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Honestly a hug is sexual? Lol. Wow. Theirs nothing wrong with this 2 sec hug. Penny's known ThE guy nine years. Looks like a normal hug. Penny is affectionate. Was it wrong when Sheldon hugged LeonRd in the same way. Its Penny shes very maternal. It looks warm and affectionate. Honestly.

 

Yeah cause that is the same hug. And if you read my post I said for the last 3 seasons their interaction has gotten more sexual like sheldon asking penny to come out of the shower to put on the t-shirt and don't tell me he didn't know what he was doing.

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As far as the in show universe he didn't remember Sheldin and Penny are not real people and have no motivations beyond what the writers give them

True. But it's canon. And the writers write what they want to happen.

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That's does not look like a sisterly hug to me. So wrong in many ways.

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Edit. They are not related nor are brothers and sisters, no matter how much tptb try to make it believable. For the last 3 seasons they are making them more sexually to believe that bullshit

I'm not going to get into whether or not they are making Sheldon/Penny more sexual or not. I am under the impression they have no intentions of doing that, but this being said this hug doesn't look like what was described however, if I recall it was said that she hugged him with everyone around. Where is everyone? This is a picture that was taken after the scene was taped, maybe?, probably? If I recall, there were people at other tapings that say they take some pics after the scenes are shot. This could be one of them. I don't know, but I'm not worried.

I agree Sheldon does not look annoyed or irritated in this picture. But I trust those at the taping that say he was. But again, I will watch and make an more informed decision once I see it.

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6 minutes ago, Tonstar17 said:

True. But it's canon. And the writers write what they want to happen.

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What's canon is that Leonard and Penny are married and very much in love and Sheldon sees her as a sister figure.

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16 minutes ago, Tonstar17 said:

As far as the in show universe he didn't remember Sheldin and Penny are not real people and have no motivations beyond what the writers give them

 

True. But it's canon. And the writers write what they want to happen.

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Ad THEY have written a asexual maternal type relationship for nine season's. Despite a more relationship compassion type relationship. A hug warm affectionate hug imo. Means nothing. If Penny hugged anyone else like that. No biggie.  

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2 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

This maybe not the scene they use. Their were Other takes. Is it just me but does Jim.seem out of character. Feels more jim then Sheldon. Yes Jim is tall lol. ND if this wss real life yes. But in cannon its such a asexual relationship lol. So saying one hug. When next ep Penny well be going LeonArd! Lol. As sexual is just stupid. Leonard and Amy maybe in ThAt pic. Just cutt out.

And people are burning their pants for something that might not even air or be quick. lol

1 minute ago, gsxdoug said:

What's canon is that Leonard and Penny are married and very much in love and Sheldon sees her as a sister figure.

Exactly, they see each other as Brothers, Leonard and Penny are married and happy, they both love Sheldon and vice-versa, Shamy is more intense and affective with each other than ever, their relationship is stronger, a second round of Southern borders invasion might or might not have ocured (we'll find out tonight) and Raj will probably end the show alone lol

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True. But it's canon. And the writers write what they want to happen.

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What's canon is that Leonard and Penny are married and very much in love and Sheldon sees her as a sister figure.

No doubt penny loves Leonard. But show it instead of wasting it on Sheldon who has nothing good to say about her. Like I said tptb loves that hook up and I don't like it.

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As a heavy die hard shamy shipper, I have absolutely no problem with the Sheldon and Penny hug. I admire how her their friendship has come over the last 9 years. Its a type of brotherly sister friendship thats hard to come by these days. I love the growth in both characters and how much more open Sheldon is becoming. 

It's a very cute picture. and it made me smile :). I see it as no threat towards Shamy. Im seriously so happy with how far the show has come and the all round character development. Proud fan right here :)

Edit: Goddman Macbook! 3 times it auto-corrects. 

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As far as the in show universe he didn't remember Sheldin and Penny are not real people and have no motivations beyond what the writers give them

 

True. But it's canon. And the writers write what they want to happen.

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Ad THEY have written a asexual maternal type relationship for nine season's. Despite a more relationship compassion type relationship. A hug warm affectionate hug imo. Means nothing. If Penny hugged anyone else like that. No biggie.  

Not freak out mate. He doesn't deserve it the way he treats penny.

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21 minutes ago, kimbee73 said:

I'm not going to get into whether or not they are making Sheldon/Penny more sexual or not. I am under the impression they have no intentions of doing that, but this being said this hug doesn't look like what was described however, if I recall it was said that she hugged him with everyone around. Where is everyone? This is a picture that was taken after the scene was taped, maybe?, probably? If I recall, there were people at other tapings that say they take some pics after the scenes are shot. This could be one of them. I don't know, but I'm not worried.

I agree Sheldon does not look annoyed or irritated in this picture. But I trust those at the taping that say he was. But again, I will watch and make an more informed decision once I see it.

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From what we've gotten from the taping reports they do re-stage certain things for still photography.  According to the taping reports, this hug occurs toward the very end of the taping, I imagine they might have all been feeling a little emotional, maybe why it seems more Jim than Sheldon.

It will be interesting as to how it plays out on screen next week.

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Awwww! Look at Johnny studying so hard and preparing for his big supportive scene behind the kitchen island! What a professional! 

