, so I think her wearing the plaid shirts made sense.  It was in style.

Now what will 2016 bring?

Target has an ad campaign specifically focused on plaid.

 

 

 

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On ‎1‎/‎13‎/‎2016 at 9:04 AM, SRAM said:

I may be wrong, Tensor jump in any time, but I think their last contract obligates them to season 11 if TPTB want it.  However a season 12 is a whole new ballgame.  They will make a lot of money this season and season 10, also if there is a season 11, I think they get the same money.  So if there is a season 12, will it be about the money for Johnny and Kaley, I guess it depends on how their careers are going.

This subject reminds me of a trailer I saw for a new cable show where one of the main characters says:. "What is the use of having 'what the f**k' money if you don't say 'What the f**k' every so often".

Completely agree with you. I feel the same way you do about the show. Loved the first 6 seasons, S7 was so/so, hated S8, and with very few exceptions I'm hating S9. If I don't see a marked improvement (and it doesn't look like there will be one) I quitting watching the show at the end of S9. I just don't find it as funny as I once did. I'm clinging hoping that things will get better because of how much I liked S1-S6, but at this point I feel like a battered wife hoping her husband will not beat her anymore because of how good things were before her husband started beating her up. If there is a S12 (which I can only imagine to be absolute shit based on the current trend) I hope Johnny and Kaley ask for 2 million/episode to see if they'll give it to them.

On ‎1‎/‎13‎/‎2016 at 10:51 AM, SRAM said:

I will still watch the show, I find the other comedies on TV lacking in more ways than TBBT.  I may stop watching it at broadcast though and just record it on my DVR for later viewing.  

The diminishing of Leonard and Penny has hurt the soul of the show for me.  I feel TPTB have gone over to the dark side and it is all about money now and the quickest way to make it. They have given up on the original plot of the show and just centered the show on the fans favorite character.  If you think about it, that explains what many perceive as lazy writing, they have centered the show around Sheldon.  It is exactly following the 'Family Matters' technique for making money on TV, more Urkel or in this case Sheldon.

 I don't really expect the situation to change much now from how Leonard and Penny will be handled in the future, based on this, and it really is a shame because there is so much story that still could be told about them.  They have really just got together in marriage, and now they have to make work while each of them matains their identity, the journey is not over.

As I see it it's all about the money now. They have lost all sense of story and the show is very far away from what it once was. That being said I think they'll try to bleed it for every single penny (not Penny) they can.

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You know you guys need to put up a warning when you are going to talk about boobs.  I innocently came home from work, got a soda and sat down to this forum to catch up.  I had just taken a drink when I got to the posts on boobs, I almost choked.  I have been blowing my nose for the last ten minutes to get the soda out.  So please a warning next time, like maybe:

WARNING Boobs discussion ahead!

or something like that for my safety.  Thank You.

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3 minutes ago, SRAM said:

You know you guys need to put up a warning when you are going to talk about boobs.  I innocently came home from work, got a soda and sat down to this forum to catch up.  I had just taken a drink when I got to the posts on boobs, I almost choked.  I have been blowing my nose for the last ten minutes to get the soda out.  So please a warning next time, like maybe:

WARNING Boobs discussion ahead!

or something like that for my safety.  Thank You.

Their was a discussion on boobs? Why was I not notified? 

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