[Spoilers] Discussion Topic: Season 9

[veejay]

1 hour ago, JE7 said:

Your right tank tops and shorts at least for more than sleeping are long gone BUT there are still many ways for Penny to have her flash and sex appeal and still look classy. The new mature Penny could pull of sexy/classy/professional without looking like a tart (the brits are rubbing off on my lol)

Yeah. 

[EvilStewie]

I don't really noticed what she is wearing, probably cause it don't matter she is still hawt. You don't have to dress sexy to be so. For me I was just happy she expressed her dream of acting and how she was good at it. I get the woman has bills to pay, but that WAS her dream and that shouldn't be forgotten. I will be livid, if after all that time, she just gives up on her dream! 

[JE7]

8 minutes ago, EvilStewie said:

I don't really noticed what she is wearing, probably cause it don't matter she is still hawt. You don't have to dress sexy to be so. For me I was just happy she expressed her dream of acting and how she was good at it. I get the woman has bills to pay, but that WAS her dream and that shouldn't be forgotten. I will be livid, if after all that time, she just gives up on her dream! 

But beside I tag scene her acting has always been bad. Serial apeist the scene we saw she wasent good acting wise, the hemmoroid commercial she wasent good, ncis scene cut and serial apeist 2 what we saw again she wasent good. And that's 4 minimaly paying gigs in six years acting for her was a bust. Even the audition kevin smith gave her she "stunk up to the place" She and some fans need to seperate dreams from fantasies

Kaley did a good job of playing a bad actress and besides once in an amatuer stage play Penny was a bad actress

Edited January 16, 2016 by JE7

[EvilStewie]

7 minutes ago, JE7 said:

But beside I tag scene her car ng has always been bad. Serial apeist the scene we saw she wasent good acting wise, the hemmoroid commercial she wasent good, ncis scene cut and serial apeist 2 what we saw again she wasent good. And that 4 minimaly paying gigs in six years acting for her was a bust. Even the audition kevin smith gave her she "stunk up to he place" She and some fans need to seperate dreams from fantasies

Kaley did a good job of playing a bad actress

I think that was the project not her, cause when they went to her play, they all said she was great, even Sheldon! Besides I don't care what you're dream is.. go for it! We have 100ish years to enjoy.. enjoy them!

Edited January 16, 2016 by EvilStewie

[3ku11]

7 minutes ago, JE7 said:

But beside I tag scene her acting has always been bad. Serial apeist the scene we saw she wasent good acting wise, the hemmoroid commercial she wasent good, ncis scene cut and serial apeist 2 what we saw again she wasent good. And that's 4 minimaly paying gigs in six years acting for her was a bust. Even the audition kevin smith gave her she "stunk up to the place" She and some fans need to seperate dreams from fantasies

Kaley did a good job of playing a bad actress and besides once in an amatuer stage play Penny was a bad actress

You say she wasn't good in commercial, ncis etc. Based on what? Know one knows how her performance was specifically. Scenes get cut all the timre for various reasons. Mostly time consumption. Just saying it was never prooven PENNY can't act. One can watch the commercial she was in, in one scene. But she was in it, so have to presume she can act. I mean shes an actor portraying an actor. I'm just saying not once has anyone ever told Penny from what I recall you cant act. The problem was she was type casted the moment she moved to Pasadena.

Edited January 16, 2016 by 3ku11

[JE7]

4 minutes ago, EvilStewie said:

I think that was the project not her, cause when they went to her play, they all said she was great, even Sheldon! Besides I don't care what you're dream is.. go for it! We have 100ish years to enjoy.. enjoy them! 

Hard to enjoy them when your physically working long hours at low pay mooching food and wi-fi

At some point we all have to grow up and leave behind childish and nearly impossible dreams and deal in reality

3 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

You say she wasn't good in commercial, ncis etc. Based on what? Know one knows how her performance was specifically. Scenes get cut all the yonr. For various reasons. Just saying it was never prooven PENNY can't act. One can watch the commercial. But she was in it, so have to presume she can act. I mean shes an actor portraying an actor. I'm just saying not once has anyone ever told Penny from what I recall you cant act. The problem was she was type casted the moment she moved to Pasadena.

I specifically said the scenes we saw from those projects she was bad and she was

[EvilStewie]

6 minutes ago, JE7 said:

Hard to enjoy them when your physically working long hours at low pay mooching food and wi-fi

At some point we all have to grow up and leave behind childish and nearly impossible dreams and deal in reality

...But she did! She was happy! She wouldn't have told the psychiatrist she missed it if she wasn't...

Edited January 16, 2016 by EvilStewie

[JE7]

6 minutes ago, EvilStewie said:

...But she did! She was happy! She would have told the psychiatrist she missed it if she wasn't...

