[Spoilers] Discussion Topic: Season 9

[nickelette424]

1 minute ago, Nogravitasatall said:

well, there is still a mechanism for that. One of my concerns is that this become a device to support popular belief in conversions of sexual preferences. If there is a mechanism OR magic, I'll take the mechanism.

The thing you have to remember is that the writers never assigned him a specific sexuality.   There's nothing to convert.   What you see is who Sheldon is and who they want him to be.  

[Chrismo]

4 minutes ago, nickelette424 said:

The thing you have to remember is that the writers never assigned him a specific sexuality.   There's nothing to convert.   What you see is who Sheldon is and who they want him to be.  

or what would get higher ratings.

[3ku11]

He was on the spectrum of Assexuality I think. But I agree they diddnt assign him a sexual orientation. Or convert him. Amy came along they decided.

[Tensor]

10 hours ago, Mislav said:

Not sure can it just be classified as tampering, but even if it is that and nothing else, that doesn't make it much better, because they did mess with the experiment when they shouldn't have, which provided the false findings. They kept the original data, but since the whole experiment was tampered with, that doesn't mean much. For all we know, there could have been some crucial things detected later on, that got compromised by those false signals. Even if Sheldon had waited for the right time to publish the result, the end result would have still been three months of an expensive research gone to the wind, so to say. They couldn't even tell for sure that they didn't find anything, due to the tampering. I do think that Sheldon was very difficult to deal with, but that doesn't absolve the guys of the blame, neither does it make Sheldon completely innocent. Every coin has two sides.

Every character on the show has been wrong about something multiple times. There was no apparent evidence of data being tampered.

For other "points", see my previous reply.

 

There were two sets of data, the original unaltered data, and the data they gave to Sheldon.  If there was something in the original data, it was not lost, as the original data was available and unaltered.  

This would be similar to the recent announcement of Gravitational Waves.   The people in charge of the GW experiment, knowingly injected false signals into the data.  The people reading the data would have to go through all the steps needed to check the data, then recheck it, then verify that throughout, their work and checking of their work was still showing the detection signal of GW.  They would then begin preparations for writing the paper and making the announcement.  AT THAT POINT,  the people in charge would let those reading the data know it was a false signal.  But, the original data without the false signal was still available.  

The problem here, was that Sheldon bypassed the recheck and verification of the data, and went straight to the announcement.  If he had followed the procedures, at some point before the announcement, he would have been given the proper data, and he would have seen that nothing was found.  

[Chrismo]

31 minutes ago, Tonstar17 said:

It will be nice if she wears the locket all the time like bernadette does the star Howard bought for her.

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The locket isn't sentimental like the snowflake he gave her. Howard's star went into space and back. IMO apples and oranges.

[Tonstar17]

It will be nice if she wears the locket all the time like bernadette does the star Howard bought for her.

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The locket isn't sentimental like the snowflake he gave her. Howard's star went into space and back. IMO apples and oranges.

^^^^;

True but when was the last time the snowflake made an appearance. S5x13 and in Leonard's dream. not so sentimental.

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[3ku11]

You can't wear a snowflake lol

[luminous]

1 hour ago, 3ku11 said:

Is that it? Is this what ppl were freaking about?

This and the infamous hug, when I remember correctly.

Shenny???

Edited February 18, 2016 by luminous

[vonmar]

 

[stardustmelody]

5 minutes ago, luminous said:

This and the infamous hug, when I remember correctly.

Shenny???

Well if I recall, it was supposed to look awkward...that doesn't look like an awkward hug.  Actually this hug looks like a lovely hug and he does not look the least bit irritated like he supposedly claims to be.  He looks content and happy.  So I guess I think the hug is not what was described, let's put it that way.

Edited February 18, 2016 by stardustmelody

[Nogravitasatall]

33 minutes ago, nickelette424 said:

The thing you have to remember is that the writers never assigned him a specific sexuality.   There's nothing to convert.   What you see is who Sheldon is and who they want him to be.  

Maybe so, and sure  - but then, perhaps, with that view, any analysis of what the character is goes out the window - next week he really could be an alien, if the writers made him so. If you want to play at trying to make sense of what he is doing I feel you have to allow the character some permanence and agency.

Otherwise we are all just mooning over daydreams. (pants on mooning - as in mooncalf, not the other, schoolies or spring break type, mooning).

[Tonstar17]

Thats why i said made an appearance. It's probably at the back of her cupboard with the chewtoy it wasn't in her box of sentimentals

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[Tensor]

Well the girls found it on her nightstand, we don't get many looks at her nightstand.

[3ku11]

6 minutes ago, stardustmelody said:

Well if I recall, it was supposed to look awkward...that doesn't look like an awkward hug.  Actually this hug looks like a lovely hug and he does not look the least bit irritated like he supposedly claims to be.  He looks content and happy.  So I guess I think the hug is not what was described, let's put it that way.

