[Spoilers] Discussion Topic: Season 9

[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

6 hours ago, shamour said:

- Howard's app (although I haven't understood their financial problems with Bernie making "a buttload of money" as she said so herself after being headhunted by that pharmaceutical company, and they're not even paying rent anymore)

I've been led to believe that in America a company doesn't legally have to pay you for maternity leave (someone correct me if I'm wrong here) so they will be taking a financial hit because even if Bernadette decides to go back to work as soon as possible, depending on how smooth the birth is she will still need to take at least a little time off.

After Bernie has recovered and gone back to work they will then have to pay for full time childcare, all of the expenses related to having a child and again being American's have to start saving for the child's college fund I guess? 

We were paying £1300 to have one child in full time nursery and one in an after school club a month, not sure how much it is in the states but little people aint cheap at all! My advice to people without kids is always "don't do it till you are hella rich!"  

So they have all of that on top of student loans, re-modeling the house and their normal expenses 

[djsurrey]

5 minutes ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said:

I've been led to believe that in America a company doesn't legally have to pay you for maternity leave (someone correct me if I'm wrong here) so they will be taking a financial hit because even if Bernadette decides to go back to work as soon as possible, depending on how smooth the birth is she will still need to take at least a little time off.

After Bernie has recovered and gone back to work they will then have to pay for full time childcare, all of the expenses related to having a child and again being American's have to start saving for the child's college fund I guess? 

We were paying £1300 to have one child in full time nursery and one in an after school club a month, not sure how much it is in the states but little people aint cheap at all! My advice to people without kids is always "don't do it till you are hella rich!"  

So they have all of that on top of student loans, re-modeling the house and their normal expenses 

Some people avoid the child care expenses by giving up an income and having either mom or dad stay home with their on kids. H/B have been making fist-loads of money and don't have a mortgage. 

[joyceraye]

5 minutes ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said:

I've been led to believe that in America a company doesn't legally have to pay you for maternity leave (someone correct me if I'm wrong here) so they will be taking a financial hit because even if Bernadette decides to go back to work as soon as possible, depending on how smooth the birth is she will still need to take at least a little time off.

After Bernie has recovered and gone back to work they will then have to pay for full time childcare, all of the expenses related to having a child and again being American's have to start saving for the child's college fund I guess? 

We were paying £1300 to have one child in full time nursery and one in an after school club a month, not sure how much it is in the states but little people aint cheap at all! My advice to people without kids is always "don't do it till you are hella rich!"  

So they have all of that on top of student loans, re-modeling the house and their normal expenses 

If Howard stays at home as planned they won't have childcare expenses but they'll have the loss of his income. Bernadette already infantilises him over the money so he'll feel a lot better if he's contributing to the family coffers rather than relying solely on handouts from his missis..

 

[kimbee73]

8 minutes ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said:

I've been led to believe that in America a company doesn't legally have to pay you for maternity leave (someone correct me if I'm wrong here) so they will be taking a financial hit because even if Bernadette decides to go back to work as soon as possible, depending on how smooth the birth is she will still need to take at least a little time off.

After Bernie has recovered and gone back to work they will then have to pay for full time childcare, all of the expenses related to having a child and again being American's have to start saving for the child's college fund I guess? 

We were paying £1300 to have one child in full time nursery and one in an after school club a month, not sure how much it is in the states but little people aint cheap at all! My advice to people without kids is always "don't do it till you are hella rich!"  

So they have all of that on top of student loans, re-modeling the house and their normal expenses 

It depends on the company's maternity policy. Some companies will give paid but I don't think many do. I didn't get paid maternity. I had to use all my sick and personal days to get any kind of pay.

Little people are expensive and you are right if Bernadette goes back to work right away(6 weeks) it will be very expensive for daycare. A buttload of money can go only so far. When I had two kids in daycare we paid almost a full mortgage payment in expenses.

They probably don't have a mortgage payment now but they also probably did use the savings they had in order to do renovations. It will be interesting to see what they do with this storyline.

