wowbagger Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, ATOB said: I'm not sure that Penny does want to be an actress. I get the impression that what she actually truly wants is to be a star. I didn't see that need in her performances, but her need for the personal recognition and status she thinks fame would afford is glaringly obvious. For example, when she was in Streetcar, I saw Penny playing Blanche DuBois (and this is not a smirch on Kaley's skill because I absolutely didn't see Kaley playing Penny playing Blanche, I'm pretty sure I saw the performance that Kaley was directed to give us). I saw 'Penny' delivering lines with the correct intonation and emotion , but Blanche wasn't there. Blanche is a woman in hiding, and the most important aspect is that she's also hiding from herself and, in the shocking denouement of her violent rape and the revelation that she was a sexual abuser of the young boys under her tutelage, her delusion finally takes her, becomes a form of self-preservation and comfort as she's taken away to the psychiatric ward. Did anyone catch even an inkling of this from the performance we were shown? I just don't see that total absorption in Penny. She's always there. Always aware and present. To echo Beverley, her locus is external and she is deeply insecure. She has her looks, she knows that, but looks fade and she's now waking up to that reality. Leonard doesn't think he deserves to get the 'hot girl' and the 'hot girl' wonders what will happen when her looks are gone and all that's left is what's inside, which in her mind don't add up to very much at all. I don't think the show has strongly made the case that Penny is strikingly talented (note: this is Penny I'm talking about rather than Cuoco, whom I actually think is terrific), and I too found it interesting that when she was talking to the therapist, she said 'I was pretty good... girl next door, but hot, you know, doable'- as in, her own assessment of her ability was linked to her looks (I think that this was roughly what she said- happy to be corrected!) I agree with you about Penny's insecurities which are rather heartbreaking. I do think it is interesting to examine Penny's ideas of herself and what it means to put away childish things- for her as well as for her husband. I hope we get to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 51 minutes ago, nickelette424 said: Because it's not very strong at all. I often get asked where I'm from because to Southerners I don't have a southern accent. But when I visit the Midwest, I get teased about my Southern accent. Sounds like me. When I first moved to Florida, I got teased about my midwest accent. Four years later, I'm back in Wisconsin on my honeymoon, and I was told I had a southern accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE7 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Going OT for a sec, when I saw this I couldn't help but think of Howard from the justice league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOB Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Stephen Hawking said: How about Kirsty Alley, for Penny's mother? There is a definite likeness. Wrong face shape. Look at the eyes and face shape of Jennifer Coolidge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 1 minute ago, ATOB said: Wrong face shape. Look at the eyes and face shape of Jennifer Coolidge. You don't want them looking identical. Children have the characteristics of both parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE7 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Speaking of the justice league, TPTB missed a great Halloween superheroe costume opportunity with Emily and Penny both in the mix Missing this Puts a dent in thier nerd cred Edited February 1, 2016 by JE7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathy2611 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 6 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said: You don't want them looking identical. Children have the characteristics of both parents. Yeah, I'm going to say not necessarily on this one too. I know several people who are the spitting image of one of their parents and looks absolutely nothing like the other. I even know a guy I went to school with who's son looks EXACTLY like he did at that age. He could literally be his clone! I was actually shocked it was so identical. But yeah, I also agree with ATOB on this one. I think Jennifer Coolidge would be a better match for her mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 1 hour ago, ATOB said: And I really don't get the Lisa Kudrow thing. Fabulous as Lisa Kudrow is, she really don't look much like Penny. Now, Jennifer Coolidge, take Penny, add 25 years and about 70lbs.....et voila! I dont see the similarities. And why does Pennys mother need to look.exactly like Penny? In that Friends Bbt pic. Kaley Nd Lisa looked very similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOB Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 1 hour ago, wowbagger said: I don't think the show has strongly made the case that Penny is strikingly talented (note: this is Penny I'm talking about rather than Cuoco, whom I actually think is terrific), and I too found it interesting that when she was talking to the therapist, she said 'I was pretty good... girl next door, but hot, you know, doable'- as in, her own assessment of her ability was linked to her looks (I think that this was roughly what she said- happy to be corrected!) I agree with you about Penny's insecurities which are rather heartbreaking. I do think it is interesting to examine Penny's ideas of herself and what it means to put away childish things- for her as well as for her husband. I hope we get to see it. I think Penny knows her strengths and is under no allusions. Now, had they cast Penny as Stella in Streetcar, it would've been a whole different story. Stella is such a sexually charged role and the only smoke and mirrors within the character are at the climax with her own self-delusion as Blanche is carted off. Now Stella knows or strongly suspects that Stanley raped Blanche, but her own self-preservation kicks in, so she stands by her man, and does what she thinks is best for herself and her unborn child. I think Penny could nail this no worries. If