And would ahe still be happy with that life at 30 or 40

I miss life when I was 20 it was fun and carefree and if I had stayed that way I would be an old man with nothing to show for my life

She needs to growup, and that can be hard to do but she's not a kid anymore and we all look back at our youth with Rose colored glasses

Edited January 16, 2016 by JE7

[EvilStewie]

I guess I just don't see it, Jim parson struggled in acting. He didn't get big bang til he was in his thirties. He owed his parents, cause he went to Grad school to help his career.  Look at him now, He could pay them back x10 

Edited January 16, 2016 by EvilStewie

[JE7]

1 minute ago, EvilStewie said:

I guess I just don't see it, Jim parson struggled in acting, he didn't get big bang til he was in his thirties. He owed his parents, cause he went to Grad school to help his career.  Look at him now, He could pay them back x10 now

One in a million break and Penny was never going to be successful TPTB flat out said they didn't want to go there for various reasons

[EvilStewie]

4 minutes ago, JE7 said:

One in a million break and Penny was never going to be successful TPTB flat out said they didn't want to go there for various reasons

Point is don't give up! I just don't think that is the message to send, especially to girls. Sick of seeming them be told that Can't do something, or something isn't logical ..

Edited January 16, 2016 by EvilStewie

[JE7]

14 minutes ago, EvilStewie said:

Point is don't give up! I just don't think that is the message to send, especially to girls. Sick of seeming them be told that Can't do something, or something isn't logical ..

 

True for a attainable goal

I want to dig a hole in my yard to reach china would you encourage me not to give up on my dream of an subterranean elevator to Asia? Or would you try to talk seanse to me

[EvilStewie]

4 minutes ago, JE7 said:

True for a attainable goal

I want to dig a hole in my yard to reach china would you encourage me not to give up on my dream of an subterranean elevator to Asia? Or would you try to talk seanse to me

How do you know if it attainable if you quit before you attain it? I think we are gonna have to agree to disagree with this one. How is being an actress not attainable? 

Edited January 16, 2016 by EvilStewie

[JE7]

5 minutes ago, EvilStewie said:

How do you know if it attainable if you quit before you attain it? I think we are gonna have to agree to disagree with this one. How is being an actress not attainable? 

It isn't for everyone just for the vast majority.

Agree to disagree, so more it be 

[EvilStewie]

9 minutes ago, JE7 said:

It isn't for everyone just for the vast majority.

Agree to disagree, so more it be 

its 100% unattainable to those who quit

[joyceraye]

On ‎11‎/‎01‎/‎2016 at 10:16 PM, Tonstar17 said:

 

 

6 hours ago, SRAM said:

They really threw continuity out the door with this episode, Emily is now sweet and not creepy and doesn't mind Penny treating Raj like eye candy.  I like this new Emily but it is a big change in her character, it is like they are inventing the character before our eyes.

And now even Sheldon can make Emily cry ! When she was the one everybody found scary, Sheldon referred to her as 'Koothrapalli's weird girlfriend' who was going to kill him and bury his body. It seems to me something is going on. That Sheldon persists with his project of apologies isn't surprising as in his head he's got to finish what he started. He's scrupulous about the right thing when he's got a bee in his bonnet and this time it's about something real and worth doing. While they are making Sheldon grow up at a rate of knots but without changing his character, Amy has matured even faster, also keeping her personality.  But  whatever are they doing to Emily ? Rather than a progression it looks like a total reversal. Why ? Has something happened that we're going to find out about ?

[JE7]

9 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

 

And now even Sheldon can make Emily cry ! When she was the one everybody found scary, Sheldon referred to her as 'Koothrapalli's weird girlfriend' who was going to kill him and bury his body. It seems to me something is going on. That Sheldon persists with his project of apologies isn't surprising as in his head he's got to finish what he started. He's scrupulous about the right thing when he's got a bee in his bonnet and this time it's about something real and worth doing. While they are making Sheldon grow up at a rate of knots but without changing his character, Amy has matured even faster, also keeping her personality.  But  whatever are they doing to Emily ? Rather than a progression it looks like a total reversal. Why ? Has something happened that we're going to find out about ?

Or ya know just bad writing lol

[Stephen Hawking]

On 1/12/2016 at 8:49 PM, ATOB said:

Amy and Sheldon jostle as my two favorite characters

It's a close run thing, but Amy's my favorite, with Sheldon a very close second.

Together, as Shamy, they're as near to perfection, as it's possible to get.

On 1/12/2016 at 8:49 PM, ATOB said:

Now they dress her like Bernadette (so she's 'do-able' I guess)

IMO, Amy's always been 'do-able', all the way back to when we first met her, in Lunar Excitation.

Edited January 16, 2016 by Stephen Hawking

[jenafan]

53 minutes ago, EvilStewie said:

its 100% unattainable to those who quit

With all due respect, there are people who spend their lifetime chasing a dream and come out on the end with nothing.   Sometimes it is best to cut your losses and change your goals.    It doesn't mean you don't still dream, only that you faced reality that perhaps you were chasing the wind.    

It happens a lot when people choose family over career.   It doesn't mean that they don't miss what they were doing before, only that family has become more important.   Penny misses acting, but perhaps she sees that the path she has chosen is really in her best interest right now.   If she goes back to acting, perhaps the growth she has developed will help her be better than she was, and she will finally get her chance at a more mature role.

