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The Solder Bead Diversion - featuring another Showard (or how was the Sheldon/Howard/Leonard trio called?) cooperation with the great idea of making jewelry out of solder beads for their loved ones (in continuation of the industrial diamond Leonard once bought) to make some more money to divert Sheldon from panicking that a little Rajesh Fowler-Cooper is on its way, this time with Howard donating a quarter of his share for future social education:-)

Somehow the screenshot of the skript cover was not posted in my post, but I meant my previous scribblings to be about 9x19...

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1 hour ago, shamour said:

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now it worked...

Thanks for the close-up!

Assuming some of the letter parts are not just distorted pixel-mush it looks like it's starting with "Sol", followed by either "a", "d" or "u" judging by the little edge, and some other letter with a round corner after that (a, d, e, o, t). After playing around with some word finders some of the more likely candidates are "Solder [sth.]", "Solace [sth.]"/"Solacement" and "Solution [sth.]" - with another short word in place of [sth.] cause otherwise that would be too short.

"Diversion" seems a likely candidate for the last word since it definitely ends with "rsion", with what could be an "e" before that, and what looks like the tip of an "l/b/h/t" or the dot of an "i" a little further before that you're running out of other plausible word options quickly.

With that then we got...

- "The Solder [sth.] Diversion" -- tinkering with some sort of electro tech thingy?!?

- "The Solacement Diversion" -- someone needs consoling and someone else or the whole gang cheer(s) them up with a fun activity??

- "The Solution [sth.] Diversion" -- uhm...!??

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2 hours ago, April said:

Thanks for the close-up!

Assuming some of the letter parts are not just distorted pixel-mush it looks like it's starting with "Sol", followed by either "a", "d" or "u" judging by the little edge, and some other letter with a round corner after that (a, d, e, o, t). After playing around with some word finders some of the more likely candidates are "Solder [sth.]", "Solace [sth.]"/"Solacement" and "Solution [sth.]" - with another short word in place of [sth.] cause otherwise that would be too short.

"Diversion" seems a likely candidate for the last word since it definitely ends with "rsion", with what could be an "e" before that, and what looks like the tip of an "l/b/h/t" or the dot of an "i" a little further before that you're running out of other plausible word options quickly.

With that then we got...

- "The Solder [sth.] Diversion" -- tinkering with some sort of electro tech thingy?!?

- "The Solacement Diversion" -- someone needs consoling and someone else or the whole gang cheer(s) them up with a fun activity??

- "The Solution [sth.] Diversion" -- uhm...!??

Solacement  may be a good bet.  It could refer to Tuesday taping in regards to the guys project or to Raj/Emily

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The Solitary Conversion? Raj realises what a cringing waste of protoplasm he has become and decides that he will work on his own personality for a while before subjecting himself (and the double-x-chromosomed) to his infantile romanticism and his allergy to reality? Kunal Nayyar finally gets a proper plot that doesn't make me want to throttle his character, while ever and anon acknowledging how much I like the actor?

sigh. A girl can dream, yes?

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4 minutes ago, wowbagger said:

The Solitary Conversion? Raj realises what a cringing waste of protoplasm he has become and decides that he will work on his own personality for a while before subjecting himself (and the double-x-chromosomed) to his infantile romanticism and his allergy to reality? Kunal Nayyar finally gets a proper plot that doesn't make me want to throttle his character, while ever and anon acknowledging how much I like the actor?

sigh. A girl can dream, yes?

Nope. They're gonna drive Raj into the ground until even Kunal's cutie pie face can't even save him for me and then they will 'redeem' him with the love of a good woman (of course!) but by then I won't care :icon_rolleyes:

Or Plot twist Cinnamon is the love that saves him! :wub:

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Well Leonard and Howard are married so it would have been an entirely different issue with them and Sheldon was only ever attracted to Amy so that plotline wouldn't work for anybody else.

Plus the other guys aren't self centered douches like Raj so he gets all the douchey plots.

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14 minutes ago, JE7 said:

Well Leonard and Howard are married so it would have been an entirely different issue with them and Sheldon was only ever attracted to Amy so that plotline wouldn't work for anybody else.

Plus the other guys aren't self centered douches like Raj so he gets all the douchey plots.

leonard cheated while dating priya

leonard cheated while dating penny  and kept it a secret for 2 years....

and raj is the douche???

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4 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

Lol wow you hate LeonArd. We al know you have an anti biast tiwards Leonard. But come on. Trust you to twist thing's. Your forgetting when Penny told hrt Father Leonard's reallly great and is really happy. Just because she diddnr react to a complete stranger about why she married Leonard. Suddenly that's why Leonard's a douche. Really?' Do you even watch this show? Leonard's the complete opposite of a douche. Penny was put on the spot and was unprepared. Honesty all you do is fly in Every few months to put the boot in to Leonard. Im.starting to wonder are you projecting or something.

lol... I have no idea how this is a reply to my post... where I gave the reason to why I think leonard is a douche....

cheating on priya

cheating on penny

 

and as a reply to your post.... she was initially put on the spot about the question "why she married leonard"... i agree... but there was more to the scene... she became quite comfortable....but still could not muster a single nice thing about leonard......

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42 minutes ago, vasu said:

leonard cheated while dating priya

leonard cheated while dating penny  and kept it a secret for 2 years....

and raj is the douche???

Is there really such a thing as cheating while people are only dating ? If there is, at what stage in the dating process is it expected they each only date that one person ? If they're neither married nor engaged ( nor have a relationship agreement :) )  they're not committed to each other yet. 

