djsurrey Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Remember sg-1 04x06 Window of Opportunity? I am thinking we are in that loop.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, djsurrey said: Remember sg-1 04x06 Window of Opportunity? I am thinking we are in that loop.... "If we don't find a way out of this soon, I'm gonna lose it. ... Lose it... It means go crazy, nuts, insane, bonzo, no longer in possession of ones faculties, three fries short of a Happy Meal, WACKO!" LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2L344 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 35 minutes ago, Lionne said: But this where I bang my head against the wall, 2L344, because Amy KNEW that she was too "emotionally exhausted" at that point in the relationship to know what her "true desires" were, and she wanted to take a break. She wanted time to think about it. She couldn't communicate about it, and she knew full well she was confused. She full on admitted all this, while gently telling Sheldon that she definitely still loved him, which was why it was hard, but she needed some time to sort herself out. How can you blame her for not being able to communicate better and know herself and her true desires when she fully admitted she didn't know those answers and wanted some time to find them? She did not act "on her best interests," she acted out of the fact that Sheldon disrespected her by failing to give her any of this space. He demanded his answer from her right then and there - are we broken up or not. And he adds in that zinger about her fertility. Respect it critical, and any guy who doesn't respect you needs to go. Sheldon was grossly disrespectful to Amy (and I was a little angry at the writers for making him so disrespectful, as it totally justified Amy dumping him without too much controversy) and she dumped him. As she should have. She didn't end the relationship on a whim, because it just suited her desires at the time. She ended the relationship because he hounded, insulted and disrespected her into doing so. Period. I'm sorry, but that's clearly how it played out on screen. We are meant to understand that Sheldon literally drove her to breaking up with him, and then he made it much worse with the play with Penny's bra, and then that FwF issue....comparing her genitalia to Czechoslovakia. It's uniquely Shamy that the biggest insult in this entire game was made by metaphor to a dissolved Slovian state, but Amy's reaction to that one was quite clear - she drove all the way over there just to scream at him to take it down, because she was so pissed off. And I think that's the area in which Amy was mostly existing in - absolute rage. She was confused about a lot of things, but boy, Sheldon really gave her an emotional state to concentrate on in the long run, yeah? Anger. She was so angry with him that for awhile I think that's all she could see. And I believe that this anger was doubled down because before Amy was drawing to the end of what she could take from the relationship, she had worn some seriously rose-tinted glasses about Sheldon and their relationship for quite awhile. She needed to let those fall off to see things clearly, and I think that's actually where she was when she initiated a pause so she could have some time to think. In any case, I think that the last two episodes are really opening up the wounds about the original break up. When Amy and Sheldon broke up, people took sides, and in particular, people wanted to understand more of Amy's side of the story. Anyway, for me, here is the problem: Even if you were on Amy's side of the break up in the beginning, the show focused entirely on Sheldon's pain and personal growth. Amy's side was barely shown, or only hinted at. Sheldon achieved all of these personal breakthroughs and eventually won her back and then sealed the deal with sex, and clearly he worked very hard to make her happy in that regard too. And it would be great if that was the end of it. There was a rift, they grew, they got back together, and now they are happy. But apparently the show isn't done - both the episode with Meemaw and the V-Day episode bring the break up back up, and show, once again, that Sheldon justifies the break up as necessary, and miraculously says "one needs to change to evolve," and seems to have accepted his role in the break up and have grown from it. Contrast that with Amy seeming really defensive about her decision, and not apologizing for her part in it at all, and somehow in all of this Amy has become the villain of the break up, but I swear to God I was there and that is NOT what I watched. But maybe it would be best? If the issue is ever going to be put to rest? Still, I don't buy it. I don't care if the show has shown so much pain and suffering from Sheldon's side, and how much he's grown. I think it's great, but I can still remember back to so many other things he's done in the past - like getting jealous and insulting her when her paper made the cover of Neuron, running away without saying goodbye after snapping at her and storming out, all that time that was gloating at the fact that sexually she was monogamous to him but he was under no obligation to sexually satisfy her needs - yeah, Sheldon's been a real selfish ass in this relationship at times, and I feel it's insulting to Amy to say....okay! Now you have to apologize too! Because you can say that Amy is responsible for 35% of the break up, but HOW exactly? Other than the fact she broke up with him, what behavior, what did she do, that