Kitchen area is the place to be. Such a waste of talent but apparently he will get some mention about his work soon. Just like no one will be hanging out in the living room anymore. The kitchen will be the sick place to hang. I wonder where Sheldon's spot would be in the kitchen.

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I'm sorry maybe my memory is failing me but when was the last time Sheldon said anything nice about Penny??

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Maybe my memory is failing, but I thought we were discussing the possibility of romantic shenny, not whether or not Sheldon deserved a sisterly hug. Moving goalposts noted.

Okay I was responding to posters who said how great the s/p relationship has grown in 9 years. But yeah.... if you think that.

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Yeah I see that hug pictur as more kaley and jim. The expression on his face is more jim then Sheldon. So thats why I see no issue. The sp ship.sailed in 2008. As THEY reststage scenes for photography ill say that's it. The actual hug well prob translate pretty differently. That seems more Kaley and Jim to me.

30 minutes ago, Tonstar17 said:

Someone in the games thread asked me if penny was my favorite character and for the first time in 9 yrs I did a penny. I didn't want to answer the question. I think my answer was probably not anymore.

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What has Penny done so wrong that pisses you off lol. Poor Penny

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Yeah I see that hug pictur as more kaley and jim. The expression on his face is more jim then Sheldon. So thats why I see no issue. The sp ship.sailed in 2008. As THEY reststage scenes for photography ill say that's it. The actual hug well prob translate pretty differently. That seems more Kaley and Jim to me.

Someone in the games thread asked me if penny was my favorite character and for the first time in 9 yrs I did a penny. I didn't want to answer the question. I think my answer was probably not anymore.

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What has Penny done so wrong that pisses you off lol. Poor Penny

I dont know. I can't put my finger on it. but she just come across as annoying a lot recently, especially towards Leonard.

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16 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

What has Penny done so wrong that pisses you off lol. Poor Penny

Clearly she is on the verge of forsaking her marriage vows to get it on with Sheldon. Now where did I leave that sarcasm sign.....

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4 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

Not sure about that. Ive seen a loving wife. Snarky but thats Penny. I.think.your being unfair. I have not seen her annoying towards Leonard at all. Quite the opposite. She's actually been annoyed with Sheldon.

Not if Sheldon was the last man on earth lol. The whole sp thing always confused me. Its a a asexual relationship. And a nice maternal relationship. Anyway.

Sheldon and Penny have a brother and sister relationship they love each other but they also annoy the hell out of each other just like brother and sister

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2 hours ago, April said:

Sure, but -generally speaking- there's also the danger of subscribing to a particular theory and clinging to it despite a growing mountain of evidence to the contrary. I've seen this in so many fandoms when people are so sure that their personal vision of what a character is like is the absolute truth even though the writers are working into a completely different direction for ages. There's a lot of confirmation bias going on with that. Characters grow and change over time, just as everybody in the real world does. In addition there's the fact that we as the audience only see a small part of their life - so there's a lot of stuff that we simply don't know for whatever reason. In the end you need to be a bit flexible with interpretations cause otherwise you'll end up grasping at straws while cobbling together a theory that just doesn't really work with what's shown on the show.

Yes,  but that he has changed and how - other than magically - is interesting. He is very specific. Given that people die for their orientation, so it is understood it is not whimsical, his change requires some explanation. "Amy wore him down" is not really applicable as a mechanism. If I can reconcile the evidence with an actual process then isn't my experience of the show more real, for me?

If "Amy boiled  over the cockles of his heart because of the power of love" works for most, then fine. Call me an outlier. However, we certainly know he doesn't stand to attention for anyone but Amy. And that's pretty special, in many senses. I can accept that specificity if there is a mechanism - because it has been demonstrated in various instances that he hasnt responded to opportunity elsewhere. But if someone was to say he was magically transformed into a pants man I'd be very sceptical. So Penny is safe. In that sense. Maybe not in every sense. Certainly not in the "escaping from annoyance" sense. :)

 

 

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Yeah Penny loves Sheldon, that is why she drew all over his face with a sharpie tonight like he was drunk nerd to take advantage of while smiling to her husband.

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2 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

Ad THEY have written a asexual maternal type relationship for nine season's. Despite a more relationship compassion type relationship. A hug warm affectionate hug imo. Means nothing. If Penny hugged anyone else like that. No biggie.  

^ exactly! And Sheldon hugged Meemaw even more affectionately so.... lol 

 

1 hour ago, Tonstar17 said:

I'm sorry maybe my memory is failing me but when was the last time Sheldon said anything nice about Penny??

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the last I can think of is "it's safe to take food from her... you probably paid for it anyway" :icon_cheesygrin:

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4 minutes ago, SRAM said:

Yeah Penny loves Sheldon, that is why she drew all over his face with a sharpie tonight like he was drunk nerd to take advantage of while smiling to her husband.

I don't know why but that scene botherd me.  I'm going to need to watch it again. 

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Ad THEY have written a asexual maternal type relationship for nine season's. Despite a more relationship compassion type relationship. A hug warm affectionate hug imo. Means nothing. If Penny hugged anyone else like that. No biggie.  

^ exactly! And Sheldon hugged Meemaw even more affectionately so.... lol 

 

I'm sorry maybe my memory is failing me but when was the last time Sheldon said anything nice about Penny??

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the last I can think of is "it's safe to take food from her... you probably paid for it anyway" :icon_cheesygrin:

Not complimentary. ☺

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