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8 minutes ago, vasu said:

lol... I have no idea how this is a reply to my post... where I gave the reason to why I think leonard is a douche....

cheating on priya

cheating on penny

 

and as a reply to your post.... she was initially put on the spot about the question "why she married leonard"... i agree... but there was more to the scene... she became quite comfortable....but still could not muster a single nice thing about leonard......

I don't agree he cheated on Penny, to cheat there has to be intent, which could be planning to cheat or getting into a compromising situation and just going with it or accepting it.  Leonard's situation was the second scenario, he got in a compromising situation and instead of accepting it he stopped it, therefore he didn't cheat, he just got himself in a bad situation.  

With Priya there was definite intent and he did cheat, but the fans and Penny were all good with it, so no foul.

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3 minutes ago, SRAM said:

I don't agree he cheated on Penny, to cheat there has to be intent, which could be planning to cheat or getting into a compromising situation and just going with it or accepting it.  Leonard's situation was the second scenario, he got in a compromising situation and instead of accepting it he stopped it, therefore he didn't cheat, he just got himself in a bad situation.  

With Priya there was definite intent and he did cheat, but the fans and Penny were all good with it, so no foul.

I said in my previous posts that him kissing other girl was ok(cause he was drunk).... but he kept it a secret for 2 years from penny..... that is cheating.....

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22 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Is there really such a thing as cheating while people are only dating ? If there is, at what stage in the dating process is it expected they each only date that one person ? If they're neither married nor engaged ( nor have a relationship agreement :) )  they're not committed to each other yet. 

I'm pretty sure the general consensus seems to be that once you're in a serious relationship (so after the "trial" period of six or seven dates, although it is a very fleeting border - I've had times where I would have been insulted to find out I'm not the only one after two dates, and times when after weeks it wouldn't have bothered me), you are basically committed. I don't see what a ring on anyone's finger changes about that.

I also think Raj is a douche because he's just generally disrespectful towards women ("fatties and uggos" line, the way he talked about the threesome he and Howard had, how little consideration he showed for Emily when he met that other girl), but the recent episodes really haven't painted him in a good light. When he was with Lucy, it at least showed that he could have empathy, even if he pushed too hard there sometimes. He just plain doesn't seem to care about Emily other than in the context that without her, he's alone. And that's not really a good enough reason to keep up a relationship.

Leonard, well... yeah, he's also a douche. Kissing that woman on the boat is one thing, we know Leonard sometimes has a hard time saying no to women - which is a problem -, but keeping it secret for two years? That's just not okay. The sad thing about that is that it's quite hard to blame the character because it's so blatantly obvious it was written in later on (I remember an episode in the interim period of boat and confession where he said he didn't lie to Penny and Amy and Bernadette told him they knew that and if by that point something had been planned in the cheating direction, I don't think he could have said it so matter-of-factly, or if he could have, it makes him look even worse). Sorry, Leonard, your characterisation fell prey to the season-end plot twist.

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Just now, A.D.A. said:

I'm pretty sure the general consensus seems to be that once you're in a serious relationship (so after the "trial" period of six or seven dates, although it is a very fleeting border - I've had times where I would have been insulted to find out I'm not the only one after two dates, and times when after weeks it wouldn't have bothered me), you are basically committed. I don't see what a ring on anyone's finger changes about that.

I also think Raj is a douche because he's just generally disrespectful towards women ("fatties and uggos" line, the way he talked about the threesome he and Howard had, how little consideration he showed for Emily when he met that other girl), but the recent episodes really haven't painted him in a good light. When he was with Lucy, it at least showed that he could have empathy, even if he pushed too hard there sometimes. He just plain doesn't seem to care about Emily other than in the context that without her, he's alone. And that's not really a good enough reason to keep up a relationship.

Leonard, well... yeah, he's also a douche. Kissing that woman on the boat is one thing, we know Leonard sometimes has a hard time saying no to women - which is a problem -, but keeping it secret for two years? That's just not okay. The sad thing about that is that it's quite hard to blame the character because it's so blatantly obvious it was written in later on (I remember an episode in the interim period of boat and confession where he said he didn't lie to Penny and Amy and Bernadette told him they knew that and if by that point something had been planned in the cheating direction, I don't think he could have said it so matter-of-factly, or if he could have, it makes him look even worse). Sorry, Leonard, your characterisation fell prey to the season-end plot twist.

Leonard was a douche in instance. But he ain't a douche in overall characterisation. Tptb I Agree threw Leonard's characterisation under a bus for a plot twist and manufacture angst. But I dont agree Leonard's a douche or a cheater. So many other examples of his qualities. You could argue Leonard diddnt telll Penny as it diddnt exist up until now.

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3 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

Leonard was a douche in instance. But he ain't a douche in overall characterisation. Tptb I Agree threw Leonard's characterisation under a bus for a plot twist and manufacture angst. But I dont agree Leonard's a douche or a cheater. So many other examples of his qualities. You could argue Leonard diddnt telll Penny as it diddnt exist up until now.

Well, if I look at it from a purely "in universe" perspective, it is a fact that the story now includes that he has lied to to Penny for two years. That's kind of the problem; he did a bad thing in his relationship with Priya, but confessed it quickly, so that would for me be an instance of being a douche. Two years is a little long for an instance. But, as you said, I also find it difficult to accept because it was so clumsily written. I do still generally like the Leonard character, although this plot point has put a huge damper on it for me because of my personal views on cheating (yes, even "light" cheating).

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