she has to apologize for? i thought i already threw my opinion out there ad nauseam lol? first of all dont take me too literally, when i say 35% im comparing that to what she and sheldon negotiated when assigning responsibility for the Zazzie break up. i thought that was obvious in my post but if not my apologies. look, im in no position to argue it much more. im really good with us disagreeing on points and perspective. truly i think we agree on more than we disagree. im not saying amy had no right to have evaluated her five years with sheldon and come to the conclusion that a break up was needed/warranted/justified. i thought i made it clear in several posts now that sheldons behavior towards amy was mostly to blame, and yes over the years his behavior at times was unforgiveable. but you said yourself the break up was not entirely on sheldon. i agree! do i blame amy for being human and reacting emotionally? no! but are we gonna ignore that, despite all the evidence against sheldon not meeting amy's needs as a bf, amy returns to him unconditionally? that implies that he wasnt so bad after all, that amy was willing to accept him warts and all! its all fine to chalk it up to "well she really loves him and misses him", but returning to the status quo would make the break up pointless then. she had no idea sheldon would turn her away, and no way of knowing that he would reverse himself and that they would now find themselves in coitus bliss. is it so wrong to expect either one of these two to feel remorse for their behavior, regret for hurting one another, and wishing things had been done differently? in amy's case, remorse for dragging out a break up six months before deciding it wasnt necessary on her part, that status quo was fine as it turns out? hey sheldon, i now know the break up was hurtful to you too, and gee i wish i had done things differently and could have at some point talked it out before it got out of hand? if you give amy a pass on any or all if it because she was exhausted and emotional, thats fine and i respect that. i just dont subscribe to that notion though. i think they both have reason to be sorry, to have regret about things that happened, and owe each other some assurances that they will do better. if folks disagree, i can live with that. i have no idea why the writers chose this particular plot to go with, and i understand everyone will perceive the characters in their own way based on their own life experiences and sensibilities. its okay if mine doesnt jive with yours or anyone else's, and if it turns out im an island on this topic then ill have to find me a volleyball and name him "Wilson" and get comfortable on the beach... i find it utterly fascinating that Meemaw and FWF episodes are touching on this idea of blame and acceptance of it. maybe the writers have one more thing yet to do before closing that ugly chapter of the break up. maybe im not alone on that island... 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djsurrey Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 22 minutes ago, April said: Yeah, all I see in that is the show is trying to back up Amy here. Meemaw is behaving horribly and brings up Sheldon's heartbreak as a means to justify her attack on Amy. It's a challenge for Amy and Sheldon both but they stand their ground and let her know in no uncertain terms that they'll figure this "little work in progress" out together, for better or for worse. Sheldon's hurt is brought up again on V-day and again the show refuses to let this play out in a way that's casting Amy as the bad guy here - for goodness sake, Sheldon is almost thanking her for breaking up with him cause the experience has made everything better in the end! If the show is supposedly trying to chide Amy for her actions as I've seen some people claim they're going about it a really weird way, don't you think? Have not seen it yet of course but I expect Meemaw's attack on Amy is supposed to be unexpected and therefore funny. Doubt it has any more real meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Von Brainstorm Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 43 minutes ago, 2L344 said: im suggesting we see less of the eye rolling Amy, the one some of us associate with the impending break up. kinda done with it. if that is unreasonable then so be it, call me unreasonable, i can accept that I'm not saying you are unreasonable at all, if that is something that you do not enjoy in the show so be it. BUT it is human and realistic to be annoyed by your other half sometimes *shrugs* They are meant to be somewhat similar to real people, Amy gets annoyed at Sheldon, Sheldon rolls his eyes at Amy too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE7 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 16 minutes ago, djsurrey said: Have not seen it yet of course but I expect Meemaw's attack on Amy is supposed to be unexpected and therefore funny. Doubt it has any more real meaning. That does makes sense, so many things the last few seasons can be explained as " supposed to be funny" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, 2L344 said: but are we gonna ignore that, despite all the evidence against sheldon not meeting amy's needs as a bf, amy returns to him unconditionally? that implies that he wasnt so bad after all, that amy was willing to accept him warts and all! its all fine to chalk it up to "well she really loves him and misses him", but returning to the status quo would make the break up pointless then. she had no idea sheldon would