Unfortunately it's not all about what we want, or how good we think we are.   It's all about opportunity, what other people think, popularity, the people you know, and just the deck life gives you. 

[JE7]

4 minutes ago, jenafan said:

With all due respect, there are people who spend their lifetime chasing a dream and come out on the end with nothing.   Sometimes it is best to cut your losses and change your goals.    It doesn't mean you don't still dream, only that you faced reality that perhaps you were chasing the wind.    

It happens a lot when people choose family over career.   It doesn't mean that they don't miss what they were doing before, only that family has become more important.   Penny misses acting, but perhaps she sees that the path she has chosen is really in her best interest right now.   If she goes back to acting, perhaps the growth she has developed will help her be better than she was, and she will finally get her chance at a more mature role.

Unfortunately it's not all about what we want, or how good we think we are.   It's all about opportunity, what other people think, popularity, the people you know, and just the deck life gives you. 

Well said 

[EvilStewie]

2 minutes ago, jenafan said:

With all due respect, there are people who spend their lifetime chasing a dream and come out on the end with nothing.   Sometimes it is best to cut your losses and change your goals.    It doesn't mean you don't still dream, only that you faced reality that perhaps you were chasing the wind.    

 

I think this is one of those things in life where you're background is gonna play a part in how you see the situation. I for one wouldn't be happy if I looked back and thought, I really wanted that, but didn't get it my all. I have seen people quit their dream and end up with nothing as well. Decide to focus on family, and then something happens. They are not current in that profession and have no current job history to boot, so they can not find work.

As far as the show, this is still a dream of Penny's, and if she is bringing it up in therapy, it still has to still have value to her. I'm not saying your dreams can't change, I'm saying be true to yourself, cause there are no guarantees in life. You can't guarantee she couldn't find work as an actress, as much as you can't guarantee she is gonna be better off forgetting about it! 

[Mislav]

14 minutes ago, jenafan said:

With all due respect, there are people who spend their lifetime chasing a dream and come out on the end with nothing.   Sometimes it is best to cut your losses and change your goals.    It doesn't mean you don't still dream, only that you faced reality that perhaps you were chasing the wind.    

It happens a lot when people choose family over career.   It doesn't mean that they don't miss what they were doing before, only that family has become more important.   Penny misses acting, but perhaps she sees that the path she has chosen is really in her best interest right now.   If she goes back to acting, perhaps the growth she has developed will help her be better than she was, and she will finally get her chance at a more mature role.

Unfortunately it's not all about what we want, or how good we think we are.   It's all about opportunity, what other people think, popularity, the people you know, and just the deck life gives you. 

I don't think that Penny should have, necessarily, become a famous actress. She could have made a carrier as a theater actress, for example. Or maybe try out some other movie/play related jobs, maybe writing.

[JE7]

The one truth in life is there are mo guarantee's.

You HAVE to play the odds, if someone's dream is to win the big lottery jack pot they can spend half their pay on tickets every week for their whole lives and never win and it will have cost them dearly

My son is a musician and a good one plays in a band about to release their third album he makes nothing but he gets he music fix. That's all he wanted for 8 years then he realized he was broke and living with his dad. He is now training to be a chef which he enjoys has a apt. And a fiance. If the band hits great if not he still has a happy life.

Penny can do community theatre while she makes the big bucks during the day. Life is not all or nothing, you have to compromise.

[EvilStewie]

1 minute ago, JE7 said:

The one truth in life is there are mo guarantee's.

You HAVE to play the odds, if someone's dream is to win the big lottery jack pot they can spend half their pay on tickets every week for their whole lives and never win and it will have cost them dearly

My son is a musician and a good one plays in a band about to release their third album he makes nothing but he gets he music fix. That's all he wanted for 8 years then he realized he was broke and living with his dad. He is now training to be a chef which he enjoys has a apt. And a fiance. If the band hits great if not he still has a happy life.

Penny can do community theatre while she makes the big bucks during the day. Life is not all or nothing, you have to compromise.

Is he still in the band? ... and thats my basic point

[Kasey]

3 hours ago, JE7 said:

 

My son is a musician and a good one plays in a band about to release their third album he makes nothing but he gets he music fix. That's all he wanted for 8 years then he realized he was broke and living with his dad. He is now training to be a chef which he enjoys has a apt. And a fiance. If the band hits great if not he still has a happy life.

Penny can do community theatre while she makes the big bucks during the day. Life is not all or nothing, you have to compromise.

This is exactly how I see Penny fulfilling her dream of acting.  One can still dream yet be a responsible adult like your son.  The problem was that in the episode, the writers didn't expound on what Penny really meant.  So we are left with the impression that Penny wants to go back to her early years and be young and free and have no responsibilities.  I don't think that was her point. 

To me, Penny was saying I'm overwhelmed, I don't like this being an adult, I want to go back to simpler times.  Heck, I've said that many times.  That doesn't mean that she or I are going to do it.  It's like blowing off steam.