[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

9 minutes ago, djsurrey said:

Some people avoid the child care expenses by giving up an income and having either mom or dad stay home with their on kids. H/B have been making fist-loads of money and don't have a mortgage. 

Yup which is why I thought Howard might stay home (as he earns less) but then in tonights episode he freaks out about money so maybe they aren't making as much as we think? 

[mirs1]

20 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

If Howard stays at home as planned they won't have childcare expenses but they'll have the loss of his income. Bernadette already infantilises him over the money so he'll feel a lot better if he's contributing to the family coffers rather than relying solely on handouts from his missis..

 

If I remember correctly Molaro's interview about Howardette's pregnancy, he said that the baby will alter the dynamics in the show on a small degree and the guys will continue to work together and have Comic books store nights and stuff like that together. So, according to his words, albeit Howardette's agreement about who would have taken care of their future kids, both of them will continue to work. It's a way to keep the show close to its premises and we all know that the writers have hard time in getting away from them. That being said, for me it would be extremely funny to see Howard as a stay-at-home dad, but I agree that "money" would be a very sensitive issue about them in such a situation. Again, it could turn out as extremely fun, but not sure that the writers can handle it in really funny way. I read somewhere that there will be very soon a new sit-com with Matt Le Blanc all about a stay-at-home dad, I'm very curious about it!

Edited February 18, 2016 by mirs1

[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

33 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

If I remember correctly Molaro's interview about Howardette's pregnancy, he said that the baby will alter the dynamics in the show on a small degree and the guys will continue to work together and have Comic books store nights and stuff like that together. So, according to his words, albeit Howardette's agreement about who would have taken care of their future kids, both of them will continue to work. It's a way to keep the show close to its premises and we all know that the writers have hard time in getting away from them. That being said, for me it would be extremely funny to see Howard as a stay-at-home dad, but I agree that "money" would be a very sensitive issue about them in such a situation. Again, it could turn out as extremely fun, but not sure that the writers can handle it in really funny way. I read somewhere that there will be very soon a new sit-com with Matt Le Blanc all about a stay-at-home dad, I'm very curious about it!

Matt LeBlanc just took on the presentership of Top Gear over here so I dunno when he'll have time for that but sounds interesting! 

[mirs1]

5 minutes ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said:

Matt LeBlanc just took on the presentership of Top Gear over here so I dunno when he'll have time for that but sounds interesting! 

http://deadline.com/2016/02/matt-leblanc-star-cbs-comedy-pilot-james-burrows-jeff-jackie-filgo-1201698717/

Just found the article; it's still a pilot, but CBS seems really interested in the project. The title is so funny "I'm not your friend", LOL!!!

[Judith]

18 hours ago, Tensor said:

And Leonard has an IQ of 173, the error bars for IQ tests at those scores are big enough that it is entirely possible that Leonard's IQ is greater than Sheldon's.  Hawking is considered one of the greatest minds of his generation, what's wrong with comparing him and with someone who is being called "one of the greatest minds of the century"?.  

If you want to compare them at the same points in their career, at this point (I'm assuming Sheldon is 35, Hawking had made all of his major discoveries.  Any of his proposals after this point in his career, were shown to be wrong (Black hole information paradox, The arrow of time from the no boundary hypothesis, the Hartle-Hawking state's closed universe among others).   This is very common with Theoretical Physicists.  Most make no discoveries after the age of 30.  Experimental Physicist can last to 40, Biological and non-physical scientist can put it off to their late 40s.  

If all were talking about is TPTB's world, then there is no reason to consider or discuss any of this.  What the show has shown is that Sheldon's solo research has produced nothing, in fact, he made a rather large error, that was shown to be wrong.  He doesn't get along with many of his colleagues, he doesn't like raising money for his department or the university, he either has no students show up for his class, or the student mock him publicly, not someone likely to get tenure.     

 

Sure, if you want to think that there was an error in their tests, go ahead...It's entirely possible, but still, according to the show, S's IQ is 187 and  L's is 173. There must be a reason they did it that way. Also, there's nothing wrong with comparing Sheldon to Hawking, I just don't see the point of this.