turn her away, and no way of knowing that he would reverse himself and that they would now find themselves in coitus bliss. No, it doesn't make the breakup pointless because in those 6 months Amy made new experiences and went through a whole range of different emotions as reaction to their separation that she never felt before. The whole thing started out as her needing to re-evaluate their situation and in the end this is what she did. Or to put it differently: the research question was "Is this all worth the trouble?" so she went off to collect more data and after reviewing all the facts she came to the conclusion that yes, it is worth it! This may not be the most exciting motivation, hence why people are sceptical about it and assume that there is some hidden agenda she kept secret or whatever. But to me Amy was pretty much upfront about her intentions if you'd just believe her. 7 minutes ago, 2L344 said: i think they both have reason to be sorry, to have regret about things that happened, and owe each other some assurances that they will do better. if folks disagree, i can live with that. See, that is actually something I would love to see, not playing the blame game but assessing what they learned from the breakup and applying that to their relationship to make sure this won't happen again. And tbh I already see a bit of that in their interactions. But an on-screen scene between the two reassuring each other would be lovely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Itslike de ja vu in this thread every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2L344 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 39 minutes ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said: I'm not saying you are unreasonable at all, if that is something that you do not enjoy in the show so be it. BUT it is human and realistic to be annoyed by your other half sometimes *shrugs* They are meant to be somewhat similar to real people, Amy gets annoyed at Sheldon, Sheldon rolls his eyes at Amy too! well you said it seemed lately that i was suggesting Amy keep her mouth shut and just appreciate Sheldon, and that she had no reason to complaim. that would make me unreasonable i think if true...the only thing that comes close to that is my agreeing with Cam that i would also like to see the Amy that was happy to have sheldon back. yes i woild like to see less of eye rolling amy, but not because i expect her to be perfect and not because i dont think couples in real life argue (been married 25 years now, yeah i get it). i would like us to move away from the break up drama and move forward with silly grins on our faces instead of pre- break up frowns and what not. id like the writers to get on with it. its a wish, a hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Von Brainstorm Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 14 minutes ago, 2L344 said: well you said it seemed lately that i was suggesting Amy keep her mouth shut and just appreciate Sheldon, and that she had no reason to complaim. that would make me unreasonable i think if true...the only thing that comes close to that is my agreeing with Cam that i would also like to see the Amy that was happy to have sheldon back. yes i woild like to see less of eye rolling amy, but not because i expect her to be perfect and not because i dont think couples in real life argue (been married 25 years now, yeah i get it). ... Which Is why I asked for clarification. Quote i would like us to move away from the break up drama and move forward with silly grins on our faces instead of pre- break up frowns and what not. id like the writers to get on with it. its a wish, a hope... To this I'd say buckle up, The ride is far from over and this new added drama and arc based story telling seems to be working for the writers so I don't think it's over yet! Maybe not for Shamy but I'm predicting more drama before the season is out *sighs* I like that they have had an arc this season, this show has been very inconsistent over the years (which I guess is par for the course with sitcoms as they are usually just eye candy) but I'm one of the people who doesn't want too much drama in my funny shows, I have plenty of drama's I watch for that! If this season ends the way I think they are hinting it's going then I'm gonna have to block this forum and lay low until S10 PS - congrats on 25 years! *insert mandatory you'd get less time for murder joke here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionne Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, April said: Yeah, all I see in that is the show is trying to back up Amy here. Meemaw is behaving horribly and brings up Sheldon's heartbreak as a means to justify her attack on Amy. It's a challenge for Amy and Sheldon both but they stand their ground and let her know in no uncertain terms that they'll figure this "little work in progress" out together, for better or for worse. Sheldon's hurt is brought up again on V-day and again the show refuses to let this play out in a way that's casting Amy as the bad guy here - for goodness sake, Sheldon is almost thanking her for breaking up with him cause the experience has made everything better in the end! If the show is supposedly trying to chide Amy for her actions as I've seen some people claim they're going about it a really weird way, don't you think? Mmmmmm....yes and no. Overall, Amy defends herself and Sheldon stands by her, but if the show thought she was totally in the clear they wouldn't subject her to two attacks in a row - Meemaw, and then Raj & Barry. Besides, neither episode necessarily ends up being about Amy's contribution, but about Sheldon. The episodes haven't aired yet, so I should be cautious about making declarative statements, but it seems like both of these episodes end up skewed to show Sheldon in a favorable light as Mr. Best Boyfriend Ever - first he defends Amy and takes her side even against Meemaw, then he defends the break up itself to Raj in a way that, as wowbagger points out, is borderline insulting to the audience as it seems to sum up precisely how we're supposed to see the break up. Like when Stuart goes on about Penny and Leonard being the best couple he knows because they make one complete person - that was totally random, and came off as a heavy-handed, meta way for the writers to tell us how to see Lenny. This set up seems like a heavy-handed, meta way for the writers to tell us - through Sheldon's own mouth! - how we're supposed to see the break up. What I'm trying to get at is that they take aim at Amy for the break up just so Sheldon can save her and stand by her, or so he can inform the audience – oh I mean Raj – why the break up was great because he needed to e,brace change in order to evolve. So while Sheldon might come to the rescue in the end, they still had to one up Amy to attack and make her either angry and defensive, or squirming with embarrassment, and then have Sheldon step in to defend her. But people don't have to buy Sheldon's defense at face value - they might see that Amy goes under the microscope, and they don't like her words, actions or answers (and we're not supposed to, we're supposed to like and swoon over Sheldon's) or feel that she comes clean or gives any answers to explain or give insight into her previous actions and deeds about the break up. She kinda looks worse, or at least SHE and her choices are put in the spotlight, but HE is the one who answers, who gives a stance or justification that we like. So....Sheldon looks good. Sheldon has the answers. Sheldon says the right things. Amy looks....questioned. Questionable. On the defense. Uncomfortable. Unapologetic, even when Sheldon says openly that he was heartbroken. Amy is the one challenged, but Sheldon has the answers. It makes him look great. Her? Not so much. And I think that the writer's intended "moral of the story" was to highlight and even explain why the break up plot lime was awesome and how much Sheldon grew and changed from it, and that they are ignorant to how Amy ends up looking here, because they are more focused on Sheldon than her. Always were, always will be, but there are narrative consequences that I don't think they get. Or care about, it's a sitcom after all, although the Sheldon-centric emphasis of the show might be what leads to the death spiral which implodes the whole thing. I absolutely love the first half of season 9 - I do think that the Shamy break up was handled well for the most part, love the "Shamy Trinity" of the last 3 episodes, and some of the Footprints of the Moon or fencing with Kripke or the helium guy subplots were delightful. However, now that it's over and we're into the second half of the season, and they are trying to focus some on the other characters and their plot lines, I'm sort of being slapped across the face with how lost everything is that doesn't bare the name Sheldon Cooper on it. I don't understand WTF is going on with Lenny right now, we finally see Emily only for Raj to dump her, we're retreating ground of the Shamy breakup just so Sheldon can overshadow it a little bit more, and....Howardette is having a baby. Great. Oh, and Stuart apparently breaks into Howardette's home just to stand there watching them sleep. That's not beyond absurd and disturbing or anything. What is going on here, show? Maybe we all need a little "Sheldoff" time, for our own good. @2L344 - Oh, I think you probably have some company on your island, don't worry. Edited January 26, 2016 by Lionne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Von Brainstorm Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, djsurrey said: Remember sg-1 04x06 Window of Opportunity? I am thinking we are in that loop.... Best episode of Stargate ever! It disappoints me that a show about geeks has only mentioned SG1 once in it's 9 year run *pouts* Edited January 26, 2016 by Einstein Von Brainstorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, Lionne said: Mmmmmm....yes and no. Overall, Amy defends herself and Sheldon stands by her, but if the show thought she was totally in the clear they wouldn't subject her to two attacks in a row - Meemaw, and then Raj & Barry. Besides, neither episode necessarily ends up being about Amy's contribution, but about Sheldon. The episodes haven't aired yet, so I should be cautious about making declarative statements, but it seems like both of these episodes end up skewed to show Sheldon in a favorable light as Mr. Best Boyfriend Ever - first he defends Amy and takes her side even against Meemaw, then he defends the break up itself to Raj in a way that, as wowbagger points out, is borderline insulting to the audience as it seems to sum up precisely how we're supposed to see the break up. Like when Stuart goes on about Penny and Leonard being the best couple he knows because they make one complete person - that was totally random, and came off as a heavy-handed, meta way for the writers to tell us how to see Lenny. This set up seems like a heavy-handed, meta way for the writers to tell us - through Sheldon's own mouth! - how we're