the right part comes along, Penny should embrace it. I always did want Penny to have an epiphany about the hollowness of being a star and realise that famous or not, you're still you, wherever you go, you're still there, only difference is that you have a media magnifying glass held up to your imperfections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhalen565 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) 34 minutes ago, JE7 said: Speaking of the justice league, TPTB missed a great Halloween superheroe costume opportunity with Emily and Penny both in the mix Missing this Puts a dent in thier nerd cred Leonard was Green Lantern, Arisia Rrab is more appropriate, (kudos to Fanfic writer) Edited February 1, 2016 by Zhalen565 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOB Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 32 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said: You don't want them looking identical. Children have the characteristics of both parents. True. But I don't think Wyatt has a round face either. That being said, my two middle children are the dead spit of my husband's sister, both long limbed, ethereal and rather androgynous (they would make splendid elves). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE7 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, Zhalen565 said: Leonard was Green Lantern, Arisia Rrab is more appropriate, (kudos to Fanfic writer) Nah Batgirl and supergirl are a fan fav team and you have a redhead in Emily, the nerdgasams would be epic lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esteben Feynman Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I read somewhere that Amy never had any friends until she met Sheldon and the gang, which meant that she was coming into the adolescence period, at the time, that most people experience when they are teens. Amy never had that experience which means that she came into that phase in her late 20(?)/early 30s. That is the reason the writers wrote her part that way for the first few seasons she was on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 And, of course, Amy as Wonder Woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOB Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 29 minutes ago, 3ku11 said: I dont see the similarities. And why does Pennys mother need to look.exactly like Penny? In that Friends Bbt pic. Kaley Nd Lisa looked very similar. Do you not? Ignore the hair. Look at face shape, eye shape, cheeks and cheek bones, and their mouths. Plus both are very sexy ladies. Lisa has a different kind of sensuality. Also a very distinctive nose and a wide thin lipped mouth with a long oval face. I mentioned a while back about Marilyn Monroe being ruled out for the role of Holly Golightly in Breakfast at Tiffany's. Now Audrey Hepburn has her very own exquisite beauty but it is very, very far removed from the raw sexuality of Marilyn. Same thing here. I can't believe 'Lisa' is Penny's Mum, and I can't believe 'Jennifer' isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Stephen Hawking said: And, of course, Amy as Wonder Woman. Yeah Penny already covered that haha 5 minutes ago, ATOB said: Do you not? Ignore the hair. Look at face shape, eye shape, cheeks and cheek bones, and their mouths. Plus both are very sexy ladies. Lisa has a different kind of sensuality. Also a very distinctive nose and a wide thin lipped mouth with a long oval face. I mentioned a while back about Marilyn Monroe being ruled out for the role of Holly Golightly in Breakfast at Tiffany's. Now Audrey Hepburn has her very own exquisite beauty but it is very, very far removed from the raw sexuality of Marilyn. Same thing here. I can't believe 'Lisa' is Penny's Mum, and I can't believe 'Jennifer' isn't. Fine agree to disagree then. As it is Kaley wants her. I just dont see any similarities nor would I personally pick Jennifer for Pennys mother. But thats just me. Gail OBrady better choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE7 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said: And, of course, Amy as Wonder Woman. It could have been a epic Halloween episode add Bernie as Black Canary and make it a surprise for the guys, imagine their faces when the girls walk into 4A ready to go. With guy level cosplay detail, not the cheap store bought ones like the Wonder Woman costume they had Penny in before Edited February 1, 2016 by JE7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Did yo know that, at a family party, Mayim dressed as Wonder Woman. I'd love to see a picture of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE7 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) No I didn't know that Here's a plot idea a couple of episodes later Howard on his internet surfing discovers that Stuart secretly runs a rule34 website and models his superheroines on the girls. Hilarity and mayhem ensues as the girls hunt Stuart who quickly tries to enter the witness protection program Edited February 1, 2016 by JE7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 What's a rule34 website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE7 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Stephen Hawking said: What's a rule34 website? Uhhhh its a, that is it has..... Just Google it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esteben Feynman Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said: What's a rule34 website? If you don't want to ruin your childhood, don't google search it. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nibbler747 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Rule 34 - if it exists, there's a porn of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE7 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 1 minute ago, ICanRelateToShamy said: If you don't want to ruin your childhood, don't google search it. lol To paraphrase Raj that's like ruining ice cream by adding chocolate sprinkles NIBBLER!!!! I AM SHOCKED!! And I now love you even more lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, ICanRelateToShamy said: If you don't want to ruin your childhood, don't google search it. lol My childhood is but a distant memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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