You need to take into account that these characters don't operate on their own, TPTB pull the strings, and we've seen up until now that they have a very specific M.O. and from that we can predict some things...And yeah, S has made mistakes, like all of them, but he's also still there, like all of them...I agree that realistically he wouldn't be likely to get tenure but that still doesn't mean that could change with him showing change, or with the University continuing to be lenient with him.

14 hours ago, Carlos said:

I don't know exactly how long it takes for people to get tenure after they apply for it. As far as I know TBBT has shown that Leonard, Sheldon Raj and Kripke did. Presumably there are more candidates. I'd think that Sheldon would be the least likely to get it because he changed his field of study after that... Who knows...

Well, for starters because it has been shown in the show that he's not very good at teaching. You have also mentioned the possibility of all three getting tenure. Correct me if I'm wrong, but  wasn't there just one tenure vacancy available?

Yeah, I think there was one spot available in the tenure episode...

[Nogravitasatall]

8 hours ago, Mislav said:

The point was that they had tampered with the results, therefore any finding couldn't have been credible. I may not know for sure how much it effected the data (that is related to those findings, that were tampered with, mind you) but neither do you. One way or another, they compromised the experiment.

If they kept the data then any effect would have been in the data. It would have been there to see after they got home and it would still be visible in the data today. I read it that they put noise in the signal after it had already been recorded "in the data". Sheldon made a major process error by releasing his results before verification. The other guys were naughty, but Sheldon got his science wrong, in that case. I'm thinking cold fusion was the parallel.

They were dishonest with him, true. But much comedy in sitcoms comes from consequences of dishonesty.  Usually  people let it go by the next episode.  It was a gag.  

Like I've accepted the gag that Sheldon has sex, annually. That's a hard one for me. But Amy had the best bed hair I've seen so far on TV this year, and no visible brassiere straps. She looked well coitused. Take that, American television! People don't wear bras when having sex. So stop pretending in pretty much every other broadcast show that they do. Go TBBT. One small step for...

[hokie3457]

4 minutes ago, Nogravitasatall said:

If they kept the data then any effect would have been in the data. It would have been there to see after they got home and it would still be visible in the data today. I read it that they put noise in the signal after it had already been recorded "in the data". Sheldon made a major process error by releasing his results before verification. The other guys were naughty, but Sheldon got his science wrong, in that case. I'm thinking cold fusion was the parallel.

They were dishonest with him, true. But much comedy in sitcoms comes from consequences of dishonesty.  Usually  people let it go by the next episode.  It was a gag.  

Like I've accepted the gag that Sheldon has sex, annually. That's a hard one for me. But Amy had the best bed hair I've seen so far on TV this year, and no visible brassiere straps. She looked well coitused. Take that, American television! People don't wear bras when having sex. So stop pretending in pretty much every other broadcast show that they do. Go TBBT. One small step for...

Love your verb conjugation "well coitused".  While doing so were they "coitusing".  What about "achieving coitusation"?

[nickelette424]

10 minutes ago, Nogravitasatall said:

 

Like I've accepted the gag that Sheldon has sex, annually. That's a hard one for me. But Amy had the best bed hair I've seen so far on TV this year, and no visible brassiere straps. She looked well coitused. Take that, American television! People don't wear bras when having sex. So stop pretending in pretty much every other broadcast show that they do. Go TBBT. One small step for...

If it makes you feel better, the writers said pretty much right away that they likely wouldn't wait until her next birthday.   There also seems to be a few pieces of dialog in up coming episodes that suggests they haven't waited.   I'm waiting until I see the episodes before I decide for sure. 

[stardustmelody]

Photos for Episode 9.17 (200th) The Celebration Experimentation are up!

[mirs1]

23 minutes ago, stardustmelody said:

Photos for Episode 9.17 (200th) The Celebration Experimentation are up!

They made a very good job in decorating the apartment for the party, it is amazing! Everybody look very elegant (of course the kind of "elegance" that fits with each character) and, for the first time Sheldon wears a tie that matches with his suit, LOL! 