supposed to see the break up. What I'm trying to get at is that they take aim at Amy for the break up just so Sheldon can save her and stand by her, or so he can inform the audience, oh and Raj, why the break up was great because he needed to e,brace change in order to evolve. So while Sheldon might come to the rescue in the end, they still had to one up Amy to attack and make her either angry and defensive, or squirming with embarrassment, and then have Sheldon step in to defend her. But people don't have to buy Sheldon's defense at face value - they might see that Amy goes under the microscope, and they don't like her words, actions or answers (and we're not supposed to, we're supposed to like and swoon over Sheldon's) or feel that she comes clean or gives any answers to explain or give insight into her previous actions and deeds about the break up. She kinda looks worse, or at least SHE and her choices are put in the spotlight, but HE is the one who answers, who gives a stance or justification that we like. So....Sheldon looks good. Sheldon has the answers. Sheldon says the right things. Amy looks....questioned. Questionable. On the defense. Uncomfortable. Unapologetic, even when Sheldon says openly that he was heartbroken. Amy is the one challenged, but Sheldon has the answers. It makes him look great. Her? Not so much. Eeeeehhh, Idk, I just don't get that vibe. Or let me a bit more precise: A lot of the argument revolves around the idea that the writers are intentionally showing Amy as the bad girl and blaming it all on her. And I just don't think this is what they're trying to do. Yes, they pointing a finger towards Amy's actions in that they have characters state that Sheldon was hurt and Amy was dating other guys. And yes, Sheldon is the one standing by her, defending her actions and make clear that he has no hard feelings about that. But let's face it: As annoying and repetitive as it may be it's about his feelings and he should make the call here. And I'm actually glad that the writers take their time to have him point that out cause I've seen so so many tiresome arguments during the breakup that Sheldon will never be able to trust Amy again or some such nonsense that I think it's actually necessary for part of the audience to hear that. It's not the most elegant way do to this, I give you that, but then again this show isn't exactly known for its elegance in writing, is it? Does that make Sheldon come across as the hero in shining armour? Probably. But that doesn't automatically make Amy look bad to me personally. It's a pity that it always seems to turn into this weird zero sum game even though both Amy and Sheldon are essentially doing the same thing. That isn't to say that there aren't scenarios that I would love to see to complete this little breakup fallout thing (or whatever this is supposed to be). Maybe the topic of Sheldon's comments sometimes being more or less unintentionally hurtful to Amy will come up in some way that flips the situation and puts Sheldon's actions under the microscope while Amy is delivering her own blunt announcement about how she feels. The thing is though I somehow have the uneasy feeling that no matter what Amy does or doesn't do people will find a reason to put her under more scrutiny than Sheldon and unless she's behaving like in some ridiculously specific fanfic scenario her actions and words will be dissected and the writers will be accused of doing her wrong. It's a no win situation at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Regrets Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I agree with what a lot of people are saying here. One thing the Shamy break up has highlighted for me is that because they've turned Sheldon into this larger-than-life character, Amy's POV is secondary. And I think that's unfortunate because 1) they're in a relationship so both POVs matter equally and 2) Amy is an incredibly interesting character in her own right, not just when she's with Sheldon. Heck. A lot of my favorite scenes from the show involve Amy semi-flirting with Penny because Mayim is just hysterical in those scenes. Or Amy singing with Howard. Loved that. I just think Amy's POV deserves just as much attention as Sheldon's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, No Regrets said: I agree with what a lot of people are saying here. One thing the Shamy break up has highlighted for me is that because they've turned Sheldon into this larger-than-life character, Amy's POV is secondary. And I think that's unfortunate because 1) they're in a relationship so both POVs matter equally and 2) Amy is an incredibly interesting character in her own right, not just when she's with Sheldon. Heck. A lot of my favorite scenes from the show involve Amy semi-flirting with Penny because Mayim is just hysterical in those scenes. Or Amy singing with Howard. Loved that. I just think Amy's POV deserves just as much attention as Sheldon's. As much as I'm bitching about "of course we got Amy's pov, are you ppl blind omggg!!11" I'd absolutely love more of Amy, no objections here. I love her interactions with pretty much everyone. I'd watch the hell out of "the Amy show"! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Von Brainstorm Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 18 minutes ago, April said: As much as I'm bitching about "of course we got Amy's pov, are you ppl blind omggg!!11" I'd absolutely love more of Amy, no objections here. I love her interactions with pretty much everyone. I'd watch the hell out of "the Amy show"! lol More Amy! With or without Sheldon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowbagger Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 43 minutes ago, April said: As much as I'm bitching about "of course we got Amy's pov, are you ppl blind omggg!!11" I'd absolutely love more of Amy, no objections here. I love her interactions with pretty much everyone. I'd watch the hell out of "the Amy show"! lol PAmyDette spinoff with occasional appearances from the boys, anyone? (and don't get me wrong, I like the guys. I do. But-for a show whose gender politics I bitch out so often-I do so love the friendship between the girls). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Can't wait till the next taping. Really can't wait until the next taping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie3457 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I wonder where they are going with the Raj/Emily situation. I doubt that they would make Laura a regular for a portion of the season and have her in a few episodes. She stood out on a major way in her last appearance.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mislav Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 9 hours ago, Carlos said: Yes he is. Once again, Carlos, you couldn't have been more ironic if you tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenafan Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 5 hours ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said: We are, cus it is meant to be a comedy this isn't exactly Shakespeare here, it never ever stands up to our high standards! That is the horrible burden we must bear as obsessed fans Here ya go: Absolutely love this reply. Thank you. I try to be positive, but learning that others have the same concerns I do have really got me caught up in it. It saddens me that it makes some uncomfortable but some of us just have to get it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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910 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) 12 hours ago, 3ku11 said: Sheldon and Penny want nothing from each other. Whole point of their relationship. Penny only Cares about Leonards opinion. Same with Sheldon with Amy. So Pennyconfides in Sheldon as a sounding board. I also think theirs a more relationship compassion their recently. Which is exactly how affairs start. No demands and no expectations and two unlikely friends that have been spent years together helping one another. Two wronged parties consoling one another only to find out the gradual growth of their compassion and respect is stronger than the supposed love for their significant other. Yet, wait, Penny is not intellectually suitable for Sheldon, so break up Raj and Emily and now perhaps even Emily is a suitable replacement for Sheldon. I am by no means advocating that, but the drama manufactured seems to only be for shock value and to spike ratings, rather than realistic genuine emotion. However, maybe that is the point is our emotions make us do stupid things. Perhaps Season one Sheldon Cooper had it right all along. Relationships are not worth the drama and turmoil. Edited January 26, 2016 by Touche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirs1 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 46 minutes ago, hokie3457 said: I wonder where they are going with the Raj/Emily situation. I doubt that they would make Laura a regular for a portion of the season and have her in a few episodes. She stood out on a major way in her last appearance.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I start to think she will come back again this season, maybe if or when Raj reaches a sort of awareness of the way he treated her; for me he was not in love with her, but remained with her for the wrong reason. And the way he left her and then tried to undo everything just because Claire wasn't available isn't clearly the best behavior ever. So I can figure out an episode in which he kind of explains her his behavior and\or apologize. From that point, everything can happen. They can try again or Raj can accept to be alone for a while. Frankly, if the former happens, they would be the forth couple out of four in the show to break up and make up later on, so to me it would start to get old. I rather prefer the other option. But, TBH, I never liked them together, so maybe I'm biased here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 16 minutes ago, Touche said: Which is exactly how affairs start. No demands and no expectations and two unlikely friends that have been spent years together helping one another. Two wronged parties consoling one another only to find out the gradual growth of their compassion and respect is stronger than the supposed love for their significant other. Yet, wait, Penny is not intellectually suitable for Sheldon, so break up Raj and Emily and now perhaps even Emily is a suitable replacement for Sheldon. I am by no means advocating that, but the drama manufactured seems to only be for shock value and to spike ratings, rather than realistic genuine emotion. However, maybe that is the point is our emotions make us do stupid things. Perhaps Season one Sheldon Cooper had it right all along. Relationships are not worth the drama and turmoil and we should just find happiness within ourselves. It seems to me Emily would be a good match for Sheldon. She's a mix of Amy and Penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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