Awww that looks like a sweet sisterly hug. Gotta say I see more Jim their then Sheldon LOL. Per usual translates very differently. For future reference. Wait till you react.

[Tonstar17]

In Leonard's day dream

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[Tonstar17]

That's does not look like a sisterly hug to me. So wrong in many ways.

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Edit. They are not related nor are brothers and sisters, no matter how much tptb try to make it believable. For the last 3 seasons they are making them more sexually to believe that bullshit

[JE7]

1 hour ago, Einstein Von Brainstorm said:

For the people who were upset that Penny doesn't wear her locket anymore... this is it right?

Also how does anyone have a bath in that tub?! It's tiny! 

That's one pic for the Kareast shippers 

[April]

30 minutes ago, stardustmelody said:

Well if I recall, it was supposed to look awkward...that doesn't look like an awkward hug.  Actually this hug looks like a lovely hug and he does not look the least bit irritated like he supposedly claims to be.  He looks content and happy.  So I guess I think the hug is not what was described, let's put it that way.

Well, it's a promo picture - it might look more awkward in the actual scene. lol

29 minutes ago, Nogravitasatall said:

Maybe so, and sure  - but then, perhaps, with that view, any analysis of what the character is goes out the window - next week he really could be an alien, if the writers made him so. If you want to play at trying to make sense of what he is doing I feel you have to allow the character some permanence and agency.

Otherwise we are all just mooning over daydreams. (pants on mooning - as in mooncalf, not the other, schoolies or spring break type, mooning).

Sure, but -generally speaking- there's also the danger of subscribing to a particular theory and clinging to it despite a growing mountain of evidence to the contrary. I've seen this in so many fandoms when people are so sure that their personal vision of what a character is like is the absolute truth even though the writers are working into a completely different direction for ages. There's a lot of confirmation bias going on with that. Characters grow and change over time, just as everybody in the real world does. In addition there's the fact that we as the audience only see a small part of their life - so there's a lot of stuff that we simply don't know for whatever reason. In the end you need to be a bit flexible with interpretations cause otherwise you'll end up grasping at straws while cobbling together a theory that just doesn't really work with what's shown on the show.

Edited February 18, 2016 by April

[JE7]

32 minutes ago, vonmar said:

 

Lol is Kaley asleep?

[nibbler747]

I hug my male friends like that all the time.  I don't see a problem.  It looks warm and affectionate.  

[3ku11]

19 minutes ago, Tonstar17 said:

 

That's does not look like a sisterly hug to me. So wrong in many ways.

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Edit. They are not related nor are brothers and sisters, no matter how much tptb try to make it believable. For the last 3 seasons they are making them more sexually to believe that bullshit

Honestly a hug is sexual? Lol. Wow. Theirs nothing wrong with this 2 sec hug. Penny's known ThE guy nine years. Looks like a normal hug. Penny is affectionate. Was it wrong when Sheldon hugged LeonRd in the same way. Its Penny shes very maternal. It looks warm and affectionate. Honestly.

Edited February 18, 2016 by 3ku11

[April]

On a completely shallow note: I love Penny's dress! <3

[Tonstar17]

 

That's does not look like a sisterly hug to me. So wrong in many ways.

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Edit. They are not related nor are brothers and sisters, no matter how much tptb try to make it believable. For the last 3 seasons they are making them more sexually to believe that bullshit

Honestly a hug is sexual? Lol. Wow. Theirs nothing wrong with this 2 sec hug. Penny's known ThE guy nine years. Looks like a normal hug. Penny is affectionate. Was it wrong when Sheldon hugged LeonRd in the same way. Its Penny shes very maternal. It looks warm and affectionate. Honestly.

Yeah cause that is the same hug. And if you read my post I said for the last 3 seasons their interaction has gotten more sexual like sheldon asking penny to come out of the shower to put on the t-shirt and don't tell me he didn't know what he was doing.

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[Tensor]

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[JE7]

10 minutes ago, Tonstar17 said:

Honestly a hug is sexual? Lol. Wow. Theirs nothing wrong with this 2 sec hug. Penny's known ThE guy nine years. Looks like a normal hug. Penny is affectionate. Was it wrong when Sheldon hugged LeonRd in the same way. Its Penny shes very maternal. It looks warm and affectionate. Honestly.

 

Yeah cause that is the same hug. And if you read my post I said for the last 3 seasons their interaction has gotten more sexual like sheldon asking penny to come out of the shower to put on the t-shirt and don't tell me he didn't know what he was doing.

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As far as the in show universe he didn't remember Sheldin and Penny are not real people and have no motivations beyond what the writers give them