Edited February 18, 2016 by mirs1

[nickelette424]

Enjoying how happy Amy looks in all these pics.   And I know many will disagree,  but I love the Sheldon and Penny hug.   Very sweet.

[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

Aww look how happy Sheldon is!

Imagine being 35(ish) and never having had a birthday that you enjoyed  

[3ku11]

13 minutes ago, nickelette424 said:

Enjoying how happy Amy looks in all these pics.   And I know many will disagree,  but I love the Sheldon and Penny hug.   Very sweet.

I dont. As a LEnny shippeer. Ive always liked their friendship. Penny is like the sister he never had. Exactly like siblings. Over thr years bicker, fight etc. End of day real affection their. So I think as fans its time to accept and move on. Theirs more important things going on in the show right now.

[Tonstar17]

Enjoying how happy Amy looks in all these pics.   And I know many will disagree,  but I love the Sheldon and Penny hug.   Very sweet. [emoji4]

I dont. As a LEnny shippeer. Ive always liked their friendship. Penny is like the sister he never had. Exactly like siblings. Over thr years bicker, fight etc. End of day real affection their. So I think as fans its time to accept and move on. Theirs more important things going on in the show right now.

Is one of them lenny living in 4A kitchen. ☺

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[Einstein Von Brainstorm]

For the people who were upset that Penny doesn't wear her locket anymore... this is it right?

Also how does anyone have a bath in that tub?! It's tiny! 

[JE7]

That's the point it encourage you to shower instead to save water, California is in a major draught lol

[3ku11]

11 minutes ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said:

For the people who were upset that Penny doesn't wear her locket anymore... this is it right?

Also how does anyone have a bath in that tub?! It's tiny! 

Is that it? Is this what ppl were freaking about? Lol. Sheldon looks irritated. She's wearing the locket. Which means Leonard has Pennys heart :). This looks like typical im your sis I love ya man. As said Penny is shown to be the parallel of Missy. Its loooks kinda sweet lol. Boy.

[Nogravitasatall]

1 hour ago, nickelette424 said:

If it makes you feel better, the writers said pretty much right away that they likely wouldn't wait until her next birthday.   There also seems to be a few pieces of dialog in up coming episodes that suggests they haven't waited.   I'm waiting until I see the episodes before I decide for sure. 

if ever Amy looks as comprehensively "invigorated" again I'll be as entertained. My spouse thought the hair was good too. We ALL now have new unachievable goals for our partners. Hehehe.

I still hold that changes or conversions of sexual preference are unlikely and cant be commanded or coaxed. To think otherwise leads to unhappiness, and in extremes being thrown off a roof, so I'll take ATOB's apparently informed explanation ofcwhat occurred. So if they bump uglies again it could be for a different love other than eros. And that's probs OK, really.

BTW itd be nice to get some affirmation again of Leonard's genius. That was something Penny didn't tell the Doc.:)

[Tonstar17]

It will be nice if she wears the locket all the time like bernadette does the star Howard bought for her.

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[Tensor]

11 hours ago, A.D.A. said:

 Sheldon's behaviour was also wrong, but his hubris is small potatoes compared to what the three did on purpose (and I would consider it a form of sabotage).

You mean keeping the actual unaltered data separate from the data they gave Sheldon?

[Nogravitasatall]

2 hours ago, nickelette424 said:

If it makes you feel better, the writers said pretty much right away that they likely wouldn't wait until her next birthday.   There also seems to be a few pieces of dialog in up coming episodes that suggests they haven't waited.   I'm waiting until I see the episodes before I decide for sure. 

well, there is still a mechanism for Sheldon's devotion to Amy's wellbeing.. One of my concerns is that this change in the character's fundamental nature become a device to support popular belief in conversions of sexual preferences. If there is a mechanism (theory) that explains he hasn't changed his sexual preference OR magic, I'll take the mechanism.

 

vvvv I was on a train

Edited February 18, 2016 by Nogravitasatall
I had a longer, better post but I went into a tunnel and so it came out smaller... because i cant remember it all and it may have been more forthright